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(Mashable)   So it turns out you CAN be fired for what you tweet when you're drunk   (mashable.com) divider line 166
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2013-12-22 11:36:34 PM  

Witness99: whatshisname: Witness99: I should have been an entrepreneur.

You can't say stupid racist things without consequences when you're an entrepreneur, either.

I agree, and I don't, but it sucks to have to be promoting the multinational big corporate company brand (whatever that may be) 24/7.  They are some of the most corrupt, two-faced assholes I've ever known.  Sometimes you just want to be your own person with your own opinions and even have the freedom to make mistakes.  I'm not talking about tweeting like this lady did, but I was told I couldn't even be drinking at a bar if I was wearing the company logo.


She played this country like the harp from Hell!
 
2013-12-22 11:42:59 PM  

ZAZ: Any of you trying to analyze the tweet are putting way more thought into it than she did.


Other than the fact that it is a "tweet", I don't understand why anyone would take offense.
 
2013-12-22 11:59:49 PM  
Well she's getting to user those PR skills now,  issued an apology;
http://abcnews.go.com/International/justine-sacco-fired-tweet-aids-a fr ica-issues-apology/story?id=21301833

/I don't have AIDS so how was I supposed to know its offensive?
 
2013-12-23 12:01:21 AM  
And I should user my preview skills more betterly...
 
2013-12-23 12:12:53 AM  
Lapdance:

4. Everyone needs to Get a Life!


Yes.  This is all clearly it's  everyone'sfault.
 
2013-12-23 12:34:23 AM  

OgreMagi: Who's twitter account did she use?  If it was her personal account, it was none of her employer's business.  If it was the company account, yeah, that's a firing.


OgreMagi: Mugato: OgreMagi: You are suggesting that you should give up your right to free speech if your employer demands it.  Turn this around.  What if you were fired because you publicly supported gay rights, or abortion, or gun rights, or any number of other issues.  Depending on your location, each of those stances could cause "negative publicity".  And given how easy it is to get information on someone via the internet, your employer could be easily discovered.

Don't support her firing simply because you found her statement offensive.  That's how you end up losing rights.

How many times in the threads on this site alone has it been made clear free speech doesn't apply to privately owned companies? Is there some manner of interpretive dance that can make it clearer?

A corporation has no right to curtail your free speech except when you are on the job.  Outside of the workplace, your rights trump them.  If this woman was on the job (company travel?) when she made the statement, then they can fire her.  If she was on vacation, then things get a bit tricky.  Sure, most states are at will hire, but a company can still get in deep doo doo for firing someone exercising a civil right.


Everytime it is mentioned, her company is mentioned, it makes her company look bad, guilty by association. They really had to fire her before her actions caused the company lost revenue. I cannot fathom how anyone can defend this woman or Phil Robertson with the free speech umbrella, offensive racist and homophobic comments are not free speech, its bigotry and hatred. Hate speech is not free
 
2013-12-23 12:38:21 AM  

ongbok: FloydA: I still don't understand the point she was trying to make.  Does she actually think white people are immune?

Maybe so. There are people that believe that as long as you are white, have hetero sex with only white non IV drug users, that you can't get aids.

bigworld2000: How can someone who has gotten so far in the PR industry think that something like that could ever be okay?

Some people have the belief that they can do what they want without consequence. I'm pretty sure you have run across a person or two like this in your life.

GORDON: Good thing the internet tattled on her.  We all love watching a train wreck, don't we.

Stay classy.

She should have taken that advice before she sent that tweet out publicly.


I'm sorry that you have the Aids ongbok.  Rubber up people lest you end up like poor ongbok, the guy with aids.
 
2013-12-23 01:21:04 AM  

Phelon Hardtimes: ongbok: FloydA: I still don't understand the point she was trying to make.  Does she actually think white people are immune?

Maybe so. There are people that believe that as long as you are white, have hetero sex with only white non IV drug users, that you can't get aids.

bigworld2000: How can someone who has gotten so far in the PR industry think that something like that could ever be okay?

Some people have the belief that they can do what they want without consequence. I'm pretty sure you have run across a person or two like this in your life.

GORDON: Good thing the internet tattled on her.  We all love watching a train wreck, don't we.

Stay classy.

She should have taken that advice before she sent that tweet out publicly.

I'm sorry that you have the Aids ongbok.  Rubber up people lest you end up like poor ongbok, the guy with aids.


Well that is news to me. Guess your mother and your sisters have it also then, sorry.
 
2013-12-23 02:31:02 AM  
She was born in South Africa, what a shock.
 
2013-12-23 03:43:25 AM  

Pumpernickel bread: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Eh, I hate to see someone fired over a tweet, but what she said was just so, so wrong. White women are a major target of rape in Africa, so she's definitely at risk for getting AIDS. I really don't know what she was thinking.

Heh, just shows there is a venue for tasteless humor, but a public twitter feed ain't it. Had she said the same thing here under a Fark handle, no one would have given it a second look


Sure they would have. At least three people would have posted "2/10" and/or "welcome to my ignore list".
 
2013-12-23 04:12:33 AM  
Maybe she thought F.W. Deklerk was going to be back in
power and she wanted to impress him..
 
2013-12-23 04:41:09 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: Johnson: Researcher: I'm not sure how far you can really climb in the PR game if you've caused drunken PR disasters.


She'll be back someplace else.  Her father is a SA billionaire.
How do you think she got this "job" that lets her flit about all over the world in the first place?
Now another rich person's kid can have that job.

That being said, she may have to change her name. Its kind of toxic now after all the PR exposure.

Well, if "Sacco" is now out, how about "Vanzetti"?

Or would that just be anarchy?


Bravo!!!
 
2013-12-23 05:51:02 AM  
The way I interpreted her Tweet, it was three separate disconnected statements. The first sentence, then the next two, then the last one. So I was confused as to why she wanted to get AIDS and why she said she was white when I could already see her picture, though maybe "I'm white!" could be some kind of white power slogan or something.
 
2013-12-23 06:45:52 AM  
I think she's hot.

She can have a job for me anytime. In my pants!
 
2013-12-23 06:59:34 AM  
If she's salaried she's very rarely "off the clock", if ever.  It doesn't matter what account she was using.
 
2013-12-23 01:04:48 PM  
Sounds like she was not very qualified for such a job.
 
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