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2013-12-22 06:46:45 PM  

aerojockey: I'd hit it.

/and won't get AIDS, yay


Well, maybe the traditional way. Unprotected sex here in the good ole US of A!!!
 
2013-12-22 06:48:47 PM  

Lsherm: catmandu: In another article Link her father even called her an idiot. On the other hand, the article goes on to explain that the father left South Africa for the US at the end of apartheid because he was afraid it was going to turn into "a s***hole" and "become racist".

That apple definitely did not fall far from the tree.

It's not a shiathole, but haven't they had a hard time converting the economy over to something that works for everyone?


True, but he wanted out because whites would no longer be in charge
 
2013-12-22 06:55:10 PM  
How not to get aids (gender neutral)

Q: "Hey hon, is it okay to fark you in the ass/vagina/skull without a condom"?
A: No.

Q: I have some really awesome (fill in the blank here), but I only have one needle. Wanna share?
A: No.

See? Nanacy Reagan was right. Just say no!
 
2013-12-22 06:56:58 PM  
And that is why we have Unions.
 
2013-12-22 06:58:04 PM  
as much as it was a stupid thing to write, I think less of the people who are actually spending their time reading the ramblings of idiots.
 
2013-12-22 07:00:01 PM  
Who's twitter account did she use?  If it was her personal account, it was none of her employer's business.  If it was the company account, yeah, that's a firing.
 
2013-12-22 07:00:38 PM  

Your Hind Brain: See? Nanacy Reagan was right. Just say no!


But Nana was just a shill for Big Pharma.

neverpedia.com
 
2013-12-22 07:03:01 PM  
I'd give her AIDS.


If I had it.
 
2013-12-22 07:03:03 PM  

theBigBigEye: This is one of the reasons for me hating social media, along with the people who use it.

Social media, just simply by its very nature....

...and the people who are too unbe-farking-leiveably stupid to be self-conscious about its nature.


More like ANTIsocial media, amirite?
 
2013-12-22 07:04:20 PM  

Hamilstan: Johnson:  She'll be back someplace else.  Her father is a SA billionaire.


Nope. That billionaire has two kids, both sons.


OMG. So now she's a man too?
The gift that keeps on giving...
 
2013-12-22 07:07:12 PM  
Let's burn her but defend Duck Dynasty.
 
2013-12-22 07:11:33 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Eh, I hate to see someone fired over a tweet, but what she said was just so, so wrong. White women are a major target of rape in Africa, so she's definitely at risk for getting AIDS. I really don't know what she was thinking.


See, someone in the travel department didn't brief her. THAT's who should have been fired.
 
2013-12-22 07:17:24 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Eh, I hate to see someone fired over a tweet, but what she said was just so, so wrong. White women are a major target of rape in Africa, so she's definitely at risk for getting AIDS. I really don't know what she was thinking.

Heh, just shows there is a venue for tasteless humor, but a public twitter feed ain't it. Had she said the same thing here under a Fark handle, no one would have given it a second look


But, the entitled twatwaffle happened to do it under her personal handle, all public and shiat, identifying her employee status.

As a digital media PR executive, her meteoric descent - OF HER OWN ACCORD - was spectacular to watch.  Given her other tweets that have surfaced in the past couple of days, my guess is she had more than a few 'frenemies' who pounced on this.  Her cataclysmic ignorance of the social media climate in the midst of the Phil Robertson chatter, her obvious lack of self/social awareness, and her position as (presumably) a freakishly overpriced executive, these all created a perfect storm for her to set herself up as a massive target.

She got exactly what she deserved, and her AW tendencies unwittingly threw her, front and center, into the lion's den of her own demise.

I just hope that media/sociology teachers use this as a case study to teach kids that social media can be a social death sentence, and use your damned head if you're going to use the Internet!
 
2013-12-22 07:20:13 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: Your Hind Brain: See? Nanacy Reagan was right. Just say no!

But Nana was just a shill for Big Pharma.

[neverpedia.com image 250x228]


Nana was part of an inter-dimensional galactic society. Never question her policies. The astrologists said so.
 
2013-12-22 07:23:08 PM  

Witness99: megarian: Quantum Apostrophe: You should be able to time out apps if you know you're going to drink. I'll be a millionaire.

Text message/social media breathalyzer app.

Or at least have it automatically tag the expression with "Written while Intoxicated."  Kind of like "Sent from my iPhone."


I wish Fark had implemented the drunk flagging option they were considering. But Drew thought people would leave it on forever.
 
2013-12-22 07:26:57 PM  

Zarquon's Flat Tire: Witness99: megarian: Quantum Apostrophe: You should be able to time out apps if you know you're going to drink. I'll be a millionaire.

Text message/social media breathalyzer app.

Or at least have it automatically tag the expression with "Written while Intoxicated."  Kind of like "Sent from my iPhone."

I wish Fark had implemented the drunk flagging option they were considering. But Drew thought people would leave it on forever.


It's better this way. You won't actually hurt people....except the ITG political types that invite you to their state to have a "discussion".
 
2013-12-22 07:30:25 PM  
Going to Africa!
Hope I don't eat da poopoo!
 
2013-12-22 07:42:18 PM  
What shall we do with a drunken Tweeter
What shall we do with a drunken Tweeter
What shall we do with a drunken Tweeter
Early in the morning.

Be a buddy and take her iPhone
Be a buddy and take her iPhone
Be a buddy and take her iPhone
Early in the morning
 
2013-12-22 07:53:18 PM  
i759.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-22 07:53:58 PM  
Could the fact that she is blonde have anything to do with her situation?  Many folks believe blondes are predetermined to this sort of intellectual achievement.  But then I ask, what about the bottle blondes?  Does the peroxide that washes the brunette out of the hair also remove the intellectual achievements of the brunette at the same time?  Or is this all just brunette prejudice against blondes?
 
2013-12-22 07:58:24 PM  
As it should be.  If your public activities outside of work do not reflect an employers views or values, I see no problem with firing (or not hiring).
 
2013-12-22 08:00:46 PM  

phojo1946: Could the fact that she is blonde have anything to do with her situation?  Many folks believe blondes are predetermined to this sort of intellectual achievement.  But then I ask, what about the bottle blondes?  Does the peroxide that washes the brunette out of the hair also remove the intellectual achievements of the brunette at the same time?  Or is this all just brunette prejudice against blondes?



I think natural blondes are of normal intelligence, but dumb people tend to bleach their hair in an attempt to be more attractive.

Admittedly, it's just a theory, but my sister is blonde and pretty smart, so I have a data point of one.
 
2013-12-22 08:04:13 PM  

OgreMagi: Who's twitter account did she use?  If it was her personal account, it was none of her employer's business.  If it was the company account, yeah, that's a firing.


So it is none of the companies business if you say something in public that can come back to make the company look bad or your boss finds offensive?
 
2013-12-22 08:13:14 PM  

ongbok: OgreMagi: Who's twitter account did she use?  If it was her personal account, it was none of her employer's business.  If it was the company account, yeah, that's a firing.

So it is none of the companies business if you say something in public that can come back to make the company look bad or your boss finds offensive?


When her 'personal' account specifically self-identifies her as 'CorpComm' at IAC, she lost any hope she'd had for getting out of this without potentially damaging her employer's reputation.
 
2013-12-22 08:37:27 PM  
I'd hate to think I was so useless at work that one tweet killed my career. Can you get insurance for that?
 
2013-12-22 08:48:26 PM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: As it should be.  If your public activities outside of work do not reflect an employers views or values, I see no problem with firing (or not hiring).


Agreed.

I fired one that wore an Obama campaign button to clients.

But maybe it was for some other reason I can't remember right now.
 
2013-12-22 08:59:14 PM  
Another 90 IQ BA in marketing who started off as a booth bunny and thought posting stuff to social media somehow meant she had career skills.

Next.
 
2013-12-22 09:05:59 PM  

Researcher: Seconded.

Also, I don't think her getting canned was ever in doubt.

She might want to consider another career, or less alcoholism. Or both. Probably both. I'm not sure how far you can really climb in the PR game if you've caused drunken PR disasters.

Still, who knows, maybe stormfront needs a PR rep. She is, as she pointed out, white.


Maybe she could get a job as Rob Ford's press secretary?  She seems qualified!
 
2013-12-22 09:11:44 PM  

ongbok: OgreMagi: Who's twitter account did she use?  If it was her personal account, it was none of her employer's business.  If it was the company account, yeah, that's a firing.

So it is none of the companies business if you say something in public that can come back to make the company look bad or your boss finds offensive?


You are suggesting that you should give up your right to free speech if your employer demands it.  Turn this around.  What if you were fired because you publicly supported gay rights, or abortion, or gun rights, or any number of other issues.  Depending on your location, each of those stances could cause "negative publicity".  And given how easy it is to get information on someone via the internet, your employer could be easily discovered.

Don't support her firing simply because you found her statement offensive.  That's how you end up losing rights.
 
2013-12-22 09:15:12 PM  

OgreMagi: ongbok: OgreMagi: Who's twitter account did she use?  If it was her personal account, it was none of her employer's business.  If it was the company account, yeah, that's a firing.

So it is none of the companies business if you say something in public that can come back to make the company look bad or your boss finds offensive?

You are suggesting that you should give up your right to free speech if your employer demands it.  Turn this around.  What if you were fired because you publicly supported gay rights, or abortion, or gun rights, or any number of other issues.  Depending on your location, each of those stances could cause "negative publicity".  And given how easy it is to get information on someone via the internet, your employer could be easily discovered.

Don't support her firing simply because you found her statement offensive.  That's how you end up losing rights.


Except holding a job from a private company is not a right,   and in most states employment is "at will".  (With the exemptions of a very few things they're not allowed to fire you for).    Being a demonstrated idiot whose actions have drawn a bunch of negative attention upon herself,   with her being identified as your employee,   is not a protected class.

Or are you saying a private company shouldn't have the right to fire someone for being an idiot?
 
2013-12-22 09:15:29 PM  

OgreMagi: You are suggesting that you should give up your right to free speech if your employer demands it.  Turn this around.  What if you were fired because you publicly supported gay rights, or abortion, or gun rights, or any number of other issues.  Depending on your location, each of those stances could cause "negative publicity".  And given how easy it is to get information on someone via the internet, your employer could be easily discovered.

Don't support her firing simply because you found her statement offensive.  That's how you end up losing rights.


How many times in the threads on this site alone has it been made clear free speech doesn't apply to privately owned companies? Is there some manner of interpretive dance that can make it clearer?
 
2013-12-22 09:21:06 PM  

BeatrixK: Pumpernickel bread: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Eh, I hate to see someone fired over a tweet, but what she said was just so, so wrong. White women are a major target of rape in Africa, so she's definitely at risk for getting AIDS. I really don't know what she was thinking.

Heh, just shows there is a venue for tasteless humor, but a public twitter feed ain't it. Had she said the same thing here under a Fark handle, no one would have given it a second look

But, the entitled twatwaffle happened to do it under her personal handle, all public and shiat, identifying her employee status.

As a digital media PR executive, her meteoric descent - OF HER OWN ACCORD - was spectacular to watch.  Given her other tweets that have surfaced in the past couple of days, my guess is she had more than a few 'frenemies' who pounced on this.  Her cataclysmic ignorance of the social media climate in the midst of the Phil Robertson chatter, her obvious lack of self/social awareness, and her position as (presumably) a freakishly overpriced executive, these all created a perfect storm for her to set herself up as a massive target.

She got exactly what she deserved, and her AW tendencies unwittingly threw her, front and center, into the lion's den of her own demise.

I just hope that media/sociology teachers use this as a case study to teach kids that social media can be a social death sentence, and use your damned head if you're going to use the Internet!


That was some beautiful writing ....
 
2013-12-22 09:23:03 PM  

OgreMagi: ongbok: OgreMagi: Who's twitter account did she use?  If it was her personal account, it was none of her employer's business.  If it was the company account, yeah, that's a firing.

So it is none of the companies business if you say something in public that can come back to make the company look bad or your boss finds offensive?

You are suggesting that you should give up your right to free speech if your employer demands it.  Turn this around.  What if you were fired because you publicly supported gay rights, or abortion, or gun rights, or any number of other issues.  Depending on your location, each of those stances could cause "negative publicity".  And given how easy it is to get information on someone via the internet, your employer could be easily discovered.

Don't support her firing simply because you found her statement offensive.  That's how you end up losing rights.


I fully support her firing, because she's an idiotic twat who, in the course of her job, is supposed to assist/direct the public perception of clients if IAC.

Now, in her role, as a the head of the PR department, it's HER advice and counsel that clients are paying IAC to help them promote, via advertising, promotion, and social media.  If this dumb bag of hair is so careless with her very own personal branding, then her judgment towards that of the clients, AND the people she manages, is questionable.

IAC was correct in firing her because, if she can't even be counted on to take the minimal amount of care on her personal branding, then IAC's clients have right to worry that her carelessness - and the example she sets for those underneath her - could put their brands in jeopardy.  Also, this same carelessness could impact IAC in a breach of contract if she was so mindless with their clients' promotion or public branding.

Having gotten a degree in PR, I have worked a PR crisis or two back when I worked in it full time.  This is 101 stuff, and just mind-bogglingly stupid.
 
2013-12-22 09:24:00 PM  

Mugato: OgreMagi: You are suggesting that you should give up your right to free speech if your employer demands it.  Turn this around.  What if you were fired because you publicly supported gay rights, or abortion, or gun rights, or any number of other issues.  Depending on your location, each of those stances could cause "negative publicity".  And given how easy it is to get information on someone via the internet, your employer could be easily discovered.

Don't support her firing simply because you found her statement offensive.  That's how you end up losing rights.

How many times in the threads on this site alone has it been made clear free speech doesn't apply to privately owned companies? Is there some manner of interpretive dance that can make it clearer?


A corporation has no right to curtail your free speech except when you are on the job.  Outside of the workplace, your rights trump them.  If this woman was on the job (company travel?) when she made the statement, then they can fire her.  If she was on vacation, then things get a bit tricky.  Sure, most states are at will hire, but a company can still get in deep doo doo for firing someone exercising a civil right.
 
2013-12-22 09:27:44 PM  

OgreMagi: A corporation has no right to curtail your free speech except when you are on the job.  Outside of the workplace, your rights trump them


Where did you get that?

/doesn't think the girl deserved to be fired
//her boss had every right to fire her
///sounds like she had a bullshiat job in the first place
 
2013-12-22 09:28:15 PM  
OgreMagi:

A corporation has no right to curtail your free speech except when you are on the job.  Outside of the workplace, your rights trump them.  If this woman was on the job (company travel?) when she made the statement, then they can fire her.  If she was on vacation, then things get a bit tricky.  Sure, most states are at will hire, but a company can still get in deep doo doo for firing someone exercising a civil right.

I'd simply love to see this person file a wrongful termination suit....it'd be nice to see her having to pay court costs to the company in addition to her loss of job.

Again, being an idiot who brings bad press to your company (When you're job is press, no less),   is not protected.
 
2013-12-22 09:41:33 PM  

Mugato: How many times in the threads on this site alone has it been made clear free speech doesn't apply to privately owned companies? Is there some manner of interpretive dance that can make it clearer?


OgreMagi is right.  But I'm slowing but I'm slowly gaining admiration for your creative dismantling of labor laws.

I can't fire you because you're a minority......but attend a pro-minority political rally and hey, my customers don't like that.  You're fired.

I can't fire you for being gay (in some places)........but come out of the closet and hey, my customers don't like that.  You're fired.

Atheist?  Well, my customers are mostly believers.  Fired.

In fact, if you don't go to the same church and support the same things I do, my customers might get suspicious and that could hurt business.  Fired.

You free speech right is totally intact.  At no point is the government silencing you.  It's just a private employer thing and if your private conduct hurts my business......
 
2013-12-22 09:42:34 PM  
Has it been 22.3 years?
 
2013-12-22 09:49:50 PM  
cdn-s3.thewrap.com

Please note under her name:  'Corpcomms at IAC'  It certainly appears that the tweets she's firing off have an association with IAC.
 
2013-12-22 09:56:44 PM  

cchris_39: Mugato: How many times in the threads on this site alone has it been made clear free speech doesn't apply to privately owned companies? Is there some manner of interpretive dance that can make it clearer?

OgreMagi is right.  But I'm slowing but I'm slowly gaining admiration for your creative dismantling of labor laws.

I can't fire you because you're a minority......but attend a pro-minority political rally and hey, my customers don't like that.  You're fired.

I can't fire you for being gay (in some places)........but come out of the closet and hey, my customers don't like that.  You're fired.

Atheist?  Well, my customers are mostly believers.  Fired.

In fact, if you don't go to the same church and support the same things I do, my customers might get suspicious and that could hurt business.  Fired.

You free speech right is totally intact.  At no point is the government silencing you.  It's just a private employer thing and if your private conduct hurts my business......


Shes a PR person who directly caused bad PR, of course she's getting fired. If all of your 'analogies' involved the klan as the employer, I'd think that person would be fired too.

Are you a black hole? Cause you're super dense.
 
2013-12-22 09:58:18 PM  

cchris_39: You free speech right is totally intact.  At no point is the government silencing you.  It's just a private employer thing and if your private conduct hurts my business......


So we see eye to eye.
 
2013-12-22 10:01:47 PM  
My last contract had something to the effect of "won't engage in behavior that hurts the company's brand", and I also received training that this applied on and off the clock (ha, as if I was ever off the clock).  You really do start to feel owned and to an extent, you are.  I should have been an entrepreneur.
 
2013-12-22 10:16:56 PM  

Witness99: I should have been an entrepreneur.


You can't say stupid racist things without consequences when you're an entrepreneur, either.
 
2013-12-22 10:26:56 PM  

OgreMagi: A corporation has no right to curtail your free speech except when you are on the job. Outside of the workplace, your rights trump them.


Being an idiot is not a protected class. Your employer can fire you for any reason under the sun, as long as it doesn't violate state/federal mandates.
 
2013-12-22 10:27:28 PM  
Looks like her indiegogo page got sacked as well.
 
2013-12-22 10:40:16 PM  

whatshisname: Witness99: I should have been an entrepreneur.

You can't say stupid racist things without consequences when you're an entrepreneur, either.


I agree, and I don't, but it sucks to have to be promoting the multinational big corporate company brand (whatever that may be) 24/7.  They are some of the most corrupt, two-faced assholes I've ever known.  Sometimes you just want to be your own person with your own opinions and even have the freedom to make mistakes.  I'm not talking about tweeting like this lady did, but I was told I couldn't even be drinking at a bar if I was wearing the company logo.
 
2013-12-22 11:22:58 PM  

Witness99: whatshisname: Witness99: I should have been an entrepreneur.

You can't say stupid racist things without consequences when you're an entrepreneur, either.

I agree, and I don't, but it sucks to have to be promoting the multinational big corporate company brand (whatever that may be) 24/7.  They are some of the most corrupt, two-faced assholes I've ever known.  Sometimes you just want to be your own person with your own opinions and even have the freedom to make mistakes.  I'm not talking about tweeting like this lady did, but I was told I couldn't even be drinking at a bar if I was wearing the company logo.


All part of the almighty capitalist plan, I guess. I run my own business and we still have to worry about what clients will think and we work for some of those big corporations who have massive non-disclosure agreements and vague contracts filled with weasel words that are designed solely for their benefit. And sometimes you just have to hold your nose and sign them.
 
2013-12-22 11:33:23 PM  

piccolo: I wonder how much was donated to AIDS charities resulted?

I think what she said was incredibly stupid and horrible, but am interested to know the extent of the impact - beyond (legit) outrage and into outrage fueled altruism. Difficult to measure, but not impossible.


Mike Milken the junk bond king did more to end human suffering than all the anti apartheid/hands across America/farm aid do-gooders of the 80s put together
 
2013-12-22 11:34:03 PM  
1. It's bad enough to just write stuff on Forums like these and such. It's just that This kind of thing Irks me!

2. Get OFF the Damn Phone! If you spend all day calling people and texting and sticking your Babble on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Pinterest or any of those Garbage repositories, you have Issues!

3. No one gives a Rat's Ass about all this Moronic Dribble and if someone Does, They have Issues too!

4. Everyone needs to Get a Life!
 
2013-12-22 11:35:48 PM  

Snarfangel: What shall we do with a drunken Tweeter
What shall we do with a drunken Tweeter
What shall we do with a drunken Tweeter
Early in the morning.

Be a buddy and take her iPhone
Be a buddy and take her iPhone
Be a buddy and take her iPhone
Early in the morning


Turn off the phone it's time to bone said Barnacle Bill the Sailor
 
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