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2013-12-22 11:57:33 AM

rohar: On party suggests that they're an openly gay dance group and did things in keeping with what an openly dance group does.

The other party says he's a "Man of god" and a devout Christian, but does the exact opposite of Jesus teachings. As an example:


Your agreement with their interpretations of the imaginary sayings of the imaginary sky being are kind of irrelevant.

Plenty of people don't agree with suggestive dancing by gay males.

Too damn bad for both groups.
 
2013-12-22 11:57:44 AM

Richard Roma: cameroncrazy1984:

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

That's some good satire of the brainless reactionary you've got there!  It is satire... right?

Why would you think so? Do you disagree? Should we allow bigotry to go unchecked?

What the hell does bigotry have to do with my initial post?  I don't like the idea of sexually suggestive dancing in a Christmas day parade.  Period.

You know, I need these occasional encounters with people like you to remind me that the Teahadist right doesn't have a monopoly on Pants-on-head retardation.


So the famous Rockettes should be removed from the Christmas season?
 
2013-12-22 11:59:01 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Mr. Right: But we could have done without the suggestive dancing.  I'm not a fan of that with women in public (especially where there are guaranteed to be young children around) either.

Your personal beliefs don't get to choose who gets to express freedom of speech.


Actually, in large-enough groups, they kinda do. Most areas draw a line somewhere. Even in San Francisco, having sex on the sidewalk will get you arrested. Wherever the morality-line is drawn, it exists somewhere and is a result of the combined opinions of many people placing a limit on someone else's freedom of speech.
 
2013-12-22 11:59:37 AM

BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: Go right ahead and cite yourself saying the same thing in a Duck Dynasty thread.

We'll wait.

Go back and read it yourself. I said it several times. It's not my fault you built a strawman that you are desperately trying to keep from unraveling.

So you can't.

Hypocrite


Boy, you probably should have read all of the threads before you said that:

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2013-12-21 08:21:49 PM
letrole: Rights are Rights. Either you have a right to say what you wish, or you don't.

Did he not say what he wished? Nobody has said he doesn't. He just doesn't have the right to do it without consequence.
 
2013-12-22 11:59:46 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Mr. Right: The fact that you would make a comment like that identifies you as the type of gay rights activist who does not want tolerance of gays or equal rights for gays.  You obviously believe that everyone should be gay and that gays, because they are somehow more noble than heterosexuals, deserve more rights and special rights.

Please tell me you're joking. Nobody can be that stupid. What "special right" is involved when advocating for the right to march in a parade just like  every other citizen?


You made a tremendous leap when you accused me of being offended that gays exist.  There exists not a shred of evidence to that effect.  So I thought I'd return the favor and assume you're one of those whiny, little, asshats who claim equal rights when what they really want is the same right but twice as many of them and the right to special grievances against anyone who offends their delicate sensibilities.

I don't have a problem with gays or any other group, as long as they are rational, tolerant individuals.  Your comments identify you as someone who possesses  neither criteria.  Sorry you got a bad draw.
 
2013-12-22 12:00:40 PM

Richard Roma: I don't like the idea of sexually suggestive dancing in a Christmas day parade.  Period.


And that's your opinion. But that doesn't mean you get to force your opinion on others.
 
2013-12-22 12:01:38 PM

baconbeard: Richard Roma: cameroncrazy1984:

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

That's some good satire of the brainless reactionary you've got there!  It is satire... right?

Why would you think so? Do you disagree? Should we allow bigotry to go unchecked?

What the hell does bigotry have to do with my initial post?  I don't like the idea of sexually suggestive dancing in a Christmas day parade.  Period.

You know, I need these occasional encounters with people like you to remind me that the Teahadist right doesn't have a monopoly on Pants-on-head retardation.

It's a good reminder that bigots come in all shapes, colours, and sexual orientations.


I don't think you understand the definition of "bigotry."
 
2013-12-22 12:01:41 PM

cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: Go right ahead and cite yourself saying the same thing in a Duck Dynasty thread.

We'll wait.

Go back and read it yourself. I said it several times. It's not my fault you built a strawman that you are desperately trying to keep from unraveling.

So you can't.

Hypocrite

Boy, you probably should have read all of the threads before you said that:

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2013-12-21 08:21:49 PM
letrole: Rights are Rights. Either you have a right to say what you wish, or you don't.

Did he not say what he wished? Nobody has said he doesn't. He just doesn't have the right to do it without consequence.


Did you just quote yourself?
 
2013-12-22 12:02:22 PM

cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: Richard Roma: cameroncrazy1984:

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

That's some good satire of the brainless reactionary you've got there!  It is satire... right?

Why would you think so? Do you disagree? Should we allow bigotry to go unchecked?

What the hell does bigotry have to do with my initial post?  I don't like the idea of sexually suggestive dancing in a Christmas day parade.  Period.

You know, I need these occasional encounters with people like you to remind me that the Teahadist right doesn't have a monopoly on Pants-on-head retardation.

It's a good reminder that bigots come in all shapes, colours, and sexual orientations.

I don't think you understand the definition of "bigotry."


Oh, I think I do.
 
2013-12-22 12:02:34 PM

GhostFish: Dude, calling for people to behave appropriately for an audience of children is not the same as forcing them to behave in that manner.


It is if you're calling on the government to force them to do so. As far as I am aware, there's no law about wearing shorts in public.
 
2013-12-22 12:02:48 PM

BullBearMS: rohar: On party suggests that they're an openly gay dance group and did things in keeping with what an openly dance group does.

The other party says he's a "Man of god" and a devout Christian, but does the exact opposite of Jesus teachings. As an example:

Your agreement with their interpretations of the imaginary sayings of the imaginary sky being are kind of irrelevant.

Plenty of people don't agree with suggestive dancing by gay males.

Too damn bad for both groups.


You'll notice, I didn't say I agree or disagree with Christianity as a whole.  Only that Phil supposedly does.  If he is a Christian, I would expect his behavior to be somewhat Christian if he is to use Christianity as a defense for his socially unacceptable comments.  He doesn't so he can't.

Again, I support the freedom of speech for both of these incidents.  I also see one of them, plainly, as a hypocrite.  His own religion says as much.

On the other hand, we have a gay dance troupe being a gay dance troupe.  They did exactly what was expected and what they always do.

You see the difference?
 
2013-12-22 12:02:58 PM
The local "citizens council" offered to set up Christmas decorations in their front yard?


southfort.net
 
2013-12-22 12:03:25 PM
They're actually pretty damn good, and the routine is comparable to what I've seen from some cheer squads. Santa #1 didn't do a great job of pulling off the outfit, but that's about it.

/from Alabama
 
2013-12-22 12:03:34 PM

baconbeard: Oh, I think I do.


You don't appear to, considering that you're calling me a bigot for wanting people to be able to express their first amendment rights in a public event.
 
2013-12-22 12:03:53 PM
Breaking News!

This just in...some people still uncomfortable with openly ghey expression.

but they gheys will shove it in their faces until they learn to quietly accept it.

someday, it will be perfectly fine to shove fruit up your ass in public. We just need to see it more until we learn to accept it.
 
2013-12-22 12:04:54 PM

supayoda: They're actually pretty damn good, and the routine is comparable to what I've seen from some cheer squads. Santa #1 didn't do a great job of pulling off the outfit, but that's about it.

/from Alabama


But they were gay! That's automatically sexualized!
 
2013-12-22 12:05:43 PM

Popular Opinion: Breaking News!

This just in...some people still uncomfortable with openly ghey expression.

but they gheys will shove it in their faces until they learn to quietly accept it.

someday, it will be perfectly fine to shove fruit up your ass in public. We just need to see it more until we learn to accept it.


Hooray for slippery slope arguments!
 
2013-12-22 12:05:46 PM
Sexualizing an event for children.

So the gay movement is now admitting what so many have claimed?
 
2013-12-22 12:06:16 PM

Popular Opinion: Breaking News!

This just in...some people still uncomfortable with openly ghey expression.

but they gheys will shove it in their faces until they learn to quietly accept it.

someday, it will be perfectly fine to shove fruit up your ass in public. We just need to see it more until we learn to accept it.


I'll get you a pineapple so that you can get the ball rolling.
 
2013-12-22 12:06:42 PM
So.... over the top LBGT type group performs in Alabama in a children's oriented Christmas parade and they are not harassed but people complain and this is a deal?  Would a Christian group in a gay pride parade in San Fran be treated better?
 
2013-12-22 12:07:44 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Popular Opinion: Breaking News!

This just in...some people still uncomfortable with openly ghey expression.

but they gheys will shove it in their faces until they learn to quietly accept it.

someday, it will be perfectly fine to shove fruit up your ass in public. We just need to see it more until we learn to accept it.

Hooray for slippery slope arguments!


i suspected you were secretly bigoted against those that like to put fruit in their butts in public.
suspicions confirmed.
 
2013-12-22 12:08:14 PM

Popular Opinion: cameroncrazy1984: Popular Opinion: Breaking News!

This just in...some people still uncomfortable with openly ghey expression.

but they gheys will shove it in their faces until they learn to quietly accept it.

someday, it will be perfectly fine to shove fruit up your ass in public. We just need to see it more until we learn to accept it.

Hooray for slippery slope arguments!

i suspected you were secretly bigoted against those that like to put fruit in their butts in public.
suspicions confirmed.


*yawn*

You're boring.
 
2013-12-22 12:09:00 PM

baconbeard: Did you just quote yourself?


Yes, because he asked me to find a post in a Duck Dynasty thread where I defended their first-amendment rights. At least make an attempt to read the entire post before you ask stupid questions.
 
2013-12-22 12:09:16 PM

cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: Oh, I think I do.

You don't appear to, considering that you're calling me a bigot for wanting people to be able to express their first amendment rights in a public event.


You're a bigot because you said that we should not tolerate someone who expressed an opinion that differed from yours (i.e. that Santa Clause parades should not be sexualized events).
 
2013-12-22 12:09:23 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.


THIS.

Why should children be exosed to this? Does the average Farker this this is good for them? Does the avege Farker/Lib/Libertarian allow their children to surf porn and watch Skinemax?

Homosexuals demand that they be respected and that "others" should stay out of their bedrooms. Then, once they shove their sexuality down society's throat, they get whiney because someone disapproves.


/You want your privacy respected, keep it private
 
2013-12-22 12:09:56 PM

CivicMindedFive: So.... over the top LBGT type group performs in Alabama in a children's oriented Christmas parade and they are not harassed but people complain and this is a deal?  Would a Christian group in a gay pride parade in San Fran be treated better?


Probably.  You realize there are a LOT of self identified Christian LGBT right?

/Take most of the Catholic clergy for instance...
 
2013-12-22 12:10:14 PM

CivicMindedFive: Would a Christian group in a gay pride parade in San Fran be treated better?


Why wouldn't they be? I'm sure there are one or two, actually.
 
2013-12-22 12:10:42 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Popular Opinion: cameroncrazy1984: Popular Opinion: Breaking News!

This just in...some people still uncomfortable with openly ghey expression.

but they gheys will shove it in their faces until they learn to quietly accept it.

someday, it will be perfectly fine to shove fruit up your ass in public. We just need to see it more until we learn to accept it.

Hooray for slippery slope arguments!

i suspected you were secretly bigoted against those that like to put fruit in their butts in public.
suspicions confirmed.

*yawn*

You're boring.


From your profile:

"Molson is pretty good."

Your opinion is worthless. I've wasted my time.
 
2013-12-22 12:11:14 PM

baconbeard: You're a bigot because you said that we should not tolerate someone who expressed an opinion that differed from yours (i.e. that Santa Clause parades should not be sexualized events).


No, we should not tolerate bigoted views. The idea that a gay dance troupe automatically sexualizes an event and a bunch of scantily-clad females don't is ridiculous.
 
2013-12-22 12:11:50 PM

baconbeard: From your profile:

"Molson is pretty good."

Your opinion is worthless. I've wasted my time.


Yeah, like I care about someone who doesn't actually read posts that he responds to.
 
2013-12-22 12:12:08 PM

cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: You're a bigot because you said that we should not tolerate someone who expressed an opinion that differed from yours (i.e. that Santa Clause parades should not be sexualized events).

No, we should not tolerate bigoted views. The idea that a gay dance troupe automatically sexualizes an event and a bunch of scantily-clad females don't is ridiculous.


Except that's not what he said.
 
2013-12-22 12:12:18 PM

Lee451: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

THIS.

Why should children be exosed to this? Does the average Farker this this is good for them? Does the avege Farker/Lib/Libertarian allow their children to surf porn and watch Skinemax?

Homosexuals demand that they be respected and that "others" should stay out of their bedrooms. Then, once they shove their sexuality down society's throat, they get whiney because someone disapproves.


/You want your privacy respected, keep it private


I'm holding you personally accountable for Howard Sterns heterosexual vulgarity.
 
2013-12-22 12:12:19 PM

cameroncrazy1984: supayoda: They're actually pretty damn good, and the routine is comparable to what I've seen from some cheer squads. Santa #1 didn't do a great job of pulling off the outfit, but that's about it.

/from Alabama

But they were gay! That's automatically sexualized!


How is that any different that what you're doing? Granted, you may know more of Alabama's gay community than the couple of dozen I know, but they (both black and white) are some of the most conservative gay friends I have. Are these guys really representational of that community? There really should be a vote before these guys get to carry the banner everyone else has to walk behind.
 
2013-12-22 12:13:15 PM

Lee451: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

THIS.

Why should children be exosed to this? Does the average Farker this this is good for them? Does the avege Farker/Lib/Libertarian allow their children to surf porn and watch Skinemax?

Homosexuals demand that they be respected and that "others" should stay out of their bedrooms. Then, once they shove their sexuality down society's throat, they get whiney because someone disapproves.


/You want your privacy respected, keep it private


Do you have similar sentiments about the Radio City Rockettes?

i1086.photobucket.com

/definitely not sexualized
 
2013-12-22 12:14:17 PM

baconbeard: cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: You're a bigot because you said that we should not tolerate someone who expressed an opinion that differed from yours (i.e. that Santa Clause parades should not be sexualized events).

No, we should not tolerate bigoted views. The idea that a gay dance troupe automatically sexualizes an event and a bunch of scantily-clad females don't is ridiculous.

Except that's not what he said.


Why do you care, my opinion is worthless because you don't like a certain kind of beer.
 
2013-12-22 12:14:32 PM
Relevant song.  Colfax by Kevin Gordon
 
2013-12-22 12:15:04 PM

wellreadneck: Are these guys really representational of that community? There really should be a vote before these guys get to carry the banner everyone else has to walk behind.


You've got to be kidding.

If not, conservative gays can march in the parade too if they disagree with this troupe.
 
2013-12-22 12:15:14 PM

cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: Go right ahead and cite yourself saying the same thing in a Duck Dynasty thread.

We'll wait.

Go back and read it yourself. I said it several times. It's not my fault you built a strawman that you are desperately trying to keep from unraveling.

So you can't.

Hypocrite

Boy, you probably should have read all of the threads before you said that:

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2013-12-21 08:21:49 PM
letrole: Rights are Rights. Either you have a right to say what you wish, or you don't.

Did he not say what he wished? Nobody has said he doesn't. He just doesn't have the right to do it without consequence.


Nice to know that if this story had resulted in gay bashing you would have supported that.
 
2013-12-22 12:15:50 PM
i1136.photobucket.com

"Two snaps up around the world and back snap!"
 
2013-12-22 12:16:29 PM

BullBearMS: Nice to know that if this story had resulted in gay bashing you would have supported that.


How on earth do you get that from my post? They're obviously seeing consequences from it, are they not?
 
2013-12-22 12:16:38 PM

cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: You're a bigot because you said that we should not tolerate someone who expressed an opinion that differed from yours (i.e. that Santa Clause parades should not be sexualized events).

No, we should not tolerate bigoted views. The idea that a gay dance troupe automatically sexualizes an event and a bunch of scantily-clad females don't is ridiculous.

Except that's not what he said.

Why do you care, my opinion is worthless because you don't like a certain kind of beer.


Translation: I was wrong and am unwilling to admit it.
 
2013-12-22 12:17:06 PM

Lee451: THIS.

Why should children be exosed to this?


I'm not sure what would happen if a kid saw a guy in little shorts dancing.
 
2013-12-22 12:17:36 PM

Bane of Broone: cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: You're a bigot because you said that we should not tolerate someone who expressed an opinion that differed from yours (i.e. that Santa Clause parades should not be sexualized events).

No, we should not tolerate bigoted views. The idea that a gay dance troupe automatically sexualizes an event and a bunch of scantily-clad females don't is ridiculous.

Except that's not what he said.

Why do you care, my opinion is worthless because you don't like a certain kind of beer.

Translation: I was wrong and am unwilling to admit it.


I never said that, quit putting words in my mouth. He just appears to think that taste in beer translates to every other aspect of a person's opinions.
 
2013-12-22 12:18:51 PM

Relatively Obscure: Lee451: THIS.

Why should children be exosed to this?

I'm not sure what would happen if a kid saw a guy in little shorts dancing.


They might want to find out where to buy a pair of little shorts?
 
2013-12-22 12:19:26 PM
I wonder how many people here are also vocal advocates for removing cheerleaders from NFL games as they are "sexualizing" the event and children are likely to be there.
 
2013-12-22 12:21:42 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Bane of Broone: cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: You're a bigot because you said that we should not tolerate someone who expressed an opinion that differed from yours (i.e. that Santa Clause parades should not be sexualized events).

No, we should not tolerate bigoted views. The idea that a gay dance troupe automatically sexualizes an event and a bunch of scantily-clad females don't is ridiculous.

Except that's not what he said.

Why do you care, my opinion is worthless because you don't like a certain kind of beer.

Translation: I was wrong and am unwilling to admit it.

I never said that, quit putting words in my mouth. He just appears to think that taste in beer translates to every other aspect of a person's opinions.


You're so cute. ^_^
 
2013-12-22 12:22:44 PM

Bane of Broone: You're so cute. ^_^


Thanks, I assume you've seen my profile picture.
 
2013-12-22 12:23:35 PM

cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: Nice to know that if this story had resulted in gay bashing you would have supported that.

How on earth do you get that from my post? They're obviously seeing consequences from it, are they not?


Whatever, hypocritical Mary.

Clutch your pearls some more while you support free speech that you happen to agree with.
 
2013-12-22 12:25:11 PM

theflatline: hillary: Richard Roma: I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.


Move to Iraq, then. Need help packing?

Preach that tolerance.


Not intolerant. Just not self-deluded or on hallucinogens. This is America. Sex is everywhere. Nothing can change that. If you don't like it, pluck out your eyes or move to Iraq. Or kill yourself. It's just the way it is. What you, I, or anyone else thinks is appropriate is irrelevant. Deal with it. Or don't. I don't care.
 
2013-12-22 12:25:43 PM

cameroncrazy1984: wellreadneck: Are these guys really representational of that community? There really should be a vote before these guys get to carry the banner everyone else has to walk behind.

You've got to be kidding.

If not, conservative gays can march in the parade too if they disagree with this troupe.


Weak. Where's the qualifier in all your other posts equating this with other gay rights issues?
 
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