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(Sportige)   Only the mighty Mike Leach and his excellent clock management and play calling made it possible for Colorado State to win their first bowl game in five years   (sportige.com) divider line 37
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2013-12-22 01:04:39 PM  
Mike Leach didn't fumble the ball.
 
2013-12-22 01:56:18 PM  
One trick pony is still one trick
 
2013-12-22 02:23:36 PM  
Coug'd it.
 
2013-12-22 02:35:51 PM  
I like WSU...the Cougs fumbled it on the previous play, escaped because it turned out he was down, then the RB fumbled it on the next play. They had to work at it to lose, but they were willing to do whatever it took.

Just a sh*tty, sh*tty way to be an Eastern Washingtonian - EWU rallies from a 21-7 halftime deficit to go up 31-21 in the 4th and ends up losing 35-31, and when you're thinking "well, at least the Cougs are up 8 in basically the same position as EWU was with 2 minutes left (EWU was up 3 with the ball) so it'll be harder for them to blow this...boom.

At least I wasn't able to watch the EWU game and only caught a few minutes of the Cougs game during lunch.
 
2013-12-22 02:38:04 PM  
MIke Leach coaches about as well as the author of TFA writes.  Holy crap was that a hot mess of a game description.
 
2013-12-22 02:40:10 PM  
And yet I read another stupid Sportige article.

Yes, the field goal before the end of the half was clearly a huge deal...not WSU fumbling the ball three times (two of which stood) in the final three minutes of the game. If he hadn't given up the FG then, WSU would've found a way to give up a TD at the end. That's how Cougs roll.
 
2013-12-22 02:48:34 PM  
Well,that was a really poorly written article.
 
2013-12-22 03:01:08 PM  

twistedmetal: Mike Leach didn't fumble the ball.


I knew old Texas Tech people would blame him, blame the butter fingers who fumbled the ball 3 times in less than 3 mins.
 
2013-12-22 03:10:19 PM  

Biff_Steel: Well,that was a really poorly written article.


Can someone explain what this means?

"In the fourth quarter, Colorado State manage to bring the game back down to 15 points after the Cougars kept a safe distance."
 
2013-12-22 03:11:34 PM  
Read a different article about the game. That was some shiatty coaching by Leach. When the other team has no time outs near the end of a game your team is leading, why in the hell would you do anything else except keep the ball on the ground and milk the clock? I'm confused because he seems to be a good enough coach to get his team to a bowl game, yet his end game decisions were not good.
 
2013-12-22 03:14:12 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: MIke Leach coaches about as well as the author of TFA writes.  Holy crap was that a hot mess of a game description.


Funny it wasn't that long ago that WSU would be happy to finish .500 let alone be in a bowl game.

I find it funny all the hate he gets for turning around two programs, one an also ran doormat and the other just a nothing doormat.
 
2013-12-22 03:18:25 PM  

skinink: Read a different article about the game. That was some shiatty coaching by Leach. When the other team has no time outs near the end of a game your team is leading, why in the hell would you do anything else except keep the ball on the ground and milk the clock? I'm confused because he seems to be a good enough coach to get his team to a bowl game, yet his end game decisions were not good.


Did you watch the game or even the highlights? All the fumbles were on runs or a return, unless he personally greased up the RBs arms this isn't his fault.
 
2013-12-22 03:23:10 PM  
What the hell is this paragraph:

In the fourth quarter, Colorado State manage to bring the game back down to 15 points after the Cougars kept a safe distance. Halliday begins a drive with 2:52 left in the game on his own 18.Washington State advance 13 yards, before Jeremiah Laufasa is tackled by Shaquil Barrett and fumbles the ball. Colorado State recover, and get Kapri Gibbs into the end zone. They go for two, but fail to complete the conversion. However, the booth overturns the decisions on the field (rightfully so), tying the game at 45-45.

Colorado State is down 15, scores a touchdown, and ties it?
 
2013-12-22 03:35:10 PM  
I think it was the fat little girlfriends' fault.
 
2013-12-22 03:37:46 PM  

steamingpile: AdmirableSnackbar: MIke Leach coaches about as well as the author of TFA writes.  Holy crap was that a hot mess of a game description.

Funny it wasn't that long ago that WSU would be happy to finish .500 let alone be in a bowl game.

I find it funny all the hate he gets for turning around two programs, one an also ran doormat and the other just a nothing doormat.


Here's the problem, though. Mike Leach is far and away the most overrated coach alive. What his offense essentially does is elevate an average to below average & make them the King of The B Teams. He's had a ton of articles written about him bc he's wacky, enjoys pirates, has a law degree & is generally a pretty interesting guy. He's had lunch w/ Warren Buffet, pals around w/ Trump, and bc of all of these things, he seems to get a pass from the media.

But consider the following when he was at Texas Tech:

--Zero Big 12 Championships
--Zero Big 12 Championship game appearances
--Zero BCS bowl appearances
--A 5-14 record against Texas & OU
--After this loss to Colorado State, his bowl game record his 5-5.

Sorry, but absolutely nothing about Mike Leach screams that he is worthy of the praise he has received. Is he a good coach? Sure, l'll concede that, but to suggest this guy should be having lunch w/ a financial wizard & having the mass media kiss his butt based off of running a gimmick offense is a joke.
 
2013-12-22 03:39:06 PM  

steamingpile: AdmirableSnackbar: MIke Leach coaches about as well as the author of TFA writes.  Holy crap was that a hot mess of a game description.

Funny it wasn't that long ago that WSU would be happy to finish .500 let alone be in a bowl game.

I find it funny all the hate he gets for turning around two programs, one an also ran doormat and the other just a nothing doormat.


Leach makes those kinds of fans happy - they get to be in bowl contention every year.  Leach builds bowl contenders, not championship teams.  He's the kind of mediocre coach that terrible football programs like WSU seek out because at least they don't completely suck.  What hate does Leach get?  Refusing to buy into his ridiculous persona and expecting the results that generally accompany an enormous, out-of-control ego is not hate, it's simply giving him the respect he has earned.
 
2013-12-22 04:01:30 PM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: steamingpile: AdmirableSnackbar: MIke Leach coaches about as well as the author of TFA writes.  Holy crap was that a hot mess of a game description.

Funny it wasn't that long ago that WSU would be happy to finish .500 let alone be in a bowl game.

I find it funny all the hate he gets for turning around two programs, one an also ran doormat and the other just a nothing doormat.

Here's the problem, though. Mike Leach is far and away the most overrated coach alive. What his offense essentially does is elevate an average to below average & make them the King of The B Teams. He's had a ton of articles written about him bc he's wacky, enjoys pirates, has a law degree & is generally a pretty interesting guy. He's had lunch w/ Warren Buffet, pals around w/ Trump, and bc of all of these things, he seems to get a pass from the media.

But consider the following when he was at Texas Tech:

--Zero Big 12 Championships
--Zero Big 12 Championship game appearances
--Zero BCS bowl appearances
--A 5-14 record against Texas & OU
--After this loss to Colorado State, his bowl game record his 5-5.

Sorry, but absolutely nothing about Mike Leach screams that he is worthy of the praise he has received. Is he a good coach? Sure, l'll concede that, but to suggest this guy should be having lunch w/ a financial wizard & having the mass media kiss his butt based off of running a gimmick offense is a joke.


I'm sorry, but not even Pop Warner himself is going to do much better with Texas farking Tech in the Big 12.  Recruiting in conference as a podunk school against historic powerhouse teams(particularly when they're mostly good) just doesn't work.  UCLA and Cal have tried it for years and can't crack USC or Oregons recruiting, facilities, and coaching.
 
2013-12-22 04:12:52 PM  

bhcompy: Straight Outta Wells Branch: steamingpile: AdmirableSnackbar: MIke Leach coaches about as well as the author of TFA writes.  Holy crap was that a hot mess of a game description.

Funny it wasn't that long ago that WSU would be happy to finish .500 let alone be in a bowl game.

I find it funny all the hate he gets for turning around two programs, one an also ran doormat and the other just a nothing doormat.

Here's the problem, though. Mike Leach is far and away the most overrated coach alive. What his offense essentially does is elevate an average to below average & make them the King of The B Teams. He's had a ton of articles written about him bc he's wacky, enjoys pirates, has a law degree & is generally a pretty interesting guy. He's had lunch w/ Warren Buffet, pals around w/ Trump, and bc of all of these things, he seems to get a pass from the media.

But consider the following when he was at Texas Tech:

--Zero Big 12 Championships
--Zero Big 12 Championship game appearances
--Zero BCS bowl appearances
--A 5-14 record against Texas & OU
--After this loss to Colorado State, his bowl game record his 5-5.

Sorry, but absolutely nothing about Mike Leach screams that he is worthy of the praise he has received. Is he a good coach? Sure, l'll concede that, but to suggest this guy should be having lunch w/ a financial wizard & having the mass media kiss his butt based off of running a gimmick offense is a joke.

I'm sorry, but not even Pop Warner himself is going to do much better with Texas farking Tech in the Big 12.  Recruiting in conference as a podunk school against historic powerhouse teams(particularly when they're mostly good) just doesn't work.  UCLA and Cal have tried it for years and can't crack USC or Oregons recruiting, facilities, and coaching.


He had NFL caliber offensive players. Most notably hehad Wes Welker, who's a borderline HOFer & Michael Crabtree. Kingsbury was w/ the Patriots for a cup of coffee. He wasn't there for long, but hey, he was a Patriot.

Tech is a tougher sell, but it's not outright impossible. Hell, Baylor is a significantly more difficult sell if you're a big-time recruit & they seem to do alright these days.

And again, my point is that for the amount of praise, he has received over the years, you'd think the guy had accomplished a lot more than he has. We tend to think that when one says "overrated," we mean bad. Sometimes, overrated simply means just that. Mike Leach is good, but he's not "hanging out w/ Warren Buffet & having the media write fluff pieces about him" good.
 
2013-12-22 05:06:56 PM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: Tech is a tougher sell, but it's not outright impossible. Hell, Baylor is a significantly more difficult sell if you're a big-time recruit & they seem to do alright these days.


Tech was doing all right, too. They just happened to do it in up periods for Texas and OU.
 
2013-12-22 05:08:53 PM  

bhcompy: I'm sorry, but not even Pop Warner himself is going to do much better with Texas farking Tech in the Big 12. Recruiting in conference as a podunk school against historic powerhouse teams(particularly when they're mostly good) just doesn't work. UCLA and Cal have tried it for years and can't crack USC or Oregons recruiting, facilities, and coaching.


Yeah, but how long did it take Oregon to get where they are now?  UCLA's more of an historic powerhouse than Oregon, for that matter.


Straight Outta Wells Branch: Tech is a tougher sell, but it's not outright impossible. Hell, Baylor is a significantly more difficult sell if you're a big-time recruit & they seem to do alright these days.And again, my point is that for the amount of praise, he has received over the years, you'd think the guy had accomplished a lot more than he has. We tend to think that when one says "overrated," we mean bad. Sometimes, overrated simply means just that. Mike Leach is good, but he's not "hanging out w/ Warren Buffet & having the media write fluff pieces about him" good.


Well, hanging out with Warren Buffet is a reflection of his coaching acumen precisely not at all, but this is valid.  I think Scarface is an overrated movie, and I very much like it.
 
2013-12-22 05:11:51 PM  

ten foiled hats: Yeah, but how long did it take Oregon to get where they are now?  UCLA's more of an historic powerhouse than Oregon, for that matter.


Well, if someone wants to spend hundreds of millions making WSU a powerhouse, I'm sure Leach could have a pretty solid record with them.
 
2013-12-22 06:16:37 PM  

IAmRight: ten foiled hats: Yeah, but how long did it take Oregon to get where they are now?  UCLA's more of an historic powerhouse than Oregon, for that matter.

Well, if someone wants to spend hundreds of millions making WSU a powerhouse, I'm sure Leach could have a pretty solid record with them.


Or, say, Texas Tech.  Which was my point.
 
2013-12-22 08:02:21 PM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: steamingpile: AdmirableSnackbar: MIke Leach coaches about as well as the author of TFA writes.  Holy crap was that a hot mess of a game description.

Funny it wasn't that long ago that WSU would be happy to finish .500 let alone be in a bowl game.

I find it funny all the hate he gets for turning around two programs, one an also ran doormat and the other just a nothing doormat.

Here's the problem, though. Mike Leach is far and away the most overrated coach alive. What his offense essentially does is elevate an average to below average & make them the King of The B Teams. He's had a ton of articles written about him bc he's wacky, enjoys pirates, has a law degree & is generally a pretty interesting guy. He's had lunch w/ Warren Buffet, pals around w/ Trump, and bc of all of these things, he seems to get a pass from the media.

But consider the following when he was at Texas Tech:

--Zero Big 12 Championships
--Zero Big 12 Championship game appearances
--Zero BCS bowl appearances
--A 5-14 record against Texas & OU
--After this loss to Colorado State, his bowl game record his 5-5.

Sorry, but absolutely nothing about Mike Leach screams that he is worthy of the praise he has received. Is he a good coach? Sure, l'll concede that, but to suggest this guy should be having lunch w/ a financial wizard & having the mass media kiss his butt based off of running a gimmick offense is a joke.


So the fact he took perennial doormats into a team with an actual shot instead of just get their brains beat in every week means nothing to you people?

These are not elite programs at all WSU hasn't won shiat in a long damn time and was a laughingstock in CFB. Hell before Leach got to TT nobody outside of the big12 even knew who the fark they were.

You say he doesn't deserve praise and I say he deserves more credit than you want to give him.
 
2013-12-22 09:02:49 PM  

steamingpile: You say he doesn't deserve praise and I say he deserves more credit than you want to give him.


Yep.
 
2013-12-22 09:46:09 PM  
I wonder if they kept locks on the utility closets.
 
2013-12-22 10:27:34 PM  

twistedmetal: steamingpile: You say he doesn't deserve praise and I say he deserves more credit than you want to give him.

Yep.


Well you're wrong, we have two doormat teams he's raised out of shiat to back that up, what proof do you have that TT would have been where they are without him? They hadn't done shiat without the rest of the conference sucking since the 60s and have only had 9+ wins in a season 9 times, maybe you don't realize Leach is responsible for over half of those with 5 of the 9 win seasons. So in 40 years they had 4 of those 9+ win season, in 10 he managed 5, seems you underestimate his actual value in elevated the program. He's also responsible for 6 of their 13 bowl wins, 7 if you count the one in the season when he got railroaded by ESPN. He had the best record of any head coach since the 60s, he is responsible for over half of their bowl wins but offer zero proof as to why he's overrated.

It seems the administration did a good job at covering their fark up after shiat canning him and then got lucky the big12 sucked the past couple of years.
 
2013-12-23 12:13:12 AM  

steamingpile: skinink: Read a different article about the game. That was some shiatty coaching by Leach. When the other team has no time outs near the end of a game your team is leading, why in the hell would you do anything else except keep the ball on the ground and milk the clock? I'm confused because he seems to be a good enough coach to get his team to a bowl game, yet his end game decisions were not good.

Did you watch the game or even the highlights? All the fumbles were on runs or a return, unless he personally greased up the RBs arms this isn't his fault.


The stupidest part of that game was in the beginning when the announcers pointed out the easy outside passes the Cougs were throwing were their running equivalent.  Why they didn't just take a knee is known only to Leach.  Why the guy returning the last kick off didn't just fall down at the 15 like he had all night is known only to him.
 
2013-12-23 12:20:45 AM  
WSU could have kneeled down three times after getting the first down with 2.5 minutes left.

Leach farked it up.
 
2013-12-23 12:27:09 AM  

PowerSlacker: WSU could have kneeled down three times after getting the first down with 2.5 minutes left.

Leach farked it up.


With that much time left no coach will just take a knee unless its under a minute and a half, again I'm all for blaming coaches but this is a series of fluke occurrences out of his control. Blaming him for this would be like blaming Landry for 'The Catch' and that's just stupid since Dwight was the outlet that changed course.
 
2013-12-23 01:30:05 AM  

PowerSlacker: WSU could have kneeled down three times after getting the first down with 2.5 minutes left.

Leach farked it up.


WSU couldn't have ended the game at that point. That's the only time you start kneeling. Holy hell, that would've left more than a minute in college ball, where first downs temporarily stop the clock. Leach would have been a goddamn idiot to do that.
 
2013-12-23 01:36:06 AM  

IAmRight: PowerSlacker: WSU could have kneeled down three times after getting the first down with 2.5 minutes left.

Leach farked it up.

WSU couldn't have ended the game at that point. That's the only time you start kneeling. Holy hell, that would've left more than a minute in college ball, where first downs temporarily stop the clock. Leach would have been a goddamn idiot to do that.


The clock was stopped temporarily at 2:36 for the chains, CSU had zero timeouts.

After first down kneel, clock would have been at 2:06. (It was actually at 2:03 when the fumble was overturned)
After second down kneel, clock would have been at 1:26.
After third down kneel, clock would have been at 0:46.

Fourth down play:  Run backwards for six seconds out of the end zone.  Take a safety, game over.

You're even dumber than Mike Leach.
 
2013-12-23 01:59:29 AM  

PowerSlacker: IAmRight: PowerSlacker: WSU could have kneeled down three times after getting the first down with 2.5 minutes left.

Leach farked it up.

WSU couldn't have ended the game at that point. That's the only time you start kneeling. Holy hell, that would've left more than a minute in college ball, where first downs temporarily stop the clock. Leach would have been a goddamn idiot to do that.

The clock was stopped temporarily at 2:36 for the chains, CSU had zero timeouts.

After first down kneel, clock would have been at 2:06. (It was actually at 2:03 when the fumble was overturned)
After second down kneel, clock would have been at 1:26.
After third down kneel, clock would have been at 0:46.

Fourth down play:  Run backwards for six seconds out of the end zone.  Take a safety, game over.

You're even dumber than Mike Leach.


He played it safe and you're biatching, he did what every other coach would have done in that situation, pick up one first down and game over. If he had thrown the ball in those situations which he was known for doing at TT then you could biatch. He did what every other coach at major level programs would have done and no one except the coach at some shiat school like Boise would have run backwards for a safety and if somehow the guy got caught then fumbled you still would have biatched. WSU has a decent coach for a change at a program that was shiat for close to a decade, I fail to see what a fans problem would be since this kind of shiat should never happen normally.

If this is what UGA fans sound like biatching about a coach that turned your program around after sucking for a decade then I apologize. These people sound like whiney douches and biatching about nothing, enjoy your coach while he's winning and taking you to places you've been missing for years. You're at WSU for God's sake they had 9 wins the previous 4 years and the program was a shiat pile.
 
2013-12-23 03:01:35 AM  

PowerSlacker: Fourth down play:  Run backwards for six seconds out of the end zone.  Take a safety, game over.


You've clearly never watched the Cougs. Halliday would've found a way to fumble it for a CSU TD.

/I did forget that NCAA switched from 25 second clocks to 40 second clocks
//FFS the Cougs turned the ball over twice, allowed 11 plays to be run, and gave up a TD, 2P conversion, AND a FG. They're VERY good at losing.
 
2013-12-23 05:42:43 AM  
Go Rams!  New Mexico Bowl Champs biatches.  Sadly it is kind of a big deal.   I haven't really followed CSU football since they fired Sonny Lubick, I loved that guy.  My freshman year we hosted division II Idaho, went up 28-0 and lost.  The Earl Bruce years were just awful.   Then Sonny led us to Bowl Games and Conference titles and if it weren't for that Papa John's chugging dick face Urban Meyer and his Utah Utes we could have had a top 10 finish and a major bowl bid.   It looks like McElwain has the program on the right track and is really doing some positive things.
 
2013-12-23 07:19:41 AM  
your blog sucks.
 
2013-12-23 07:55:41 AM  

steamingpile: twistedmetal: steamingpile: You say he doesn't deserve praise and I say he deserves more credit than you want to give him.

Yep.

Well you're wrong, we have two doormat teams he's raised out of shiat to back that up, what proof do you have that TT would have been where they are without him? They hadn't done shiat without the rest of the conference sucking since the 60s and have only had 9+ wins in a season 9 times, maybe you don't realize Leach is responsible for over half of those with 5 of the 9 win seasons. So in 40 years they had 4 of those 9+ win season, in 10 he managed 5, seems you underestimate his actual value in elevated the program. He's also responsible for 6 of their 13 bowl wins, 7 if you count the one in the season when he got railroaded by ESPN. He had the best record of any head coach since the 60s, he is responsible for over half of their bowl wins but offer zero proof as to why he's overrated.

It seems the administration did a good job at covering their fark up after shiat canning him and then got lucky the big12 sucked the past couple of years.


I was agreeing with you, dude...........
 
2013-12-23 01:41:45 PM  

twistedmetal: steamingpile: twistedmetal: steamingpile: You say he doesn't deserve praise and I say he deserves more credit than you want to give him.

Yep.

Well you're wrong, we have two doormat teams he's raised out of shiat to back that up, what proof do you have that TT would have been where they are without him? They hadn't done shiat without the rest of the conference sucking since the 60s and have only had 9+ wins in a season 9 times, maybe you don't realize Leach is responsible for over half of those with 5 of the 9 win seasons. So in 40 years they had 4 of those 9+ win season, in 10 he managed 5, seems you underestimate his actual value in elevated the program. He's also responsible for 6 of their 13 bowl wins, 7 if you count the one in the season when he got railroaded by ESPN. He had the best record of any head coach since the 60s, he is responsible for over half of their bowl wins but offer zero proof as to why he's overrated.

It seems the administration did a good job at covering their fark up after shiat canning him and then got lucky the big12 sucked the past couple of years.

I was agreeing with you, dude...........


Oh well I was used to everyone else here shiatting on Leach for some reason, I just don't get it at all.

He did what every other coach would have done in that situation but is getting shiat for his players mistakes. He may be unorthodox but he gets results.
 
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