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(Gawker)   CIA kills FARC leaders, moderators on alert   (gawker.com) divider line 63
    More: Sad, FARC, CIA, Government of Colombia, FARC leaders, Internet forum, Dana Priest, targeted killings, Colombian  
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2013-12-22 01:28:20 PM  
FTFA: The U.S. determined then that if a country was harboring someone it perceived as a terrorist, and making no attempts to arrest them, then the U.S. has the go-ahead to assassinate them wherever they may be. In 2008, it was FARC leader Raul Reyes in Ecuador. In 2011, it was Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan.

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2013-12-22 02:00:36 PM  

hardinparamedic: FTFA: The U.S. determined then that if a country was harboring someone it perceived as a terrorist, and making no attempts to arrest them, then the U.S. has the go-ahead to assassinate them wherever they may be. In 2008, it was FARC leader Raul Reyes in Ecuador. In 2011, it was Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan.

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American foreign policy can be summed up thusly:

Good? Bad? I'm the guy with the gun.

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2013-12-22 02:09:34 PM  

unyon: American foreign policy can be summed up thusly:


Could be worse. We could have kept going as we did in the Cold War and turned into this guy:

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I think he found the WMDs in Iraq and spoke before congress in 2001.
 
2013-12-22 02:27:38 PM  
In the real world, some people just need to be juridically killed, and the Outragers will just have to deal with it.
 
2013-12-22 03:08:13 PM  
FARC them.
 
2013-12-22 03:19:22 PM  
Guess that labor dispute is more serious than we thought
 
2013-12-22 04:06:26 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Guess that labor dispute is more serious than we thought


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2013-12-22 04:51:58 PM  
But in all seriousness:

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2013-12-22 04:53:22 PM  
So my takeaway from this is that Drew's dead and the five dollars went to fund terrorists?

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Perhaps I should read the article.
 
2013-12-22 04:55:29 PM  
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2013-12-22 04:57:36 PM  
My entry into the "What if FARK and FARC got confused" photoshop eons ago....
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2013-12-22 04:58:21 PM  
Tom Clancy scares me.
 
2013-12-22 04:59:02 PM  
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2013-12-22 05:01:25 PM  
FARC, which the U.S. believes to be a terrorist organization.


I'm not surprised, 77% of American believe in angels.
 
2013-12-22 05:04:10 PM  

LewDux: FARC, which the U.S. believes to be a terrorist organization.


I'm not surprised, 77% of American believe in angels.


And, the other 23% in Obamacare.
 
2013-12-22 05:05:06 PM  

Agent Smiths Laugh: So my takeaway from this is that Drew's dead and the five dollars went to fund terrorists?

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Perhaps I should read the article.


OK, I'm still laughing.
 
2013-12-22 05:11:48 PM  
The great thing about Gawker is that I can read an inferior and less informative version of my favorite articles!
 
2013-12-22 05:16:02 PM  
But how are our favorite Memes? Is the big nut squirrel OK?
 
2013-12-22 05:16:51 PM  
That'll teach 'em not to greenlight my submissions...
 
2013-12-22 05:20:31 PM  
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2013-12-22 05:21:53 PM  

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Tom Clancy is not a foreign policy blueprint for the government to follow

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2013-12-22 05:29:52 PM  
Old news is old and musty.
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2013-12-22 05:30:05 PM  

uttertosh: LewDux: FARC, which the U.S. believes to be a terrorist organization.


I'm not surprised, 77% of American believe in angels.

And, the other 23% in Obamacare.


Ok ... That made me lmao. Good job.

Sorry... I have to get radical now. If somebody wants to mess with the basic freedom of people to live their life as they see fit without infringing on the rights of
 
2013-12-22 05:33:42 PM  
(Continued.... Damn snow storm) ... The rights of others? I'm ok with the US, or any other technologically advanced country playing "world police."

... As long as we can keep the fun dies out of control in our government, of course
 
2013-12-22 05:34:41 PM  
missed by "k" that much.
 
2013-12-22 05:41:03 PM  

The Evil Home Brewer: (Continued.... Damn snow storm) ... The rights of others? I'm ok with the US, or any other technologically advanced country playing "world police."

... As long as we can keep the fun dies out of control in our government, of course


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                                                        AMERICA! F*CK YEAH!
 
2013-12-22 05:45:24 PM  
It's nice to see that we're taking out the baddies at FARC, and  paving the way for corporate control of all of Colombia's farmland.
 
2013-12-22 05:48:53 PM  

Raddamant: Tom Clancy scares me.


Try this guy then...
 
2013-12-22 05:53:30 PM  
If we are so sure of where they are, why not nab them instead? Would be far scarier for their remaining business partners. Or is it more acceptable to kill a person in a foreign country than to take them? I would think that the lesser if the violent acts would be preferred.
 
2013-12-22 05:56:19 PM  

MNguy: It's nice to see that we're taking out the baddies at FARC, and  paving the way for corporate control of all of Colombia's farmland.


"Sure, maybe some believe that they kidnap and kill people, but they have slogans I like"
 
2013-12-22 05:59:52 PM  
unyon [TotalFark]
American foreign policy can be summed up thusly:

Good? Bad? I'm the guy with the gun.

How's that hope and change working for you?
 
2013-12-22 06:02:56 PM  

gozar_the_destroyer: If we are so sure of where they are, why not nab them instead? Would be far scarier for their remaining business partners. Or is it more acceptable to kill a person in a foreign country than to take them? I would think that the lesser if the violent acts would be preferred.


It's a lot easier to send in a small hit team, or even one sniper, to kill a person and leave the body where it lies; than it is to coordinate the kidnapping and extraction of a live target. In the case of an assassination, once the target is dead, all you have to do is get your assassin out of the country (and maybe not even that if he's a local asset or dies in the attempt); with a kidnapping, you have to get your whole team, plus the target, out of the country; bearing in mind that your target is a citizen of the country and your agents have just committed a serious or possibly even capital crime. And if your target is an official, it could even be an international incident.

The logistics are just staggering--for a great example, I recommend "The House on Garibaldi Street" by Isser Harel, about how they took Eichmann out of Argentina. It would have been much simpler if Harel's team had just shot him in the road.
 
2013-12-22 06:10:05 PM  
I didn't realize there were so many supporters of FARC on Fark.

These are not exactly nice people who really want to help out the poor folks of Columbia.
 
2013-12-22 06:10:47 PM  

LewDux: FARC, which the U.S. believes to be a terrorist organization.


I'm not surprised, 77% of American believe in angels.


And enough voted for Obama to make him President.
 
2013-12-22 06:15:19 PM  
Perhaps they should have offered them TOTALFARC.
 
2013-12-22 06:25:27 PM  

WTF Indeed: In the real world, some people just need to be juridically killed, and the Outragers will just have to deal with it.


Hoping it's your turn some day
 
2013-12-22 06:29:41 PM  
So it's okay if other countries assassinate people living in the USA, right? I mean if the country says that the person is a terrorist and a threat to them, right?

So like... say some Iranian secret agent assassinates Salman Rushdie because the Iranian government has listed him as a threat to their country... the USA can just shrug their shoulders and say, "Ah well. It's none of our business. Iran's government says he's a threat so obviously he needed to be killed."

Or say China assassinates some US defector living in exile because they decided they were a threat to their country. I guess the US Government just says, "Well China says they had the moral responsibility to kill them because we refused to. I guess they got us there. Oh well. Moving on."
 
2013-12-22 06:36:24 PM  

Weatherkiss: So it's okay if other countries assassinate people living in the USA, right? I mean if the country says that the person is a terrorist and a threat to them, right?

So like... say some Iranian secret agent assassinates Salman Rushdie because the Iranian government has listed him as a threat to their country... the USA can just shrug their shoulders and say, "Ah well. It's none of our business. Iran's government says he's a threat so obviously he needed to be killed."

Or say China assassinates some US defector living in exile because they decided they were a threat to their country. I guess the US Government just says, "Well China says they had the moral responsibility to kill them because we refused to. I guess they got us there. Oh well. Moving on."


Depends, did we ask for their help?
 
2013-12-22 06:43:39 PM  
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2013-12-22 06:48:27 PM  

Weatherkiss: So it's okay if other countries assassinate people living in the USA, right? I mean if the country says that the person is a terrorist and a threat to them, right?

So like... say some Iranian secret agent assassinates Salman Rushdie because the Iranian government has listed him as a threat to their country... the USA can just shrug their shoulders and say, "Ah well. It's none of our business. Iran's government says he's a threat so obviously he needed to be killed."

Or say China assassinates some US defector living in exile because they decided they were a threat to their country. I guess the US Government just says, "Well China says they had the moral responsibility to kill them because we refused to. I guess they got us there. Oh well. Moving on."


The Colombian government asked for US help.

Truthfully, the Colombian government could have trounced the rebels years ago, but there are too entrenched with the coca money trail to Colombian politicians.

As a Colombian, I do not care who kills them, as long as they kill them.

I am grateful that I can drive a car to most parts of the country without the fear of getting kidnapped or meander down the street in Bogota without having to see cars blow up.

The US government does a lot of horrific shiat, but helping quash a 50 year old civil war is quite the good thing.

I was grabbed by Farc and held for two hours 13 years ago, and was able to talk my way out of by the skin of my teeth.  When was the last time you were on your knees with an assault rifle pointed at your head?
 
2013-12-22 06:49:24 PM  

Gyrfalcon: It would have been much simpler if Harel's team had just shot him in the road.


Some folks can survive a road wound. Better to shoot him in the head.
 
2013-12-22 06:51:12 PM  
LewDux:

"Sure, maybe some believe that they kidnap and kill people, but they have slogans I like"

"I'm an ignoramus so I'll just put quotes around what I think other people must think, because I can't formulate a thought on my own."
 
2013-12-22 06:54:45 PM  
theflatline:

The Colombian government asked for US help.

Truthfully, the Colombian government could have trounced the rebels years ago, but there are too entrenched with the coca money trail to Colombian politicians.

As a Colombian, I do not care who kills them, as long as they kill them.

I am grateful that I can drive a car to most parts of the country without the fear of getting kidnapped or meander down the street in Bogota without having to see cars blow up.

The US government does a lot of horrific shiat, but helping quash a 50 year old civil war is quite the good thing.

I was grabbed by Farc and held for two hours 13 years ago, and was able to talk my way out of by the skin of my teeth.  When was the last time you were on your knees with an assault rifle pointed at your head?


Most Colombian people don't really want the police walking around wearing US army second-hand gear.

Remember the politician who was kidnapped a few years back?  There are plenty of areas in Colombia where people do live in a lot of fear.  It's also because of the narcos and paras and all the assorted assholes in the jungle.

I've never been kidnapped by FARC, but I did teach a few lefties some English.
 
2013-12-22 06:57:59 PM  

MNguy: "I'm an ignoramus so I'll just put quotes around what I think other people must think, because I can't formulate a thought on my own."


When you're white knighting a group which is well known for rape, murder, kidnapping, and child soldier use, it doesn't take a leap of thought to think you're OK with it.
 
2013-12-22 06:59:58 PM  

MNguy: LewDux:

"Sure, maybe some believe that they kidnap and kill people, but they have slogans I like"

"I'm an ignoramus so I'll just put quotes around what I think other people must think, because I can't formulate a thought on my own."


"Oh, Snap!"
 
2013-12-22 07:11:42 PM  

hardinparamedic: MNguy: "I'm an ignoramus so I'll just put quotes around what I think other people must think, because I can't formulate a thought on my own."

When you're white knighting a group which is well known for rape, murder, kidnapping, and child soldier use, it doesn't take a leap of thought to think you're OK with it.


Who was I white-knighting, and where?
 
2013-12-22 07:24:28 PM  

SirEattonHogg: I didn't realize there were so many supporters of FARC on Fark.

These are not exactly nice people who really want to help out the poor folks of Columbia.


They have "revolutionary" in the title and their enemy has Uncle Sam's backing.  Both of those things prove that they're heroes and angels who can do no wrong.  I'm certainly no fan of US foreign policy, especially in Latin America, but the lawful government seems to be the least evil of the players in Colombia.
 
2013-12-22 07:36:36 PM  
They came out saying they wanted to end the drug war.

/signed their own death warrants.
 
2013-12-22 07:41:50 PM  
This was supposed to be a secret?

US SOCOM has been killing south american "drug lords" for "in the field" recon/combat practice for a very, very long time.   Or at least, we used to do it a lot before we had Afghanistan to romp around in.
 
2013-12-22 07:45:46 PM  
We practice selective annihilation of mayors and government officials, for example, to create a vacuum, then we fill that vacuum. As popular war advances, peace is closer.
 
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