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(Daily Mail)   Forget the rude and intrusive TSA agents, forget the cramped seating, forget the pathetic pretzels and soda in-flight 'meal'. Now the pilots are intentionally crashing the planes   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 49
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2013-12-23 10:25:00 AM
All 27 passengers and six crew members were on board when the plane crashed in the Bwabwata National Park in Namibia.

I wonder how many flights they have where only some of the passengers are on board.
 
2013-12-23 11:06:33 AM
SO HELP ME, IF YOU GUYS DON'T PIPE DOWN BACK THERE, I'M GOING TO FLY THIS THING INTO THE SIDE OF THE NEXT MOUNTAIN I SEE!!
 
2013-12-23 11:07:52 AM
 
2013-12-23 11:07:59 AM
I think it's time to have a serious discussion about raising the minimum pilot wage.
 
2013-12-23 11:09:36 AM

FTFA:

The pilot's motives are not known


In before they tell us the pilot was islamic.
 
2013-12-23 11:10:22 AM
Happened before, look at EgyptAir 990.
 
2013-12-23 11:11:49 AM

show me: I wonder how many flights they have where only some of the passengers are on board.


Screw getting ON the plane, I'm getting IN the plane. Seems less windy in there.
 
2013-12-23 11:13:07 AM
If you are the pilot and want to crash the plane, don't you just point it down? Why set the autopilot for a low altitude and the then go to the crapper? Maybe he just had a terrible case of the trots and had to rush to the toilet before he could finish setting the auopilot?
 
2013-12-23 11:13:30 AM
This is what happens when you don't let your pilot drink off his depression in the food court before takeoff.
 
2013-12-23 11:14:34 AM
Give me a second to sign up for that flight life insurance and I'm in...

xmas present for the wife.
 
2013-12-23 11:16:08 AM

GameSprocket: If you are the pilot and want to crash the plane, don't you just point it down? Why set the autopilot for a low altitude and the then go to the crapper? Maybe he just had a terrible case of the trots and had to rush to the toilet before he could finish setting the auopilot?


Ummmm. How bout go RTFA and try again.
 
2013-12-23 11:17:27 AM
Tawkalt ala Allah
 
2013-12-23 11:18:52 AM
RAMMING SPEED!!1!
 
2013-12-23 11:19:20 AM

GameSprocket: If you are the pilot and want to crash the plane, don't you just point it down? Why set the autopilot for a low altitude and the then go to the crapper? Maybe he just had a terrible case of the trots and had to rush to the toilet before he could finish setting the auopilot?


What?  The pilot did all this after the co-pilot left the cockpit.
 
2013-12-23 11:20:59 AM

show me: All 27 passengers and six crew members were on board when the plane crashed in the Bwabwata National Park in Namibia.

I wonder how many flights they have where only some of the passengers are on board.


We're talking about Africa here; they'd strap themselves to the wings if you don't keep an eye on them.
 
2013-12-23 11:21:43 AM
I like how the first sentence of the article answers the question in the title.
 
2013-12-23 11:22:36 AM

Alonjar: GameSprocket: If you are the pilot and want to crash the plane, don't you just point it down? Why set the autopilot for a low altitude and the then go to the crapper? Maybe he just had a terrible case of the trots and had to rush to the toilet before he could finish setting the auopilot?

What?  The pilot did all this after the co-pilot left the cockpit.


That'll teach me to skim articles while multitasking.
 
2013-12-23 11:25:50 AM

LessO2: Happened before, look at EgyptAir 990.


And FedEx Flight 705.
 
2013-12-23 11:26:14 AM
Radar data showed that, at an obligatory reporting position over northern Botswana, the plane suddenly started to slow downwards rapidly.

What a peculiarly worded sentence.
 
2013-12-23 11:27:51 AM

HenryFnord: It's happened before.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SilkAir_Flight_185


www.911familiesforamerica.org
 
2013-12-23 11:28:17 AM
If God had intended man to fly he would have given us all airplanes.
 
2013-12-23 11:28:58 AM
It was a near miss.
 
2013-12-23 11:29:50 AM
Should you ever be worried about the reliability of the mechanical systems flying the plane, just wait until you see the biological systems.
 
2013-12-23 11:30:11 AM
He never got over Namibia.
 
2013-12-23 11:31:58 AM
what pretzels? you must be flying first class
 
2013-12-23 11:34:23 AM
alien-ufo-research.com
 
2013-12-23 11:34:53 AM
eas81:

Oh, I'm sorry. I must have missed the paragraph in the article detailing how this was an intentional act of terrorism perpetrated by misguided Muslim jihadists. I thought this was the act of one desperate man at the controls.
 
2013-12-23 11:38:44 AM
do pilots have to undergo testing for depression/ suicide as part of their job?
 
2013-12-23 11:38:58 AM
Not everyone chipped in for the "safe arrival as destination" surcharge.
 
2013-12-23 11:43:52 AM
What language is this article written in? Google translate from some African dialect to English?

"the plane suddenly started to slow downwards rapidly."

could it have slowed upwards?

"The plane's movements were normal before that, with no mechanical functions"

was it using magical functions?
 
2013-12-23 11:45:27 AM
To be fair, the pilot did politely ask that acapella group to shut it before resorting to drastic measures.
 
2013-12-23 11:47:06 AM
I read that as "nude".
 
2013-12-23 12:01:04 PM

tillerman35: LessO2: Happened before, look at EgyptAir 990.

And FedEx Flight 705.


Well close.   Calloway was a non-revenue passenger and was only a flight engineer (while they often also hold pilot certificates, a flight engineer is not a pilot any more than the flight attendant is).     His original intent however was to do so on one of his own flights, but he'd been removed from flight status.   He then proceeded to try to take over the flight after bashing in the rest of the crew with a sledge hammer.

My FedEx buddy gave me the following question:

Q.  What's the difference between a FedEx pilot and a Northwest pilot?

A.   The Northwest pilot gets hammered before the flight.
 
2013-12-23 12:04:47 PM

LessO2: Happened before, look at EgyptAir 990.


Is what I was thinking. Especially since he was heard praying on the cockpit recorder.
 
2013-12-23 12:08:42 PM
Serves them right, damn kiddy fiddlers, and how can it be "North American... so on" when it's in Africa?
 
2013-12-23 12:09:47 PM

AMonkey'sUncle: LessO2: Happened before, look at EgyptAir 990.

Is what I was thinking. Especially since he was heard praying on the cockpit recorder.


About that... "#2. EgyptAir Flight 990 Crashed Because of a Sexual Misconduct Charge, Not Jihad"http://www.cracked.com/article_19876_6-famous-news-stories-tha t-forgot -to-tell-you-best-part_p2.html
 
2013-12-23 12:29:20 PM

bunner: I think it's time to have a serious discussion about raising the minimum pilot wage.


The invisible hand of the market...
 
2013-12-23 12:30:07 PM
Wow, Angola, Namibia, Mozambique, Botswana and the U.S are all mentioned in this article.  What happen were Iceland and The Falkland Islands too busy to get involved.
 
2013-12-23 12:30:27 PM

Squigley: What language is this article written in? Google translate from some African dialect to English?

"the plane suddenly started to slow downwards rapidly."

could it have slowed upwards?


Technically, yes.  Pull up sharply and you'll start to lose speed pretty rapidly.

"The plane's movements were normal before that, with no mechanical functions"

was it using magical functions?


Electrical functions.  However, the absence of any mechanical function may contribute to slightly crashy behaviour in an aircraft.
 
2013-12-23 12:34:27 PM

SlothB77: do pilots have to undergo testing for depression/ suicide as part of their job?


If someone knows they are possibly suicidal, yes. If they don't tell anyone, they don't screen for that.

I had the misfortune of working in a group psych practice that saw suicidal pilots. It's more common than you think and they frequently fantasize about taking everyone with them.
 
2013-12-23 12:37:47 PM
Bet he won't do that again.
 
2013-12-23 12:41:25 PM

slykens1: show me: I wonder how many flights they have where only some of the passengers are on board.

Screw getting ON the plane, I'm getting IN the plane. Seems less windy in there.


Plane?  We are talking about boards here.  Try and keep up.
 
2013-12-23 01:07:56 PM
Based on the evidence, it may not have been intentional; I'm not convinced it was or wasn't.

Here's the facts from the story:
1) Copilot was out of the flight deck going to the bathroom
2) Plane pitched downward.
3) Copilot tried banging on the door to get in.
4) Altitude adjuster was changed 3 times manually on the way down.

So, there was no one in the flight deck except the pilot. He could have had a heart attack or something else happen, and fell forward on to the flight yoke. If it was a series of heart attacks, he could have been struggling to get up and accidentally hit buttons on the controls, or been too out of it because of pain and shock and was trying desparately to correct the plane and put it right, but ended up turning the adjuster in the wrong direction in his confusion. There are other explanations that aren't is far to jump as "intentional murder of 33 people."
 
2013-12-23 01:14:02 PM
Another in a long list of reasons I will never see Africa... Which is tied with India for places I least want to visit.
 
2013-12-23 01:14:04 PM
This is a repeat, right?
 
2013-12-23 01:29:29 PM
I thought this was going to be about that Air France Airbus out of South America.  The powers that be (I guess with help from the NTSB) found that the co-pilot had been inputting full back on his yoke (just a hand control; not like the older yokes) while the pilot was inputting something else.  The system doesn't give yoke feedback about the other pilot's yoke.  They ended up impacting the Atlantic at about 100-120 MPH.

I'm not sure I'd fly in an Airbus.  Too much reliance on computers and such.
 
2013-12-23 02:10:27 PM

scubamage: Based on the evidence, it may not have been intentional; I'm not convinced it was or wasn't.

Here's the facts from the story:
1) Copilot was out of the flight deck going to the bathroom
2) Plane pitched downward.
3) Copilot tried banging on the door to get in.
4) Altitude adjuster was changed 3 times manually on the way down.

So, there was no one in the flight deck except the pilot. He could have had a heart attack or something else happen, and fell forward on to the flight yoke. If it was a series of heart attacks, he could have been struggling to get up and accidentally hit buttons on the controls, or been too out of it because of pain and shock and was trying desparately to correct the plane and put it right, but ended up turning the adjuster in the wrong direction in his confusion. There are other explanations that aren't is far to jump as "intentional murder of 33 people."


It doesn't work that way. They are cruising in the flight levels, so the autopilot is on. If you push forward on the yoke with the autopilot engaged, the AP will fight it by trimming the aircraft to go nose up. It will get to the point where the AP will say, "fark it" and then disengage. When it disengages, the aircraft will pitch up pretty abruptly. From what I gather, the airplane just started going down while leveling off a few times before hitting the ground. it never gained altitude. It was in control all the way to the ground. Also, he was playing with the altitude selector and selecting a lower altitude each time.
What else? The CVR doesn't indicate any sort of struggling in the cockpit. No moans of pain or flailing about trying to do something.
 
2013-12-23 03:53:01 PM

LessO2: LessO2: Happened before, look at EgyptAir 990.


Came for this.  Leaving on anything but Islamic Air.
 
2013-12-23 05:14:57 PM
GameSprocket

If you are the pilot and want to crash the plane, don't you just point it down? Why set the autopilot for a low altitude and the then go to the crapper? Maybe he just had a terrible case of the trots and had to rush to the toilet before he could finish setting the auopilot?

You should really thank your public school teachers for the brilliant job they did with helping you become literate.
Guess how we know you're an obama voter.
 
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