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(Den Of Geek)   Ten remarkable things about Superman IV: The Quest for Peace   ( denofgeek.com) divider line
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2013-12-23 01:00:28 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Confabulat: Superman was interesting in Man of Steel. If you want the one-dimensional Big Blue Boy Scout, that's what the Quest for Peace is for.

Eh, it was an attempt to make him interesting, and while it should have worked, it was executed poorly. There were interesting moments, mostly having to do with his interactions with his dad as a kid, but the rest of the movie kinda sucked with exception to the visual effects. And the people that thought it was a good idea to use that spaceship sound effect all throughout the movie needs to be cockpunched.


Man of Steel was ripping off James Cameron's formula for a movie: Great SFX and a decent/bad script.
 
2013-12-23 02:57:37 PM  

yves0010: peterthx: Omis: Snapper Carr: Superman 4 makes Superman 3 look like Superman I

Superman Returns makes Superman 4 look like Superman 2.

Only on the internet. With the fanboys.

PirateKing: I'll admit I enjoyed Man of Steel. It wasn't perfect, but it was fun.

That's the problem with Man of Steel. It wasn't fun. It was depressing.

Man of Steel is one of my favorite Superman movies because it did the one thing that most, if not all, of the Superman movies failed to do... Let him punch someone at full strength and watch them fly through buildings. I always loved that in Superman the Animated Series and Justice League. Superman going all out and punching someone through 5 buildings then catching them and throwing them into the ground creating a crater. Sure, its not perfect but then again, no comic book movie is ever perfect. But it is still one of the best attempts to make Superman actually be Superman.

And I am sick of the whole Neck Snapping argument. I have yet to see anyone complain as much about Batman killing hundreds of people when he blew up the League of Shadow's HQ.


I enjoyed Man of Steel. It involved a kid who was very conflicted while growing up because of his abilities and what would happen if people discovered them. He could have saved his father, but Pa Kent knew that would reveal too much, so he sacrificed himself to save his adopted son from a world that probably wasn't ready for him.

I liked what happened with Zod. Zod pushed Superman into the battle, not the other way around. Zod defined the battlefield and Superman had no choice but to fight him there. If Superman ran, Zod would have killed more people.

The neck snapping scene was one of my favourite parts. Superman didn't want to kill Zod, but he wasn't about to allow weaker and innocent people to be killed. In the end, Superman realized hit his emotional breaking point - and it hurt him because he knew he had no choice to do what he did. I think Superman took a quantum of solace in the fact that he killed somebody who was his equal, but it was still hard to take after living with humans for so long.

Also, Amy Adams is hot. Something about her. She's pretty, but not stunningly beautiful. There is something about her...
 
2013-12-23 03:17:47 PM  

Sinbox: Cannon Films made 6,324 films during the 1980s and only 7 of them are worth a sh*t:

1. Barfly

2. 52 Pick Up

3. Ninja III: The Domination

4. Runaway Train

5. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2

6. Tough Guys Don't Dance

7. Street Smart


Christopher Reeve only agreed to do Superman IV if the studio financed Street Smart, which was a film Reeve was trying to get made for some time. It was the first major starring role for Morgan Freeman, who was mostly known at the time for playing Easy Reader on The Electric Company, and two years before he became a star with Driving Miss Daisy. So if Superman IV wasn't made, Morgan Freeman might not have become a movie star.
 
2013-12-23 06:51:53 PM  
Metropolis is in Delaware. It's not New York City. It might be based on Manhattan (and Toronto), but it currently exists in Delaware, across from Gotham City, New Jersey.

Either way, it's not in England.
 
2013-12-23 07:05:46 PM  

aendeuryu: Sinbox: Cannon Films made 6,324 films during the 1980s and only 7 of them are worth a sh*t:

1. Barfly

2. 52 Pick Up

3. Ninja III: The Domination

4. Runaway Train

5. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2

6. Tough Guys Don't Dance

7. Street Smart

Oy. Let's not forget Delta Force, wherein Chuck Norris's motorbike literally farts rockets.


If we're talking Chuck/Cannon I'd go with this one:

i40.tinypic.com
 
2013-12-23 09:05:54 PM  
At the same time this movie was released in DC comics, Firestorm declared he was going to rid the world of nuclear weapons.

The Russians sent a Rocket Red super soldier after him


The Americans just nuked him

goodcomics.comicbookresources.com
 
2013-12-23 09:30:01 PM  

peterthx: yves0010: Man of Steel is one of my favorite Superman movies because it did the one thing that most, if not all, of the Superman movies failed to do... Let him punch someone at full strength and watch them fly through buildings. I always loved that in Superman the Animated Series and Justice League. Superman going all out and punching someone through 5 buildings then catching them and throwing them into the ground creating a crater. Sure, its not perfect but then again, no comic book movie is ever perfect. But it is still one of the best attempts to make Superman actually be Superman.

And I am sick of the whole Neck Snapping argument. I have yet to see anyone complain as much about Batman killing hundreds of people when he blew up the League of Shadow's HQ.

Ohhh. He punched someone. I know that's my barometer for a superhero movie.

Superman isn't Batman. He isn't supposed to be all piss & moan and woe is me.



Why not?  Batman lost his parents. Superman lost not just his parents, but everyone who would ever be like him. If anything, he had more reason to be all woe is me.
People who biatched about Superman in Man of Steel often forget that that darker approach is exactly what fanboys asked for because they thought Superman Returns was too vanilla.

They want it both ways more than mid-70s David Bowie.
 
2013-12-23 09:46:25 PM  
stoli n coke:
Why not?  Batman lost his parents. Superman lost not just his parents, but everyone who would ever be like him. If anything, he had more reason to be all woe is me.

Kal-El was an infant (hours to days old). Bruce Wayne saw his parents brutally murdered in front of him several years old. Quite a difference.
 
2013-12-23 09:56:41 PM  

stoli n coke: peterthx: yves0010: Man of Steel is one of my favorite Superman movies because it did the one thing that most, if not all, of the Superman movies failed to do... Let him punch someone at full strength and watch them fly through buildings. I always loved that in Superman the Animated Series and Justice League. Superman going all out and punching someone through 5 buildings then catching them and throwing them into the ground creating a crater. Sure, its not perfect but then again, no comic book movie is ever perfect. But it is still one of the best attempts to make Superman actually be Superman.

And I am sick of the whole Neck Snapping argument. I have yet to see anyone complain as much about Batman killing hundreds of people when he blew up the League of Shadow's HQ.

Ohhh. He punched someone. I know that's my barometer for a superhero movie.

Superman isn't Batman. He isn't supposed to be all piss & moan and woe is me.


Why not?  Batman lost his parents. Superman lost not just his parents, but everyone who would ever be like him. If anything, he had more reason to be all woe is me.
People who biatched about Superman in Man of Steel often forget that that darker approach is exactly what fanboys asked for because they thought Superman Returns was too vanilla.

They want it both ways more than mid-70s David Bowie.


I don't remember anyone either in person or on Fark saying that Superman Returns was too vanilla. I remember a lot of complaints about going the "Luther and real estate" bullshiat again, I remember the bit about having a horrible choice for Lois. I remember people saying Spacey chewed up the scenery in a bad way. I remember people wondering why Lois didn't just farking tell Supes about the kid and a number of other complaints, but I don't remember anyone saying it was too vanilla.

Also "dark approach" doesn't necessarily mean all whiny and emo. A good "dark" Superman approach would be something like Red Son, or any of the variations of Supes where he decides the world and humankind are seriously flawed and takes it upon himself to rule the world with an iron fist. Or maybe a variation of the JLU double episode "A Better World".

The concept for Man of Steel was solid, and there were good parts, but the over all execution sucked.
 
2013-12-23 10:50:30 PM  
The guy who brought the world the monstrously entertaining (and educational) documentaries

hNot Quite Hollywood:The Wild, Untold Story of OZploitation (Unabashedly NSFW trailer)

Machete Maidens Unleashed  (NSFW trailer)

is currently in pre-production on one covering Cannon Films.

He'll be filming it following his work promoting his recent debut into the world of non-documentary filmmaking (a remake of the late-1970's Aussie horror flick Patrick).

And yeah, If I had to make that 7 into a 10, I'd add Revenge of the Ninja , Invasion U.S.A. and The Apple. (not a one of which I'd consider anything approaching "good" but they are the most entertainingly awful of the remainder).
 
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