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(TampaBay.com (St. Petersburg Tim)   40 year old deaf and homeless man forced to repay $2,000 to the Homeless Recovery program after qualifying for disability. Did I say 40 year old man? I meant a 4 year old boy   (tampabay.com) divider line 67
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2013-12-22 09:39:10 PM
The county should only ask for full/partial reimbursement if the windfall payment is a substantial payment, $15k or higher (or something. I'd leave the amount to an actuary). A lot of times you have to go through years of appeals before you get your first payment, which is prorated. Simply needing help to get to that final day, should not wipe out the majority of your initial disbursement.

You want these people to get that initial large payment so they can put up a deposit, first/last months rent, furniture, clothes. Get on a solid footing to maybe get the f*ck out of the rut they are in. After that, assess what, if any they owe in reimbursement.

Even then, it should not be a lump sum reimbursement, but phased in to account for the income or lack thereof of the family or individual.
 
2013-12-22 09:41:21 PM
Wow. What a dick move.
 
2013-12-22 09:55:37 PM
Florida is a teabagger paradise.
 
2013-12-22 10:10:29 PM

hardinparamedic: Wow. What a dick move.


It's a red state.
 
2013-12-22 10:42:07 PM
I'm too lazy to click on the link. Did he get it based on his supposed deafness or that and a combination of some fake disease?  Maybe asthma?  ADHD?  Autism?  Depression?  I've ranked those by likelihood. Of course, since there's some press around this one maybe he's actually, honest to God, can't hear a word you're saying, like Hellen Keller but with sight-- deaf.  But I'm guessing he was denied initially and only got the benefits on appeal, which almost certainly means it's one of the fake diseases I listed or he's only partially deaf and got an attorney to spin things for him. That's how it works. Don't believe me?  Go check out how many "underprivileged" youths collect disability.  Then look at their mostly fictitious illnesses. Big pharma loves them federally supported medical care.

Too many takers, not enough makers.

Who's with me?
 
2013-12-22 11:11:03 PM

nickdaisy: I'm too lazy to click on the link. Did he get it based on his supposed deafness or that and a combination of some fake disease?  Maybe asthma?  ADHD?  Autism?  Depression?  I've ranked those by likelihood. Of course, since there's some press around this one maybe he's actually, honest to God, can't hear a word you're saying, like Hellen Keller but with sight-- deaf.  But I'm guessing he was denied initially and only got the benefits on appeal, which almost certainly means it's one of the fake diseases I listed or he's only partially deaf and got an attorney to spin things for him. That's how it works. Don't believe me?  Go check out how many "underprivileged" youths collect disability.  Then look at their mostly fictitious illnesses. Big pharma loves them federally supported medical care.

Too many takers, not enough makers.

Who's with me?


Well, that was some authentic frontier gibberish right there.

If you'd been a little less lazy you've have realized your rant had nothing to do with the article.
 
2013-12-22 11:14:40 PM
Did that article say a 4 year old child was being paid employment disability checks for his hearing problems?
 
2013-12-22 11:35:50 PM

HotWingAgenda: Did that article say a 4 year old child was being paid employment disability checks for his hearing problems?


Probably SSDI.
 
2013-12-22 11:39:50 PM
It wouldn't be so bad if the money had gone for something other than a bug infested substandard housing in a leaking trailer. But Hillsborough County Social Services has long been run by people who were friends with one another and revolved through jobs at the county and the urban league and poorly organized and often shady 'non-profits' and lined their pockets with county money.
 
2013-12-22 11:40:59 PM

Bucky Katt: Florida is a teabagger paradise.


Says someone who has never lived in Florida
 
2013-12-22 11:44:51 PM
i190.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-22 11:45:33 PM

NewportBarGuy: The county should only ask for full/partial reimbursement if the windfall payment is a substantial payment, $15k or higher (or something. I'd leave the amount to an actuary). A lot of times you have to go through years of appeals before you get your first payment, which is prorated. Simply needing help to get to that final day, should not wipe out the majority of your initial disbursement.

You want these people to get that initial large payment so they can put up a deposit, first/last months rent, furniture, clothes. Get on a solid footing to maybe get the f*ck out of the rut they are in. After that, assess what, if any they owe in reimbursement.

Even then, it should not be a lump sum reimbursement, but phased in to account for the income or lack thereof of the family or individual.


I agree completely. I live in the next county west and we don't do that. Our homeless family program (run by a QUANGO the Juvenile Welfare Board) never looks to a client to reimburse them except in the rarest cases of fraud and then there probably isn't any money anyway.
 
2013-12-22 11:46:15 PM
But does he play a mean pinball?
 
2013-12-22 11:51:33 PM

i.imgur.com

 
2013-12-22 11:51:58 PM
I think that homeless couple needs a few more kids.
 
2013-12-22 11:52:28 PM
For years, veterans, the disabled and families with small children have been forced to live among sex offenders or in cramped, bug-infested spaces.

I know the rental property they call "bug-infested and sex offenders" oriented. In fact I own the property in question, there are no sex offenders here, secondly if I own the trailer I fix the problems while renting what my father priced in 1985. There was one child molester that moved here that had to move away within a month, he was forced to relocate to the woods because we are within 1,500 feet of a bus stop. The bug infested trailer was termites that a previous tenant was unwilling to allow us to fix because he was unwilling to let us inside the trailer, the so called tenant moved out and left the trailer saying I would be unwilling to fix it and tried to sue me in court and lost.
 
2013-12-22 11:52:42 PM

Oldiron_79: But does he play a mean pinball?


Only when trying to get way from her....

rgcred.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-12-22 11:54:26 PM
wait till he owes 185k....
 
2013-12-22 11:55:32 PM

Misconduc: For years, veterans, the disabled and families with small children have been forced to live among sex offenders or in cramped, bug-infested spaces.

I know the rental property they call "bug-infested and sex offenders" oriented. In fact I own the property in question, there are no sex offenders here, secondly if I own the trailer I fix the problems while renting what my father priced in 1985. There was one child molester that moved here that had to move away within a month, he was forced to relocate to the woods because we are within 1,500 feet of a bus stop. The bug infested trailer was termites that a previous tenant was unwilling to allow us to fix because he was unwilling to let us inside the trailer, the so called tenant moved out and left the trailer saying I would be unwilling to fix it and tried to sue me in court and lost.


Weird. It's a small world after all.

So are you saying I shouldn't trust the media???
 
2013-12-22 11:56:37 PM

Nightjars: Oldiron_79: But does he play a mean pinball?

Only when trying to get way from her....

[rgcred.files.wordpress.com image 500x269]


Bust a deal, spin the wheel...
 
2013-12-23 12:10:22 AM
Local government charging thousands in rent for an infested slum? Sounds like Florida alright.
 
msP
2013-12-23 12:22:43 AM
This makes me so sad and I am so dissapointed to call Tampa my home that I can't even bring myself to make a comment about the fact that they shouldn't have kids if they're homeless...

/okay, maybe I can
 
2013-12-23 12:25:28 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Bucky Katt: Florida is a teabagger paradise.

Says someone who has never lived in Florida


well, actually....
 
2013-12-23 12:26:17 AM

Misconduc: he was forced to relocate to the woods because we are within 1,500 feet of a bus stop.


God damnit, this shiat just pisses me off. Yes, lets not have the sex offender in community where they know the neighbors and have ties to the community and people know what's going on with them. Lets put the sex offender in the middle of the freaking woods where he can get up to god-knows-what, because some idiot said "think of the children" and passed laws that prevent them from living anywhere that doesn't say "perfect for an aspiring axe murder" in the listing.
 
2013-12-23 12:27:35 AM
Just your standard Red state "Lets reduce poverty by driving all the poor people out of the state" plan.
 
2013-12-23 12:34:40 AM

Bucky Katt: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Bucky Katt: Florida is a teabagger paradise.

Says someone who has never lived in Florida

well, actually....


Oh come on, SW Florida is not really Florida!

/former Sarasotan
 
2013-12-23 12:37:38 AM
Seriously it has always seemed to me that just because someone who was getting help from the county/state  qualifies for another kind of help and gets a lump sum payment for back dated benefits is no reason the county/state should get a cut of those.

Seriously they are helping people who need help and taking away money that is rightfully theirs is not helping and it needs to stop.
 
2013-12-23 12:39:11 AM
Welcome to your Republican paradise.
 
2013-12-23 12:45:50 AM
gifs.gifbin.com

Very obligatory.
 
2013-12-23 12:52:54 AM
www.redletterchristians.org
 
2013-12-23 12:53:44 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Bucky Katt: Florida is a teabagger paradise.

Says someone who has never lived in Florida


Never lived in Mordor either, but I would not want to walk there.
 
2013-12-23 01:14:00 AM
Well, let me know when you have more jobs than kids, mmkay?  28 years old, no education....sucks for the kids, but this is par for the course.
 
2013-12-23 01:23:51 AM

TV's Vinnie:


My parents didn't have one for quite a while when they were first married. They used a large styrofoam box and bought ice when they shopped for groceries.
 
2013-12-23 01:28:46 AM
4 or  40 it doesn't matter at either of those times in your life if that is where you are your FARKED
forever.
 
2013-12-23 01:32:37 AM
Subby, you know you can edit a subline before you submit it.
 
2013-12-23 01:39:21 AM
You know what, F*CK FLORIDA.

In fact, f*ck this entire country. Why do I even live here? Why does anyone? Why do we tolerate this sh*t?

Oh and as far as this:

baronbloodbath: Well, let me know when you have more jobs than kids, mmkay?  28 years old, no education....sucks for the kids, but this is par for the course.


F*ck you too. Did you even bother to read so far as the fact that they weren't homeless till the father lost his job? That they were doing fine until then? And that it used to be that a high-school diploma would be fine for getting work until it was decided that everyone must have a college education? What the hell is your problem?

I'm not sure who makes me more furious, the idiot state of Florida, or idiots like you and your callous intolerance. I hope you soon lose your job and your kids are all deformed.
 
2013-12-23 01:39:57 AM

NewportBarGuy: The county should only ask for full/partial reimbursement if the windfall payment is a substantial payment, $15k or higher (or something. I'd leave the amount to an actuary). A lot of times you have to go through years of appeals before you get your first payment, which is prorated. Simply needing help to get to that final day, should not wipe out the majority of your initial disbursement.

You want these people to get that initial large payment so they can put up a deposit, first/last months rent, furniture, clothes. Get on a solid footing to maybe get the f*ck out of the rut they are in. After that, assess what, if any they owe in reimbursement.

Even then, it should not be a lump sum reimbursement, but phased in to account for the income or lack thereof of the family or individual.


My father is disabled and about 10 years ago won a settlement from his former insurance company for wrongful termination of his policy.  The state took a nice chunk out for repayment of aid after the lawyers got their share so he only ended up with about 1/3 of the total settlement.  It's mind boggling that the programs set up to help the needy claw that money back from them the second they get enough cash to actually improve their circumstances in the name of balanced budgets.

The exemption line should be much, much higher.  A mere 15 or 25k will go fast when you need to move to decent place, or pay for medical expenses or get a car that's less than 20 years old.
 
2013-12-23 01:46:06 AM

Gyrfalcon: You know what, F*CK FLORIDA.

In fact, f*ck this entire country. Why do I even live here? Why does anyone? Why do we tolerate this sh*t?

Oh and as far as this: baronbloodbath: Well, let me know when you have more jobs than kids, mmkay?  28 years old, no education....sucks for the kids, but this is par for the course.

F*ck you too. Did you even bother to read so far as the fact that they weren't homeless till the father lost his job? That they were doing fine until then? And that it used to be that a high-school diploma would be fine for getting work until it was decided that everyone must have a college education? What the hell is your problem?

I'm not sure who makes me more furious, the idiot state of Florida, or idiots like you and your callous intolerance. I hope you soon lose your job and your kids are all deformed.


It is not the entire state it is Hillsborough county (and Miami I think) that do this.

You're more than welcome to move if you don't like it in this country, perchance Dennis Rodman will put you in his luggage and drop you off on his next trip to North Korea.

As to the other person's comment I agree it was stupid, but you whinging about how terrible this country is is just as annoying. They are getting help from the taxpayers, sure the way they recoup the funds is crappy and needs to change (and changes in Hillsborough's corrupt social services are in the works - see the story I linked to above).
 
2013-12-23 01:47:44 AM

Baryogenesis: NewportBarGuy: The county should only ask for full/partial reimbursement if the windfall payment is a substantial payment, $15k or higher (or something. I'd leave the amount to an actuary). A lot of times you have to go through years of appeals before you get your first payment, which is prorated. Simply needing help to get to that final day, should not wipe out the majority of your initial disbursement.

You want these people to get that initial large payment so they can put up a deposit, first/last months rent, furniture, clothes. Get on a solid footing to maybe get the f*ck out of the rut they are in. After that, assess what, if any they owe in reimbursement.

Even then, it should not be a lump sum reimbursement, but phased in to account for the income or lack thereof of the family or individual.

My father is disabled and about 10 years ago won a settlement from his former insurance company for wrongful termination of his policy.  The state took a nice chunk out for repayment of aid after the lawyers got their share so he only ended up with about 1/3 of the total settlement.  It's mind boggling that the programs set up to help the needy claw that money back from them the second they get enough cash to actually improve their circumstances in the name of balanced budgets.

The exemption line should be much, much higher.  A mere 15 or 25k will go fast when you need to move to decent place, or pay for medical expenses or get a car that's less than 20 years old.


bAHHHHAAAAAA.. HERE IN SOVIT KANUKISAN 15 OR 25 THOUSAND GETS YOU 12 THOUSAND SUCK IT SOCIALISTS.

/12K  is disability here
 
2013-12-23 01:51:24 AM

feckingmorons: Gyrfalcon: You know what, F*CK FLORIDA.

In fact, f*ck this entire country. Why do I even live here? Why does anyone? Why do we tolerate this sh*t?

Oh and as far as this: baronbloodbath: Well, let me know when you have more jobs than kids, mmkay?  28 years old, no education....sucks for the kids, but this is par for the course.

F*ck you too. Did you even bother to read so far as the fact that they weren't homeless till the father lost his job? That they were doing fine until then? And that it used to be that a high-school diploma would be fine for getting work until it was decided that everyone must have a college education? What the hell is your problem?

I'm not sure who makes me more furious, the idiot state of Florida, or idiots like you and your callous intolerance. I hope you soon lose your job and your kids are all deformed.

It is not the entire state it is Hillsborough county (and Miami I think) that do this.

You're more than welcome to move if you don't like it in this country, perchance Dennis Rodman will put you in his luggage and drop you off on his next trip to North Korea.

As to the other person's comment I agree it was stupid, but you whinging about how terrible this country is is just as annoying. They are getting help from the taxpayers, sure the way they recoup the funds is crappy and needs to change (and changes in Hillsborough's corrupt social services are in the works - see the story I linked to above).


I certainly don't need to be lectured by YOU about stupid comments.
 
2013-12-23 02:05:42 AM

Gyrfalcon: I certainly don't need to be lectured by YOU about stupid comments.


Yes, that is true you are obviously an expert from what I've read in this thread.
 
2013-12-23 02:27:25 AM
Hey, Florida.
Florida.
Hey......hey

Fark you!
 
2013-12-23 03:50:57 AM
You can complain all you want. BUT UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY PUSH BACK Then your still part of the problem and not the solution.
 
2013-12-23 03:59:54 AM

Rincewind53: nickdaisy: I'm too lazy to click on the link. Did he get it based on his supposed deafness or that and a combination of some fake disease?  Maybe asthma?  ADHD?  Autism?  Depression?  I've ranked those by likelihood. Of course, since there's some press around this one maybe he's actually, honest to God, can't hear a word you're saying, like Hellen Keller but with sight-- deaf.  But I'm guessing he was denied initially and only got the benefits on appeal, which almost certainly means it's one of the fake diseases I listed or he's only partially deaf and got an attorney to spin things for him. That's how it works. Don't believe me?  Go check out how many "underprivileged" youths collect disability.  Then look at their mostly fictitious illnesses. Big pharma loves them federally supported medical care.

Too many takers, not enough makers.

Who's with me?

Well, that was some authentic frontier gibberish right there.

If you'd been a little less lazy you've have realized your rant had nothing to do with the article.


i290.photobucket.com

i581.photobucket.com

memedepot.com
 
2013-12-23 04:06:29 AM

DrPainMD: Rincewind53: nickdaisy: I'm too lazy to click on the link. Did he get it based on his supposed deafness or that and a combination of some fake disease?  Maybe asthma?  ADHD?  Autism?  Depression?  I've ranked those by likelihood. Of course, since there's some press around this one maybe he's actually, honest to God, can't hear a word you're saying, like Hellen Keller but with sight-- deaf.  But I'm guessing he was denied initially and only got the benefits on appeal, which almost certainly means it's one of the fake diseases I listed or he's only partially deaf and got an attorney to spin things for him. That's how it works. Don't believe me?  Go check out how many "underprivileged" youths collect disability.  Then look at their mostly fictitious illnesses. Big pharma loves them federally supported medical care.

Too many takers, not enough makers.

Who's with me?

Well, that was some authentic frontier gibberish right there.

If you'd been a little less lazy you've have realized your rant had nothing to do with the article.

[i290.photobucket.com image 160x120]

[i581.photobucket.com image 340x454]

[memedepot.com image 413x413]


That's rich coming from a guy who's been here eight fewer years than me.
 
2013-12-23 04:07:06 AM

Gyrfalcon: F*ck you too. Did you even bother to read so far as the fact that they weren't homeless till the father lost his job? That they were doing fine until then?


Except for that whole "saving for a rainy day" thing.
 
2013-12-23 04:10:24 AM

Rincewind53: DrPainMD: Rincewind53: nickdaisy: I'm too lazy to click on the link. Did he get it based on his supposed deafness or that and a combination of some fake disease?  Maybe asthma?  ADHD?  Autism?  Depression?  I've ranked those by likelihood. Of course, since there's some press around this one maybe he's actually, honest to God, can't hear a word you're saying, like Hellen Keller but with sight-- deaf.  But I'm guessing he was denied initially and only got the benefits on appeal, which almost certainly means it's one of the fake diseases I listed or he's only partially deaf and got an attorney to spin things for him. That's how it works. Don't believe me?  Go check out how many "underprivileged" youths collect disability.  Then look at their mostly fictitious illnesses. Big pharma loves them federally supported medical care.

Too many takers, not enough makers.

Who's with me?

Well, that was some authentic frontier gibberish right there.

If you'd been a little less lazy you've have realized your rant had nothing to do with the article.

[i290.photobucket.com image 160x120]

[i581.photobucket.com image 340x454]

[memedepot.com image 413x413]

That's rich coming from a guy who's been here eight fewer years than me.


...under my current alt.
 
2013-12-23 04:49:21 AM

DrPainMD: Rincewind53: nickdaisy: I'm too lazy to click on the link. Did he get it based on his supposed deafness or that and a combination of some fake disease?  Maybe asthma?  ADHD?  Autism?  Depression?  I've ranked those by likelihood. Of course, since there's some press around this one maybe he's actually, honest to God, can't hear a word you're saying, like Hellen Keller but with sight-- deaf.  But I'm guessing he was denied initially and only got the benefits on appeal, which almost certainly means it's one of the fake diseases I listed or he's only partially deaf and got an attorney to spin things for him. That's how it works. Don't believe me?  Go check out how many "underprivileged" youths collect disability.  Then look at their mostly fictitious illnesses. Big pharma loves them federally supported medical care.

Too many takers, not enough makers.

Who's with me?

Well, that was some authentic frontier gibberish right there.

If you'd been a little less lazy you've have realized your rant had nothing to do with the article.

[i290.photobucket.com image 160x120]

[i581.photobucket.com image 340x454]

[memedepot.com image 413x413]


You forgot this new one. =)
img.fark.net
 
2013-12-23 06:46:28 AM

msP: This makes me so sad and I am so dissapointed to call Tampa my home that I can't even bring myself to make a comment about the fact that they shouldn't have kids if they're homeless...

/okay, maybe I can


Indeed. Seeing as how all five children sprang fully formed and pre-aged from the womb during this couple's period of homelessness, it is clear that the adults involved made a very foolish decision.

/actually, yeah, the fewer kids, the sooner mom can re-enter the workforce, halving the family's chance of being incomeless.
 
2013-12-23 07:03:23 AM

TV's Vinnie: [www.redletterchristians.org image 636x480]


I'm waiting for Bill O' or similar contributor to make this speech:

"90% of 'poor' households have at least one child. This, despite the average cost of adopting a healthy child being over $50,000. Even more outrageous, most working families cite 'finances' as their reason for not having an additional child. And no wonder! Do YOU have $50,000 cash sitting in the bank? Why should society's takers enjoy such expensive luxuries as its makers cannot afford? Before these whiners apply for aid, they should be required to liquidate ALL assets, including their fancy furniture, vehicles, appliances, jewelry, real estate, and of course, babies."
 
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