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(Boston Herald)   Homeland Security raids a strip club in search of... unlicensed Red Sox and Patriots gear. I guess all the terrorists are dead   (bostonherald.com) divider line 169
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2013-12-22 09:10:46 AM  
This is unlicensed Red Sox and Patriots gear. If it was unlicensed Texans or Royals gear, there wouldn't be a raid.
 
2013-12-22 09:18:46 AM  
I realize the "information wants to be free" generation doesn't understand intellectual property rights, but it's one of the last things the US has to support white collar workers.  Once Chairman Chang has collapsed the entire US economy with IP theft and cheap workers, you morons aren't going to be able to eat.  You're going to wonder why you spent 100's of thousands of dollars on your education -  "information that wants to be free" - and then you'll realize that your pedantic, stupid, petty, selfish arguments made your own education worthless.  In turn, that will make you worthless, and you'll die hungry.

My only real regret is that I probably won't live long enough to see it.
 
2013-12-22 09:24:28 AM  
I'm guessing that raiding Al Qaeda's every-third-Wednesday-in-the-month bake sale is next
 
2013-12-22 09:57:57 AM  

Lsherm: I realize the "information wants to be free" generation doesn't understand intellectual property rights, but it's one of the last things the US has to support white collar workers.  Once Chairman Chang has collapsed the entire US economy with IP theft and cheap workers, you morons aren't going to be able to eat.  You're going to wonder why you spent 100's of thousands of dollars on your education -  "information that wants to be free" - and then you'll realize that your pedantic, stupid, petty, selfish arguments made your own education worthless.  In turn, that will make you worthless, and you'll die hungry.

My only real regret is that I probably won't live long enough to see it.


Why do you hate Friedrich Hayek?
 
2013-12-22 10:10:52 AM  

Lsherm: I realize the "information wants to be free" generation doesn't understand intellectual property rights, but it's one of the last things the US has to support white collar workers.  Once Chairman Chang has collapsed the entire US economy with IP theft and cheap workers, you morons aren't going to be able to eat.  You're going to wonder why you spent 100's of thousands of dollars on your education -  "information that wants to be free" - and then you'll realize that your pedantic, stupid, petty, selfish arguments made your own education worthless.  In turn, that will make you worthless, and you'll die hungry.

My only real regret is that I probably won't live long enough to see it.


but think of all the yummy lo mein
 
2013-12-22 10:45:12 AM  
Sigh. Homeland Security is a cabinet department that encompasses a lot more than just "OH NOES THE TERRORISTS."

DHS also contains:
The Secret Service
Customs and Border Protection
Immigration and Customs Enforcement (the organization that showed up at this particular raid)
The Coast Guard
FEMA
Citizenship and Immigration Services
and several others

I suggest  subby go out there and actually figure out how his government works.
 
2013-12-22 10:56:50 AM  
Brockton cops and Homeland Security raided a strip club authorities say was peddling fake Red Sox and Patriots gear in exchange for lap dances

And it took HOURS to collect the evidence
 
2013-12-22 01:34:59 PM  
Hard time in the pokey.
 
2013-12-22 01:35:49 PM  
dl.dropboxusercontent.com
 
2013-12-22 01:36:19 PM  
I bounced at the Foxy Lady Providence for years. Been waiting for this, and I'm surprised this didn't happen a long time ago. The Lady has been giving these shirts away for over a decade. I thought the NFL at least was more aggressive at  protecting their name, especially considering it's being associated with a strip club.
 
2013-12-22 01:38:55 PM  
Explain how 500 fake designer purses sold for $50.00 each from a backroom of a failing mall has a street value of $1,000,000.00, must have something to do with congressional math.
 
2013-12-22 01:38:57 PM  

Lsherm: I realize the "information wants to be free" generation doesn't understand intellectual property rights


You are aware that copyright is a civil matter and should be handled by the civil court system and lawyers, and not the Department of Homeland Security, aren't you?

If you recall, Napster was sued out of existence. Nobody was ever arrested, because it was not a criminal matter.
 
2013-12-22 01:39:41 PM  
Was Mo Vaughn there when it all went down?
 
2013-12-22 01:40:25 PM  
Boy did this story miss the point. Fortunately, subby didn't.

Also, FTFA: "Strip club owner Frank Caswell declined comment, citing Homeland Security investigators. "I was instructed not to speak to anyone about this," he said."

I could see getting this advice from the lawyer representing you, but who in the hell is Homeland Security investigators to tell you not to speak to the press? I definitely would not take advice from my adversaries.
 
2013-12-22 01:40:27 PM  
Because if you're gonna smuggle a bomb into a stadium, you're gonna do it in a replica Peyton Manning helmet.

/yes NSA, that was a reference to his throwing game
 
2013-12-22 01:41:11 PM  

Lsherm: I realize the "information wants to be free" generation doesn't understand intellectual property rights, but it's one of the last things the US has to support white collar workers.  Once Chairman Chang has collapsed the entire US economy with IP theft and cheap workers, you morons aren't going to be able to eat.  You're going to wonder why you spent 100's of thousands of dollars on your education -  "information that wants to be free" - and then you'll realize that your pedantic, stupid, petty, selfish arguments made your own education worthless.  In turn, that will make you worthless, and you'll die hungry.

My only real regret is that I probably won't live long enough to see it.


You have a point that IP theft is real theft, but the nation(s) that lead the way in creating and executing content will still always be ahead. If we fall behind, it won't just be because some Chinese hackers copied CAD files, but because we failed epically in larger ways, like education and infrastructure.

America got its footing ripping industrial methods off of Europe. We became the greatest superpower because of other reasons, and Europe by the way didn't exactly decline to third-world status as a result.
 
2013-12-22 01:41:33 PM  
And yet they couldn't secure a marathon from a couple of nut jobs the FSB had already handed to us on a silver platter.
 
2013-12-22 01:42:48 PM  
Anybody surprised how close the USA is to getting its very own Gestapo?
 
opk
2013-12-22 01:42:55 PM  

Lsherm: I realize the "information wants to be free" generation doesn't understand intellectual property rights, but it's one of the last things the US has to support white collar workers.  Once Chairman Chang has collapsed the entire US economy with IP theft and cheap workers, you morons aren't going to be able to eat.  You're going to wonder why you spent 100's of thousands of dollars on your education -  "information that wants to be free" - and then you'll realize that your pedantic, stupid, petty, selfish arguments made your own education worthless.  In turn, that will make you worthless, and you'll die hungry.

My only real regret is that I probably won't live long enough to see it.


Based on the article, though, it looks like "Foxy Lady" was just using the logo of the sports teams - rather than selling actual knock off jerseys.  This really should have been handled just through the courts.
 
2013-12-22 01:44:19 PM  
 
2013-12-22 01:44:41 PM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: America got its footing ripping industrial methods off of Europe. We became the greatest superpower because of other reasons, and Europe by the way didn't exactly decline to third-world status as a result.


Here is the issue. Most of this "knock off" merchandise is not targeted because it hurts bottom lines of companies, but rather because the people selling them are intimately involved with organized crime internationally, as well as use some less than legitimate methods of production, such as human trafficing and slavery.
 
2013-12-22 01:45:15 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Boy did this story miss the point. Fortunately, subby didn't.

Also, FTFA: "Strip club owner Frank Caswell declined comment, citing Homeland Security investigators. "I was instructed not to speak to anyone about this," he said."

I could see getting this advice from the lawyer representing you, but who in the hell is Homeland Security investigators to tell you not to speak to the press? I definitely would not take advice from my adversaries.


Well, I know that normally strip-club owners dealing in illegal goods is the most trustworthy, but I'm going to still wait for confirmation that he was so instructed without good reason. (It's ok to tell him not to warn any of his suppliers, for example.)
 
2013-12-22 01:47:13 PM  

hardinparamedic: Yankees Team Gynecologist: America got its footing ripping industrial methods off of Europe. We became the greatest superpower because of other reasons, and Europe by the way didn't exactly decline to third-world status as a result.

Here is the issue. Most of this "knock off" merchandise is not targeted because it hurts bottom lines of companies, but rather because the people selling them are intimately involved with organized crime internationally, as well as use some less than legitimate methods of production, such as human trafficing and slavery.


True, I was more responding to Lsherm's larger point.
 
2013-12-22 01:47:25 PM  
Okay. A lap-dance for a sports jersey? And then Homeland Security had to get involved?
 
2013-12-22 01:48:37 PM  
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2013-12-22 01:50:02 PM  

Twinkles: Anybody surprised how close the USA is to getting its very own Gestapo?


*cracks a history book*

*checks watch*

:  /

"Nope.".
 
2013-12-22 01:50:15 PM  

vygramul: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Boy did this story miss the point. Fortunately, subby didn't.

Also, FTFA: "Strip club owner Frank Caswell declined comment, citing Homeland Security investigators. "I was instructed not to speak to anyone about this," he said."

I could see getting this advice from the lawyer representing you, but who in the hell is Homeland Security investigators to tell you not to speak to the press? I definitely would not take advice from my adversaries.

Well, I know that normally strip-club owners dealing in illegal goods is the most trustworthy, but I'm going to still wait for confirmation that he was so instructed without good reason. (It's ok to tell him not to warn any of his suppliers, for example.)


Oh I know, but all I have to go by is this crappy article that missed the point anyway. Homeland Security? Really?
 
2013-12-22 01:50:55 PM  

Your Hind Brain: Okay. A lap-dance for a sports jersey? And then Homeland Security had to get involved?


Yeah...

Who the f*ck gives up a lapdance for a knockoff sports crap? And homeland security...?

I need a diagram or something.
 
2013-12-22 01:54:37 PM  

Huskadoodle: Explain how 500 fake designer purses sold for $50.00 each from a backroom of a failing mall has a street value of $1,000,000.00, must have something to do with congressional math.


Based on Police Math, everyone who bought one would otherwise have bought the original at $2,000 apiece.
 
2013-12-22 01:55:00 PM  

Twinkles: Anybody surprised how close the USA is to getting its very own Gestapo?


Twinkles, I am so stealing this.  But I want to get a survey up to confirm.
My guess is around 2024. ( I mean for a full "we rewrote the constitution while your were asleep comrade" )
 
2013-12-22 01:55:04 PM  
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Never forget
 
2013-12-22 01:56:42 PM  

assalon5: Twinkles: Anybody surprised how close the USA is to getting its very own Gestapo?

Twinkles, I am so stealing this.  But I want to get a survey up to confirm.
My guess is around 2024. ( I mean for a full "we rewrote the constitution while your were asleep comrade" )


I think you're off by a few years.

www.dezynemusic.com
 
2013-12-22 01:57:00 PM  
Homeland, fatherland, motherland, it's all Disneyland.
 
2013-12-22 01:58:44 PM  
That's right folks, if you want to break smuggling rings, you have to bust them for things besides drugs.

Also, if they can get illegal immigrants and tons of products into the country undetected, how easy would it be for them to smuggle in trained fighters and equipment for them? These people traffic in sex slaves and drugs. If a dangerous group were to offer them a suitcase full of money to move some crates and a few hundred people, they would accept.
 
2013-12-22 01:59:09 PM  

BullBearMS: Now that is criminal.


I finally agree with you on something.
 
2013-12-22 01:59:45 PM  

Twinkles: Anybody surprised how close the USA is to getting its very own Gestapo?


Not even a little.

It may be a little simplistic, but fiction often relates bits of wisdom:

...nine rings were gifted to the race of Men, who above all else, desire power.

Recognizing the truth of that statement makes the behavior of humans very predictable and comprehensible. As does mankind's evolutionary roots.

If you look at anything we do as a species through the lens of our ego and our animal nature, you quickly become incapable of being surprised by our behavior.
 
2013-12-22 02:01:34 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: vygramul: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Boy did this story miss the point. Fortunately, subby didn't.

Also, FTFA: "Strip club owner Frank Caswell declined comment, citing Homeland Security investigators. "I was instructed not to speak to anyone about this," he said."

I could see getting this advice from the lawyer representing you, but who in the hell is Homeland Security investigators to tell you not to speak to the press? I definitely would not take advice from my adversaries.

Well, I know that normally strip-club owners dealing in illegal goods is the most trustworthy, but I'm going to still wait for confirmation that he was so instructed without good reason. (It's ok to tell him not to warn any of his suppliers, for example.)

Oh I know, but all I have to go by is this crappy article that missed the point anyway. Homeland Security? Really?


That says more about the misnomer of "Homeland Security" than it is about the appropriateness of the action. Homeland Security includes customs, for example. Where were the fake jerseys made? Did they come in from China and were tracked by customs?
 
2013-12-22 02:02:06 PM  

megarian: Your Hind Brain: Okay. A lap-dance for a sports jersey? And then Homeland Security had to get involved?

Yeah...

Who the f*ck gives up a lapdance for a knockoff sports crap? And homeland security...?

I need a diagram or something.


I don't think a diagram is going to be enough. I need charts, graphs, a PowerPoint presentation and a bunch of hyperbola from a motivational speaker to wrap my head around this one.
 
2013-12-22 02:02:31 PM  
Agent Smiths Laugh: If you look at anything we do as a species through the lens of our ego and our animal nature, you quickly become incapable of being surprised by our behavior.

Print this out and tape it to your refrigerator.
 
2013-12-22 02:03:49 PM  

Agent Smiths Laugh: Recognizing the truth of that statement makes the behavior of humans very predictable and comprehensible. As does mankind's evolutionary roots.

If you look at anything we do as a species through the lens of our ego and our animal nature, you quickly become incapable of being surprised by our behavior.


You've taken hyperbole and turned it into an artform, Sir.

When we're beating people like Phil Robertson or Jessie Jackson in the streets for voicing their opinions, and rounding up people and putting them in camps, let me know. Then I'll be able to take you seriously when you make a comparison of the United States, or really ANY first world democracy, with Nazi Germany.
 
2013-12-22 02:04:35 PM  

Rincewind53: Sigh. Homeland Security is a cabinet department that encompasses a lot more than just "OH NOES THE TERRORISTS."

DHS also contains:
The Secret Service
Customs and Border Protection
Immigration and Customs Enforcement (the organization that showed up at this particular raid)
The Coast Guard
FEMA
Citizenship and Immigration Services
and several others

I suggest  subby go out there and actually figure out how his government works.


The creation of this "Super Security" organization happened on Bush's watch and appeared to many as one of the paranoid over-reaction to 9/11, all rolled in with that annoying,intrusive TSA security theater, domestic spying via AT&T and the "if you are not for us you're with the terrorists" propaganda.

It even has a somewhat "Orwellian" name.

So, it's natural for those individuals with what should be a healthy skepticism of government will naturally roll their eyes at the mention of DHS getting involved is what appears to be more of a corporate matter.
 
2013-12-22 02:04:44 PM  
A government bureau using taxpayer dollars in a stupid way to protect corporate profits?

Must be a day ending in a Y.
 
2013-12-22 02:04:47 PM  
I, for one, and shocked, SHOCKED, that taxpayer monies funding anti-terrorism are being used in such a manner.

/Not really. These assholes need shiatcanned from orbit.
 
2013-12-22 02:05:24 PM  
Fake sports gear is just the excuse. They were probably really hoping to discover a cocaine distribution & prostitution ring and meth lab. Maybe feel up some strippers too.
 
2013-12-22 02:06:11 PM  

bunner: assalon5: Twinkles: Anybody surprised how close the USA is to getting its very own Gestapo?

Twinkles, I am so stealing this.  But I want to get a survey up to confirm.
My guess is around 2024. ( I mean for a full "we rewrote the constitution while your were asleep comrade" )

I think you're off by a few years.


I am still waiting for it to get a court challenge. The authorities seem to back out of charges whenever a victim of that legislation pushes the issue. I remember a photographer being detained for hours while an officer confirmed their identity. The 'crime' that took place? They were photographing a few power poles on public land.

Any farkers in NYC know if the city still has those no photography signs on the bridges and public buildings? And does the NYPD still enforce them?
 
2013-12-22 02:06:59 PM  
Homeland Security includes Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the office whose job it is to take down counterfeit goods.
 
2013-12-22 02:07:23 PM  

Twinkles: Anybody surprised how close the USA is to getting its very own Gestapo?


It's easy to misplace that ruler set to Angstrom units, Bucky.
 
2013-12-22 02:09:09 PM  

jayphat: megarian: Your Hind Brain: Okay. A lap-dance for a sports jersey? And then Homeland Security had to get involved?

Yeah...

Who the f*ck gives up a lapdance for a knockoff sports crap? And homeland security...?

I need a diagram or something.

I don't think a diagram is going to be enough. I need charts, graphs, a PowerPoint presentation and a bunch of hyperbola from a motivational speaker to wrap my head around this one.


Presentation is everything. Including my comment. Invented it. Time to re-nog.
 
2013-12-22 02:09:57 PM  
As soon as we realize that we're all sitting squarely in the first few chapters of the Third Reich's playbook, V.2.0, all of this will start to lose it's mystery.
 
2013-12-22 02:11:29 PM  

vudukungfu: I, for one, and shocked, SHOCKED, that taxpayer monies funding anti-terrorism are being used in such a manner.

/Not really. These assholes need shiatcanned from orbit.


You do realize that DHS is about 10 affiliated agencies, right? And that counterfeit goods are used to fund terrorist and criminal activities abroad?

www.nap.edu
 
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