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(AL.com)   Four gay black guys dress up in revealing Santa outfits and performed in an Alabama Christmas parade, thrusting their hips at spectators. Go on, guess what happened   (blog.al.com) divider line 154
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2013-12-22 09:23:05 AM  
19 votes:
I am all for you being as fabulous as you can, whenever, and wherever...that being said...

You need to know your audience, and there is a time a place for everything.  Christmas parades are for two demographics, old people and children.  If they are calling this event a "Children's Parade" then these guys were out of line in my opinion.  Highly unacceptable.
2013-12-22 08:44:39 AM  
14 votes:
If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.
2013-12-22 09:54:44 AM  
10 votes:

Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps


Uh... Not to nitpick here, Frank, but where exactly did they say they were campaigning for gay rights? Does everything you do as a straight man (I assume from this silly comment) reflect on heterosexual rights? Because damn, by that standard all the dead beat dads, wife beaters, child killing parents of the world have damn sure made sure your straight rights and married rights should all be taken away.

These guys are just being who they are, not trying to campaign for or get additional recognition except as anything other than their dance group. I assure you if a straight guy wanted to do the performance and dress the way they do he'd be more than welcome.

As for the "no one wants to see that" guy.... I don't want to see slutty ass cheerleaders acting like whores every time I watch football, but I don't biatch about it and start screaming about "OMG THE CHILDREN, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"

Which also brings up my last point. All of this bullshiat about it being a "Childrens Parade" - this parade is a parade for the town, NOT a "Children's Parade" a google search shows just as many if not more adults than children at the parade over the years - and a closer look shows some pretty slutty elf outfits. On white women.

I've put up with softcore straight porn being blasted at me for 27 years through cheerleaders, tv, movies, etc because it's "normal" and "what's expected" or "what most people want/expect" and quite frankly even though I don't find these femenine guys attractive, I think it's about time it happened.
#1 Because straight white males aren't the only people in the world.
#2 and more importantly though, payback's a biach. Feel the burn.
2013-12-22 09:32:32 AM  
10 votes:

Endive Wombat: How about it is a children's parade and tasteful attire should be the norm, no matter the gender???


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Oh God!  Shield your eyes, children!  How'd this garbage get on our television?!
2013-12-22 09:31:17 AM  
8 votes:
This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps
2013-12-22 09:17:59 AM  
6 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.


This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.
2013-12-22 07:21:40 AM  
6 votes:
It looks like nothing happened, but them some people got ex post facto upset because reasons?
2013-12-22 02:00:52 PM  
5 votes:
I don't really find these guys interesting and am not into the latest dance moves, but if the parade asked them to participate, big whoop. If my ten-year-old son saw them, he would either find it funny or gross. I might tease him about it. I would not be too afraid of his life being ruined or anything. It really is not that big of a deal. The kid sees worse on television. I think the media has a lot to do with this manufactured outrage.
2013-12-22 09:56:29 AM  
5 votes:
It seems to me like they just trying to make a political point. Showing your gay pride with sexually suggestive dance moves at a Christmas parade in Alabama meant for children, then when people get offended they can say, well you wouldn't be upset if we were women?

I know it's easier to side with the gays in this story, because someone will call you a bigot if you don't. Double bigot in fact, because they are black also.

Still it was a cheap political point.
2013-12-22 09:42:19 AM  
5 votes:
Nowhere in the article is it stated that The Dancing Elites are gay, or are taking a stand for gay rights. Subby just assumed they are gay, and everybody here just jumped on the bandwagon. Ironic that subby's headline implies that the local rednecks would judge them based on their appearance, when that's exactly what subby did.
2013-12-22 09:50:35 AM  
4 votes:

Endive Wombat: MrHappyRotter: Honestly, if I had the time, the money and the knowledge that this was going to happen, I'd have gone down there JUST to see this in person!  Talk about a show, are you not entertained?

After reading the article, it's actually a little funnier.  Apparently these guys were asked to participate in the parade by the organizers.  It's basically the equivalent of event organizers asking a controversial or inappropriate comedian to perform at a show, then acting shocked, absolutely appalled, when said comedian does his or her usual schtick.

No doubt there is some level of responsibility on the part of the organizers.  That being said, it is a freaking children's parade, personally I would dislike it if it were scantily clad women.

Time and place people.

Time
And
Place


So, these presumably gay and black men should learn their place.  Got it.
2013-12-22 08:31:22 AM  
4 votes:
They fixed the cable?
2013-12-22 11:21:32 AM  
3 votes:
Children's Xmas parade...Atlanta....

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2013-12-22 10:58:51 AM  
3 votes:
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2013-12-22 10:52:59 AM  
3 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: Time and place for everything boys, and a Christmas parade is not the time to flaunt your gayness in everyones face, and you knew that.

/Nice trolling though.


I know.  I'm just as outraged that these girls are pushing their straightness and ruining childhoods.

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2013-12-22 10:36:35 AM  
3 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: I figured they would have been beaten to death so...progress?


Yeah, really, not much happened.  They performed.  Some people complained.  No big deal all around.
2013-12-22 09:50:54 AM  
3 votes:

Endive Wombat: Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps

THIS 100%!!!!!

When you say "Gay man" it should not conjure up these dudes as a typical stereotype.  The what I am calling "establishment gay-rights movement" is fighting VERY hard in shedding itself of this stereotypical "look" and these guys are not helping.


Ah, so they're not true Scotsmen homosexuals.

Personally I see this as a setback, and nothing more than attention whoring at its worst.

If the organisers didn't want them to perform, they shouldn't have invited them.
2013-12-22 09:45:06 AM  
3 votes:
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2013-12-22 09:40:28 AM  
3 votes:

Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps


THIS 100%!!!!!

When you say "Gay man" it should not conjure up these dudes as a typical stereotype.  The what I am calling "establishment gay-rights movement" is fighting VERY hard in shedding itself of this stereotypical "look" and these guys are not helping.

Personally I see this as a setback, and nothing more than attention whoring at its worst.
2013-12-22 09:37:18 AM  
3 votes:
Honestly, if I had the time, the money and the knowledge that this was going to happen, I'd have gone down there JUST to see this in person!  Talk about a show, are you not entertained?

After reading the article, it's actually a little funnier.  Apparently these guys were asked to participate in the parade by the organizers.  It's basically the equivalent of event organizers asking a controversial or inappropriate comedian to perform at a show, then acting shocked, absolutely appalled, when said comedian does his or her usual schtick.
2013-12-22 09:35:50 AM  
3 votes:
ultimatecheerleaders.com

Look away!
2013-12-22 09:29:54 AM  
3 votes:
If they didn't actually get shot, then I'm going to say "good for you, Alabama."

/very low expectations
2013-12-22 09:28:33 AM  
3 votes:
I decided to be objective about this.  I spent a few minutes on Google image and video search, combining various terms and phrases with Christmas parade.  While I did not do an exhaustive and methodical scientific survey, I never the less have concluded that these guys' outfits and dance moves were absolutely no better and no worse than many of the cheerleader, dancer and sporty category of Christmas and Santa attire and dance I saw in videos and photos.  The only difference, as far as I can tell, is that it's somehow inappropriate, disgusting and insulting when men do it.

But in all fairness, I didn't exactly compare the mens' outfits and dance routines to parade participants at Semmes, Alabama.  Perhaps those folks would have been equally displeased if attractive women wore similar costumes and performed the same dancing.  Some how I doubt it though.  Maybe a few mothers would be upset, and of course the fathers might play along for show.
2013-12-22 09:26:28 AM  
3 votes:

Warlordtrooper: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.


How about it is a children's parade and tasteful attire should be the norm, no matter the gender???
2013-12-22 09:09:28 AM  
3 votes:

BizarreMan: Hell last parade I went to there was a troupe of girls, maybe aged 7-16 doing it.


That's not a parade, that's a felony.
2013-12-22 07:34:11 AM  
3 votes:
I've seen women doing that type of routine in parades.  Nobody seemed to mind.  Hell last parade I went to there was a troupe of girls, maybe aged 7-16 doing it.  Yes, highly inappropriate.
2013-12-22 07:40:31 PM  
2 votes:

MrHappyRotter: Terrible Old Man: You know guys, this is why the squares get up in arms about granting you that rights stuff. You were doing so well. *changes the sign to read "0 Days Since Last Incident To Set Back Gay Rights"*

You guys, this is why some gay people have stopped playing by your capricious societal rules.  Gays were and are promised equality in the U.S., how'd that whole staying the in closet thing work out for them?  After a while of playing by the rules and not getting anything out of it, it's just human nature that some people are going to say forget it, I'm doing my own thing.  Then one tiny fraction of the group, doing their own thing after being invited to do it and suddenly we're discussing why gays don't have equal rights?  Changes sign to read "237 + Years of Inequality for Gays and Their Rights in the U.S.A.".


This.  Setting aside all the notions on what is and isn't considered "grossly sexual", they were invited to perform by the organizers.  They arrived, stripped down to their uniforms, and were allowed to march.  That's it.  Any "outrage", ridiculous as it is, should be directed solely at the organizers, not at the performers.  School officials wouldn't ask GWAR to perform at their Prom Dance, but if they did and people were horribly shocked/offended/disgusted, how would that make it GWAR's fault?  They just did what they were paid to do.  It's not their fault no one considered the audience until AFTER the fact.  This is not only not an outrage, it's not a "set-back" of any kind to any community.  This is the very definition of a "non-issue".
2013-12-22 01:54:18 PM  
2 votes:

Endive Wombat: Relatively Obscure: Endive Wombat: That being said, how about some common sense and common decency?

These are way easier to say than they are to define.

But really, if high school dance squads are okay at family events, these guys don't really surpass those in any way except penis length.

No doubt!  I've said it here in other threads, and I've said it in this thread, I do believe that we live in a hyper-sexualized society, and I find it somewhat unacceptable.


Well, that's okay, but maybe what's "common" decency, then, doesn't mesh with how you (or I) always feel.  I certainly wouldn't suggest that you can't feel a little off-put by, well, whatever.

I'm just kind of saying that these guys don't appear to me to be doing anything so beyond the pale that it would even generate notice, if they were not men.  The "type of dancing" and the "type of dress" arguments against don't really hold much water in a general sense--not to say that for some people, maybe you, they aren't true.
2013-12-22 01:44:51 PM  
2 votes:
2013-12-22 12:36:40 PM  
2 votes:

MJMaloney187: cameroncrazy1984: I wonder how many people here are also vocal advocates for removing cheerleaders from NFL games as they are "sexualizing" the event and children are likely to be there.

Christ wasn't born on Superbowl Sunday, Hoss. You continue to be deliberately obtuse for the sake of argument. It's sophomoronic. Grow up.


Well, he wasn't born on Christmas either, so there's that.
2013-12-22 12:32:04 PM  
2 votes:
Well, they donned them now their gay apparel.

It's in the farking song.
2013-12-22 12:13:15 PM  
2 votes:

Lee451: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

THIS.

Why should children be exosed to this? Does the average Farker this this is good for them? Does the avege Farker/Lib/Libertarian allow their children to surf porn and watch Skinemax?

Homosexuals demand that they be respected and that "others" should stay out of their bedrooms. Then, once they shove their sexuality down society's throat, they get whiney because someone disapproves.


/You want your privacy respected, keep it private


Do you have similar sentiments about the Radio City Rockettes?

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/definitely not sexualized
2013-12-22 11:55:36 AM  
2 votes:
cameroncrazy1984:

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

That's some good satire of the brainless reactionary you've got there!  It is satire... right?

Why would you think so? Do you disagree? Should we allow bigotry to go unchecked?


What the hell does bigotry have to do with my initial post?  I don't like the idea of sexually suggestive dancing in a Christmas day parade.  Period.

You know, I need these occasional encounters with people like you to remind me that the Teahadist right doesn't have a monopoly on Pants-on-head retardation.
2013-12-22 11:53:58 AM  
2 votes:

baconbeard: cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: hillary: Richard Roma: I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.


Move to Iraq, then. Need help packing?

Preach that tolerance.

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

Suggesting that a Christmas day parade shouldn't be sexualized is now bigotry? Wow.

Yes, yes it is, because you believe that gays participating in a parade is automatically "sexualizing" it.

So they *weren't* wearing sexual revealing clothing and thrusting their loins at the spectators? What article did I read???


I think Cameron's point is that this kind of thing happens all the time. But it's women who are scantily clad and doing the thrusting. Often it's cheerleaders.

Now it's gay men doing it and suddenly there's a problem. Well, that raises some questions about motive for complaint.
2013-12-22 11:47:29 AM  
2 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: hillary: Richard Roma: I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.


Move to Iraq, then. Need help packing?

Preach that tolerance.

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

Suggesting that a Christmas day parade shouldn't be sexualized is now bigotry? Wow.

Yes, yes it is, because you believe that gays participating in a parade is automatically "sexualizing" it.


So they *weren't* wearing sexual revealing clothing and thrusting their loins at the spectators? What article did I read???
2013-12-22 11:35:50 AM  
2 votes:

theflatline: hillary: Richard Roma: I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.


Move to Iraq, then. Need help packing?

Preach that tolerance.


Bigotry deserves no tolerance.
2013-12-22 11:18:28 AM  
2 votes:
There really is no good counterargument to the fact that women and young girls do this exact same thing, including venues made for families and children, without anyone raising an eyebrow. "Look where they were, they should have known better." Yeah, they shoulda known society only accepts your sexualization if you have boobs or will have boobs someday when you hit puberty. Those pervs!
2013-12-22 11:14:33 AM  
2 votes:

MJMaloney187: Being deliberately provocative and clutching your pearls when people are offended is the definition of disingenuous. Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance. These guys are attention whores with the brains of 12 year old girls.


Is missionary through a hole in a sheet the only position you'll have sex in?

The world isn't just made up of what you define as normal.

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2013-12-22 11:09:56 AM  
2 votes:

Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps


Clearly they should have been acceptable gays. Like that sassy, subservient black fellow on Designing Women
2013-12-22 11:05:36 AM  
2 votes:

MJMaloney187: Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance


It 100% is. Why wouldn't it be? You're basically saying that the gays have no right to be in public because people don't like it.
2013-12-22 10:57:36 AM  
2 votes:
There is a War on Dance in the South.

It's why Southern Baptists are so numerous. It's a Get Out of Dance Lessons Free card.

In about one week the wives will say something like, "Remember that parade. You could probably dance better than those guys." And the husbands' entire excuse for never dancing will be challenged, and he figures it will be the worst, most drunken New Year's Eve ever, and some of it will take place on the dance floor.

He'll just mutter "Shoot me now." under his breath. Out loud, he'll say "But I don't have any short shorts or I hurt my back hanging lights or that hotel ballroom just burned down."
2013-12-22 10:55:45 AM  
2 votes:
At every parade that I've ever been to, there came a time to get another drink. This would have been that moment for me. Choice and opportunity are your friends.
2013-12-22 10:53:37 AM  
2 votes:
Parades are stupid anyway.
2013-12-22 10:50:31 AM  
2 votes:

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2013-12-22 10:21:06 AM  
2 votes:
Honestly, the outrage really boils down to one simple sentence:
It's all fun and games until someone finds something 'immoral' attractive and they begin to question their sexuality.

And to be fair in Alabama (I grew up in South GA which isn't much different.) not only is the 'gay' immoral, so is the feelings whoever, men, women, unichs, get about people outside of their own race. Leave the city down here and interracial couples get it worse than gay couples sometimes.
2013-12-22 10:04:56 AM  
2 votes:

trevzie: It seems to me like they just trying to make a political point. Showing your gay pride with sexually suggestive dance moves at a Christmas parade in Alabama meant for children, then when people get offended they can say, well you wouldn't be upset if we were women?

I know it's easier to side with the gays in this story, because someone will call you a bigot if you don't.


They may also call you a bigot for assuming the dancers are gay.

/unless you were blowing them and have first hand knowledge?
2013-12-22 10:03:51 AM  
2 votes:

AngryDragon: brax33: Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps

Uh... Not to nitpick here, Frank, but where exactly did they say they were campaigning for gay rights? Does everything you do as a straight man (I assume from this silly comment) reflect on heterosexual rights? Because damn, by that standard all the dead beat dads, wife beaters, child killing parents of the world have damn sure made sure your straight rights and married rights should all be taken away.

These guys are just being who they are, not trying to campaign for or get additional recognition except as anything other than their dance group. I assure you if a straight guy wanted to do the performance and dress the way they do he'd be more than welcome.

As for the "no one wants to see that" guy.... I don't want to see slutty ass cheerleaders acting like whores every time I watch football, but I don't biatch about it and start screaming about "OMG THE CHILDREN, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"

Which also brings up my last point. All of this bullshiat about it being a "Childrens Parade" - this parade is a parade for the town, NOT a "Children's Parade" a google search shows just as many if not more adults than children at the parade over the years - and a closer look shows some pretty slutty elf outfits. On white women.

I've put up with softcore straight porn being blasted at me for 27 years through cheerleaders, tv, movies, etc because it's "normal" and "what's expected" or "what most people want/expect" and quite frankly even though I don't find these femenine guys attractive, I think it's about time it happened.
#1 Because straight white males aren't the only people in the world.
#2 and more importantly though, payback's a biach. Feel the burn.

It is estimated that gay people are only about 5% of the population. Sorry, I like you guys, but you're a fringe group despite what TV and Hollywood would like to suggest.  What you don't like to see really is "normal" or at least what ...


Because women would never want to see attractive men, closeted people never lie, non-scientific studeis are always right, and bisexual men never count? Is that what you're saying here?

Even still, assuming your 5% number is correct, (I assure you it's not.) this is like saying "ban Hawaiians from dancing in parades, they're only 1% of the world population! Gross! No one else wants to see it!"
2013-12-22 10:00:43 AM  
2 votes:
Oh, yay.

Another case of "Let's do something mildly inappropriate for free attention, and then feign surprise people are talking about us, and milk the guilt of everyone for an extra few minutes of attention, all the while hoping no-one notices how terrible we are."
2013-12-22 09:59:09 AM  
2 votes:

trevzie: It seems to me like they just trying to make a political point. Showing your gay pride with sexually suggestive dance moves at a Christmas parade in Alabama meant for children, then when people get offended they can say, well you wouldn't be upset if we were women?

I know it's easier to side with the gays in this story, because someone will call you a bigot if you don't. Double bigot in fact, because they are black also.

Still it was a cheap political point.


They didn't invite themselves.
2013-12-22 09:58:53 AM  
2 votes:
Those guys seem fun.

I would like to go to a holiday-themed party with them.
2013-12-22 09:58:48 AM  
2 votes:

brax33: Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps

Uh... Not to nitpick here, Frank, but where exactly did they say they were campaigning for gay rights? Does everything you do as a straight man (I assume from this silly comment) reflect on heterosexual rights? Because damn, by that standard all the dead beat dads, wife beaters, child killing parents of the world have damn sure made sure your straight rights and married rights should all be taken away.

These guys are just being who they are, not trying to campaign for or get additional recognition except as anything other than their dance group. I assure you if a straight guy wanted to do the performance and dress the way they do he'd be more than welcome.

As for the "no one wants to see that" guy.... I don't want to see slutty ass cheerleaders acting like whores every time I watch football, but I don't biatch about it and start screaming about "OMG THE CHILDREN, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"

Which also brings up my last point. All of this bullshiat about it being a "Childrens Parade" - this parade is a parade for the town, NOT a "Children's Parade" a google search shows just as many if not more adults than children at the parade over the years - and a closer look shows some pretty slutty elf outfits. On white women.

I've put up with softcore straight porn being blasted at me for 27 years through cheerleaders, tv, movies, etc because it's "normal" and "what's expected" or "what most people want/expect" and quite frankly even though I don't find these femenine guys attractive, I think it's about time it happened.
#1 Because straight white males aren't the only people in the world.
#2 and more importantly though, payback's a biach. Feel the burn.


It is estimated that gay people are only about 5% of the population. Sorry, I like you guys, but you're a fringe group despite what TV and Hollywood would like to suggest.  What you don't like to see really is "normal" or at least what the vast majority of people want to see.

As far as your #2?  Schadenfreude is a poor tool to teach tolerance and acceptance.
2013-12-22 09:58:09 AM  
2 votes:
Gay culture is a lot like throwing paint at a wall. Sometimes you get sillyness like this, sometimes you get a priceless work of art like brunch.
2013-12-22 09:47:33 AM  
2 votes:
that's ballsy doing it in 'bama.
2013-12-22 09:41:19 AM  
2 votes:

Wolf892: I don't mind the gays being fabulous, so what... However, this smells of calculated controversy in order to keep their talk show appearances rolling in and quasi fame from running out before they can land that reality show they are hoping to end up on.


It read to me like they got called to perform by some person who had heard the name and not bothered to check into their act.
2013-12-22 09:31:44 AM  
2 votes:
"Four gay black guys dress up in revealing Santa outfits and performed in an Alabama Christmas parade, thrusting their hips at spectators. Go on, guess what happened"

They froze their narrow spandex-wearing asses off? It's freaking December!

/Northerner
2013-12-22 09:29:52 AM  
2 votes:
It ended a lot better than I was expecting from the headline.
2013-12-22 09:27:59 AM  
2 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: Warlordtrooper: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.

Sure, but we men got the better end of that deal. Are these guys fighting for the right of men to prance around like little sexpots? Because 1) that's already our right and 2) no one wants to see that, bro.


True enough - but this harmed no one, and frankly, people can use to have their sensibilities offended now and then. We wouldn't want to be "politically Correct", would we? :D
2013-12-22 09:26:43 AM  
2 votes:
Meh. They said the same thing about Elvis' dancing.
2013-12-22 09:24:08 AM  
2 votes:
So it appears that it was a mix up by the parade organizers, not realizing what kind of act they do...and that' sea out it, really.  No violence...no douchey 'we have a right to be in this parade' schtick.
2013-12-22 09:22:08 AM  
2 votes:
Things got lynchy?
2013-12-22 09:20:49 AM  
2 votes:
My guess was that they got shot or arrested.  Looks like I guessed wrong.  So what DID happen, then?
2013-12-22 07:18:05 AM  
2 votes:
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2013-12-22 09:59:28 PM  
1 votes:

Popular Opinion: someday, it will be perfectly fine to shove fruit up your ass in public. We just need to see it more until we learn to accept it.


Keep on fighting the good fight and maybe someday I'll come watch that performance you've been itching to do for years.
2013-12-22 09:58:54 PM  
1 votes:
"At least one woman demanded an apology, saying she had "never been so insulted" in her life."

Oh, boo-hoo, you feel insulted? Why? Because now you have to face people who don't fit into the neat little boxes in your head? Fark off.

/If you're gonna let women do that, men get to do it too
//and no, I don't approve of either--dance appropriately, for fark sake--but you might as well give the little girls fap material as well as the little boys.
2013-12-22 09:27:25 PM  
1 votes:

Mr. Right: cameroncrazy1984: Mr. Right: Bit'O'Gristle: Time and place for everything boys, and a Christmas parade is not the time to flaunt your gayness in everyones face, and you knew that.

/Nice trolling though.

Yes.  And when one recalls the responses to Miley Cyrus' twerking, which is not substantively different from the kind of routine these guys did, he would be hard-pressed to verify that the complaints are necessarily gay-bashing.  Is it too much to ask for decency in the public square?

I'm sorry that gays existing offends your delicate sensibilities. You can be a shut-in and avoid reality altogether.

The fact that you would make a comment like that identifies you as the type of gay rights activist who does not want tolerance of gays or equal rights for gays.  You obviously believe that everyone should be gay and that gays, because they are somehow more noble than heterosexuals, deserve more rights and special rights.


*points and laughs at the stupid*
2013-12-22 04:32:45 PM  
1 votes:

TheRealist II: There only purpose was to make the parade all about them and there agenda , I for my self and only myself do not like individuals of whatever gender they think they are whose only purpose to exist is to purposely make everything  all the time about them and there agenda in the most tasteless and classless way possible , as if I dont have to enough individuals around me doing enough of that already !


Except that it seems they were invited to be there by the parade's organizers and just did their normal routine. I think the organizers just invited a random dance troupe without checking them out first.
2013-12-22 02:16:00 PM  
1 votes:
OK, so what happened?  (Reads article)  Sounds like nothing.

Those fellows should just get away from Alambama and do their acts at children's parades above the Mason-Dixon line.  I'm sure they will be welcomed with open arms.
2013-12-22 01:58:36 PM  
1 votes:

MrHappyRotter: I decided to be objective about this.  I spent a few minutes on Google image and video search, combining various terms and phrases with Christmas parade.  While I did not do an exhaustive and methodical scientific survey, I never the less have concluded that these guys' outfits and dance moves were absolutely no better and no worse than many of the cheerleader, dancer and sporty category of Christmas and Santa attire and dance I saw in videos and photos.  The only difference, as far as I can tell, is that it's somehow inappropriate, disgusting and insulting when men do it.

But in all fairness, I didn't exactly compare the mens' outfits and dance routines to parade participants at Semmes, Alabama.  Perhaps those folks would have been equally displeased if attractive women wore similar costumes and performed the same dancing.  Some how I doubt it though.  Maybe a few mothers would be upset, and of course the fathers might play along for show.


Normally, in Semmes, Alabama the women dress like this, so you can see why the vaginas were sandy that day.
2013-12-22 01:53:36 PM  
1 votes:
Sexualised women at such events is seen as normal and cute, sexualised men are scary and vulgar. And they're gay so now it's super scary and disturbing for some people. And they're black. And it's in Alabama. I'm surprised someone didn't die of a heart attack.

One of those strange things, if a man and a woman are in a room and the man is the naked one, he's considered the sexual predator. If a man and a woman are in a room and the woman is the naked one, he's still the predator.

Women can wear any colour they choose without having their sexuality called into question. Men seem to have a long list of things they can't wear because it might look gay or wrong or something.

My husband watches Torchwood and likes the show but fast forwards past men kissing each other because it makes him too uncomfortable.

Lot of problems to get over. .
2013-12-22 01:38:40 PM  
1 votes:

kendelrio: rohar: Richard Roma: cameroncrazy1984:

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

That's some good satire of the brainless reactionary you've got there!  It is satire... right?

Why would you think so? Do you disagree? Should we allow bigotry to go unchecked?

What the hell does bigotry have to do with my initial post?  I don't like the idea of sexually suggestive dancing in a Christmas day parade.  Period.

You know, I need these occasional encounters with people like you to remind me that the Teahadist right doesn't have a monopoly on Pants-on-head retardation.

So the famous Rockettes should be removed from the Christmas season?

I haven't watched the Rockettes in years, but the last time I saw them they weren't doing booty dances so much as synchronized dancing.

I always thought that was the point, to show 40 (or more) dancers that had superb timing and choreography.

/sort of like the Silent Drill team at Eight and I.


Yeah, I don't think that person has ever actually seen the Rockettes. They aren't twerking in people's faces. Not that there's anything wrong with twerking in people's faces, but comparing this to the Rockettes is just stupid.
2013-12-22 01:35:42 PM  
1 votes:

rohar: Richard Roma: cameroncrazy1984:

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

That's some good satire of the brainless reactionary you've got there!  It is satire... right?

Why would you think so? Do you disagree? Should we allow bigotry to go unchecked?

What the hell does bigotry have to do with my initial post?  I don't like the idea of sexually suggestive dancing in a Christmas day parade.  Period.

You know, I need these occasional encounters with people like you to remind me that the Teahadist right doesn't have a monopoly on Pants-on-head retardation.

So the famous Rockettes should be removed from the Christmas season?


I haven't watched the Rockettes in years, but the last time I saw them they weren't doing booty dances so much as synchronized dancing.

I always thought that was the point, to show 40 (or more) dancers that had superb timing and choreography.

/sort of like the Silent Drill team at Eight and I.
2013-12-22 01:13:00 PM  
1 votes:

Endive Wombat: That being said, how about some common sense and common decency?


These are way easier to say than they are to define.

But really, if high school dance squads are okay at family events, these guys don't really surpass those in any way except penis length.
2013-12-22 01:04:11 PM  
1 votes:

BullBearMS: So are you going to post an example of you defending free speech without putting conditionals on it in a Duck Dynasty thread or not?


Forgot to say. I love how you're accusing him of something then demanding he be the one to prove you wrong. Let me try.


Remember that time you said in that post that 2+2=5? If you don't show me a post from another thread more than a day old right now where you say 2+2=4, then you clearly think 2+2=5.

Is this supposed to be fun or something? It's rather boring and childish.
2013-12-22 12:59:39 PM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: You have no problem telling people in this thread that it doesn't matter if they don't want their kids to see gay dudes twerking or not because free speech.

Hypocrite

I have no problem with people saying they don't like it either. I would have no problem with their employer firing them if this is somehow a breach of any contract they may have with them.  I DO have a problem with people saying they should be barred from public expression. Cmon man, this isn't really that hard to understand. Apparently you just don't know the difference between "consequences" and "punishment"


So are you going to post an example of you defending free speech without putting conditionals on it in a Duck Dynasty thread or not?

cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: I do not need to see anyone gay or straight, ass out, prancing around in public. It is much as my right to demand a sense of public decency.

No it isn't. You don't get to pick and choose which speech you find acceptable. That's not how the first amendment works.


Hypocrite
2013-12-22 12:56:15 PM  
1 votes:

Endive Wombat: cameroncrazy1984: MJMaloney187: Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance

It 100% is. Why wouldn't it be? You're basically saying that the gays have no right to be in public because people don't like it.

The common theme here among many of us is "Time and Place."  A Family oriented Christmas/Children's Parade is not the best time and place for ones political grandstanding.  I support gay rights to the farking max, but this was absolutely 100% not the right time and place to get ones message out.  It is attention whoring through and through...


Who decides the "time and place" where certain things are allowed? Me? You? These guys? The Pope?
2013-12-22 12:53:50 PM  
1 votes:

BullBearMS: grumpfuff: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: Nice to know that if this story had resulted in gay bashing you would have supported that.

How on earth do you get that from my post? They're obviously seeing consequences from it, are they not?

Whatever, hypocritical Mary.

Clutch your pearls some more while you support free speech that you happen to agree with.

I love how I cited evidence completely disproving your assertion, but you have no other option but to keep making the accusation. It's really funny.

Disproving what?

You have yet to cite a defense of what they ware saying that wasn't qualified with "but they deserve to be punished for it".

Hey, get back here with those goalposts.

You should go read the Duck Dynasty thread. He said multiple times that they had the right to say whatever they want. So yea, you can either admit you were wrong, or you can keep swinging at that strawman. Your choice.

Now you have to drag your alt into it? Or did you just forget who you were logged on as?


So you get proven wrong, and instead of being a man and admitting it, you instead double down on the stupid and call me an alt?

You shining model of maturity, you.


Endive Wombat: cameroncrazy1984: MJMaloney187: Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance

It 100% is. Why wouldn't it be? You're basically saying that the gays have no right to be in public because people don't like it.

The common theme here among many of us is "Time and Place."  A Family oriented Christmas/Children's Parade is not the best time and place for ones political grandstanding.  I support gay rights to the farking max, but this was absolutely 100% not the right time and place to get ones message out.  It is attention whoring through and through...


Maybe the parade organizers shouldn't have invited them.
2013-12-22 12:45:22 PM  
1 votes:

BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: I did. in the post that I quoted, nowhere do I say "but they deserve to be punished for it".

cameroncrazy1984: Did he not say what he wished? Nobody has said he doesn't. He just doesn't have the right to do it without consequence.


Consequence != punishment. Not surprising that you don't know this.
2013-12-22 12:44:30 PM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: I did. in the post that I quoted, nowhere do I say "but they deserve to be punished for it".


cameroncrazy1984: Did he not say what he wished? Nobody has said he doesn't. He just doesn't have the right to do it without consequence.

2013-12-22 12:42:41 PM  
1 votes:
They got only a fraction of the attention they desperately crave?
2013-12-22 12:27:40 PM  
1 votes:

wellreadneck: cameroncrazy1984: wellreadneck: Are these guys really representational of that community? There really should be a vote before these guys get to carry the banner everyone else has to walk behind.

You've got to be kidding.

If not, conservative gays can march in the parade too if they disagree with this troupe.

Weak. Where's the qualifier in all your other posts equating this with other gay rights issues?


What are you talking about? You appear to think that conservative gays have a problem with this dance troupe "representing them" as well. I just pointed out that conservative gay groups have just as much right to express themselves in public as liberals do.
2013-12-22 12:19:26 PM  
1 votes:
I wonder how many people here are also vocal advocates for removing cheerleaders from NFL games as they are "sexualizing" the event and children are likely to be there.
2013-12-22 12:16:38 PM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: You're a bigot because you said that we should not tolerate someone who expressed an opinion that differed from yours (i.e. that Santa Clause parades should not be sexualized events).

No, we should not tolerate bigoted views. The idea that a gay dance troupe automatically sexualizes an event and a bunch of scantily-clad females don't is ridiculous.

Except that's not what he said.

Why do you care, my opinion is worthless because you don't like a certain kind of beer.


Translation: I was wrong and am unwilling to admit it.
2013-12-22 12:15:50 PM  
1 votes:
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"Two snaps up around the world and back snap!"
2013-12-22 12:12:08 PM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: You're a bigot because you said that we should not tolerate someone who expressed an opinion that differed from yours (i.e. that Santa Clause parades should not be sexualized events).

No, we should not tolerate bigoted views. The idea that a gay dance troupe automatically sexualizes an event and a bunch of scantily-clad females don't is ridiculous.


Except that's not what he said.
2013-12-22 12:09:16 PM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: Oh, I think I do.

You don't appear to, considering that you're calling me a bigot for wanting people to be able to express their first amendment rights in a public event.


You're a bigot because you said that we should not tolerate someone who expressed an opinion that differed from yours (i.e. that Santa Clause parades should not be sexualized events).
2013-12-22 12:07:44 PM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Popular Opinion: Breaking News!

This just in...some people still uncomfortable with openly ghey expression.

but they gheys will shove it in their faces until they learn to quietly accept it.

someday, it will be perfectly fine to shove fruit up your ass in public. We just need to see it more until we learn to accept it.

Hooray for slippery slope arguments!


i suspected you were secretly bigoted against those that like to put fruit in their butts in public.
suspicions confirmed.
2013-12-22 12:02:22 PM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: Richard Roma: cameroncrazy1984:

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

That's some good satire of the brainless reactionary you've got there!  It is satire... right?

Why would you think so? Do you disagree? Should we allow bigotry to go unchecked?

What the hell does bigotry have to do with my initial post?  I don't like the idea of sexually suggestive dancing in a Christmas day parade.  Period.

You know, I need these occasional encounters with people like you to remind me that the Teahadist right doesn't have a monopoly on Pants-on-head retardation.

It's a good reminder that bigots come in all shapes, colours, and sexual orientations.

I don't think you understand the definition of "bigotry."


Oh, I think I do.
2013-12-22 11:59:46 AM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Mr. Right: The fact that you would make a comment like that identifies you as the type of gay rights activist who does not want tolerance of gays or equal rights for gays.  You obviously believe that everyone should be gay and that gays, because they are somehow more noble than heterosexuals, deserve more rights and special rights.

Please tell me you're joking. Nobody can be that stupid. What "special right" is involved when advocating for the right to march in a parade just like  every other citizen?


You made a tremendous leap when you accused me of being offended that gays exist.  There exists not a shred of evidence to that effect.  So I thought I'd return the favor and assume you're one of those whiny, little, asshats who claim equal rights when what they really want is the same right but twice as many of them and the right to special grievances against anyone who offends their delicate sensibilities.

I don't have a problem with gays or any other group, as long as they are rational, tolerant individuals.  Your comments identify you as someone who possesses  neither criteria.  Sorry you got a bad draw.
2013-12-22 11:59:01 AM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Mr. Right: But we could have done without the suggestive dancing.  I'm not a fan of that with women in public (especially where there are guaranteed to be young children around) either.

Your personal beliefs don't get to choose who gets to express freedom of speech.


Actually, in large-enough groups, they kinda do. Most areas draw a line somewhere. Even in San Francisco, having sex on the sidewalk will get you arrested. Wherever the morality-line is drawn, it exists somewhere and is a result of the combined opinions of many people placing a limit on someone else's freedom of speech.
2013-12-22 11:57:11 AM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Mr. Right: But we could have done without the suggestive dancing.  I'm not a fan of that with women in public (especially where there are guaranteed to be young children around) either.

Your personal beliefs don't get to choose who gets to express freedom of speech.


Dude, calling for people to behave appropriately for an audience of children is not the same as forcing them to behave in that manner.

You're going off the handle a bit here.
2013-12-22 11:56:58 AM  
1 votes:

Richard Roma: cameroncrazy1984:

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

That's some good satire of the brainless reactionary you've got there!  It is satire... right?

Why would you think so? Do you disagree? Should we allow bigotry to go unchecked?

What the hell does bigotry have to do with my initial post?  I don't like the idea of sexually suggestive dancing in a Christmas day parade.  Period.

You know, I need these occasional encounters with people like you to remind me that the Teahadist right doesn't have a monopoly on Pants-on-head retardation.


It's a good reminder that bigots come in all shapes, colours, and sexual orientations.
2013-12-22 11:55:13 AM  
1 votes:

GhostFish: I think Cameron's point is that this kind of thing happens all the time. But it's women who are scantily clad and doing the thrusting. Often it's cheerleaders.

Now it's gay men doing it and suddenly there's a problem. Well, that raises some questions about motive for complaint.


Exactly. As I said before, not a single person complained about Miley Cyrus's VMA performance.
2013-12-22 11:54:12 AM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: Go right ahead and cite yourself saying the same thing in a Duck Dynasty thread.

We'll wait.

Go back and read it yourself. I said it several times. It's not my fault you built a strawman that you are desperately trying to keep from unraveling.


So you can't.

Hypocrite
2013-12-22 11:52:14 AM  
1 votes:

BullBearMS: rohar: BullBearMS: They aren't hypocrites.

Just so we're clear here, are you suggesting we shouldn't suffer hypocrites?

I'm saying that if you defended the Duck Dynasty guys right to speak their mind but think these gay guys don't have just as much of a right to prance their hearts out, you are a hypocrite, yes.

And vice versa.



Hmm, seems we're in quite a bit of agreement.  Both parties had the right to do what they did/said.  But I'm afraid that's where the similarities end.

You see, the substance is the difference.

On party suggests that they're an openly gay dance group and did things in keeping with what an openly dance group does.

The other party says he's a "Man of god" and a devout Christian, but does the exact opposite of Jesus teachings.  As an example:

Matthew 6
5And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

If praying on a street corner is hypocritical, doing it on national TV must be.

Again, I agree, we must defend all men's rights, and we shouldn't suffer hypocrites.
2013-12-22 11:52:06 AM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: Part of me hopes it's just trolling, in which case, good job.

Part of me thinks it's sincere, in which case, Sieg Heil!

Yeah, advocating for free expression is SO fascist...


"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."
2013-12-22 11:50:09 AM  
1 votes:

Richard Roma: cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: hillary: Richard Roma: I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.


Move to Iraq, then. Need help packing?

Preach that tolerance.

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

That's some good satire of the brainless reactionary you've got there!  It is satire... right?


Part of me hopes it's just trolling, in which case, good job.

Part of me thinks it's sincere, in which case, Sieg Heil!
2013-12-22 11:48:00 AM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: hillary: Richard Roma: I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.


Move to Iraq, then. Need help packing?

Preach that tolerance.

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.


That's some good satire of the brainless reactionary you've got there!  It is satire... right?
2013-12-22 11:47:44 AM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Where did I ever say the Duck Dynasty guy didn't have the right to say what he did?


Where did you say that they did?

I've seen you claim these guys had a right to freedom of expression in this thread:

cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: I do not need to see anyone gay or straight, ass out, prancing around in public. It is much as my right to demand a sense of public decency.

No it isn't. You don't get to pick and choose which speech you find acceptable. That's not how the first amendment works.


Go right ahead and cite yourself saying the same thing in a Duck Dynasty thread.

We'll wait.
2013-12-22 11:45:54 AM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: hillary: Richard Roma: I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.


Move to Iraq, then. Need help packing?

Preach that tolerance.

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

Suggesting that a Christmas day parade shouldn't be sexualized is now bigotry? Wow.

Yes, yes it is, because you believe that gays participating in a parade is automatically "sexualizing" it.


No, it was the dance.  They gay guys were ok, they could have been in better shape though.
2013-12-22 11:45:37 AM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Please tell me you're joking. Nobody can be that stupid. What "special right" is involved when advocating for the right to march in a parade just like every other citizen?


Actually, I think only the people who were invited to march got to march.  Which, of course, these guys were.  Probably not next year, I imagine.
2013-12-22 11:42:43 AM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: hillary: Richard Roma: I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.


Move to Iraq, then. Need help packing?

Preach that tolerance.

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.


Suggesting that a Christmas day parade shouldn't be sexualized is now bigotry? Wow.
2013-12-22 11:42:12 AM  
1 votes:

rohar: BullBearMS: They aren't hypocrites.

Just so we're clear here, are you suggesting we shouldn't suffer hypocrites?


I'm saying that if you defended the Duck Dynasty guys right to speak their mind but think these gay guys don't have just as much of a right to prance their hearts out, you are a hypocrite, yes.

And vice versa.

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2013-12-22 11:41:35 AM  
1 votes:

BigBooper: Did everyone miss the part where these guys are trying to get a reality show going?

I know this wasn't in the same league as the balloon boy stunt, but it still seems like their stunt was obviously self promotion.


Since they're some kind of performance group, I imagine that every single time they perform anywhere for anything is some form of promotion for their performance group.  So they can perform.
2013-12-22 11:41:24 AM  
1 votes:

theflatline: hillary: Richard Roma: I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.


Move to Iraq, then. Need help packing?

Preach that tolerance.


Haven't you heard? People who have different opinions than you are hateful bigots and must be eliminated.
2013-12-22 11:41:09 AM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Mr. Right: Bit'O'Gristle: Time and place for everything boys, and a Christmas parade is not the time to flaunt your gayness in everyones face, and you knew that.

/Nice trolling though.

Yes.  And when one recalls the responses to Miley Cyrus' twerking, which is not substantively different from the kind of routine these guys did, he would be hard-pressed to verify that the complaints are necessarily gay-bashing.  Is it too much to ask for decency in the public square?

I'm sorry that gays existing offends your delicate sensibilities. You can be a shut-in and avoid reality altogether.


The fact that you would make a comment like that identifies you as the type of gay rights activist who does not want tolerance of gays or equal rights for gays.  You obviously believe that everyone should be gay and that gays, because they are somehow more noble than heterosexuals, deserve more rights and special rights.

The fact that gays exist bothers me not at all.  I have friends and relatives who are gay and we all get along just fine.  I don't want to watch my gay friends dancing like this at a Christmas party any more than I want to watch my brother try to play with his wife's tits at the family reunion while there are hoards of rug-rats running around.

But you can go on being offended since you are obviously a member of the First Church or the Perpetually Aggrieved.  And if my innocuous comments gave you another wafer for your Sacrament of Grievance and gave you one more opportunity to display your irrational intolerance of anyone who isn't a cheerleader for whatever you think the public needs to see, then you're welcome.  But don't count on it as a regular contribution.
2013-12-22 11:34:10 AM  
1 votes:
Random members of a minority act in a way we don't like, so let's jump into discussing how this is a problem for the minority and how it justifies peoples negative feelings about them.

Must be nice to be in a constant majority and not have to defend yourself and your cohorts for the tastes and actions of a few. I'm sure you'd love it if someone tried to burden you as a member of white, Christian culture with the actions of WBC or Rush Limbaugh.
2013-12-22 11:30:56 AM  
1 votes:
This is a video of the Semmes Christmas  parade from last year.

Pretty boring...  except for the wardrobe malfunction at 4:13.

And inappropriate clothing at 4:40?  And at 10:05?  (youngTaylor Swift is from Semmes apparently...).


And 'dancers' at 12:00.

14:30.  More leg-baring, 'dancing' goodness.

Black girls with bare legs at 18:45.  Geez sisters...something in the water there must sap people of their rhythm...

Dance troup full of young girls showing leg at 21:00.

Beads at 21:45.

Old guys on tractors at 22:20


(Okay, my final observation?  A few groups had females in clothing that showed a lot of leg...  But they weren't dressed as revealingly above the waist as the gay black dudes...  no midriffs, I don't think... Also, nobody was doing anything that could possibly be called 'dancing.'  I could see them doing sexy dance moves, and that being inappropriate. [ they're black guys.  And gay.  That's +2 on the big-schlong scale.  I'm sure their hip-thrusting came along with seeing some snakey outlines].

That being said, the scantily-cladness of the young girls in this thing is kinda creepy).

Also, gay black dudes - workout more.  You're dancers.  WTF's with the belly?
2013-12-22 11:28:24 AM  
1 votes:

MJMaloney187: Relatively Obscure: MJMaloney187: Being deliberately provocative and clutching your pearls when people are offended is the definition of disingenuous. Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance. These guys are attention whores with the brains of 12 year old girls.

When should four black cross-dressing homosexuals walk down Main Street in Alabama?

During a Mardi Gras parade, I would think.


And that's it?  I can walk down main street every single day.
2013-12-22 11:25:57 AM  
1 votes:
It sounds out of line if there were no cheerleaders or something similar in the parade. If there were, the people are full of sh*t and letting their bias show. Saying it hurts gay rights or isn't dignified isn't true but then again if you're arguing that it was acceptable no matter what, you're incorrect too
2013-12-22 11:25:07 AM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: MJMaloney187: Relatively Obscure: MJMaloney187: Being deliberately provocative and clutching your pearls when people are offended is the definition of disingenuous. Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance. These guys are attention whores with the brains of 12 year old girls.

When should four black cross-dressing homosexuals walk down Main Street in Alabama?

During a Mardi Gras parade, I would think.

Why is a Mardi Gras parade okay but a Christmas parade not? Freedom of expression doesn't care about holidays.


Actually, my hometown New Orleans, which is probably one of the gayest cities in the world(and has the oldest gay bar in the US) Mardi Gras organizes itself.

Parents bring their kids to see parades Uptown and in Metairie where they know the only scandalous thing they might see is a drunk vomiting.  It is understand those parts of the city are for families.

Now if you want the tits out craziness, then you head down to the French Quarter, where you will see gays and straights alike in full on crazy.  Everyone knows not to bring their kids their.  And it should be no different from an Xmas parade.  Certain events you can expect certain behavior.
2013-12-22 11:11:55 AM  
1 votes:

MJMaloney187: Relatively Obscure: MJMaloney187: Being deliberately provocative and clutching your pearls when people are offended is the definition of disingenuous. Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance. These guys are attention whores with the brains of 12 year old girls.

When should four black cross-dressing homosexuals walk down Main Street in Alabama?

During a Mardi Gras parade, I would think.


Why is a Mardi Gras parade okay but a Christmas parade not? Freedom of expression doesn't care about holidays.
2013-12-22 11:11:19 AM  
1 votes:

hasty ambush: Nothing gets people to treat you with dignity  like acting undignified.


Yeah, marching in a parade is so undignified! They should just stay in the closet where they're not enticing you with their gayness.
2013-12-22 11:10:03 AM  
1 votes:

BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: I do not need to see anyone gay or straight, ass out, prancing around in public.  It is much as my right to demand a sense of public decency.

No it isn't. You don't get to pick and choose which speech you find acceptable. That's not how the first amendment works.

Unless it's the Duck Dynasty guys


The Duck Dynasty guys can say whatever they want. If these guys' employer find a problem with this, fine. But this is a public parade, not the A&E network. Not surprising that you have no idea what the First Amendment is or how it works.
2013-12-22 11:09:03 AM  
1 votes:
This... may not have been the best idea on the part of the dancers. I get the feeling that if they were in San Francisco, where nobody would have batted an eyelash, they wouldn't have done it, but they did it here as some kind of statement.
2013-12-22 11:08:52 AM  
1 votes:

Mr. Right: Bit'O'Gristle: Time and place for everything boys, and a Christmas parade is not the time to flaunt your gayness in everyones face, and you knew that.

/Nice trolling though.

Yes.  And when one recalls the responses to Miley Cyrus' twerking, which is not substantively different from the kind of routine these guys did, he would be hard-pressed to verify that the complaints are necessarily gay-bashing.  Is it too much to ask for decency in the public square?


DING DING---We have a winner with Mr. Right.

The same people who complain we have over-sexualized culture in general, are creeped out by toddler pageants, make the comparison of these guys to cheerleaders, etc., are missing the point.  There's a time and place for scantily-clad people doing slightly-sexualized dance routines.  Christmas parades aren't one of those places.

/Have never seen the local female cheerleaders half-naked at Christmas parades--they always wear sweatsuits due to the occasion (and the weather up here in Milwaukee).
2013-12-22 11:06:24 AM  
1 votes:

MJMaloney187: Being deliberately provocative and clutching your pearls when people are offended is the definition of disingenuous. Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance. These guys are attention whores with the brains of 12 year old girls.


When should four black cross-dressing homosexuals walk down Main Street in Alabama?
2013-12-22 11:03:56 AM  
1 votes:
Being deliberately provocative and clutching your pearls when people are offended is the definition of disingenuous. Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance. These guys are attention whores with the brains of 12 year old girls.
2013-12-22 11:01:33 AM  
1 votes:

AngryDragon: brax33: Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps

Uh... Not to nitpick here, Frank, but where exactly did they say they were campaigning for gay rights? Does everything you do as a straight man (I assume from this silly comment) reflect on heterosexual rights? Because damn, by that standard all the dead beat dads, wife beaters, child killing parents of the world have damn sure made sure your straight rights and married rights should all be taken away.

These guys are just being who they are, not trying to campaign for or get additional recognition except as anything other than their dance group. I assure you if a straight guy wanted to do the performance and dress the way they do he'd be more than welcome.

As for the "no one wants to see that" guy.... I don't want to see slutty ass cheerleaders acting like whores every time I watch football, but I don't biatch about it and start screaming about "OMG THE CHILDREN, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"

Which also brings up my last point. All of this bullshiat about it being a "Childrens Parade" - this parade is a parade for the town, NOT a "Children's Parade" a google search shows just as many if not more adults than children at the parade over the years - and a closer look shows some pretty slutty elf outfits. On white women.

I've put up with softcore straight porn being blasted at me for 27 years through cheerleaders, tv, movies, etc because it's "normal" and "what's expected" or "what most people want/expect" and quite frankly even though I don't find these femenine guys attractive, I think it's about time it happened.
#1 Because straight white males aren't the only people in the world.
#2 and more importantly though, payback's a biach. Feel the burn.

It is estimated that gay people are only about 5% of the population. Sorry, I like you guys, but you're a fringe group despite what TV and Hollywood would like to suggest.  What you don't like to see really is "normal" or at least what ...


All straight people like to look at scantily clad women?  Because I'm straight, and oddly enough, I prefer looking at men.

I know it's hard to remember that women are people and not just things to look at sometimes.
2013-12-22 11:00:01 AM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Mr. Right: Bit'O'Gristle: Time and place for everything boys, and a Christmas parade is not the time to flaunt your gayness in everyones face, and you knew that.

/Nice trolling though.

Yes.  And when one recalls the responses to Miley Cyrus' twerking, which is not substantively different from the kind of routine these guys did, he would be hard-pressed to verify that the complaints are necessarily gay-bashing.  Is it too much to ask for decency in the public square?

I'm sorry that gays existing offends your delicate sensibilities. You can be a shut-in and avoid reality altogether.


I do not need to see anyone gay or straight, ass out, prancing around in public.  It is much as my right to demand a sense of public decency.

I am the most liberal cat in the world, but as much as I would like to go to the store in my bvd's, I might think that putting my pants on is much more a boon to the greater good than my own personal agenda that everyone should see my mooseknuckle.
2013-12-22 10:53:18 AM  
1 votes:

Mr. Right: Is it too much to ask for decency in the public square?


The "decency" line gets drawn in a lot of different places by people.  These guys, for example, aren't dressed MORE scantily than whole metric boatloads of girls or ladies who have paraded before without raising any ire.
2013-12-22 10:46:40 AM  
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Bit'O'Gristle: Time and place for everything boys, and a Christmas parade is not the time to flaunt your gayness in everyones face, and you knew that.

/Nice trolling though.

Wait, why not?


Don't you know being gay is only allowed during Pride parades? The rest of the time, they should just shut up and be straight like normal people.
2013-12-22 10:46:32 AM  
1 votes:
You had to look at some gay dude for 2 minutes in a parade?

images.sodahead.com

/seen dudes dressed in more risque outfits shopping for underwear and swimsuits online
2013-12-22 10:40:14 AM  
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: You seem to believe pretty horrible stereotypes about people from Alabama.

One step forward, two steps back.


Stereotypes? People have actually been lynched in Alabama for much less.
2013-12-22 10:35:37 AM  
1 votes:
I figured they would have been beaten to death so...progress?
2013-12-22 10:32:44 AM  
1 votes:

brax33: wellreadneck: brax33:
#1 Because straight white males aren't the only people in the world.

Do you really believe that only straight white males are offended by this?
Sweet.

No but do you believe that only gay males are NOT offended by this? I assure you some women most certainly enjoyed it.


I'm sure some women had no problem dragging the kids along to see Magic Mike, doesn't change the fact that some things, like community Christmas parades, are expected to be family friendly.
2013-12-22 10:32:37 AM  
1 votes:

parkerlewis: My guess was that they got shot or arrested.  Looks like I guessed wrong.  So what DID happen, then?


This was exactly my thought from the headline.
2013-12-22 10:32:33 AM  
1 votes:
www.moviestillsdb.com


Whatever, back freckles!
2013-12-22 10:31:19 AM  
1 votes:

Endive Wombat: They also did not confirm whether or not with the organizers that their little routine was appropriate for a farking Children's Parade!


If only the organizers could have looked into them, somehow.
2013-12-22 10:28:35 AM  
1 votes:
Everyone who saw these dancers live probably saw them for no more than 30 seconds as they moved down the route. We are a piss poor nation if 30 seconds of gay guys in tights is that unsettling to people. This is a nation that used to bury infants regularly from now commonly treated maladies, and now it can't watch 4 gay dudes for 30 seconds?
2013-12-22 10:21:40 AM  
1 votes:
There are a few people in this thread who are being suspiciously vocal in their complaints./also in what way is comparing what these guys did to cheerleaders not an apt comparison?
2013-12-22 10:19:28 AM  
1 votes:

Theaetetus: trevzie: It seems to me like they just trying to make a political point. Showing your gay pride with sexually suggestive dance moves at a Christmas parade in Alabama meant for children, then when people get offended they can say, well you wouldn't be upset if we were women?

I know it's easier to side with the gays in this story, because someone will call you a bigot if you don't.

They may also call you a bigot for assuming the dancers are gay.

/unless you were blowing them and have first hand knowledge?


'Four gay black guys dress up in revealing Santa outfits and performed in an Alabama Christmas parade, thrusting their hips at spectators. Go on, guess what happened'


Stay classy.scienceblogs.com
2013-12-22 10:17:26 AM  
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Endive Wombat: MrHappyRotter: So, these presumably gay and black men should learn their place. Got it.

Oh Jesus Christ!  You know that's not what I meant, knock it off!

There is a time and place for everything in life.  Is it appropriate to tell dick jokes while burring grandma?  No!  Is it appropriate to have scantily clad folks, regardless of gender, dancing around "in a suggestive manner" at a children's parade?  Nope!


Oh FFS...it's a "Christmas" parade for everyone in town. It's not just a "childrens'" parade. The only folks who seem to be clutching their pearls over this are a bunch of adults who are (mostly) vicariously butthurt because they read about it the paper or on Fark. Also, I don't see a single GD thing about any kid being offended or traumatized by the dancers. No need to project your issues on them.
2013-12-22 10:16:17 AM  
1 votes:
A bowel movement is nothing to be ashamed of. It's a completely natural and necessary bodily function. And I sincerely enjoy a leisurely, healthy one. It's just me being me. And yet, there are times and places where it's more appropriate than others.
2013-12-22 10:12:11 AM  
1 votes:

BizarreMan: I've seen women doing that type of routine in parades.  Nobody seemed to mind.  Hell last parade I went to there was a troupe of girls, maybe aged 7-16 doing it.  Yes, highly inappropriate.


I am for marriage equality and I fully support gay rights, however a Christmas parade is not the place for this type of routine.

Doesn't matter if it's women, men etc (especially young girls).
2013-12-22 10:11:44 AM  
1 votes:
I'm pretty sure the children who saw these guys dance are not going to be needing therapy. Some of the adults commenting on the event, however, do.
Including a couple ITT.
2013-12-22 10:10:15 AM  
1 votes:

wellreadneck: brax33:
#1 Because straight white males aren't the only people in the world.

Do you really believe that only straight white males are offended by this?
Sweet.


No but do you believe that only gay males are NOT offended by this? I assure you some women most certainly enjoyed it.
2013-12-22 10:10:07 AM  
1 votes:
I see the PC Police is in here trying to squash our rights again. Whatever happened to freedom of speech?
2013-12-22 10:09:00 AM  
1 votes:
We got it. You are gay. No need to make a fool of yourself.
2013-12-22 10:02:00 AM  
1 votes:

MrHappyRotter: So, these presumably gay and black men should learn their place. Got it.


Oh Jesus Christ!  You know that's not what I meant, knock it off!

There is a time and place for everything in life.  Is it appropriate to tell dick jokes while burring grandma?  No!  Is it appropriate to have scantily clad folks, regardless of gender, dancing around "in a suggestive manner" at a children's parade?  Nope!
2013-12-22 09:58:32 AM  
1 votes:
Nothing.
2013-12-22 09:58:10 AM  
1 votes:

Lackofname: AverageAmericanGuy: Lackofname: For those who DRTFA, these guys were Invited by the parade organizers, who apparently didn't look up what kind of dance group this was, watch any youtube videos of their performance, or anything.

AverageAmericanGuy: Warlordtrooper: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.

Sure, but we men got the better end of that deal. Are these guys fighting for the right of men to prance around like little sexpots? Because 1) that's already our right and 2) no one wants to see that, bro.

I wager the amount of people who want to see it are equal to the amount who want to see scantily clad women.

At the parade, or in general? Because if you're talking in general, I'd take that bet.

Yeah I should have specified AT A PARADE.


I'd still take that bet, especially if we are defining 'scantily clad' as the level of clothing these guys are wearing.
2013-12-22 09:51:11 AM  
1 votes:
Sounds like those folks needed a little shaking up. You go, girls!
2013-12-22 09:48:20 AM  
1 votes:

Endive Wombat: Relatively Obscure: Endive Wombat: Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps

THIS 100%!!!!!

When you say "Gay man" it should not conjure up these dudes as a typical stereotype.  The what I am calling "establishment gay-rights movement" is fighting VERY hard in shedding itself of this stereotypical "look" and these guys are not helping.

Personally I see this as a setback, and nothing more than attention whoring at its worst.

Maybe they're straight.

Sure.  Perhaps.  Buttt...come on...


If I had to bet money, I wouldn't bet on straight, sure.  I'm just saying, maybe this isn't a stand for gay rights at all.  Maybe it's just dudes who like to dress up and dance.
2013-12-22 09:43:41 AM  
1 votes:

Endive Wombat: Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps

THIS 100%!!!!!

When you say "Gay man" it should not conjure up these dudes as a typical stereotype.  The what I am calling "establishment gay-rights movement" is fighting VERY hard in shedding itself of this stereotypical "look" and these guys are not helping.

Personally I see this as a setback, and nothing more than attention whoring at its worst.


Maybe they're straight.
2013-12-22 09:42:40 AM  
1 votes:
There only purpose was to make the parade all about them and there agenda , I for my self and only myself do not like individuals of whatever gender they think they are whose only purpose to exist is to purposely make everything  all the time about them and there agenda in the most tasteless and classless way possible , as if I dont have to enough individuals around me doing enough of that already !
2013-12-22 09:41:29 AM  
1 votes:
tl;dr version: the world is different and that scares some people.
2013-12-22 09:40:43 AM  
1 votes:

Wolf892: I don't mind the gays being fabulous, so what... However, this smells of calculated controversy in order to keep their talk show appearances rolling in and quasi fame from running out before they can land that reality show they are hoping to end up on.


And...So?
2013-12-22 09:40:26 AM  
1 votes:

Lackofname: I wager the amount of people who want to see it are equal to the amount who want to see scantily clad women.


Yeah, I'm sorry but I'd have to take that bet.

These guys still have more balls than I do.
2013-12-22 09:33:05 AM  
1 votes:
The horrible, distorted audio quality of the performance offends me more than the dancing. Get an adequate P.A. system next time!
2013-12-22 09:32:34 AM  
1 votes:

Endive Wombat: Warlordtrooper: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.

How about it is a children's parade and tasteful attire should be the norm, no matter the gender???


Bingo!
2013-12-22 09:27:40 AM  
1 votes:
The real question is: Can they parallel park?
2013-12-22 09:25:28 AM  
1 votes:

Warlordtrooper: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.


It's also kind of like using Mardi Gras as an example of "straight culture".
2013-12-22 09:25:04 AM  
1 votes:

Warlordtrooper: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.


Sure, but we men got the better end of that deal. Are these guys fighting for the right of men to prance around like little sexpots? Because 1) that's already our right and 2) no one wants to see that, bro.
2013-12-22 08:00:53 AM  
1 votes:
That night when they climbed aboard their wives lots of Alabama men had something to shamefully picture when they closed their eyes?
 
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