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2013-12-22 07:18:05 AM  
i.imgur.com
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2013-12-22 07:21:40 AM  
It looks like nothing happened, but them some people got ex post facto upset because reasons?
 
2013-12-22 07:34:11 AM  
I've seen women doing that type of routine in parades.  Nobody seemed to mind.  Hell last parade I went to there was a troupe of girls, maybe aged 7-16 doing it.  Yes, highly inappropriate.
 
2013-12-22 07:56:18 AM  

BizarreMan: I've seen women doing that type of routine in parades.  Nobody seemed to mind.  Hell last parade I went to there was a troupe of girls, maybe aged 7-16 doing it.  Yes, highly inappropriate.


Video?

/nononono
 
2013-12-22 08:00:53 AM  
That night when they climbed aboard their wives lots of Alabama men had something to shamefully picture when they closed their eyes?
 
2013-12-22 08:31:22 AM  
They fixed the cable?
 
2013-12-22 08:44:39 AM  
If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.
 
2013-12-22 09:09:28 AM  

BizarreMan: Hell last parade I went to there was a troupe of girls, maybe aged 7-16 doing it.


That's not a parade, that's a felony.
 
2013-12-22 09:17:59 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.


This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.
 
2013-12-22 09:19:00 AM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: They fixed the cable?


That would be a true Christmas miracle!
 
2013-12-22 09:19:09 AM  
So Christmas Twerky is served early this year and to an entire town? Sweet.
 
2013-12-22 09:20:49 AM  
My guess was that they got shot or arrested.  Looks like I guessed wrong.  So what DID happen, then?
 
2013-12-22 09:22:08 AM  
Things got lynchy?
 
2013-12-22 09:23:05 AM  
I am all for you being as fabulous as you can, whenever, and wherever...that being said...

You need to know your audience, and there is a time a place for everything.  Christmas parades are for two demographics, old people and children.  If they are calling this event a "Children's Parade" then these guys were out of line in my opinion.  Highly unacceptable.
 
2013-12-22 09:24:08 AM  
So it appears that it was a mix up by the parade organizers, not realizing what kind of act they do...and that' sea out it, really.  No violence...no douchey 'we have a right to be in this parade' schtick.
 
2013-12-22 09:24:18 AM  
I see the new advertisement for "Eddie's Fine-ass Jewelry" is out!
 
2013-12-22 09:24:58 AM  
Megyn Kelly claimed it should have been performed by gay white men then doubted her commitment to Sparkle Motion.
 
2013-12-22 09:25:04 AM  

Warlordtrooper: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.


Sure, but we men got the better end of that deal. Are these guys fighting for the right of men to prance around like little sexpots? Because 1) that's already our right and 2) no one wants to see that, bro.
 
2013-12-22 09:25:28 AM  

Warlordtrooper: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.


It's also kind of like using Mardi Gras as an example of "straight culture".
 
2013-12-22 09:26:28 AM  

Warlordtrooper: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.


How about it is a children's parade and tasteful attire should be the norm, no matter the gender???
 
2013-12-22 09:26:43 AM  
Meh. They said the same thing about Elvis' dancing.
 
2013-12-22 09:27:40 AM  
The real question is: Can they parallel park?
 
2013-12-22 09:27:59 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Warlordtrooper: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.

Sure, but we men got the better end of that deal. Are these guys fighting for the right of men to prance around like little sexpots? Because 1) that's already our right and 2) no one wants to see that, bro.


True enough - but this harmed no one, and frankly, people can use to have their sensibilities offended now and then. We wouldn't want to be "politically Correct", would we? :D
 
2013-12-22 09:28:33 AM  
I decided to be objective about this.  I spent a few minutes on Google image and video search, combining various terms and phrases with Christmas parade.  While I did not do an exhaustive and methodical scientific survey, I never the less have concluded that these guys' outfits and dance moves were absolutely no better and no worse than many of the cheerleader, dancer and sporty category of Christmas and Santa attire and dance I saw in videos and photos.  The only difference, as far as I can tell, is that it's somehow inappropriate, disgusting and insulting when men do it.

But in all fairness, I didn't exactly compare the mens' outfits and dance routines to parade participants at Semmes, Alabama.  Perhaps those folks would have been equally displeased if attractive women wore similar costumes and performed the same dancing.  Some how I doubt it though.  Maybe a few mothers would be upset, and of course the fathers might play along for show.
 
2013-12-22 09:29:01 AM  
It's not exactly the same as the march to Selma, but Dr. King would likely approve.
 
2013-12-22 09:29:52 AM  
It ended a lot better than I was expecting from the headline.
 
2013-12-22 09:29:54 AM  
If they didn't actually get shot, then I'm going to say "good for you, Alabama."

/very low expectations
 
2013-12-22 09:29:58 AM  
What happened next?
I imagine this.......img.fark.net
 
2013-12-22 09:31:17 AM  
This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps
 
2013-12-22 09:31:31 AM  

parkerlewis: My guess was that they got shot or arrested.  Looks like I guessed wrong.  So what DID happen, then?


Looks like nothing if I read the article correctly.  Some people sent angry letters and the video of it went viral.  The parade organizer basically said that it would be more trouble to raise a fuss about it while they were lining up and just let them go ahead.  Seems like a reasonable chain of events.

Either subby didn't get tipped from his last table of conservative diners or he's been in the eggnog already.
 
2013-12-22 09:31:44 AM  
"Four gay black guys dress up in revealing Santa outfits and performed in an Alabama Christmas parade, thrusting their hips at spectators. Go on, guess what happened"

They froze their narrow spandex-wearing asses off? It's freaking December!

/Northerner
 
2013-12-22 09:32:32 AM  

Endive Wombat: How about it is a children's parade and tasteful attire should be the norm, no matter the gender???


www.x69twisted.com

Oh God!  Shield your eyes, children!  How'd this garbage get on our television?!
 
2013-12-22 09:32:34 AM  

Endive Wombat: Warlordtrooper: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.

How about it is a children's parade and tasteful attire should be the norm, no matter the gender???


Bingo!
 
2013-12-22 09:32:51 AM  
Oh,
It was just SO special
 
2013-12-22 09:33:05 AM  
The horrible, distorted audio quality of the performance offends me more than the dancing. Get an adequate P.A. system next time!
 
2013-12-22 09:33:59 AM  
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2013-12-22 09:34:19 AM  
For those who DRTFA, these guys were Invited by the parade organizers, who apparently didn't look up what kind of dance group this was, watch any youtube videos of their performance, or anything.

AverageAmericanGuy: Warlordtrooper: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.

Sure, but we men got the better end of that deal. Are these guys fighting for the right of men to prance around like little sexpots? Because 1) that's already our right and 2) no one wants to see that, bro.


I wager the amount of people who want to see it are equal to the amount who want to see scantily clad women.
 
2013-12-22 09:34:51 AM  
I saw Daddy kissing Santa Claus
Underneath the mistletoe last night
Saw spots of green and red
Get these thoughts out of my head
I wish that I'd rolled over
and gone back to sleep instead

Not that there's anything wrong with that

I saw Daddy tickle Santa Claus
Underneath his beard so snowy white
I couldn't make a noise
Yeah, who would've thought that he liked boys?
It seems that he's much further in the closet than my toys

Then Mommy and Daddy are kissing Santa Claus
It's a three way, three way tonight
I tell you it was rough
Seeing Mom as fingercuffs
Maybe this year, since Dad is queer,
I'll get some better stuff

Not that there's anything wrong with that
 
2013-12-22 09:35:33 AM  

Lackofname: For those who DRTFA, these guys were Invited by the parade organizers, who apparently didn't look up what kind of dance group this was, watch any youtube videos of their performance, or anything.

AverageAmericanGuy: Warlordtrooper: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.

Sure, but we men got the better end of that deal. Are these guys fighting for the right of men to prance around like little sexpots? Because 1) that's already our right and 2) no one wants to see that, bro.

I wager the amount of people who want to see it are equal to the amount who want to see scantily clad women.


At the parade, or in general? Because if you're talking in general, I'd take that bet.
 
2013-12-22 09:35:45 AM  

Lackofname: For those who DRTFA, these guys were Invited by the parade organizers, who apparently didn't look up what kind of dance group this was, watch any youtube videos of their performance, or anything.

AverageAmericanGuy: Warlordtrooper: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.

Sure, but we men got the better end of that deal. Are these guys fighting for the right of men to prance around like little sexpots? Because 1) that's already our right and 2) no one wants to see that, bro.

I wager the amount of people who want to see it are equal to the amount who want to see scantily clad women.


On your last part, I almost guarantee that's not true
 
2013-12-22 09:35:50 AM  
ultimatecheerleaders.com

Look away!
 
2013-12-22 09:36:33 AM  
Sigh.
 
2013-12-22 09:37:18 AM  
Honestly, if I had the time, the money and the knowledge that this was going to happen, I'd have gone down there JUST to see this in person!  Talk about a show, are you not entertained?

After reading the article, it's actually a little funnier.  Apparently these guys were asked to participate in the parade by the organizers.  It's basically the equivalent of event organizers asking a controversial or inappropriate comedian to perform at a show, then acting shocked, absolutely appalled, when said comedian does his or her usual schtick.
 
2013-12-22 09:37:47 AM  
Homershectuals is gross.

DUCK DYNASTY!
 
2013-12-22 09:40:26 AM  

Lackofname: I wager the amount of people who want to see it are equal to the amount who want to see scantily clad women.


Yeah, I'm sorry but I'd have to take that bet.

These guys still have more balls than I do.
 
2013-12-22 09:40:28 AM  

Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps


THIS 100%!!!!!

When you say "Gay man" it should not conjure up these dudes as a typical stereotype.  The what I am calling "establishment gay-rights movement" is fighting VERY hard in shedding itself of this stereotypical "look" and these guys are not helping.

Personally I see this as a setback, and nothing more than attention whoring at its worst.
 
2013-12-22 09:40:43 AM  

Wolf892: I don't mind the gays being fabulous, so what... However, this smells of calculated controversy in order to keep their talk show appearances rolling in and quasi fame from running out before they can land that reality show they are hoping to end up on.


And...So?
 
2013-12-22 09:41:19 AM  

Wolf892: I don't mind the gays being fabulous, so what... However, this smells of calculated controversy in order to keep their talk show appearances rolling in and quasi fame from running out before they can land that reality show they are hoping to end up on.


It read to me like they got called to perform by some person who had heard the name and not bothered to check into their act.
 
2013-12-22 09:41:29 AM  
tl;dr version: the world is different and that scares some people.
 
2013-12-22 09:42:19 AM  
Nowhere in the article is it stated that The Dancing Elites are gay, or are taking a stand for gay rights. Subby just assumed they are gay, and everybody here just jumped on the bandwagon. Ironic that subby's headline implies that the local rednecks would judge them based on their appearance, when that's exactly what subby did.
 
2013-12-22 09:42:40 AM  
There only purpose was to make the parade all about them and there agenda , I for my self and only myself do not like individuals of whatever gender they think they are whose only purpose to exist is to purposely make everything  all the time about them and there agenda in the most tasteless and classless way possible , as if I dont have to enough individuals around me doing enough of that already !
 
2013-12-22 09:42:59 AM  
Wow, those legs. Mmm, easy to see why the mothers are all "concerned", AKA jealous.

/ maybe something a little more child appropriate would've been better. Just attire even
 
2013-12-22 09:43:15 AM  
People stared at Father Frost
Thrust his hips when his pants come off
Keep your eyes on the thighs
Hold on
 
2013-12-22 09:43:41 AM  

Endive Wombat: Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps

THIS 100%!!!!!

When you say "Gay man" it should not conjure up these dudes as a typical stereotype.  The what I am calling "establishment gay-rights movement" is fighting VERY hard in shedding itself of this stereotypical "look" and these guys are not helping.

Personally I see this as a setback, and nothing more than attention whoring at its worst.


Maybe they're straight.
 
2013-12-22 09:44:03 AM  

MrHappyRotter: Honestly, if I had the time, the money and the knowledge that this was going to happen, I'd have gone down there JUST to see this in person!  Talk about a show, are you not entertained?

After reading the article, it's actually a little funnier.  Apparently these guys were asked to participate in the parade by the organizers.  It's basically the equivalent of event organizers asking a controversial or inappropriate comedian to perform at a show, then acting shocked, absolutely appalled, when said comedian does his or her usual schtick.


No doubt there is some level of responsibility on the part of the organizers.  That being said, it is a freaking children's parade, personally I would dislike it if it were scantily clad women.

Time and place people.

Time
And
Place
 
2013-12-22 09:44:55 AM  
"Suzanne Massingill, a talent agent in Mobile who advises the Prancing Elites..."

That was some douchey advice she gave them.
 
2013-12-22 09:45:06 AM  
shechive.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-12-22 09:45:19 AM  

Relatively Obscure: Endive Wombat: Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps

THIS 100%!!!!!

When you say "Gay man" it should not conjure up these dudes as a typical stereotype.  The what I am calling "establishment gay-rights movement" is fighting VERY hard in shedding itself of this stereotypical "look" and these guys are not helping.

Personally I see this as a setback, and nothing more than attention whoring at its worst.

Maybe they're straight.


They're not
 
2013-12-22 09:45:40 AM  

HighlanderRPI: [shechive.files.wordpress.com image 400x400]


Keep farking that chicken, highlander.
 
2013-12-22 09:45:53 AM  

Relatively Obscure: Endive Wombat: Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps

THIS 100%!!!!!

When you say "Gay man" it should not conjure up these dudes as a typical stereotype.  The what I am calling "establishment gay-rights movement" is fighting VERY hard in shedding itself of this stereotypical "look" and these guys are not helping.

Personally I see this as a setback, and nothing more than attention whoring at its worst.

Maybe they're straight.


Sure.  Perhaps.  Buttt...come on...
 
2013-12-22 09:47:33 AM  
that's ballsy doing it in 'bama.
 
2013-12-22 09:48:20 AM  

Endive Wombat: Relatively Obscure: Endive Wombat: Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps

THIS 100%!!!!!

When you say "Gay man" it should not conjure up these dudes as a typical stereotype.  The what I am calling "establishment gay-rights movement" is fighting VERY hard in shedding itself of this stereotypical "look" and these guys are not helping.

Personally I see this as a setback, and nothing more than attention whoring at its worst.

Maybe they're straight.

Sure.  Perhaps.  Buttt...come on...


If I had to bet money, I wouldn't bet on straight, sure.  I'm just saying, maybe this isn't a stand for gay rights at all.  Maybe it's just dudes who like to dress up and dance.
 
2013-12-22 09:48:30 AM  
Fabulous! Instead of elves, fairies troll.
 
2013-12-22 09:50:35 AM  

Endive Wombat: MrHappyRotter: Honestly, if I had the time, the money and the knowledge that this was going to happen, I'd have gone down there JUST to see this in person!  Talk about a show, are you not entertained?

After reading the article, it's actually a little funnier.  Apparently these guys were asked to participate in the parade by the organizers.  It's basically the equivalent of event organizers asking a controversial or inappropriate comedian to perform at a show, then acting shocked, absolutely appalled, when said comedian does his or her usual schtick.

No doubt there is some level of responsibility on the part of the organizers.  That being said, it is a freaking children's parade, personally I would dislike it if it were scantily clad women.

Time and place people.

Time
And
Place


So, these presumably gay and black men should learn their place.  Got it.
 
2013-12-22 09:50:54 AM  

Endive Wombat: Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps

THIS 100%!!!!!

When you say "Gay man" it should not conjure up these dudes as a typical stereotype.  The what I am calling "establishment gay-rights movement" is fighting VERY hard in shedding itself of this stereotypical "look" and these guys are not helping.


Ah, so they're not true Scotsmen homosexuals.

Personally I see this as a setback, and nothing more than attention whoring at its worst.

If the organisers didn't want them to perform, they shouldn't have invited them.
 
2013-12-22 09:51:11 AM  
Sounds like those folks needed a little shaking up. You go, girls!
 
2013-12-22 09:52:53 AM  

MrHappyRotter: So, these presumably gay and black men should learn their place. Got it.


Now come on.  That's a step too far.  I think it's safe to say they're at least PROBABLY black.
 
2013-12-22 09:54:23 AM  

HighlanderRPI: [shechive.files.wordpress.com image 400x400]


I have the weirdest wide-on right now.
 
2013-12-22 09:54:44 AM  

Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps


Uh... Not to nitpick here, Frank, but where exactly did they say they were campaigning for gay rights? Does everything you do as a straight man (I assume from this silly comment) reflect on heterosexual rights? Because damn, by that standard all the dead beat dads, wife beaters, child killing parents of the world have damn sure made sure your straight rights and married rights should all be taken away.

These guys are just being who they are, not trying to campaign for or get additional recognition except as anything other than their dance group. I assure you if a straight guy wanted to do the performance and dress the way they do he'd be more than welcome.

As for the "no one wants to see that" guy.... I don't want to see slutty ass cheerleaders acting like whores every time I watch football, but I don't biatch about it and start screaming about "OMG THE CHILDREN, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"

Which also brings up my last point. All of this bullshiat about it being a "Childrens Parade" - this parade is a parade for the town, NOT a "Children's Parade" a google search shows just as many if not more adults than children at the parade over the years - and a closer look shows some pretty slutty elf outfits. On white women.

I've put up with softcore straight porn being blasted at me for 27 years through cheerleaders, tv, movies, etc because it's "normal" and "what's expected" or "what most people want/expect" and quite frankly even though I don't find these femenine guys attractive, I think it's about time it happened.
#1 Because straight white males aren't the only people in the world.
#2 and more importantly though, payback's a biach. Feel the burn.
 
2013-12-22 09:56:00 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Lackofname: For those who DRTFA, these guys were Invited by the parade organizers, who apparently didn't look up what kind of dance group this was, watch any youtube videos of their performance, or anything.

AverageAmericanGuy: Warlordtrooper: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.

Sure, but we men got the better end of that deal. Are these guys fighting for the right of men to prance around like little sexpots? Because 1) that's already our right and 2) no one wants to see that, bro.

I wager the amount of people who want to see it are equal to the amount who want to see scantily clad women.

At the parade, or in general? Because if you're talking in general, I'd take that bet.


Yeah I should have specified AT A PARADE.
 
2013-12-22 09:56:29 AM  
It seems to me like they just trying to make a political point. Showing your gay pride with sexually suggestive dance moves at a Christmas parade in Alabama meant for children, then when people get offended they can say, well you wouldn't be upset if we were women?

I know it's easier to side with the gays in this story, because someone will call you a bigot if you don't. Double bigot in fact, because they are black also.

Still it was a cheap political point.
 
2013-12-22 09:58:09 AM  
Gay culture is a lot like throwing paint at a wall. Sometimes you get sillyness like this, sometimes you get a priceless work of art like brunch.
 
2013-12-22 09:58:10 AM  

Lackofname: AverageAmericanGuy: Lackofname: For those who DRTFA, these guys were Invited by the parade organizers, who apparently didn't look up what kind of dance group this was, watch any youtube videos of their performance, or anything.

AverageAmericanGuy: Warlordtrooper: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.

Sure, but we men got the better end of that deal. Are these guys fighting for the right of men to prance around like little sexpots? Because 1) that's already our right and 2) no one wants to see that, bro.

I wager the amount of people who want to see it are equal to the amount who want to see scantily clad women.

At the parade, or in general? Because if you're talking in general, I'd take that bet.

Yeah I should have specified AT A PARADE.


I'd still take that bet, especially if we are defining 'scantily clad' as the level of clothing these guys are wearing.
 
2013-12-22 09:58:32 AM  
Nothing.
 
2013-12-22 09:58:48 AM  

brax33: Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps

Uh... Not to nitpick here, Frank, but where exactly did they say they were campaigning for gay rights? Does everything you do as a straight man (I assume from this silly comment) reflect on heterosexual rights? Because damn, by that standard all the dead beat dads, wife beaters, child killing parents of the world have damn sure made sure your straight rights and married rights should all be taken away.

These guys are just being who they are, not trying to campaign for or get additional recognition except as anything other than their dance group. I assure you if a straight guy wanted to do the performance and dress the way they do he'd be more than welcome.

As for the "no one wants to see that" guy.... I don't want to see slutty ass cheerleaders acting like whores every time I watch football, but I don't biatch about it and start screaming about "OMG THE CHILDREN, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"

Which also brings up my last point. All of this bullshiat about it being a "Childrens Parade" - this parade is a parade for the town, NOT a "Children's Parade" a google search shows just as many if not more adults than children at the parade over the years - and a closer look shows some pretty slutty elf outfits. On white women.

I've put up with softcore straight porn being blasted at me for 27 years through cheerleaders, tv, movies, etc because it's "normal" and "what's expected" or "what most people want/expect" and quite frankly even though I don't find these femenine guys attractive, I think it's about time it happened.
#1 Because straight white males aren't the only people in the world.
#2 and more importantly though, payback's a biach. Feel the burn.


It is estimated that gay people are only about 5% of the population. Sorry, I like you guys, but you're a fringe group despite what TV and Hollywood would like to suggest.  What you don't like to see really is "normal" or at least what the vast majority of people want to see.

As far as your #2?  Schadenfreude is a poor tool to teach tolerance and acceptance.
 
2013-12-22 09:58:53 AM  
Those guys seem fun.

I would like to go to a holiday-themed party with them.
 
2013-12-22 09:59:09 AM  

trevzie: It seems to me like they just trying to make a political point. Showing your gay pride with sexually suggestive dance moves at a Christmas parade in Alabama meant for children, then when people get offended they can say, well you wouldn't be upset if we were women?

I know it's easier to side with the gays in this story, because someone will call you a bigot if you don't. Double bigot in fact, because they are black also.

Still it was a cheap political point.


They didn't invite themselves.
 
2013-12-22 09:59:30 AM  

NathanAllen: Gay culture is a lot like throwing paint at a wall. Sometimes you get sillyness like this, sometimes you get a priceless work of art like brunch.


The gays invented brunch?

I may have to reconsider my planned spate of hate crimes.
 
2013-12-22 09:59:41 AM  
Giant brass balls + tights best combination.

That said, bravo.
 
2013-12-22 10:00:43 AM  
Oh, yay.

Another case of "Let's do something mildly inappropriate for free attention, and then feign surprise people are talking about us, and milk the guilt of everyone for an extra few minutes of attention, all the while hoping no-one notices how terrible we are."
 
2013-12-22 10:02:00 AM  

MrHappyRotter: So, these presumably gay and black men should learn their place. Got it.


Oh Jesus Christ!  You know that's not what I meant, knock it off!

There is a time and place for everything in life.  Is it appropriate to tell dick jokes while burring grandma?  No!  Is it appropriate to have scantily clad folks, regardless of gender, dancing around "in a suggestive manner" at a children's parade?  Nope!
 
2013-12-22 10:03:51 AM  

AngryDragon: brax33: Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps

Uh... Not to nitpick here, Frank, but where exactly did they say they were campaigning for gay rights? Does everything you do as a straight man (I assume from this silly comment) reflect on heterosexual rights? Because damn, by that standard all the dead beat dads, wife beaters, child killing parents of the world have damn sure made sure your straight rights and married rights should all be taken away.

These guys are just being who they are, not trying to campaign for or get additional recognition except as anything other than their dance group. I assure you if a straight guy wanted to do the performance and dress the way they do he'd be more than welcome.

As for the "no one wants to see that" guy.... I don't want to see slutty ass cheerleaders acting like whores every time I watch football, but I don't biatch about it and start screaming about "OMG THE CHILDREN, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"

Which also brings up my last point. All of this bullshiat about it being a "Childrens Parade" - this parade is a parade for the town, NOT a "Children's Parade" a google search shows just as many if not more adults than children at the parade over the years - and a closer look shows some pretty slutty elf outfits. On white women.

I've put up with softcore straight porn being blasted at me for 27 years through cheerleaders, tv, movies, etc because it's "normal" and "what's expected" or "what most people want/expect" and quite frankly even though I don't find these femenine guys attractive, I think it's about time it happened.
#1 Because straight white males aren't the only people in the world.
#2 and more importantly though, payback's a biach. Feel the burn.

It is estimated that gay people are only about 5% of the population. Sorry, I like you guys, but you're a fringe group despite what TV and Hollywood would like to suggest.  What you don't like to see really is "normal" or at least what ...


Because women would never want to see attractive men, closeted people never lie, non-scientific studeis are always right, and bisexual men never count? Is that what you're saying here?

Even still, assuming your 5% number is correct, (I assure you it's not.) this is like saying "ban Hawaiians from dancing in parades, they're only 1% of the world population! Gross! No one else wants to see it!"
 
2013-12-22 10:04:56 AM  

trevzie: It seems to me like they just trying to make a political point. Showing your gay pride with sexually suggestive dance moves at a Christmas parade in Alabama meant for children, then when people get offended they can say, well you wouldn't be upset if we were women?

I know it's easier to side with the gays in this story, because someone will call you a bigot if you don't.


They may also call you a bigot for assuming the dancers are gay.

/unless you were blowing them and have first hand knowledge?
 
2013-12-22 10:06:05 AM  

Relatively Obscure: trevzie: It seems to me like they just trying to make a political point. Showing your gay pride with sexually suggestive dance moves at a Christmas parade in Alabama meant for children, then when people get offended they can say, well you wouldn't be upset if we were women?

I know it's easier to side with the gays in this story, because someone will call you a bigot if you don't. Double bigot in fact, because they are black also.

Still it was a cheap political point.

They didn't invite themselves.


They also did not confirm whether or not with the organizers that their little routine was appropriate for a farking Children's Parade!
 
2013-12-22 10:08:21 AM  
brax33:
#1 Because straight white males aren't the only people in the world.

Do you really believe that only straight white males are offended by this
?
Sweet.
 
2013-12-22 10:09:00 AM  
We got it. You are gay. No need to make a fool of yourself.
 
2013-12-22 10:09:08 AM  

jedikinkoid: Giant brass balls + tights best combination.

That said, bravo.


Ugh... that was supposed to be "Giant brass balls + tights != best combination, but using angle brackets. You live, you learn.
 
2013-12-22 10:09:09 AM  

Endive Wombat: MrHappyRotter: So, these presumably gay and black men should learn their place. Got it.

Oh Jesus Christ!  You know that's not what I meant, knock it off!

There is a time and place for everything in life.  Is it appropriate to tell dick jokes while burring grandma?  No!  Is it appropriate to have scantily clad folks, regardless of gender, dancing around "in a suggestive manner" at a children's parade?  Nope!


Are we dressing grandma up as Aaron Burr or something?
 
2013-12-22 10:10:07 AM  
I see the PC Police is in here trying to squash our rights again. Whatever happened to freedom of speech?
 
2013-12-22 10:10:15 AM  

wellreadneck: brax33:
#1 Because straight white males aren't the only people in the world.

Do you really believe that only straight white males are offended by this?
Sweet.


No but do you believe that only gay males are NOT offended by this? I assure you some women most certainly enjoyed it.
 
2013-12-22 10:10:24 AM  

Endive Wombat: Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps

THIS 100%!!!!!

When you say "Gay man" it should not conjure up these dudes as a typical stereotype.  The what I am calling "establishment gay-rights movement" is fighting VERY hard in shedding itself of this stereotypical "look" and these guys are not helping.

Personally I see this as a setback, and nothing more than attention whoring at its worst.


Assimiliationist whores.
 
2013-12-22 10:10:59 AM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Endive Wombat: MrHappyRotter: So, these presumably gay and black men should learn their place. Got it.

Oh Jesus Christ!  You know that's not what I meant, knock it off!

There is a time and place for everything in life.  Is it appropriate to tell dick jokes while burring grandma?  No!  Is it appropriate to have scantily clad folks, regardless of gender, dancing around "in a suggestive manner" at a children's parade?  Nope!

Are we dressing grandma up as Aaron Burr or something?


I was just hoping "burring" isn't the new slang for some variation of sex act.
 
2013-12-22 10:11:44 AM  
I'm pretty sure the children who saw these guys dance are not going to be needing therapy. Some of the adults commenting on the event, however, do.
Including a couple ITT.
 
2013-12-22 10:11:51 AM  

Relatively Obscure: Endive Wombat: How about it is a children's parade and tasteful attire should be the norm, no matter the gender???

[www.x69twisted.com image 517x777]

Oh God!  Shield your eyes, children!  How'd this garbage get on our television?!


I think your "analogy"is a little weak to say the least.  They're aren't homosexual men dressed up making sexual innuendo on the sidelines.  If they want to have a gay pride Holiday parade, I am fine with that.

/BTW, saying a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader "garbage" is just foolish.
 
2013-12-22 10:12:11 AM  

BizarreMan: I've seen women doing that type of routine in parades.  Nobody seemed to mind.  Hell last parade I went to there was a troupe of girls, maybe aged 7-16 doing it.  Yes, highly inappropriate.


I am for marriage equality and I fully support gay rights, however a Christmas parade is not the place for this type of routine.

Doesn't matter if it's women, men etc (especially young girls).
 
2013-12-22 10:14:16 AM  

jedikinkoid: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Endive Wombat: MrHappyRotter: So, these presumably gay and black men should learn their place. Got it.

Oh Jesus Christ!  You know that's not what I meant, knock it off!

There is a time and place for everything in life.  Is it appropriate to tell dick jokes while burring grandma?  No!  Is it appropriate to have scantily clad folks, regardless of gender, dancing around "in a suggestive manner" at a children's parade?  Nope!

Are we dressing grandma up as Aaron Burr or something?

I was just hoping "burring" isn't the new slang for some variation of sex act.


If it's a sex act, I fail to see how dick jokes are inappropriate.
 
2013-12-22 10:14:30 AM  

Rapmaster2000: I see the PC Police is in here trying to squash our rights again. Whatever happened to freedom of speech?


I don't see the government stopping you from posting. Your freedom of speech is just fine.

In fact ... you clearly have freedom of whining.
 
2013-12-22 10:14:53 AM  
well, what did you expect to happen at the Semen Christmas parade?
 
2013-12-22 10:15:52 AM  

lackadaisicalfreakshow: "Four gay black guys dress up in revealing Santa outfits and performed in an Alabama Christmas parade, thrusting their hips at spectators. Go on, guess what happened"

They froze their narrow spandex-wearing asses off? It's freaking December!

/Northerner


It's actually been warm the past few days; you can see quite a few spectators wearing t-shirts as well.
 
2013-12-22 10:16:17 AM  
A bowel movement is nothing to be ashamed of. It's a completely natural and necessary bodily function. And I sincerely enjoy a leisurely, healthy one. It's just me being me. And yet, there are times and places where it's more appropriate than others.
 
2013-12-22 10:17:26 AM  

Endive Wombat: MrHappyRotter: So, these presumably gay and black men should learn their place. Got it.

Oh Jesus Christ!  You know that's not what I meant, knock it off!

There is a time and place for everything in life.  Is it appropriate to tell dick jokes while burring grandma?  No!  Is it appropriate to have scantily clad folks, regardless of gender, dancing around "in a suggestive manner" at a children's parade?  Nope!


Oh FFS...it's a "Christmas" parade for everyone in town. It's not just a "childrens'" parade. The only folks who seem to be clutching their pearls over this are a bunch of adults who are (mostly) vicariously butthurt because they read about it the paper or on Fark. Also, I don't see a single GD thing about any kid being offended or traumatized by the dancers. No need to project your issues on them.
 
2013-12-22 10:18:00 AM  
Whatever happened to free speech? These parade organizers should of read the constitution. #istandwithgayblacksanta
 
2013-12-22 10:19:28 AM  

Theaetetus: trevzie: It seems to me like they just trying to make a political point. Showing your gay pride with sexually suggestive dance moves at a Christmas parade in Alabama meant for children, then when people get offended they can say, well you wouldn't be upset if we were women?

I know it's easier to side with the gays in this story, because someone will call you a bigot if you don't.

They may also call you a bigot for assuming the dancers are gay.

/unless you were blowing them and have first hand knowledge?


'Four gay black guys dress up in revealing Santa outfits and performed in an Alabama Christmas parade, thrusting their hips at spectators. Go on, guess what happened'


Stay classy.scienceblogs.com
 
2013-12-22 10:19:52 AM  

Farking Canuck: Rapmaster2000: I see the PC Police is in here trying to squash our rights again. Whatever happened to freedom of speech?

I don't see the government stopping you from posting. Your freedom of speech is just fine.

In fact ... you clearly have freedom of whining.


I'm just saying that we could do whatever we wanted in this country until you lib fascists got involved. Thomas Jefferson is probably petting a crying eagle in his grave!
 
2013-12-22 10:21:06 AM  
Honestly, the outrage really boils down to one simple sentence:
It's all fun and games until someone finds something 'immoral' attractive and they begin to question their sexuality.

And to be fair in Alabama (I grew up in South GA which isn't much different.) not only is the 'gay' immoral, so is the feelings whoever, men, women, unichs, get about people outside of their own race. Leave the city down here and interracial couples get it worse than gay couples sometimes.
 
2013-12-22 10:21:40 AM  
There are a few people in this thread who are being suspiciously vocal in their complaints./also in what way is comparing what these guys did to cheerleaders not an apt comparison?
 
2013-12-22 10:22:45 AM  

Voiceofreason01: There are a few people in this thread who are being suspiciously vocal in their complaints./also in what way is comparing what these guys did to cheerleaders not an apt comparison?


Because, that's why.
 
2013-12-22 10:28:35 AM  
Everyone who saw these dancers live probably saw them for no more than 30 seconds as they moved down the route. We are a piss poor nation if 30 seconds of gay guys in tights is that unsettling to people. This is a nation that used to bury infants regularly from now commonly treated maladies, and now it can't watch 4 gay dudes for 30 seconds?
 
2013-12-22 10:30:30 AM  
Oh I love a flame war on a Sunday morning.

Wait...that's a bad pun. Sorry. You all crack me up though. Thanks for the entertainment.

Now go back to watching honey booboo
 
2013-12-22 10:31:19 AM  

Endive Wombat: They also did not confirm whether or not with the organizers that their little routine was appropriate for a farking Children's Parade!


If only the organizers could have looked into them, somehow.
 
2013-12-22 10:32:30 AM  

JohnnyRebel88: I think your "analogy"is a little weak to say the least. They're aren't homosexual men dressed up making sexual innuendo on the sidelines.


I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here.  Could you clarify?  It's early for me.
 
2013-12-22 10:32:33 AM  
www.moviestillsdb.com


Whatever, back freckles!
 
2013-12-22 10:32:37 AM  

parkerlewis: My guess was that they got shot or arrested.  Looks like I guessed wrong.  So what DID happen, then?


This was exactly my thought from the headline.
 
2013-12-22 10:32:44 AM  

brax33: wellreadneck: brax33:
#1 Because straight white males aren't the only people in the world.

Do you really believe that only straight white males are offended by this?
Sweet.

No but do you believe that only gay males are NOT offended by this? I assure you some women most certainly enjoyed it.


I'm sure some women had no problem dragging the kids along to see Magic Mike, doesn't change the fact that some things, like community Christmas parades, are expected to be family friendly.
 
2013-12-22 10:32:50 AM  

brax33: Honestly, the outrage really boils down to one simple sentence:
It's all fun and games until someone finds something 'immoral' attractive and they begin to question their sexuality.

And to be fair in Alabama (I grew up in South GA which isn't much different.) not only is the 'gay' immoral, so is the feelings whoever, men, women, unichs, get about people outside of their own race. Leave the city down here and interracial couples get it worse than gay couples sometimes.


My family on my fathers side is from GA and are very... traditional. Not robe-wearing Democrat traditional but in the sense to remind me to stay with a nice white girl kinda traditional.

Honestly I could care less. Your rights end where my feelings begin.. I figure this goes both ways.
 
2013-12-22 10:35:37 AM  
I figured they would have been beaten to death so...progress?
 
2013-12-22 10:36:20 AM  
freedom of speech only applies to speech i want to hear
 
2013-12-22 10:36:35 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: I figured they would have been beaten to death so...progress?


Yeah, really, not much happened.  They performed.  Some people complained.  No big deal all around.
 
2013-12-22 10:37:33 AM  

Penoatle: Your rights end where my feelings begin.


I really hope this was meant as a parody of much of what's wrong with America.
 
2013-12-22 10:38:15 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: I figured they would have been beaten to death so...progress?


Not really. You seem to believe pretty horrible stereotypes about people from Alabama.

One step forward, two steps back.
 
2013-12-22 10:38:44 AM  
Time and place for everything boys, and a Christmas parade is not the time to flaunt your gayness in everyones face, and you knew that.

/Nice trolling though.
 
2013-12-22 10:39:52 AM  
I'll be outraged at these guys for being who they are just as soon as A&E gives them a show
 
2013-12-22 10:40:14 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: You seem to believe pretty horrible stereotypes about people from Alabama.

One step forward, two steps back.


Stereotypes? People have actually been lynched in Alabama for much less.
 
2013-12-22 10:41:49 AM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Time and place for everything boys, and a Christmas parade is not the time to flaunt your gayness in everyones face, and you knew that.

/Nice trolling though.


This.

Since the left wants to criminalize being offended, maybe the should look at their own.
 
2013-12-22 10:42:32 AM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Time and place for everything boys, and a Christmas parade is not the time to flaunt your gayness in everyones face, and you knew that.


When would you like the gays to flaunt their gayness in your face, specifically?  Maybe there can be a party.
 
2013-12-22 10:42:59 AM  

Endive Wombat: Warlordtrooper: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.

How about it is a children's parade and tasteful attire should be the norm, no matter the gender???


Whoah now, hey there. You just take your well- reasoned common sense suggestion right on outta here. We'll have none of that!
 
2013-12-22 10:44:41 AM  
Hmmm... Without reading the article I'm going to guess something that has to do with this guy?


suyts.files.wordpress.com

/he was a sad panda of some sort?
 
2013-12-22 10:45:05 AM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Time and place for everything boys, and a Christmas parade is not the time to flaunt your gayness in everyones face, and you knew that.

/Nice trolling though.


Wait, why not?
 
2013-12-22 10:45:42 AM  

Thunderpipes: Bit'O'Gristle: Time and place for everything boys, and a Christmas parade is not the time to flaunt your gayness in everyones face, and you knew that.

/Nice trolling though.

This.

Since the left wants to criminalize being offended, maybe the should look at their own.


If you're offended by a person's existence and participation in an activity, just kill yourself.
 
2013-12-22 10:46:32 AM  
You had to look at some gay dude for 2 minutes in a parade?

images.sodahead.com

/seen dudes dressed in more risque outfits shopping for underwear and swimsuits online
 
2013-12-22 10:46:40 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Bit'O'Gristle: Time and place for everything boys, and a Christmas parade is not the time to flaunt your gayness in everyones face, and you knew that.

/Nice trolling though.

Wait, why not?


Don't you know being gay is only allowed during Pride parades? The rest of the time, they should just shut up and be straight like normal people.
 
2013-12-22 10:48:24 AM  
Someone shot his eye out?

I don't care that these guys are gay, don't care that much about their outfits, but it seems like just maybe they should have thought about what would be considered appropriate for a Christmas parade (they probably did) and dressed accordingly (instead of intentionally doing the exact opposite).
Hell, it wouldn't even be that hard to do a Gay Santa costume that didn't have visible underwear.

/ end if the day though, probably best to just ignore the trolls
 
2013-12-22 10:49:15 AM  
img.fark.net

img.fark.net

Is there a single Fark thread where these aren't relevant?
 
2013-12-22 10:50:29 AM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Time and place for everything boys, and a Christmas parade is not the time to flaunt your gayness in everyones face, and you knew that.

/Nice trolling though.


Yes.  And when one recalls the responses to Miley Cyrus' twerking, which is not substantively different from the kind of routine these guys did, he would be hard-pressed to verify that the complaints are necessarily gay-bashing.  Is it too much to ask for decency in the public square?
 
2013-12-22 10:50:31 AM  

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2013-12-22 10:52:27 AM  

verdigris1: What happened next?
I imagine this.......[img.fark.net image 653x367]


an ak isn't very amurcn.
 
2013-12-22 10:52:59 AM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Time and place for everything boys, and a Christmas parade is not the time to flaunt your gayness in everyones face, and you knew that.

/Nice trolling though.


I know.  I'm just as outraged that these girls are pushing their straightness and ruining childhoods.

larryparkesphotography.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-12-22 10:53:18 AM  

Mr. Right: Is it too much to ask for decency in the public square?


The "decency" line gets drawn in a lot of different places by people.  These guys, for example, aren't dressed MORE scantily than whole metric boatloads of girls or ladies who have paraded before without raising any ire.
 
2013-12-22 10:53:37 AM  
Parades are stupid anyway.
 
2013-12-22 10:53:57 AM  
12349876:

I know.  I'm just as outraged that these girls are pushing their straightness and ruining childhoods.

[larryparkesphotography.files.wordpress.com image 497x330]


Woah, my KID was looking over my shoulder, you asshole.
 
2013-12-22 10:55:23 AM  

Mr. Right: Bit'O'Gristle: Time and place for everything boys, and a Christmas parade is not the time to flaunt your gayness in everyones face, and you knew that.

/Nice trolling though.

Yes.  And when one recalls the responses to Miley Cyrus' twerking, which is not substantively different from the kind of routine these guys did, he would be hard-pressed to verify that the complaints are necessarily gay-bashing.  Is it too much to ask for decency in the public square?


I'm sorry that gays existing offends your delicate sensibilities. You can be a shut-in and avoid reality altogether.
 
2013-12-22 10:55:45 AM  
At every parade that I've ever been to, there came a time to get another drink. This would have been that moment for me. Choice and opportunity are your friends.
 
2013-12-22 10:56:23 AM  

serial_crusher: Someone shot his eye out?

I don't care that these guys are gay, don't care that much about their outfits, but it seems like just maybe they should have thought about what would be considered appropriate for a Christmas parade (they probably did) and dressed accordingly (instead of intentionally doing the exact opposite).
Hell, it wouldn't even be that hard to do a Gay Santa costume that didn't have visible underwear.

/ end if the day though, probably best to just ignore the trolls


They weren't dressed any more scantily than some of the women there. Were the women also being inappropriate? Why aren't you complaining about them too?
 
2013-12-22 10:57:36 AM  
There is a War on Dance in the South.

It's why Southern Baptists are so numerous. It's a Get Out of Dance Lessons Free card.

In about one week the wives will say something like, "Remember that parade. You could probably dance better than those guys." And the husbands' entire excuse for never dancing will be challenged, and he figures it will be the worst, most drunken New Year's Eve ever, and some of it will take place on the dance floor.

He'll just mutter "Shoot me now." under his breath. Out loud, he'll say "But I don't have any short shorts or I hurt my back hanging lights or that hotel ballroom just burned down."
 
2013-12-22 10:58:30 AM  

brax33: Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps

Uh... Not to nitpick here, Frank, but where exactly did they say they were campaigning for gay rights? Does everything you do as a straight man (I assume from this silly comment) reflect on heterosexual rights? Because damn, by that standard all the dead beat dads, wife beaters, child killing parents of the world have damn sure made sure your straight rights and married rights should all be taken away.

These guys are just being who they are, not trying to campaign for or get additional recognition except as anything other than their dance group. I assure you if a straight guy wanted to do the performance and dress the way they do he'd be more than welcome.

As for the "no one wants to see that" guy.... I don't want to see slutty ass cheerleaders acting like whores every time I watch football, but I don't biatch about it and start screaming about "OMG THE CHILDREN, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"

Which also brings up my last point. All of this bullshiat about it being a "Childrens Parade" - this parade is a parade for the town, NOT a "Children's Parade" a google search shows just as many if not more adults than children at the parade over the years - and a closer look shows some pretty slutty elf outfits. On white women.

I've put up with softcore straight porn being blasted at me for 27 years through cheerleaders, tv, movies, etc because it's "normal" and "what's expected" or "what most people want/expect" and quite frankly even though I don't find these femenine guys attractive, I think it's about time it happened.
#1 Because straight white males aren't the only people in the world.
#2 and more importantly though, payback's a biach. Feel the burn.


Nice, very nice. Lots of good stuff there. This. Bravo!
 
2013-12-22 10:58:51 AM  
farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2013-12-22 10:59:58 AM  

BitwiseShift: There is a War on Dance in the South.


Better than a dance war

i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-12-22 11:00:01 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Mr. Right: Bit'O'Gristle: Time and place for everything boys, and a Christmas parade is not the time to flaunt your gayness in everyones face, and you knew that.

/Nice trolling though.

Yes.  And when one recalls the responses to Miley Cyrus' twerking, which is not substantively different from the kind of routine these guys did, he would be hard-pressed to verify that the complaints are necessarily gay-bashing.  Is it too much to ask for decency in the public square?

I'm sorry that gays existing offends your delicate sensibilities. You can be a shut-in and avoid reality altogether.


I do not need to see anyone gay or straight, ass out, prancing around in public.  It is much as my right to demand a sense of public decency.

I am the most liberal cat in the world, but as much as I would like to go to the store in my bvd's, I might think that putting my pants on is much more a boon to the greater good than my own personal agenda that everyone should see my mooseknuckle.
 
2013-12-22 11:01:33 AM  

AngryDragon: brax33: Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps

Uh... Not to nitpick here, Frank, but where exactly did they say they were campaigning for gay rights? Does everything you do as a straight man (I assume from this silly comment) reflect on heterosexual rights? Because damn, by that standard all the dead beat dads, wife beaters, child killing parents of the world have damn sure made sure your straight rights and married rights should all be taken away.

These guys are just being who they are, not trying to campaign for or get additional recognition except as anything other than their dance group. I assure you if a straight guy wanted to do the performance and dress the way they do he'd be more than welcome.

As for the "no one wants to see that" guy.... I don't want to see slutty ass cheerleaders acting like whores every time I watch football, but I don't biatch about it and start screaming about "OMG THE CHILDREN, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"

Which also brings up my last point. All of this bullshiat about it being a "Childrens Parade" - this parade is a parade for the town, NOT a "Children's Parade" a google search shows just as many if not more adults than children at the parade over the years - and a closer look shows some pretty slutty elf outfits. On white women.

I've put up with softcore straight porn being blasted at me for 27 years through cheerleaders, tv, movies, etc because it's "normal" and "what's expected" or "what most people want/expect" and quite frankly even though I don't find these femenine guys attractive, I think it's about time it happened.
#1 Because straight white males aren't the only people in the world.
#2 and more importantly though, payback's a biach. Feel the burn.

It is estimated that gay people are only about 5% of the population. Sorry, I like you guys, but you're a fringe group despite what TV and Hollywood would like to suggest.  What you don't like to see really is "normal" or at least what ...


All straight people like to look at scantily clad women?  Because I'm straight, and oddly enough, I prefer looking at men.

I know it's hard to remember that women are people and not just things to look at sometimes.
 
2013-12-22 11:03:34 AM  

theflatline: I do not need to see anyone gay or straight, ass out, prancing around in public. It is much as my right to demand a sense of public decency.


Their asses aren't out.  You're safe.
 
2013-12-22 11:03:56 AM  
Being deliberately provocative and clutching your pearls when people are offended is the definition of disingenuous. Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance. These guys are attention whores with the brains of 12 year old girls.
 
2013-12-22 11:04:17 AM  

theflatline: I do not need to see anyone gay or straight, ass out, prancing around in public.  It is much as my right to demand a sense of public decency.


No it isn't. You don't get to pick and choose which speech you find acceptable. That's not how the first amendment works.
 
2013-12-22 11:05:36 AM  

MJMaloney187: Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance


It 100% is. Why wouldn't it be? You're basically saying that the gays have no right to be in public because people don't like it.
 
2013-12-22 11:06:15 AM  
i.perezhilton.com

/The goggles!
//They do nothing!
 
2013-12-22 11:06:24 AM  

MJMaloney187: Being deliberately provocative and clutching your pearls when people are offended is the definition of disingenuous. Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance. These guys are attention whores with the brains of 12 year old girls.


When should four black cross-dressing homosexuals walk down Main Street in Alabama?
 
2013-12-22 11:07:07 AM  
Nothing gets people to treat you with dignity  like acting undignified.
 
2013-12-22 11:07:20 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: I do not need to see anyone gay or straight, ass out, prancing around in public.  It is much as my right to demand a sense of public decency.

No it isn't. You don't get to pick and choose which speech you find acceptable. That's not how the first amendment works.


Unless it's the Duck Dynasty guys
 
2013-12-22 11:08:28 AM  

BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: I do not need to see anyone gay or straight, ass out, prancing around in public.  It is much as my right to demand a sense of public decency.

No it isn't. You don't get to pick and choose which speech you find acceptable. That's not how the first amendment works.

Unless it's the Duck Dynasty guys


If it helps, I wouldn't be surprised and I wouldn't care if these guys were never invited to perform again.
 
2013-12-22 11:08:52 AM  

Mr. Right: Bit'O'Gristle: Time and place for everything boys, and a Christmas parade is not the time to flaunt your gayness in everyones face, and you knew that.

/Nice trolling though.

Yes.  And when one recalls the responses to Miley Cyrus' twerking, which is not substantively different from the kind of routine these guys did, he would be hard-pressed to verify that the complaints are necessarily gay-bashing.  Is it too much to ask for decency in the public square?


DING DING---We have a winner with Mr. Right.

The same people who complain we have over-sexualized culture in general, are creeped out by toddler pageants, make the comparison of these guys to cheerleaders, etc., are missing the point.  There's a time and place for scantily-clad people doing slightly-sexualized dance routines.  Christmas parades aren't one of those places.

/Have never seen the local female cheerleaders half-naked at Christmas parades--they always wear sweatsuits due to the occasion (and the weather up here in Milwaukee).
 
2013-12-22 11:09:03 AM  
This... may not have been the best idea on the part of the dancers. I get the feeling that if they were in San Francisco, where nobody would have batted an eyelash, they wouldn't have done it, but they did it here as some kind of statement.
 
2013-12-22 11:09:56 AM  

Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps


Clearly they should have been acceptable gays. Like that sassy, subservient black fellow on Designing Women
 
2013-12-22 11:10:03 AM  

BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: I do not need to see anyone gay or straight, ass out, prancing around in public.  It is much as my right to demand a sense of public decency.

No it isn't. You don't get to pick and choose which speech you find acceptable. That's not how the first amendment works.

Unless it's the Duck Dynasty guys


The Duck Dynasty guys can say whatever they want. If these guys' employer find a problem with this, fine. But this is a public parade, not the A&E network. Not surprising that you have no idea what the First Amendment is or how it works.
 
2013-12-22 11:10:18 AM  

Relatively Obscure: MJMaloney187: Being deliberately provocative and clutching your pearls when people are offended is the definition of disingenuous. Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance. These guys are attention whores with the brains of 12 year old girls.

When should four black cross-dressing homosexuals walk down Main Street in Alabama?


During a Mardi Gras parade, I would think.
 
2013-12-22 11:11:19 AM  

hasty ambush: Nothing gets people to treat you with dignity  like acting undignified.


Yeah, marching in a parade is so undignified! They should just stay in the closet where they're not enticing you with their gayness.
 
2013-12-22 11:11:52 AM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: They fixed the cable?


came here to suggest this. maybe i watch too much porn.
 
2013-12-22 11:11:55 AM  

MJMaloney187: Relatively Obscure: MJMaloney187: Being deliberately provocative and clutching your pearls when people are offended is the definition of disingenuous. Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance. These guys are attention whores with the brains of 12 year old girls.

When should four black cross-dressing homosexuals walk down Main Street in Alabama?

During a Mardi Gras parade, I would think.


Why is a Mardi Gras parade okay but a Christmas parade not? Freedom of expression doesn't care about holidays.
 
2013-12-22 11:12:45 AM  

Relatively Obscure: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: I do not need to see anyone gay or straight, ass out, prancing around in public.  It is much as my right to demand a sense of public decency.

No it isn't. You don't get to pick and choose which speech you find acceptable. That's not how the first amendment works.

Unless it's the Duck Dynasty guys

If it helps, I wouldn't be surprised and I wouldn't care if these guys were never invited to perform again.


I say let the Duck Dynasty guys parade right next to these guys!

25.media.tumblr.com

Now that would be festive.
 
2013-12-22 11:14:33 AM  

MJMaloney187: Being deliberately provocative and clutching your pearls when people are offended is the definition of disingenuous. Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance. These guys are attention whores with the brains of 12 year old girls.


Is missionary through a hole in a sheet the only position you'll have sex in?

The world isn't just made up of what you define as normal.

img.pandawhale.com
 
2013-12-22 11:17:17 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: I do not need to see anyone gay or straight, ass out, prancing around in public.  It is much as my right to demand a sense of public decency.

No it isn't. You don't get to pick and choose which speech you find acceptable. That's not how the first amendment works.

Unless it's the Duck Dynasty guys

The Duck Dynasty guys can say whatever they want. If these guys' employer find a problem with this, fine. But this is a public parade, not the A&E network. Not surprising that you have no idea what the First Amendment is or how it works.


So nobody rose up in protest over these guys exercising their right to free speech at all?

This has nothing to do with their being "suspended".

If you think the gay guys have a right to march in the parade but don't think the fundies have a right to be fundies, the problem is you.
 
2013-12-22 11:17:43 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: That night when they climbed aboard their wives lots of Alabama men had something to shamefully picture when they closed their eyes?


That's some funny shiat right there.
 
2013-12-22 11:17:44 AM  
First amendment biatches!
 
2013-12-22 11:18:28 AM  
There really is no good counterargument to the fact that women and young girls do this exact same thing, including venues made for families and children, without anyone raising an eyebrow. "Look where they were, they should have known better." Yeah, they shoulda known society only accepts your sexualization if you have boobs or will have boobs someday when you hit puberty. Those pervs!
 
2013-12-22 11:18:48 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: MJMaloney187: Relatively Obscure: MJMaloney187: Being deliberately provocative and clutching your pearls when people are offended is the definition of disingenuous. Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance. These guys are attention whores with the brains of 12 year old girls.

When should four black cross-dressing homosexuals walk down Main Street in Alabama?

During a Mardi Gras parade, I would think.

Why is a Mardi Gras parade okay but a Christmas parade not? Freedom of expression doesn't care about holidays.


Nobody curbed these Marys' freedoms of expression, Pearl Clutcher. What if they showed up like this at you mom's funeral? It was a Christmas parade.
 
2013-12-22 11:19:10 AM  
I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.
 
2013-12-22 11:19:21 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps

Clearly they should have been acceptable gays. Like that sassy, subservient black fellow on Designing Women


Inorite?

This seems to be a one-shot deal, and entirely based on the inattention to detail by the parade organizer. No children got hurt, though there was a little butthurt on the part of some "adults", and they'll all have something to remember for years to come.

But judging by some people's reactions, you'd think they had hired a GG Allin tribute band or something.
 
2013-12-22 11:19:41 AM  

BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: I do not need to see anyone gay or straight, ass out, prancing around in public.  It is much as my right to demand a sense of public decency.

No it isn't. You don't get to pick and choose which speech you find acceptable. That's not how the first amendment works.

Unless it's the Duck Dynasty guys

The Duck Dynasty guys can say whatever they want. If these guys' employer find a problem with this, fine. But this is a public parade, not the A&E network. Not surprising that you have no idea what the First Amendment is or how it works.

So nobody rose up in protest over these guys exercising their right to free speech at all?

This has nothing to do with their being "suspended".

If you think the gay guys have a right to march in the parade but don't think the fundies have a right to be fundies, the problem is you.


No, nobody rose up in protest over these guys exercising their right to free speech at all. A&E suspended the guy before the GQ interview really made it public. Go through every one of the Fark threads and you won't see ANYONE saying that Duck Dynasty doesn't have the right to say whatever stupid sh*t they want. Can you find an article online saying they don't either? I bet you can't. Your entire argument is one big strawman.
 
2013-12-22 11:20:35 AM  

Richard Roma: I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.


No reindeer, then.

You're a farking Scrooge. Seriously. How could you take reindeer out of Christmas?
 
2013-12-22 11:21:08 AM  

Hobodeluxe: First amendment biatches!


I guess I missed the part where they were arrested.
 
2013-12-22 11:21:32 AM  
Children's Xmas parade...Atlanta....

fieldtripswithsue.com
 
2013-12-22 11:21:42 AM  
Their talent agent is named Suzanne Massingill. What a douche'!
 
2013-12-22 11:21:44 AM  

MJMaloney187: Nobody curbed these Marys' freedoms of expression, Pearl Clutcher. What if they showed up like this at you mom's funeral? It was a Christmas parade.


My mom's funeral isn't a public event. A Christmas parade is. You appear to think they should not have been there. Is that not the case?
 
2013-12-22 11:22:32 AM  

MJMaloney187: Hobodeluxe: First amendment biatches!

I guess I missed the part where they were arrested.


YOU are the one arguing that they should not have been allowed to participate. No one said they had to be arrested to have their first amendment rights violated. Barring them from a public event is equally as repressive.
 
2013-12-22 11:22:34 AM  
I was expecting something more... Gene Hackmanee.
 
2013-12-22 11:22:40 AM  

Badmoodman: "Suzanne Massingill, a talent agent in Mobile who advises the Prancing Elites..."

That was some douchey advice she gave them.


She's full of piss and vinegar today.
 
2013-12-22 11:23:13 AM  

jedikinkoid: Penoatle: Your rights end where my feelings begin.

I really hope this was meant as a parody of much of what's wrong with America.


It is. My problem with people is no balance on sides exist and instead of agreeing to disagree, one ALWAYS has to be right. Heck, I am just as guilty of being in the same fruitless pursuit of being "right". I mean I lean there, but will admit that is not always gonna be the proper thing. I believe in balance.
 
2013-12-22 11:25:07 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: MJMaloney187: Relatively Obscure: MJMaloney187: Being deliberately provocative and clutching your pearls when people are offended is the definition of disingenuous. Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance. These guys are attention whores with the brains of 12 year old girls.

When should four black cross-dressing homosexuals walk down Main Street in Alabama?

During a Mardi Gras parade, I would think.

Why is a Mardi Gras parade okay but a Christmas parade not? Freedom of expression doesn't care about holidays.


Actually, my hometown New Orleans, which is probably one of the gayest cities in the world(and has the oldest gay bar in the US) Mardi Gras organizes itself.

Parents bring their kids to see parades Uptown and in Metairie where they know the only scandalous thing they might see is a drunk vomiting.  It is understand those parts of the city are for families.

Now if you want the tits out craziness, then you head down to the French Quarter, where you will see gays and straights alike in full on crazy.  Everyone knows not to bring their kids their.  And it should be no different from an Xmas parade.  Certain events you can expect certain behavior.
 
2013-12-22 11:25:57 AM  
What a bunch of hypocrites. People get their panties in a twist over this, but when Miley Cyrus does a sexualized and inappropriate performance at the Video Music Awards, no one says a damn thing.
 
2013-12-22 11:25:57 AM  
It sounds out of line if there were no cheerleaders or something similar in the parade. If there were, the people are full of sh*t and letting their bias show. Saying it hurts gay rights or isn't dignified isn't true but then again if you're arguing that it was acceptable no matter what, you're incorrect too
 
2013-12-22 11:28:17 AM  

MJMaloney187: Hobodeluxe: First amendment biatches!

I guess I missed the part where they were arrested.


I believe this individual is being facetious. You know, mocking people saying that Chick Fil-A or Duck Dynasty had their 1A rights violated
 
2013-12-22 11:28:24 AM  

MJMaloney187: Relatively Obscure: MJMaloney187: Being deliberately provocative and clutching your pearls when people are offended is the definition of disingenuous. Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance. These guys are attention whores with the brains of 12 year old girls.

When should four black cross-dressing homosexuals walk down Main Street in Alabama?

During a Mardi Gras parade, I would think.


And that's it?  I can walk down main street every single day.
 
2013-12-22 11:30:14 AM  

theflatline: cameroncrazy1984: MJMaloney187: Relatively Obscure: MJMaloney187: Being deliberately provocative and clutching your pearls when people are offended is the definition of disingenuous. Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance. These guys are attention whores with the brains of 12 year old girls.

When should four black cross-dressing homosexuals walk down Main Street in Alabama?

During a Mardi Gras parade, I would think.

Why is a Mardi Gras parade okay but a Christmas parade not? Freedom of expression doesn't care about holidays.

Actually, my hometown New Orleans, which is probably one of the gayest cities in the world(and has the oldest gay bar in the US) Mardi Gras organizes itself.

Parents bring their kids to see parades Uptown and in Metairie where they know the only scandalous thing they might see is a drunk vomiting.  It is understand those parts of the city are for families.

Now if you want the tits out craziness, then you head down to the French Quarter, where you will see gays and straights alike in full on crazy.  Everyone knows not to bring their kids their.  And it should be no different from an Xmas parade.  Certain events you can expect certain behavior.


These guys don't appear to be doing anything particularly crazy.  The needle on the meter appears to stop at "odd."
 
2013-12-22 11:30:35 AM  
imageshack.com

Seen pulling the parade float behind them.
 
2013-12-22 11:30:56 AM  
This is a video of the Semmes Christmas  parade from last year.

Pretty boring...  except for the wardrobe malfunction at 4:13.

And inappropriate clothing at 4:40?  And at 10:05?  (youngTaylor Swift is from Semmes apparently...).


And 'dancers' at 12:00.

14:30.  More leg-baring, 'dancing' goodness.

Black girls with bare legs at 18:45.  Geez sisters...something in the water there must sap people of their rhythm...

Dance troup full of young girls showing leg at 21:00.

Beads at 21:45.

Old guys on tractors at 22:20


(Okay, my final observation?  A few groups had females in clothing that showed a lot of leg...  But they weren't dressed as revealingly above the waist as the gay black dudes...  no midriffs, I don't think... Also, nobody was doing anything that could possibly be called 'dancing.'  I could see them doing sexy dance moves, and that being inappropriate. [ they're black guys.  And gay.  That's +2 on the big-schlong scale.  I'm sure their hip-thrusting came along with seeing some snakey outlines].

That being said, the scantily-cladness of the young girls in this thing is kinda creepy).

Also, gay black dudes - workout more.  You're dancers.  WTF's with the belly?
 
2013-12-22 11:31:17 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: serial_crusher: Someone shot his eye out?

I don't care that these guys are gay, don't care that much about their outfits, but it seems like just maybe they should have thought about what would be considered appropriate for a Christmas parade (they probably did) and dressed accordingly (instead of intentionally doing the exact opposite).
Hell, it wouldn't even be that hard to do a Gay Santa costume that didn't have visible underwear.

/ end if the day though, probably best to just ignore the trolls

They weren't dressed any more scantily than some of the women there. Were the women also being inappropriate? Why aren't you complaining about them too?


Shrug, I wasn't there so can't really comment on women who I didn't see. Double standards are still standards however, whether they're fair or not.
 
2013-12-22 11:32:33 AM  

sweatybronson: Also, gay black dudes - workout more. You're dancers. WTF's with the belly?


A couple of them do have a bit of a gut, there.
 
2013-12-22 11:33:00 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: I do not need to see anyone gay or straight, ass out, prancing around in public.  It is much as my right to demand a sense of public decency.

No it isn't. You don't get to pick and choose which speech you find acceptable. That's not how the first amendment works.

Unless it's the Duck Dynasty guys

The Duck Dynasty guys can say whatever they want. If these guys' employer find a problem with this, fine. But this is a public parade, not the A&E network. Not surprising that you have no idea what the First Amendment is or how it works.

So nobody rose up in protest over these guys exercising their right to free speech at all?

This has nothing to do with their being "suspended".

If you think the gay guys have a right to march in the parade but don't think the fundies have a right to be fundies, the problem is you.

No, nobody rose up in protest over these guys exercising their right to free speech at all. A&E suspended the guy before the GQ interview really made it public. Go through every one of the Fark threads and you won't see ANYONE saying that Duck Dynasty doesn't have the right to say whatever stupid sh*t they want. Can you find an article online saying they don't either? I bet you can't. Your entire argument is one big strawman.


You're clutching those pearls so hard there is going to be a dent in them.

If you defend one as freedom of speech, you should be willing to defend the other under the same grounds.

How is it that the ACLU ends up defending the freedom of speech of people whose speech they disagree with? Oh, yea. They aren't hypocrites.
 
2013-12-22 11:33:23 AM  

Relatively Obscure: MJMaloney187: Relatively Obscure: MJMaloney187: Being deliberately provocative and clutching your pearls when people are offended is the definition of disingenuous. Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance. These guys are attention whores with the brains of 12 year old girls.

When should four black cross-dressing homosexuals walk down Main Street in Alabama?

During a Mardi Gras parade, I would think.

And that's it?  I can walk down main street every single day.


Any other time and you're FLAUNTING it in their FACE and they can't handle it!
 
2013-12-22 11:33:42 AM  

theflatline: cameroncrazy1984: MJMaloney187: Relatively Obscure: MJMaloney187: Being deliberately provocative and clutching your pearls when people are offended is the definition of disingenuous. Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance. These guys are attention whores with the brains of 12 year old girls.

When should four black cross-dressing homosexuals walk down Main Street in Alabama?

During a Mardi Gras parade, I would think.

Why is a Mardi Gras parade okay but a Christmas parade not? Freedom of expression doesn't care about holidays.

Actually, my hometown New Orleans, which is probably one of the gayest cities in the world(and has the oldest gay bar in the US) Mardi Gras organizes itself.

Parents bring their kids to see parades Uptown and in Metairie where they know the only scandalous thing they might see is a drunk vomiting.  It is understand those parts of the city are for families.

Now if you want the tits out craziness, then you head down to the French Quarter, where you will see gays and straights alike in full on crazy.  Everyone knows not to bring their kids their.  And it should be no different from an Xmas parade.  Certain events you can expect certain behavior.


True, but they wear just wearing short shorts. If they whipped their junk out, or were dry humping each other then it would be different. Wearing clothes that you'd see at the pool with lipstick is not something to get up in arms about.
 
2013-12-22 11:33:49 AM  

hillary: Richard Roma: I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.


Move to Iraq, then. Need help packing?


Preach that tolerance.
 
2013-12-22 11:35:03 AM  

BullBearMS: You're clutching those pearls so hard there is going to be a dent in them.

If you defend one as freedom of speech, you should be willing to defend the other under the same grounds.


I did. Where did I ever say the Duck Dynasty guy didn't have the right to say what he did? I didn't, and you know it.
 
2013-12-22 11:35:49 AM  

parkerlewis: My guess was that they got shot or arrested.  Looks like I guessed wrong.  So what DID happen, then?


Angry letters, UN-style.
 
2013-12-22 11:35:50 AM  

theflatline: hillary: Richard Roma: I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.


Move to Iraq, then. Need help packing?

Preach that tolerance.


Bigotry deserves no tolerance.
 
2013-12-22 11:36:32 AM  

BullBearMS: They aren't hypocrites.


Just so we're clear here, are you suggesting we shouldn't suffer hypocrites?
 
2013-12-22 11:38:03 AM  

GhostFish: Random members of a minority act in a way we don't like, so let's jump into discussing how this is a problem for the minority and how it justifies peoples negative feelings about them.

Must be nice to be in a constant majority and not have to defend yourself and your cohorts for the tastes and actions of a few. I'm sure you'd love it if someone tried to burden you as a member of white, Christian culture with the actions of WBC or Rush Limbaugh.


Rush Limbaugh had Elton John perform at his wedding. He might be more tolerant than some of the people posting on this thread on Fark.
 
2013-12-22 11:38:15 AM  

Relatively Obscure: BizarreMan: Hell last parade I went to there was a troupe of girls, maybe aged 7-16 doing it.

That's not a parade, that's a felony.


Fap?
 
2013-12-22 11:39:18 AM  
Did everyone miss the part where these guys are trying to get a reality show going?

I know this wasn't in the same league as the balloon boy stunt, but it still seems like their stunt was obviously self promotion.
 
2013-12-22 11:41:09 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Mr. Right: Bit'O'Gristle: Time and place for everything boys, and a Christmas parade is not the time to flaunt your gayness in everyones face, and you knew that.

/Nice trolling though.

Yes.  And when one recalls the responses to Miley Cyrus' twerking, which is not substantively different from the kind of routine these guys did, he would be hard-pressed to verify that the complaints are necessarily gay-bashing.  Is it too much to ask for decency in the public square?

I'm sorry that gays existing offends your delicate sensibilities. You can be a shut-in and avoid reality altogether.


The fact that you would make a comment like that identifies you as the type of gay rights activist who does not want tolerance of gays or equal rights for gays.  You obviously believe that everyone should be gay and that gays, because they are somehow more noble than heterosexuals, deserve more rights and special rights.

The fact that gays exist bothers me not at all.  I have friends and relatives who are gay and we all get along just fine.  I don't want to watch my gay friends dancing like this at a Christmas party any more than I want to watch my brother try to play with his wife's tits at the family reunion while there are hoards of rug-rats running around.

But you can go on being offended since you are obviously a member of the First Church or the Perpetually Aggrieved.  And if my innocuous comments gave you another wafer for your Sacrament of Grievance and gave you one more opportunity to display your irrational intolerance of anyone who isn't a cheerleader for whatever you think the public needs to see, then you're welcome.  But don't count on it as a regular contribution.
 
2013-12-22 11:41:24 AM  

theflatline: hillary: Richard Roma: I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.


Move to Iraq, then. Need help packing?

Preach that tolerance.


Haven't you heard? People who have different opinions than you are hateful bigots and must be eliminated.
 
2013-12-22 11:41:35 AM  

BigBooper: Did everyone miss the part where these guys are trying to get a reality show going?

I know this wasn't in the same league as the balloon boy stunt, but it still seems like their stunt was obviously self promotion.


Since they're some kind of performance group, I imagine that every single time they perform anywhere for anything is some form of promotion for their performance group.  So they can perform.
 
2013-12-22 11:42:12 AM  

rohar: BullBearMS: They aren't hypocrites.

Just so we're clear here, are you suggesting we shouldn't suffer hypocrites?


I'm saying that if you defended the Duck Dynasty guys right to speak their mind but think these gay guys don't have just as much of a right to prance their hearts out, you are a hypocrite, yes.

And vice versa.

rlv.zcache.com
 
2013-12-22 11:42:19 AM  
Nobody got shot, beat, hung, dragged behind a pick up truck?  Sounds like progress to me.
 
2013-12-22 11:42:43 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: hillary: Richard Roma: I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.


Move to Iraq, then. Need help packing?

Preach that tolerance.

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.


Suggesting that a Christmas day parade shouldn't be sexualized is now bigotry? Wow.
 
2013-12-22 11:42:52 AM  
parades are generally made of things people want to see.that is why people watch parades.
should they include things that only a small number if people (if any) would enjoy?
probably not, if you want the parade to be popular.

no, i don't believe it was appropriate, but then I don't believe brazilian fart porn would be appropriate either.
 
2013-12-22 11:43:54 AM  

Mr. Right: The fact that you would make a comment like that identifies you as the type of gay rights activist who does not want tolerance of gays or equal rights for gays.  You obviously believe that everyone should be gay and that gays, because they are somehow more noble than heterosexuals, deserve more rights and special rights.


Please tell me you're joking. Nobody can be that stupid. What "special right" is involved when advocating for the right to march in a parade just like  every other citizen?
 
2013-12-22 11:44:15 AM  

baconbeard: theflatline: hillary: Richard Roma: I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.


Move to Iraq, then. Need help packing?

Preach that tolerance.

Haven't you heard? People who have different opinions than you are hateful bigots and must be eliminated.


And all these people are more than likely Caucasian members of the white male patriarchy who would not know an ethnic or a queer if one bit them on the ass.
 
2013-12-22 11:44:49 AM  

baconbeard: cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: hillary: Richard Roma: I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.


Move to Iraq, then. Need help packing?

Preach that tolerance.

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

Suggesting that a Christmas day parade shouldn't be sexualized is now bigotry? Wow.


Yes, yes it is, because you believe that gays participating in a parade is automatically "sexualizing" it.
 
2013-12-22 11:45:37 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Please tell me you're joking. Nobody can be that stupid. What "special right" is involved when advocating for the right to march in a parade just like every other citizen?


Actually, I think only the people who were invited to march got to march.  Which, of course, these guys were.  Probably not next year, I imagine.
 
2013-12-22 11:45:54 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: hillary: Richard Roma: I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.


Move to Iraq, then. Need help packing?

Preach that tolerance.

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

Suggesting that a Christmas day parade shouldn't be sexualized is now bigotry? Wow.

Yes, yes it is, because you believe that gays participating in a parade is automatically "sexualizing" it.


No, it was the dance.  They gay guys were ok, they could have been in better shape though.
 
2013-12-22 11:47:29 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: hillary: Richard Roma: I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.


Move to Iraq, then. Need help packing?

Preach that tolerance.

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

Suggesting that a Christmas day parade shouldn't be sexualized is now bigotry? Wow.

Yes, yes it is, because you believe that gays participating in a parade is automatically "sexualizing" it.


So they *weren't* wearing sexual revealing clothing and thrusting their loins at the spectators? What article did I read???
 
2013-12-22 11:47:44 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Where did I ever say the Duck Dynasty guy didn't have the right to say what he did?


Where did you say that they did?

I've seen you claim these guys had a right to freedom of expression in this thread:

cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: I do not need to see anyone gay or straight, ass out, prancing around in public. It is much as my right to demand a sense of public decency.

No it isn't. You don't get to pick and choose which speech you find acceptable. That's not how the first amendment works.


Go right ahead and cite yourself saying the same thing in a Duck Dynasty thread.

We'll wait.
 
2013-12-22 11:47:59 AM  

Relatively Obscure: cameroncrazy1984: Please tell me you're joking. Nobody can be that stupid. What "special right" is involved when advocating for the right to march in a parade just like every other citizen?

Actually, I think only the people who were invited to march got to march.  Which, of course, these guys were.  Probably not next year, I imagine.


Well, the point being that it's a public event.
 
2013-12-22 11:48:00 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: hillary: Richard Roma: I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.


Move to Iraq, then. Need help packing?

Preach that tolerance.

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.


That's some good satire of the brainless reactionary you've got there!  It is satire... right?
 
2013-12-22 11:48:38 AM  

BullBearMS: Go right ahead and cite yourself saying the same thing in a Duck Dynasty thread.

We'll wait.


Go back and read it yourself. I said it several times. It's not my fault you built a strawman that you are desperately trying to keep from unraveling.
 
2013-12-22 11:49:02 AM  

Relatively Obscure: Mr. Right: Is it too much to ask for decency in the public square?

The "decency" line gets drawn in a lot of different places by people.  These guys, for example, aren't dressed MORE scantily than whole metric boatloads of girls or ladies who have paraded before without raising any ire.


Dressed, no.  But we could have done without the suggestive dancing.  I'm not a fan of that with women in public (especially where there are guaranteed to be young children around) either.

It is really disturbing to me to watch a 4 year old girl or boy start to dance like this because it's what they see so they mimic it.  There's a reason we don't let pre-adolescents go into strip joints.
 
2013-12-22 11:49:16 AM  

Richard Roma: cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: hillary: Richard Roma: I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.


Move to Iraq, then. Need help packing?

Preach that tolerance.

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

That's some good satire of the brainless reactionary you've got there!  It is satire... right?


Why would you think so? Do you disagree? Should we allow bigotry to go unchecked?
 
2013-12-22 11:50:09 AM  

Richard Roma: cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: hillary: Richard Roma: I don't think there should be any sexualized content in a typical Christmas day parade targeted towards a general audience.


Move to Iraq, then. Need help packing?

Preach that tolerance.

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

That's some good satire of the brainless reactionary you've got there!  It is satire... right?


Part of me hopes it's just trolling, in which case, good job.

Part of me thinks it's sincere, in which case, Sieg Heil!
 
2013-12-22 11:50:20 AM  

Mr. Right: But we could have done without the suggestive dancing.  I'm not a fan of that with women in public (especially where there are guaranteed to be young children around) either.


Your personal beliefs don't get to choose who gets to express freedom of speech.
 
2013-12-22 11:50:55 AM  

baconbeard: Part of me hopes it's just trolling, in which case, good job.

Part of me thinks it's sincere, in which case, Sieg Heil!


Yeah, advocating for free expression is SO fascist...
 
2013-12-22 11:52:01 AM  
Look, you have a right to say that gays are icky, just as much as I have a right to call you a bigot for it.
 
2013-12-22 11:52:06 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: Part of me hopes it's just trolling, in which case, good job.

Part of me thinks it's sincere, in which case, Sieg Heil!

Yeah, advocating for free expression is SO fascist...


"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."
 
2013-12-22 11:52:14 AM  

BullBearMS: rohar: BullBearMS: They aren't hypocrites.

Just so we're clear here, are you suggesting we shouldn't suffer hypocrites?

I'm saying that if you defended the Duck Dynasty guys right to speak their mind but think these gay guys don't have just as much of a right to prance their hearts out, you are a hypocrite, yes.

And vice versa.



Hmm, seems we're in quite a bit of agreement.  Both parties had the right to do what they did/said.  But I'm afraid that's where the similarities end.

You see, the substance is the difference.

On party suggests that they're an openly gay dance group and did things in keeping with what an openly dance group does.

The other party says he's a "Man of god" and a devout Christian, but does the exact opposite of Jesus teachings.  As an example:

Matthew 6
5And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

If praying on a street corner is hypocritical, doing it on national TV must be.

Again, I agree, we must defend all men's rights, and we shouldn't suffer hypocrites.
 
2013-12-22 11:54:12 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: Go right ahead and cite yourself saying the same thing in a Duck Dynasty thread.

We'll wait.

Go back and read it yourself. I said it several times. It's not my fault you built a strawman that you are desperately trying to keep from unraveling.


So you can't.

Hypocrite
 
2013-12-22 11:54:52 AM  

Mr. Right: Dressed, no. But we could have done without the suggestive dancing. I'm not a fan of that with women in public (especially where there are guaranteed to be young children around) either.


Neither am I, in general.  It's just interesting that it's a particular issue for these dudes, since women and high school (or younger) dance clubs can apparently do things like this without even very many raised eyebrows.  At least, based on what dancing from them I've seen (which isn't much, because I'm not particularly interested in watching these guys dance).
 
2013-12-22 11:55:10 AM  

baconbeard: cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: Part of me hopes it's just trolling, in which case, good job.

Part of me thinks it's sincere, in which case, Sieg Heil!

Yeah, advocating for free expression is SO fascist...

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."


Yeah, you've basically got nothing.
 
2013-12-22 11:55:13 AM  

GhostFish: I think Cameron's point is that this kind of thing happens all the time. But it's women who are scantily clad and doing the thrusting. Often it's cheerleaders.

Now it's gay men doing it and suddenly there's a problem. Well, that raises some questions about motive for complaint.


Exactly. As I said before, not a single person complained about Miley Cyrus's VMA performance.
 
2013-12-22 11:55:36 AM  
cameroncrazy1984:

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

That's some good satire of the brainless reactionary you've got there!  It is satire... right?

Why would you think so? Do you disagree? Should we allow bigotry to go unchecked?


What the hell does bigotry have to do with my initial post?  I don't like the idea of sexually suggestive dancing in a Christmas day parade.  Period.

You know, I need these occasional encounters with people like you to remind me that the Teahadist right doesn't have a monopoly on Pants-on-head retardation.
 
2013-12-22 11:56:44 AM  
Hilarity ensued?
 
2013-12-22 11:56:58 AM  

Richard Roma: cameroncrazy1984:

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

That's some good satire of the brainless reactionary you've got there!  It is satire... right?

Why would you think so? Do you disagree? Should we allow bigotry to go unchecked?

What the hell does bigotry have to do with my initial post?  I don't like the idea of sexually suggestive dancing in a Christmas day parade.  Period.

You know, I need these occasional encounters with people like you to remind me that the Teahadist right doesn't have a monopoly on Pants-on-head retardation.


It's a good reminder that bigots come in all shapes, colours, and sexual orientations.
 
2013-12-22 11:57:33 AM  

rohar: On party suggests that they're an openly gay dance group and did things in keeping with what an openly dance group does.

The other party says he's a "Man of god" and a devout Christian, but does the exact opposite of Jesus teachings. As an example:


Your agreement with their interpretations of the imaginary sayings of the imaginary sky being are kind of irrelevant.

Plenty of people don't agree with suggestive dancing by gay males.

Too damn bad for both groups.
 
2013-12-22 11:57:44 AM  

Richard Roma: cameroncrazy1984:

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

That's some good satire of the brainless reactionary you've got there!  It is satire... right?

Why would you think so? Do you disagree? Should we allow bigotry to go unchecked?

What the hell does bigotry have to do with my initial post?  I don't like the idea of sexually suggestive dancing in a Christmas day parade.  Period.

You know, I need these occasional encounters with people like you to remind me that the Teahadist right doesn't have a monopoly on Pants-on-head retardation.


So the famous Rockettes should be removed from the Christmas season?
 
2013-12-22 11:59:01 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Mr. Right: But we could have done without the suggestive dancing.  I'm not a fan of that with women in public (especially where there are guaranteed to be young children around) either.

Your personal beliefs don't get to choose who gets to express freedom of speech.


Actually, in large-enough groups, they kinda do. Most areas draw a line somewhere. Even in San Francisco, having sex on the sidewalk will get you arrested. Wherever the morality-line is drawn, it exists somewhere and is a result of the combined opinions of many people placing a limit on someone else's freedom of speech.
 
2013-12-22 11:59:37 AM  

BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: Go right ahead and cite yourself saying the same thing in a Duck Dynasty thread.

We'll wait.

Go back and read it yourself. I said it several times. It's not my fault you built a strawman that you are desperately trying to keep from unraveling.

So you can't.

Hypocrite


Boy, you probably should have read all of the threads before you said that:

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2013-12-21 08:21:49 PM
letrole: Rights are Rights. Either you have a right to say what you wish, or you don't.

Did he not say what he wished? Nobody has said he doesn't. He just doesn't have the right to do it without consequence.
 
2013-12-22 11:59:46 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Mr. Right: The fact that you would make a comment like that identifies you as the type of gay rights activist who does not want tolerance of gays or equal rights for gays.  You obviously believe that everyone should be gay and that gays, because they are somehow more noble than heterosexuals, deserve more rights and special rights.

Please tell me you're joking. Nobody can be that stupid. What "special right" is involved when advocating for the right to march in a parade just like  every other citizen?


You made a tremendous leap when you accused me of being offended that gays exist.  There exists not a shred of evidence to that effect.  So I thought I'd return the favor and assume you're one of those whiny, little, asshats who claim equal rights when what they really want is the same right but twice as many of them and the right to special grievances against anyone who offends their delicate sensibilities.

I don't have a problem with gays or any other group, as long as they are rational, tolerant individuals.  Your comments identify you as someone who possesses  neither criteria.  Sorry you got a bad draw.
 
2013-12-22 12:00:40 PM  

Richard Roma: I don't like the idea of sexually suggestive dancing in a Christmas day parade.  Period.


And that's your opinion. But that doesn't mean you get to force your opinion on others.
 
2013-12-22 12:01:38 PM  

baconbeard: Richard Roma: cameroncrazy1984:

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

That's some good satire of the brainless reactionary you've got there!  It is satire... right?

Why would you think so? Do you disagree? Should we allow bigotry to go unchecked?

What the hell does bigotry have to do with my initial post?  I don't like the idea of sexually suggestive dancing in a Christmas day parade.  Period.

You know, I need these occasional encounters with people like you to remind me that the Teahadist right doesn't have a monopoly on Pants-on-head retardation.

It's a good reminder that bigots come in all shapes, colours, and sexual orientations.


I don't think you understand the definition of "bigotry."
 
2013-12-22 12:01:41 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: Go right ahead and cite yourself saying the same thing in a Duck Dynasty thread.

We'll wait.

Go back and read it yourself. I said it several times. It's not my fault you built a strawman that you are desperately trying to keep from unraveling.

So you can't.

Hypocrite

Boy, you probably should have read all of the threads before you said that:

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2013-12-21 08:21:49 PM
letrole: Rights are Rights. Either you have a right to say what you wish, or you don't.

Did he not say what he wished? Nobody has said he doesn't. He just doesn't have the right to do it without consequence.


Did you just quote yourself?
 
2013-12-22 12:02:22 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: Richard Roma: cameroncrazy1984:

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

That's some good satire of the brainless reactionary you've got there!  It is satire... right?

Why would you think so? Do you disagree? Should we allow bigotry to go unchecked?

What the hell does bigotry have to do with my initial post?  I don't like the idea of sexually suggestive dancing in a Christmas day parade.  Period.

You know, I need these occasional encounters with people like you to remind me that the Teahadist right doesn't have a monopoly on Pants-on-head retardation.

It's a good reminder that bigots come in all shapes, colours, and sexual orientations.

I don't think you understand the definition of "bigotry."


Oh, I think I do.
 
2013-12-22 12:02:34 PM  

GhostFish: Dude, calling for people to behave appropriately for an audience of children is not the same as forcing them to behave in that manner.


It is if you're calling on the government to force them to do so. As far as I am aware, there's no law about wearing shorts in public.
 
2013-12-22 12:02:48 PM  

BullBearMS: rohar: On party suggests that they're an openly gay dance group and did things in keeping with what an openly dance group does.

The other party says he's a "Man of god" and a devout Christian, but does the exact opposite of Jesus teachings. As an example:

Your agreement with their interpretations of the imaginary sayings of the imaginary sky being are kind of irrelevant.

Plenty of people don't agree with suggestive dancing by gay males.

Too damn bad for both groups.


You'll notice, I didn't say I agree or disagree with Christianity as a whole.  Only that Phil supposedly does.  If he is a Christian, I would expect his behavior to be somewhat Christian if he is to use Christianity as a defense for his socially unacceptable comments.  He doesn't so he can't.

Again, I support the freedom of speech for both of these incidents.  I also see one of them, plainly, as a hypocrite.  His own religion says as much.

On the other hand, we have a gay dance troupe being a gay dance troupe.  They did exactly what was expected and what they always do.

You see the difference?
 
2013-12-22 12:02:58 PM  
The local "citizens council" offered to set up Christmas decorations in their front yard?


southfort.net
 
2013-12-22 12:03:25 PM  
They're actually pretty damn good, and the routine is comparable to what I've seen from some cheer squads. Santa #1 didn't do a great job of pulling off the outfit, but that's about it.

/from Alabama
 
2013-12-22 12:03:34 PM  

baconbeard: Oh, I think I do.


You don't appear to, considering that you're calling me a bigot for wanting people to be able to express their first amendment rights in a public event.
 
2013-12-22 12:03:53 PM  
Breaking News!

This just in...some people still uncomfortable with openly ghey expression.

but they gheys will shove it in their faces until they learn to quietly accept it.

someday, it will be perfectly fine to shove fruit up your ass in public. We just need to see it more until we learn to accept it.
 
2013-12-22 12:04:54 PM  

supayoda: They're actually pretty damn good, and the routine is comparable to what I've seen from some cheer squads. Santa #1 didn't do a great job of pulling off the outfit, but that's about it.

/from Alabama


But they were gay! That's automatically sexualized!
 
2013-12-22 12:05:43 PM  

Popular Opinion: Breaking News!

This just in...some people still uncomfortable with openly ghey expression.

but they gheys will shove it in their faces until they learn to quietly accept it.

someday, it will be perfectly fine to shove fruit up your ass in public. We just need to see it more until we learn to accept it.


Hooray for slippery slope arguments!
 
2013-12-22 12:05:46 PM  
Sexualizing an event for children.

So the gay movement is now admitting what so many have claimed?
 
2013-12-22 12:06:42 PM  
So.... over the top LBGT type group performs in Alabama in a children's oriented Christmas parade and they are not harassed but people complain and this is a deal?  Would a Christian group in a gay pride parade in San Fran be treated better?
 
2013-12-22 12:07:44 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Popular Opinion: Breaking News!

This just in...some people still uncomfortable with openly ghey expression.

but they gheys will shove it in their faces until they learn to quietly accept it.

someday, it will be perfectly fine to shove fruit up your ass in public. We just need to see it more until we learn to accept it.

Hooray for slippery slope arguments!


i suspected you were secretly bigoted against those that like to put fruit in their butts in public.
suspicions confirmed.
 
2013-12-22 12:08:14 PM  

Popular Opinion: cameroncrazy1984: Popular Opinion: Breaking News!

This just in...some people still uncomfortable with openly ghey expression.

but they gheys will shove it in their faces until they learn to quietly accept it.

someday, it will be perfectly fine to shove fruit up your ass in public. We just need to see it more until we learn to accept it.

Hooray for slippery slope arguments!

i suspected you were secretly bigoted against those that like to put fruit in their butts in public.
suspicions confirmed.


*yawn*

You're boring.
 
2013-12-22 12:09:00 PM  

baconbeard: Did you just quote yourself?


Yes, because he asked me to find a post in a Duck Dynasty thread where I defended their first-amendment rights. At least make an attempt to read the entire post before you ask stupid questions.
 
2013-12-22 12:09:16 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: Oh, I think I do.

You don't appear to, considering that you're calling me a bigot for wanting people to be able to express their first amendment rights in a public event.


You're a bigot because you said that we should not tolerate someone who expressed an opinion that differed from yours (i.e. that Santa Clause parades should not be sexualized events).
 
2013-12-22 12:09:23 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.


THIS.

Why should children be exosed to this? Does the average Farker this this is good for them? Does the avege Farker/Lib/Libertarian allow their children to surf porn and watch Skinemax?

Homosexuals demand that they be respected and that "others" should stay out of their bedrooms. Then, once they shove their sexuality down society's throat, they get whiney because someone disapproves.


/You want your privacy respected, keep it private
 
2013-12-22 12:09:56 PM  

CivicMindedFive: So.... over the top LBGT type group performs in Alabama in a children's oriented Christmas parade and they are not harassed but people complain and this is a deal?  Would a Christian group in a gay pride parade in San Fran be treated better?


Probably.  You realize there are a LOT of self identified Christian LGBT right?

/Take most of the Catholic clergy for instance...
 
2013-12-22 12:10:14 PM  

CivicMindedFive: Would a Christian group in a gay pride parade in San Fran be treated better?


Why wouldn't they be? I'm sure there are one or two, actually.
 
2013-12-22 12:10:42 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Popular Opinion: cameroncrazy1984: Popular Opinion: Breaking News!

This just in...some people still uncomfortable with openly ghey expression.

but they gheys will shove it in their faces until they learn to quietly accept it.

someday, it will be perfectly fine to shove fruit up your ass in public. We just need to see it more until we learn to accept it.

Hooray for slippery slope arguments!

i suspected you were secretly bigoted against those that like to put fruit in their butts in public.
suspicions confirmed.

*yawn*

You're boring.


From your profile:

"Molson is pretty good."

Your opinion is worthless. I've wasted my time.
 
2013-12-22 12:11:14 PM  

baconbeard: You're a bigot because you said that we should not tolerate someone who expressed an opinion that differed from yours (i.e. that Santa Clause parades should not be sexualized events).


No, we should not tolerate bigoted views. The idea that a gay dance troupe automatically sexualizes an event and a bunch of scantily-clad females don't is ridiculous.
 
2013-12-22 12:11:50 PM  

baconbeard: From your profile:

"Molson is pretty good."

Your opinion is worthless. I've wasted my time.


Yeah, like I care about someone who doesn't actually read posts that he responds to.
 
2013-12-22 12:12:08 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: You're a bigot because you said that we should not tolerate someone who expressed an opinion that differed from yours (i.e. that Santa Clause parades should not be sexualized events).

No, we should not tolerate bigoted views. The idea that a gay dance troupe automatically sexualizes an event and a bunch of scantily-clad females don't is ridiculous.


Except that's not what he said.
 
2013-12-22 12:12:19 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: supayoda: They're actually pretty damn good, and the routine is comparable to what I've seen from some cheer squads. Santa #1 didn't do a great job of pulling off the outfit, but that's about it.

/from Alabama

But they were gay! That's automatically sexualized!


How is that any different that what you're doing? Granted, you may know more of Alabama's gay community than the couple of dozen I know, but they (both black and white) are some of the most conservative gay friends I have. Are these guys really representational of that community? There really should be a vote before these guys get to carry the banner everyone else has to walk behind.
 
2013-12-22 12:13:15 PM  

Lee451: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

THIS.

Why should children be exosed to this? Does the average Farker this this is good for them? Does the avege Farker/Lib/Libertarian allow their children to surf porn and watch Skinemax?

Homosexuals demand that they be respected and that "others" should stay out of their bedrooms. Then, once they shove their sexuality down society's throat, they get whiney because someone disapproves.


/You want your privacy respected, keep it private


Do you have similar sentiments about the Radio City Rockettes?

i1086.photobucket.com

/definitely not sexualized
 
2013-12-22 12:14:17 PM  

baconbeard: cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: You're a bigot because you said that we should not tolerate someone who expressed an opinion that differed from yours (i.e. that Santa Clause parades should not be sexualized events).

No, we should not tolerate bigoted views. The idea that a gay dance troupe automatically sexualizes an event and a bunch of scantily-clad females don't is ridiculous.

Except that's not what he said.


Why do you care, my opinion is worthless because you don't like a certain kind of beer.
 
2013-12-22 12:14:32 PM  
Relevant song.  Colfax by Kevin Gordon
 
2013-12-22 12:15:04 PM  

wellreadneck: Are these guys really representational of that community? There really should be a vote before these guys get to carry the banner everyone else has to walk behind.


You've got to be kidding.

If not, conservative gays can march in the parade too if they disagree with this troupe.
 
2013-12-22 12:15:14 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: Go right ahead and cite yourself saying the same thing in a Duck Dynasty thread.

We'll wait.

Go back and read it yourself. I said it several times. It's not my fault you built a strawman that you are desperately trying to keep from unraveling.

So you can't.

Hypocrite

Boy, you probably should have read all of the threads before you said that:

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2013-12-21 08:21:49 PM
letrole: Rights are Rights. Either you have a right to say what you wish, or you don't.

Did he not say what he wished? Nobody has said he doesn't. He just doesn't have the right to do it without consequence.


Nice to know that if this story had resulted in gay bashing you would have supported that.
 
2013-12-22 12:15:50 PM  
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"Two snaps up around the world and back snap!"
 
2013-12-22 12:16:29 PM  

BullBearMS: Nice to know that if this story had resulted in gay bashing you would have supported that.


How on earth do you get that from my post? They're obviously seeing consequences from it, are they not?
 
2013-12-22 12:16:38 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: You're a bigot because you said that we should not tolerate someone who expressed an opinion that differed from yours (i.e. that Santa Clause parades should not be sexualized events).

No, we should not tolerate bigoted views. The idea that a gay dance troupe automatically sexualizes an event and a bunch of scantily-clad females don't is ridiculous.

Except that's not what he said.

Why do you care, my opinion is worthless because you don't like a certain kind of beer.


Translation: I was wrong and am unwilling to admit it.
 
2013-12-22 12:17:06 PM  

Lee451: THIS.

Why should children be exosed to this?


I'm not sure what would happen if a kid saw a guy in little shorts dancing.
 
2013-12-22 12:17:36 PM  

Bane of Broone: cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: You're a bigot because you said that we should not tolerate someone who expressed an opinion that differed from yours (i.e. that Santa Clause parades should not be sexualized events).

No, we should not tolerate bigoted views. The idea that a gay dance troupe automatically sexualizes an event and a bunch of scantily-clad females don't is ridiculous.

Except that's not what he said.

Why do you care, my opinion is worthless because you don't like a certain kind of beer.

Translation: I was wrong and am unwilling to admit it.


I never said that, quit putting words in my mouth. He just appears to think that taste in beer translates to every other aspect of a person's opinions.
 
2013-12-22 12:18:51 PM  

Relatively Obscure: Lee451: THIS.

Why should children be exosed to this?

I'm not sure what would happen if a kid saw a guy in little shorts dancing.


They might want to find out where to buy a pair of little shorts?
 
2013-12-22 12:19:26 PM  
I wonder how many people here are also vocal advocates for removing cheerleaders from NFL games as they are "sexualizing" the event and children are likely to be there.
 
2013-12-22 12:21:42 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Bane of Broone: cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: cameroncrazy1984: baconbeard: You're a bigot because you said that we should not tolerate someone who expressed an opinion that differed from yours (i.e. that Santa Clause parades should not be sexualized events).

No, we should not tolerate bigoted views. The idea that a gay dance troupe automatically sexualizes an event and a bunch of scantily-clad females don't is ridiculous.

Except that's not what he said.

Why do you care, my opinion is worthless because you don't like a certain kind of beer.

Translation: I was wrong and am unwilling to admit it.

I never said that, quit putting words in my mouth. He just appears to think that taste in beer translates to every other aspect of a person's opinions.


You're so cute. ^_^
 
2013-12-22 12:22:44 PM  

Bane of Broone: You're so cute. ^_^


Thanks, I assume you've seen my profile picture.
 
2013-12-22 12:23:35 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: Nice to know that if this story had resulted in gay bashing you would have supported that.

How on earth do you get that from my post? They're obviously seeing consequences from it, are they not?


Whatever, hypocritical Mary.

Clutch your pearls some more while you support free speech that you happen to agree with.
 
2013-12-22 12:25:43 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: wellreadneck: Are these guys really representational of that community? There really should be a vote before these guys get to carry the banner everyone else has to walk behind.

You've got to be kidding.

If not, conservative gays can march in the parade too if they disagree with this troupe.


Weak. Where's the qualifier in all your other posts equating this with other gay rights issues?
 
2013-12-22 12:26:34 PM  

BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: Nice to know that if this story had resulted in gay bashing you would have supported that.

How on earth do you get that from my post? They're obviously seeing consequences from it, are they not?

Whatever, hypocritical Mary.

Clutch your pearls some more while you support free speech that you happen to agree with.


I love how I cited evidence completely disproving your assertion, but you have no other option but to keep making the accusation. It's really funny.
 
2013-12-22 12:27:40 PM  

wellreadneck: cameroncrazy1984: wellreadneck: Are these guys really representational of that community? There really should be a vote before these guys get to carry the banner everyone else has to walk behind.

You've got to be kidding.

If not, conservative gays can march in the parade too if they disagree with this troupe.

Weak. Where's the qualifier in all your other posts equating this with other gay rights issues?


What are you talking about? You appear to think that conservative gays have a problem with this dance troupe "representing them" as well. I just pointed out that conservative gay groups have just as much right to express themselves in public as liberals do.
 
2013-12-22 12:29:12 PM  

CivicMindedFive: So.... over the top LBGT type group performs in Alabama in a children's oriented Christmas parade and they are not harassed but people complain and this is a deal?  Would a Christian group in a gay pride parade in San Fran be treated better?


It depends. When I was in SF, I did check out pride and noticed a few groups did set up stands at the plaza near city hall. These are your warm fuzzy people, allies with Christ no matter who you are. However I could imagine flak against not so warm fuzzy christians out there.

Myself? I am a believer but am up and down on many subjects that come up. LGBT does not bother me. I think Science is a good thing and that Evolution is valid. I am also a right-winger but again I try to seperate myself from the current derp overload. I think people can be helped, I think taxing in the right areas is good and I think guns are cool but should be regulated in a way that makes sense.

Am I correct? It depends on who asks and who thinks I may be full of derp. As I said before, I believe in balance.
 
2013-12-22 12:29:38 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I wonder how many people here are also vocal advocates for removing cheerleaders from NFL games as they are "sexualizing" the event and children are likely to be there.


Christ wasn't born on Superbowl Sunday, Hoss. You continue to be deliberately obtuse for the sake of argument. It's sophomoronic. Grow up.
 
2013-12-22 12:29:50 PM  
Miscellaneous thoughts:

So, basically nothing happened. Some old biddies got their panties in a twist and complained. If they hadn't complained about that, they would've complained about something else. They are probably trying to convince their children or grandchildren that they should feel traumatized by what they have seen.

In what little they showed, it looked like the young people were having a good time. The older people amused. I really didn't see anyone throwing towels over their children's heads to shield their eyes as they rushed them to the car.

The people who enjoyed the performance and parade probably went home and thought nothing more of it. Therefore, felt no reason to jump online and tell what a good time they had. People rarely do, it seems.

The group is from Mobile. They perform in and around Mobile all the time, and will continue to do so. People like them, and they will probably be in many Mardi Gras parades in the coming months. Semmes is on the outskirts of Mobile. If anyone says they didn't know what kind of act to expect, they are being... um... disingenuous.

The organizer for the parade invited an all-male group called the Prancing Elites. C'mon... you knew the score. If not, you must do your vetting by way of a veterinarian. And unless that vet was really old, they knew about the Prancing Elites too.
 
2013-12-22 12:29:56 PM  

Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps


They don't seem to get that.
 
2013-12-22 12:32:04 PM  
Well, they donned them now their gay apparel.

It's in the farking song.
 
2013-12-22 12:32:24 PM  
OH NOHS!!

Someone was offended by a gay black Santa.

Quick - assemble the rest of the gay farkers!
 
2013-12-22 12:32:27 PM  

GhostFish: Popular Opinion: Breaking News!

This just in...some people still uncomfortable with openly ghey expression.

but they gheys will shove it in their faces until they learn to quietly accept it.

someday, it will be perfectly fine to shove fruit up your ass in public. We just need to see it more until we learn to accept it.

I'll get you a pineapple so that you can get the ball rolling.


a pineapple would kill me.
i believe you are both insulting and oppressing me. please stop.
 
2013-12-22 12:32:57 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: Nice to know that if this story had resulted in gay bashing you would have supported that.

How on earth do you get that from my post? They're obviously seeing consequences from it, are they not?

Whatever, hypocritical Mary.

Clutch your pearls some more while you support free speech that you happen to agree with.

I love how I cited evidence completely disproving your assertion, but you have no other option but to keep making the accusation. It's really funny.


Disproving what?

You have yet to cite a defense of what they ware saying that wasn't qualified with "but they deserve to be punished for it".
 
2013-12-22 12:33:03 PM  

ko_kyi: Well, they donned them now their gay apparel.

It's in the farking song.


Well played.
 
2013-12-22 12:34:17 PM  

MJMaloney187: cameroncrazy1984: I wonder how many people here are also vocal advocates for removing cheerleaders from NFL games as they are "sexualizing" the event and children are likely to be there.

Christ wasn't born on Superbowl Sunday, Hoss. You continue to be deliberately obtuse for the sake of argument. It's sophomoronic. Grow up.


What does Christ have to do with anything? Does it have be a Christmas event in order to be "sexualized"?

Come on.
 
2013-12-22 12:35:45 PM  

TFerWannaBe: Well played.


Can you believe 300 posts in and no one said it yet?  Or was it too obvious?
 
2013-12-22 12:36:15 PM  
Another cameroncrazy save the gays thread - great.

Don't you have a penis to put in your mouth?
 
2013-12-22 12:36:40 PM  

MJMaloney187: cameroncrazy1984: I wonder how many people here are also vocal advocates for removing cheerleaders from NFL games as they are "sexualizing" the event and children are likely to be there.

Christ wasn't born on Superbowl Sunday, Hoss. You continue to be deliberately obtuse for the sake of argument. It's sophomoronic. Grow up.


Well, he wasn't born on Christmas either, so there's that.
 
2013-12-22 12:38:44 PM  

ko_kyi: TFerWannaBe: Well played.

Can you believe 300 posts in and no one said it yet?  Or was it too obvious?


they weren't donning gay apparel, or any apparel, but perhaps that is gay?
 
2013-12-22 12:38:50 PM  

BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: Nice to know that if this story had resulted in gay bashing you would have supported that.

How on earth do you get that from my post? They're obviously seeing consequences from it, are they not?

Whatever, hypocritical Mary.

Clutch your pearls some more while you support free speech that you happen to agree with.

I love how I cited evidence completely disproving your assertion, but you have no other option but to keep making the accusation. It's really funny.

Disproving what?

You have yet to cite a defense of what they ware saying that wasn't qualified with "but they deserve to be punished for it".


Hey, get back here with those goalposts.

You should go read the Duck Dynasty thread. He said multiple times that they had the right to say whatever they want. So yea, you can either admit you were wrong, or you can keep swinging at that strawman. Your choice.
 
2013-12-22 12:40:35 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: wellreadneck: cameroncrazy1984: wellreadneck: Are these guys really representational of that community? There really should be a vote before these guys get to carry the banner everyone else has to walk behind.

You've got to be kidding.

If not, conservative gays can march in the parade too if they disagree with this troupe.

Weak. Where's the qualifier in all your other posts equating this with other gay rights issues?

What are you talking about? You appear to think that conservative gays have a problem with this dance troupe "representing them" as well. I just pointed out that conservative gay groups have just as much right to express themselves in public as liberals do.


I don't "appear to think", I'm flat out telling you. I'm pointing out to you that  you're dividing Alabama's gays into "conservative gays" and just "gays". If the conservative gays are such a minority, why aren't there a lot more regular gays out there dancing lockstep?
 
2013-12-22 12:40:39 PM  

BigOle8point: Another cameroncrazy save the gays thread - great.

Don't you have a penis to put in your mouth?


Nope, I'm straight. Interesting that's the imagery you thought of, though.
 
2013-12-22 12:41:43 PM  

BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: Nice to know that if this story had resulted in gay bashing you would have supported that.

How on earth do you get that from my post? They're obviously seeing consequences from it, are they not?

Whatever, hypocritical Mary.

Clutch your pearls some more while you support free speech that you happen to agree with.

I love how I cited evidence completely disproving your assertion, but you have no other option but to keep making the accusation. It's really funny.

Disproving what?

You have yet to cite a defense of what they ware saying that wasn't qualified with "but they deserve to be punished for it".


I did. in the post that I quoted, nowhere do I say   "but they deserve to be punished for it".

Keep trying! It's so much fun watching you squirm.
 
2013-12-22 12:41:51 PM  

hillary: BigBooper: Did everyone miss the part where these guys are trying to get a reality show going?

I know this wasn't in the same league as the balloon boy stunt, but it still seems like their stunt was obviously self promotion.

So? Everyone self-promotes. What's your point?


The arguments seem to revolve around free speech rights, gay rights, gender rights, etc. In the end, it's a bunch of guys trying to shock people so that they can get paid.

And as for self promotion, there's making a video of your performance art (or whatever you want to call it), and then there's shiating on the Koran and then posting the video to YouTube. These things are not equivalent.
 
2013-12-22 12:42:41 PM  
They got only a fraction of the attention they desperately crave?
 
2013-12-22 12:42:51 PM  

grumpfuff: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: Nice to know that if this story had resulted in gay bashing you would have supported that.

How on earth do you get that from my post? They're obviously seeing consequences from it, are they not?

Whatever, hypocritical Mary.

Clutch your pearls some more while you support free speech that you happen to agree with.

I love how I cited evidence completely disproving your assertion, but you have no other option but to keep making the accusation. It's really funny.

Disproving what?

You have yet to cite a defense of what they ware saying that wasn't qualified with "but they deserve to be punished for it".

Hey, get back here with those goalposts.

You should go read the Duck Dynasty thread. He said multiple times that they had the right to say whatever they want. So yea, you can either admit you were wrong, or you can keep swinging at that strawman. Your choice.


Now you have to drag your alt into it? Or did you just forget who you were logged on as?
 
2013-12-22 12:43:16 PM  

ko_kyi: TFerWannaBe: Well played.

Can you believe 300 posts in and no one said it yet?  Or was it too obvious?


Somebody erected an SEP field around it. Somebody Else's Post. They painted it pink... and it looks faaabulous!
 
2013-12-22 12:44:30 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I did. in the post that I quoted, nowhere do I say "but they deserve to be punished for it".


cameroncrazy1984: Did he not say what he wished? Nobody has said he doesn't. He just doesn't have the right to do it without consequence.

 
2013-12-22 12:45:13 PM  

hillary: Christ wasn't born on Christmas, either, but that hasn't stopped the fundies from deluding themselves despite being about four months off.


Saturnalia was much more festive.
 
2013-12-22 12:45:22 PM  

BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: I did. in the post that I quoted, nowhere do I say "but they deserve to be punished for it".

cameroncrazy1984: Did he not say what he wished? Nobody has said he doesn't. He just doesn't have the right to do it without consequence.


Consequence != punishment. Not surprising that you don't know this.
 
2013-12-22 12:47:26 PM  
Wait!  Uncle Poodle is black?
 
2013-12-22 12:48:06 PM  

hillary: MJMaloney187: cameroncrazy1984: I wonder how many people here are also vocal advocates for removing cheerleaders from NFL games as they are "sexualizing" the event and children are likely to be there.

Christ wasn't born on Superbowl Sunday, Hoss. You continue to be deliberately obtuse for the sake of argument. It's sophomoronic. Grow up.

Christ wasn't born on Christmas, either, but that hasn't stopped the fundies from deluding themselves despite being about four months off.

Victoria's Secret is having a blow-out Christmas sale. The horror. The horror.


I had a bit of a blow out too... If ya know what I mean... and I think ya do.

/damned tire... I knew it was time to replace it.
 
2013-12-22 12:49:02 PM  

Relatively Obscure: Endive Wombat: How about it is a children's parade and tasteful attire should be the norm, no matter the gender???

[www.x69twisted.com image 517x777]

Oh God!  Shield your eyes, children!  How'd this garbage get on our television?!


As far as I'm concerned, I'm more offended by bimbos who flaunt their obviously fake tits.
 
2013-12-22 12:49:10 PM  

Mr_Crink: Nowhere in the article is it stated that The Dancing Elites are gay, or are taking a stand for gay rights. Subby just assumed they are gay,


This. It looks no different than standard cheerleader routines. Seriously. Everything I saw was only different because men are doing it.
 
2013-12-22 12:50:22 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: MJMaloney187: Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance

It 100% is. Why wouldn't it be? You're basically saying that the gays have no right to be in public because people don't like it.


The common theme here among many of us is "Time and Place."  A Family oriented Christmas/Children's Parade is not the best time and place for ones political grandstanding.  I support gay rights to the farking max, but this was absolutely 100% not the right time and place to get ones message out.  It is attention whoring through and through...
 
2013-12-22 12:51:05 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: I did. in the post that I quoted, nowhere do I say "but they deserve to be punished for it".

cameroncrazy1984: Did he not say what he wished? Nobody has said he doesn't. He just doesn't have the right to do it without consequence.

Consequence != punishment. Not surprising that you don't know this.


Defended free speech != conditional defense unless I happen to disagree with what was said

So are you going to cite your principled defense of free speech in a Duck Dynasty thread or admit you're a hypocrite?

You have no problem telling people in this thread that it doesn't matter if they don't want their kids to see gay dudes twerking or not because free speech.

Hypocrite
 
2013-12-22 12:53:50 PM  

BullBearMS: grumpfuff: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: Nice to know that if this story had resulted in gay bashing you would have supported that.

How on earth do you get that from my post? They're obviously seeing consequences from it, are they not?

Whatever, hypocritical Mary.

Clutch your pearls some more while you support free speech that you happen to agree with.

I love how I cited evidence completely disproving your assertion, but you have no other option but to keep making the accusation. It's really funny.

Disproving what?

You have yet to cite a defense of what they ware saying that wasn't qualified with "but they deserve to be punished for it".

Hey, get back here with those goalposts.

You should go read the Duck Dynasty thread. He said multiple times that they had the right to say whatever they want. So yea, you can either admit you were wrong, or you can keep swinging at that strawman. Your choice.

Now you have to drag your alt into it? Or did you just forget who you were logged on as?


So you get proven wrong, and instead of being a man and admitting it, you instead double down on the stupid and call me an alt?

You shining model of maturity, you.


Endive Wombat: cameroncrazy1984: MJMaloney187: Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance

It 100% is. Why wouldn't it be? You're basically saying that the gays have no right to be in public because people don't like it.

The common theme here among many of us is "Time and Place."  A Family oriented Christmas/Children's Parade is not the best time and place for ones political grandstanding.  I support gay rights to the farking max, but this was absolutely 100% not the right time and place to get ones message out.  It is attention whoring through and through...


Maybe the parade organizers shouldn't have invited them.
 
2013-12-22 12:54:01 PM  

wyltoknow: There really is no good counterargument to the fact that women and young girls do this exact same thing, including venues made for families and children, without anyone raising an eyebrow. "Look where they were, they should have known better." Yeah, they shoulda known society only accepts your sexualization if you have boobs or will have boobs someday when you hit puberty. Those pervs!


Even as Libby Lib as I am, I tend to agree with the Right that we do have too much of a sexualized society.

To each his own I suppose...
 
2013-12-22 12:55:09 PM  

BullBearMS: You have no problem telling people in this thread that it doesn't matter if they don't want their kids to see gay dudes twerking or not because free speech.

Hypocrite


I have no problem with people saying they don't like it either. I would have no problem with their employer firing them if this is somehow a breach of any contract they may have with them.  I DO have a problem with people saying they should be barred from public expression. Cmon man, this isn't really that hard to understand. Apparently you just don't know the difference between "consequences" and "punishment"
 
2013-12-22 12:56:15 PM  

Endive Wombat: cameroncrazy1984: MJMaloney187: Four black cross-dressing homosexuals strutting down Main Street in Alabama during a Christmas parade has absolutely nothing to do with equal rights and tolerance

It 100% is. Why wouldn't it be? You're basically saying that the gays have no right to be in public because people don't like it.

The common theme here among many of us is "Time and Place."  A Family oriented Christmas/Children's Parade is not the best time and place for ones political grandstanding.  I support gay rights to the farking max, but this was absolutely 100% not the right time and place to get ones message out.  It is attention whoring through and through...


Who decides the "time and place" where certain things are allowed? Me? You? These guys? The Pope?
 
2013-12-22 12:57:11 PM  

baconbeard: What a bunch of hypocrites. People get their panties in a twist over this, but when Miley Cyrus does a sexualized and inappropriate performance at the Video Music Awards, no one says a damn thing.


One was viewable to the general public, one was viewable through the use of a TV AND a cable subscription.  One is not like the other.
 
2013-12-22 12:59:39 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: You have no problem telling people in this thread that it doesn't matter if they don't want their kids to see gay dudes twerking or not because free speech.

Hypocrite

I have no problem with people saying they don't like it either. I would have no problem with their employer firing them if this is somehow a breach of any contract they may have with them.  I DO have a problem with people saying they should be barred from public expression. Cmon man, this isn't really that hard to understand. Apparently you just don't know the difference between "consequences" and "punishment"


So are you going to post an example of you defending free speech without putting conditionals on it in a Duck Dynasty thread or not?

cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: I do not need to see anyone gay or straight, ass out, prancing around in public. It is much as my right to demand a sense of public decency.

No it isn't. You don't get to pick and choose which speech you find acceptable. That's not how the first amendment works.


Hypocrite
 
2013-12-22 12:59:45 PM  

Lorelle: Relatively Obscure: Endive Wombat: How about it is a children's parade and tasteful attire should be the norm, no matter the gender???

[www.x69twisted.com image 517x777]

Oh God!  Shield your eyes, children!  How'd this garbage get on our television?!

As far as I'm concerned, I'm more offended by bimbos who flaunt their obviously fake tits.


ouch
 
2013-12-22 01:02:20 PM  
Have a janky, spanky Christmas?
 
2013-12-22 01:02:36 PM  

Relatively Obscure: BizarreMan: Hell last parade I went to there was a troupe of girls, maybe aged 7-16 doing it.

That's not a parade, that's a felony.


Not if Honey Boo Boo Does it.


images.christianpost.com
 
2013-12-22 01:04:11 PM  

BullBearMS: So are you going to post an example of you defending free speech without putting conditionals on it in a Duck Dynasty thread or not?


Forgot to say. I love how you're accusing him of something then demanding he be the one to prove you wrong. Let me try.


Remember that time you said in that post that 2+2=5? If you don't show me a post from another thread more than a day old right now where you say 2+2=4, then you clearly think 2+2=5.

Is this supposed to be fun or something? It's rather boring and childish.
 
2013-12-22 01:05:24 PM  

wellreadneck: cameroncrazy1984: supayoda: They're actually pretty damn good, and the routine is comparable to what I've seen from some cheer squads. Santa #1 didn't do a great job of pulling off the outfit, but that's about it.

/from Alabama

But they were gay! That's automatically sexualized!

How is that any different that what you're doing? Granted, you may know more of Alabama's gay community than the couple of dozen I know, but they (both black and white) are some of the most conservative gay friends I have. Are these guys really representational of that community? There really should be a vote before these guys get to carry the banner everyone else has to walk behind.


Actually, the underlines part was from someone else. The part above it was me. I'm not a member of Alabama's gay community. I'm just from Alabama. And as I pointed out... It's about what I have seen from female cheer squads both in the type of routine as well as the costumes. (So I guess we agree? I think?) I could be wrong, but I believe the next commenter was being giving a sarcastic response.

Quite frankly, I want to know why people think it's okay for females to wear things like this and perform suggestive dance routines.

As to what gays are like... Well, they're like straights, I guess. There's no one specific cookie-cutter straight or gay personality. Some people like one thing. Some people like another. I don't necessarily think it's fair to try to lump all gays or all straights together. And who says you have to be flamboyantly gay to enjoy that style of dance? It's like saying straight girls can't enjoy race cars. Yeah, I know some gay men who wear ties and suits. I know gay men who are, as one put it, "a towering inferno." Just because one group wants to be represented doesn't mean that another group can't be represented. Why the limits?
 
2013-12-22 01:10:38 PM  

Bonobo62: Who decides the "time and place" where certain things are allowed? Me? You? These guys? The Pope?


Fair enough.  I get where your head is at.  That being said, how about some common sense and common decency???  There is no reason, gay, straight, male, female, etc to sexualize a family event.
 
2013-12-22 01:13:00 PM  

Endive Wombat: That being said, how about some common sense and common decency?


These are way easier to say than they are to define.

But really, if high school dance squads are okay at family events, these guys don't really surpass those in any way except penis length.
 
2013-12-22 01:16:32 PM  
Gay or not that was just wrong during kids parade.
 
2013-12-22 01:16:59 PM  

BullBearMS: So are you going to post an example of you defending free speech without putting conditionals on it in a Duck Dynasty thread or not?


Asked and answered.

BullBearMS: Hypocrite


In no way does that make me a hypocrite, much as you want it to. Nowhere is that incongruous with my position.
 
2013-12-22 01:17:36 PM  

stuffy: Gay or not that was just wrong during kids parade.


So I would guess you're against cheerleaders as well.
 
2013-12-22 01:20:20 PM  

HighlanderRPI: [shechive.files.wordpress.com image 400x400]


That is one of the most disturbing things I think I've ever seen...
 
2013-12-22 01:21:32 PM  
It looks like nothing happened except some people complained after the fact. That's probably not an appropriate act for a Christmas parade. I doubt it would raise many eyebrows at a Mardi Gras parade, though. At least not here. I don't know about Mobile.
 
2013-12-22 01:21:42 PM  
I have zero doubt there will be more than one cheerleading squad on the sidelines of today's NFL games wearing the same outfit.
 
2013-12-22 01:22:05 PM  

hillary: lots of angry words


Sorry I did not make myself clear.  My point was no matter the "cause," a Christmas themed parade should be that.  A 4th of July parade should be that.  These performers knew what they were doing, they will likely get some local interviews and TV appearances out of it, or general attention (see fark.com), which will likely give them the opportunity to continue to preach their desire for equal rights, etc.

I applaud their creativity/trollin'...buttt...family oriented events are not the time and place for "getting a reaction" out of people...and if you think for one second that a group of 4 gay, black men prancing around in "non-traditional"/culturally acceptable or culturally "normal" (whatever that is) Christmas garb in the south is not intended even in the slightest to attempt to garner a reaction, you need to open your eyes to how the world works my friend.
 
2013-12-22 01:22:24 PM  

SquiggsIN: Warlordtrooper: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.

Yup, it happens every day when a homophobic (and hypocritical) guy jeers at the concept of man on man action but encourages his female friends to give him a show because woman on woman is HAWT.


You know my husband?
 
2013-12-22 01:23:56 PM  

Relatively Obscure: Endive Wombat: That being said, how about some common sense and common decency?

These are way easier to say than they are to define.

But really, if high school dance squads are okay at family events, these guys don't really surpass those in any way except penis length.


No doubt!  I've said it here in other threads, and I've said it in this thread, I do believe that we live in a hyper-sexualized society, and I find it somewhat unacceptable.
 
2013-12-22 01:24:44 PM  

jedikinkoid: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Endive Wombat: MrHappyRotter: So, these presumably gay and black men should learn their place. Got it.

Oh Jesus Christ!  You know that's not what I meant, knock it off!

There is a time and place for everything in life.  Is it appropriate to tell dick jokes while burring grandma?  No!  Is it appropriate to have scantily clad folks, regardless of gender, dancing around "in a suggestive manner" at a children's parade?  Nope!

Are we dressing grandma up as Aaron Burr or something?

I was just hoping "burring" isn't the new slang for some variation of sex act.


^^^^^

/poor old nana never saw it coming.
 
2013-12-22 01:25:03 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: So are you going to post an example of you defending free speech without putting conditionals on it in a Duck Dynasty thread or not?

Asked and answered.

BullBearMS: Hypocrite

In no way does that make me a hypocrite, much as you want it to. Nowhere is that incongruous with my position.


So no. You aren't going to post a real defense of free speech from a Duck Dynasty thread because you didn't make one.

Lying hypocrite
 
2013-12-22 01:25:18 PM  

stuffy: Gay or not that was just wrong during kids parade.


But you're still cool with the Radio City Rockettes at the Macey's parade right?
 
2013-12-22 01:26:06 PM  
Dick the Halls.
 
2013-12-22 01:29:19 PM  

stuffy: Gay or not that was just wrong during kids parade.


Why? The gay kids probably enjoyed it
 
2013-12-22 01:32:51 PM  

Endive Wombat: I am all for you being as fabulous as you can, whenever, and wherever...that being said...

You need to know your audience, and there is a time a place for everything.  Christmas parades are for two demographics, old people and children.  If they are calling this event a "Children's Parade" then these guys were out of line in my opinion.  Highly unacceptable.


But women doing the same thing are acceptable to children, according to you.

Make an effort to think about what you said
 
2013-12-22 01:35:38 PM  

Protricity: Endive Wombat: I am all for you being as fabulous as you can, whenever, and wherever...that being said...

You need to know your audience, and there is a time a place for everything.  Christmas parades are for two demographics, old people and children.  If they are calling this event a "Children's Parade" then these guys were out of line in my opinion.  Highly unacceptable.

But women doing the same thing are acceptable to children, according to you.

Make an effort to think about what you said


No where in this thread did I say that.  Go look, I'll wait.

If you actually look at my posts, you will find me complaining about how hypersexualized our society is.
 
2013-12-22 01:35:42 PM  

rohar: Richard Roma: cameroncrazy1984:

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

That's some good satire of the brainless reactionary you've got there!  It is satire... right?

Why would you think so? Do you disagree? Should we allow bigotry to go unchecked?

What the hell does bigotry have to do with my initial post?  I don't like the idea of sexually suggestive dancing in a Christmas day parade.  Period.

You know, I need these occasional encounters with people like you to remind me that the Teahadist right doesn't have a monopoly on Pants-on-head retardation.

So the famous Rockettes should be removed from the Christmas season?


I haven't watched the Rockettes in years, but the last time I saw them they weren't doing booty dances so much as synchronized dancing.

I always thought that was the point, to show 40 (or more) dancers that had superb timing and choreography.

/sort of like the Silent Drill team at Eight and I.
 
2013-12-22 01:35:51 PM  
My guess was a beating by an angry mob. Kind of relieved, kind of disappointed.

This seems like a bad idea. It's just attention whoring. What good can come of it? I'm not seeing an upside here.
 
2013-12-22 01:37:18 PM  

brax33: Because women would never want to see attractive men, closeted people never lie, non-scientific studeis are always right, and bisexual men never count? Is that what you're saying here?

Even still, assuming your 5% number is correct, (I assure you it's not.) this is like saying "ban Hawaiians from dancing in parades, they're only 1% of the world population! Gross! No one else wants to see it!"


Now I never said anything like that.  I said that statistically it makes sense that flamboyantly gay entertainers are not commonly represented in main street events because they don't represent a statistically significant portion of the population.  That is a simple numerical fact.  I never said anything about banning them, you made that leap.  I personally don't care.

brax33: I've put up with softcore straight porn being blasted at me for 27 years through cheerleaders, tv, movies, etc because it's "normal" and "what's expected" or "what most people want/expect" and quite frankly even though I don't find these femenine guys attractive, I think it's about time it happened.
#1 Because straight white males aren't the only people in the world.
#2 and more importantly though, payback's a biach. Feel the burn


And then you added this which says that you don't particularly care for it either but fark us guys because you have an ax to grind.  Kinda renders any other point you had moot since it appears you have an agenda.
 
2013-12-22 01:38:40 PM  

kendelrio: rohar: Richard Roma: cameroncrazy1984:

Bigotry deserves no tolerance.

That's some good satire of the brainless reactionary you've got there!  It is satire... right?

Why would you think so? Do you disagree? Should we allow bigotry to go unchecked?

What the hell does bigotry have to do with my initial post?  I don't like the idea of sexually suggestive dancing in a Christmas day parade.  Period.

You know, I need these occasional encounters with people like you to remind me that the Teahadist right doesn't have a monopoly on Pants-on-head retardation.

So the famous Rockettes should be removed from the Christmas season?

I haven't watched the Rockettes in years, but the last time I saw them they weren't doing booty dances so much as synchronized dancing.

I always thought that was the point, to show 40 (or more) dancers that had superb timing and choreography.

/sort of like the Silent Drill team at Eight and I.


Yeah, I don't think that person has ever actually seen the Rockettes. They aren't twerking in people's faces. Not that there's anything wrong with twerking in people's faces, but comparing this to the Rockettes is just stupid.
 
2013-12-22 01:40:41 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Yeah, I don't think that person has ever actually seen the Rockettes. They aren't twerking in people's faces. Not that there's anything wrong with twerking in people's faces, but comparing this to the Rockettes is just stupid.


I guess if you're prone to objectifying women, the Rockettes would seem highly sexual.
 
2013-12-22 01:43:05 PM  

brax33: Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps

Uh... Not to nitpick here, Frank, but where exactly did they say they were campaigning for gay rights? Does everything you do as a straight man (I assume from this silly comment) reflect on heterosexual rights? Because damn, by that standard all the dead beat dads, wife beaters, child killing parents of the world have damn sure made sure your straight rights and married rights should all be taken away.

These guys are just being who they are, not trying to campaign for or get additional recognition except as anything other than their dance group. I assure you if a straight guy wanted to do the performance and dress the way they do he'd be more than welcome.

As for the "no one wants to see that" guy.... I don't want to see slutty ass cheerleaders acting like whores every time I watch football, but I don't biatch about it and start screaming about "OMG THE CHILDREN, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"

Which also brings up my last point. All of this bullshiat about it being a "Childrens Parade" - this parade is a parade for the town, NOT a "Children's Parade" a google search shows just as many if not more adults than children at the parade over the years - and a closer look shows some pretty slutty elf outfits. On white women.

I've put up with softcore straight porn being blasted at me for 27 years through cheerleaders, tv, movies, etc because it's "normal" and "what's expected" or "what most people want/expect" and quite frankly even though I don't find these femenine guys attractive, I think it's about time it happened.
#1 Because straight white males aren't the only people in the world.
#2 and more importantly though, payback's a biach. Feel the burn.


this.
 
2013-12-22 01:44:51 PM  
 
2013-12-22 01:50:31 PM  

Endive Wombat: if you think for one second that a group of 4 gay, black men prancing around...


You've made a lot of posts in this thread so perhaps you can help me out here.  I'm trying to find where the article says they were gay.  I've done ctrl-F and looked for "gay" and "homosexual" and can find neither.  I figure since you've referred to them as gay multiple times, but haven't referenced any article other than the linked one, you must've seen it somewhere that my in-page search isn't finding.
 
2013-12-22 01:51:27 PM  

BullBearMS: So no. You aren't going to post a real defense of free speech from a Duck Dynasty thread because you didn't make one.

Lying hypocrite


You have a short memory, don't you. I've done so, and other people have even quoted it in case you didn't see it. You're just mad that you thought you could catch me, and you can't admit you were wrong.

Not to mention you still have no idea that there's a difference between the word "consequence" and "punishment"
 
2013-12-22 01:53:36 PM  
Sexualised women at such events is seen as normal and cute, sexualised men are scary and vulgar. And they're gay so now it's super scary and disturbing for some people. And they're black. And it's in Alabama. I'm surprised someone didn't die of a heart attack.

One of those strange things, if a man and a woman are in a room and the man is the naked one, he's considered the sexual predator. If a man and a woman are in a room and the woman is the naked one, he's still the predator.

Women can wear any colour they choose without having their sexuality called into question. Men seem to have a long list of things they can't wear because it might look gay or wrong or something.

My husband watches Torchwood and likes the show but fast forwards past men kissing each other because it makes him too uncomfortable.

Lot of problems to get over. .
 
2013-12-22 01:54:18 PM  

Endive Wombat: Relatively Obscure: Endive Wombat: That being said, how about some common sense and common decency?

These are way easier to say than they are to define.

But really, if high school dance squads are okay at family events, these guys don't really surpass those in any way except penis length.

No doubt!  I've said it here in other threads, and I've said it in this thread, I do believe that we live in a hyper-sexualized society, and I find it somewhat unacceptable.


Well, that's okay, but maybe what's "common" decency, then, doesn't mesh with how you (or I) always feel.  I certainly wouldn't suggest that you can't feel a little off-put by, well, whatever.

I'm just kind of saying that these guys don't appear to me to be doing anything so beyond the pale that it would even generate notice, if they were not men.  The "type of dancing" and the "type of dress" arguments against don't really hold much water in a general sense--not to say that for some people, maybe you, they aren't true.
 
2013-12-22 01:54:56 PM  

zamboni: Here's a child being traumatized by the Prancing Elites.

And Here they are offending the genteel white folk at the Senior Bowl in Mobile. Wait till the end .. they get strung up!

And again. I think some ignorant hick racist almost spilled his beer in this one!!!

OMG! Here they are desecrating the Arthur Outlaw Convention center in Mobile!


Really, you can't see that little girl look over at those dancers then rush into someone's arms? And the white communtiy are the only ones who take a "no homo" stance? Again, sweet.
 
2013-12-22 01:56:02 PM  

lohphat: Relatively Obscure: BizarreMan: Hell last parade I went to there was a troupe of girls, maybe aged 7-16 doing it.

That's not a parade, that's a felony.

Not if Honey Boo Boo Does it.


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Every picture of those hicks makes me physically ill.
 
2013-12-22 01:57:16 PM  

wellreadneck: zamboni: Here's a child being traumatized by the Prancing Elites.

And Here they are offending the genteel white folk at the Senior Bowl in Mobile. Wait till the end .. they get strung up!

And again. I think some ignorant hick racist almost spilled his beer in this one!!!

OMG! Here they are desecrating the Arthur Outlaw Convention center in Mobile!

Really, you can't see that little girl look over at those dancers then rush into someone's arms? And the white communtiy are the only ones who take a "no homo" stance? Again, sweet.


Adpopulum is your defense?  The belief of the majority should rule?  You one of them yellow liberals?
 
2013-12-22 01:57:37 PM  

FunkOut: My husband watches Torchwood and likes the show but fast forwards past men kissing each other because it makes him too uncomfortable.


It weirds me out on a gut level a little, too, sometimes.  But that's my problem, not theirs, of course.  Fast forwarding beats demanding the show be banished from existence.
 
2013-12-22 01:58:36 PM  

MrHappyRotter: I decided to be objective about this.  I spent a few minutes on Google image and video search, combining various terms and phrases with Christmas parade.  While I did not do an exhaustive and methodical scientific survey, I never the less have concluded that these guys' outfits and dance moves were absolutely no better and no worse than many of the cheerleader, dancer and sporty category of Christmas and Santa attire and dance I saw in videos and photos.  The only difference, as far as I can tell, is that it's somehow inappropriate, disgusting and insulting when men do it.

But in all fairness, I didn't exactly compare the mens' outfits and dance routines to parade participants at Semmes, Alabama.  Perhaps those folks would have been equally displeased if attractive women wore similar costumes and performed the same dancing.  Some how I doubt it though.  Maybe a few mothers would be upset, and of course the fathers might play along for show.


Normally, in Semmes, Alabama the women dress like this, so you can see why the vaginas were sandy that day.
 
2013-12-22 01:59:18 PM  

zamboni: Here's a child being traumatized by the Prancing Elites.


First actual video I've seen of them.  Looks like they really ARE no different than your basic high school dance squad in dress or dance style.
 
2013-12-22 02:00:52 PM  
I don't really find these guys interesting and am not into the latest dance moves, but if the parade asked them to participate, big whoop. If my ten-year-old son saw them, he would either find it funny or gross. I might tease him about it. I would not be too afraid of his life being ruined or anything. It really is not that big of a deal. The kid sees worse on television. I think the media has a lot to do with this manufactured outrage.
 
2013-12-22 02:09:00 PM  

The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: I don't really find these guys interesting and am not into the latest dance moves, but if the parade asked them to participate, big whoop. If my ten-year-old son saw them, he would either find it funny or gross. I might tease him about it. I would not be too afraid of his life being ruined or anything. It really is not that big of a deal. The kid sees worse on television. I think the media has a lot to do with this manufactured outrage.


But we need something to be outraged over. The hype over the Duck Dynasty guy is wearing off, and we need a new distraction.
 
2013-12-22 02:10:57 PM  

rohar: wellreadneck: zamboni: Here's a child being traumatized by the Prancing Elites.

And Here they are offending the genteel white folk at the Senior Bowl in Mobile. Wait till the end .. they get strung up!

And again. I think some ignorant hick racist almost spilled his beer in this one!!!

OMG! Here they are desecrating the Arthur Outlaw Convention center in Mobile!

Really, you can't see that little girl look over at those dancers then rush into someone's arms? And the white communtiy are the only ones who take a "no homo" stance? Again, sweet.

Adpopulum is your defense?  The belief of the majority should rule?  You one of them yellow liberals?


Wouldn't the citation of several examples of those not offended by this behavior be the ad populum argument? "Look, here's the majority not being bothered by this" is pretty much an appeal to authority of the many.
 
2013-12-22 02:11:13 PM  
Sounds like everyone who is outraged by this just goes by how they THINK that gays behave in public, rather than what they actually DO.
 
2013-12-22 02:13:22 PM  

wellreadneck: rohar: wellreadneck: zamboni: Here's a child being traumatized by the Prancing Elites.

And Here they are offending the genteel white folk at the Senior Bowl in Mobile. Wait till the end .. they get strung up!

And again. I think some ignorant hick racist almost spilled his beer in this one!!!

OMG! Here they are desecrating the Arthur Outlaw Convention center in Mobile!

Really, you can't see that little girl look over at those dancers then rush into someone's arms? And the white communtiy are the only ones who take a "no homo" stance? Again, sweet.

Adpopulum is your defense?  The belief of the majority should rule?  You one of them yellow liberals?

Wouldn't the citation of several examples of those not offended by this behavior be the ad populum argument? "Look, here's the majority not being bothered by this" is pretty much an appeal to authority of the many.


I would suggest that behavior is either legal or not, ignorant of current popular norms.

If this isn't the case, why all the fuss over the ACA?  The majority support it so it's a good thing right?
 
2013-12-22 02:13:30 PM  

wellreadneck: rohar: wellreadneck: zamboni: Here's a child being traumatized by the Prancing Elites.

And Here they are offending the genteel white folk at the Senior Bowl in Mobile. Wait till the end .. they get strung up!

And again. I think some ignorant hick racist almost spilled his beer in this one!!!

OMG! Here they are desecrating the Arthur Outlaw Convention center in Mobile!

Really, you can't see that little girl look over at those dancers then rush into someone's arms? And the white communtiy are the only ones who take a "no homo" stance? Again, sweet.

Adpopulum is your defense?  The belief of the majority should rule?  You one of them yellow liberals?

Wouldn't the citation of several examples of those not offended by this behavior be the ad populum argument? "Look, here's the majority not being bothered by this" is pretty much an appeal to authority of the many.


It's clear that those saying "won't you think of the children," aren't actually thinking of the children who were actually there and saw the dancing.
 
2013-12-22 02:16:00 PM  
OK, so what happened?  (Reads article)  Sounds like nothing.

Those fellows should just get away from Alambama and do their acts at children's parades above the Mason-Dixon line.  I'm sure they will be welcomed with open arms.
 
2013-12-22 02:19:47 PM  
Exuberant self-degradation.
 
2013-12-22 02:23:48 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: wellreadneck: rohar: wellreadneck: zamboni: Here's a child being traumatized by the Prancing Elites.

And Here they are offending the genteel white folk at the Senior Bowl in Mobile. Wait till the end .. they get strung up!

And again. I think some ignorant hick racist almost spilled his beer in this one!!!

OMG! Here they are desecrating the Arthur Outlaw Convention center in Mobile!

Really, you can't see that little girl look over at those dancers then rush into someone's arms? And the white communtiy are the only ones who take a "no homo" stance? Again, sweet.

Adpopulum is your defense?  The belief of the majority should rule?  You one of them yellow liberals?

Wouldn't the citation of several examples of those not offended by this behavior be the ad populum argument? "Look, here's the majority not being bothered by this" is pretty much an appeal to authority of the many.

It's clear that those saying "won't you think of the children," aren't actually thinking of the children who were actually there and saw the dancing.


We've seen one example of a child who saw it. She seemed less than entranced. Of course, most kids cry on Santa's lap, too.
 
2013-12-22 02:31:29 PM  

sweatybronson: This is a video of the Semmes Christmas  parade from last year.

Pretty boring...  except for the wardrobe malfunction at 4:13.

And inappropriate clothing at 4:40?  And at 10:05?  (youngTaylor Swift is from Semmes apparently...).


And 'dancers' at 12:00.

14:30.  More leg-baring, 'dancing' goodness.

Black girls with bare legs at 18:45.  Geez sisters...something in the water there must sap people of their rhythm...

Dance troup full of young girls showing leg at 21:00.

Beads at 21:45.

Old guys on tractors at 22:20


(Okay, my final observation?  A few groups had females in clothing that showed a lot of leg...  But they weren't dressed as revealingly above the waist as the gay black dudes...  no midriffs, I don't think... Also, nobody was doing anything that could possibly be called 'dancing.'  I could see them doing sexy dance moves, and that being inappropriate. [ they're black guys.  And gay.  That's +2 on the big-schlong scale.  I'm sure their hip-thrusting came along with seeing some snakey outlines].

That being said, the scantily-cladness of the young girls in this thing is kinda creepy).

Also, gay black dudes - workout more.  You're dancers.  WTF's with the belly?


Sweetie, you try looking that good after drinking 40s.
 
2013-12-22 02:46:30 PM  

BigOle8point: OH NOHS!!

Someone was offended by a gay black Santa.

Quick - assemble the rest of the gay farkers!


But, but, butt, Santa is always white!!!
 
2013-12-22 02:50:08 PM  
The video wouldn't work for me but from the pictures and description it seems you don't need to be a racist or a homophobe to think that's completely inappropriate for a Christmas parade.
 
2013-12-22 03:07:42 PM  

notatrollorami: The video wouldn't work for me but from the pictures and description it seems you don't need to be a racist or a homophobe to think that's completely inappropriate for a Christmas parade.


Racist homophobe
 
2013-12-22 03:13:45 PM  
From the pictures I saw some women obviously enjoying it and one guy who needs to burn off that bowl full of jelly. Otherwise nothing to get excited about.
 
2013-12-22 03:26:51 PM  

Endive Wombat: I am all for you being as fabulous as you can, whenever, and wherever...that being said...

You need to know your audience, and there is a time a place for everything.  Christmas parades are for two demographics, old people and children.  If they are calling this event a "Children's Parade" then these guys were out of line in my opinion.  Highly unacceptable.



If homofabulousness were normal, why would you ever have to hide it from old people and children?


Oh, because it's DISGUSTING and an ABOMINATION?


And if we don't eat shiat, it's BIGOT time!
 
2013-12-22 04:32:45 PM  

TheRealist II: There only purpose was to make the parade all about them and there agenda , I for my self and only myself do not like individuals of whatever gender they think they are whose only purpose to exist is to purposely make everything  all the time about them and there agenda in the most tasteless and classless way possible , as if I dont have to enough individuals around me doing enough of that already !


Except that it seems they were invited to be there by the parade's organizers and just did their normal routine. I think the organizers just invited a random dance troupe without checking them out first.
 
2013-12-22 04:47:30 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: They fixed the cable?


They cut the power?
 
2013-12-22 05:20:48 PM  
guess what happened ... did GOPers in the state all get weird boners?
 
2013-12-22 05:22:27 PM  

HighlanderRPI: [shechive.files.wordpress.com image 400x400]


that is truly disturbing and i hope you get banned for posting it.
 
2013-12-22 05:25:41 PM  

BullBearMS: rohar: BullBearMS: They aren't hypocrites.

Just so we're clear here, are you suggesting we shouldn't suffer hypocrites?

I'm saying that if you defended the Duck Dynasty guys right to speak their mind but think these gay guys don't have just as much of a right to prance their hearts out, you are a hypocrite, yes.

And vice versa.

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Votaire didn't say that.
 
2013-12-22 05:27:58 PM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: [www.moviestillsdb.com image 630x420]


Whatever, back freckles!


came for this. no pun intended.
 
2013-12-22 05:48:09 PM  
You know guys, this is why the squares get up in arms about granting you that rights stuff. You were doing so well. *changes the sign to read "0 Days Since Last Incident To Set Back Gay Rights"*
 
2013-12-22 06:15:35 PM  

GhostFish: Terrible Old Man: You know guys, this is why the squares get up in arms about granting you that rights stuff. You were doing so well. *changes the sign to read "0 Days Since Last Incident To Set Back Gay Rights"*

Hrm. You, I think, will be held accountable for every filthy thing that falls out of Kathy Griffin's mouth. Learn to police your own sexual immorality, ya dirty breeders.


Kathy griffin is heterosexual?
 
2013-12-22 06:16:00 PM  

Terrible Old Man: You know guys, this is why the squares get up in arms about granting you that rights stuff. You were doing so well. *changes the sign to read "0 Days Since Last Incident To Set Back Gay Rights"*


You guys, this is why some gay people have stopped playing by your capricious societal rules.  Gays were and are promised equality in the U.S., how'd that whole staying the in closet thing work out for them?  After a while of playing by the rules and not getting anything out of it, it's just human nature that some people are going to say forget it, I'm doing my own thing.  Then one tiny fraction of the group, doing their own thing after being invited to do it and suddenly we're discussing why gays don't have equal rights?  Changes sign to read "237 + Years of Inequality for Gays and Their Rights in the U.S.A.".
 
2013-12-22 06:23:56 PM  

Relatively Obscure: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: I do not need to see anyone gay or straight, ass out, prancing around in public.  It is much as my right to demand a sense of public decency.

No it isn't. You don't get to pick and choose which speech you find acceptable. That's not how the first amendment works.

Unless it's the Duck Dynasty guys

If it helps, I wouldn't be surprised and I wouldn't care if these guys were never invited to perform again.


And there you have it. The First amendment isn't in play in EITHER situation. The duck dude and the prancing santas both did their thing, and both will face people biatching and moaning about it. biatching and moaning is NOT being disappeared or ending up in Gitmo.
 
2013-12-22 07:03:48 PM  
Never stick your dick in a hornet's nest. Especially that Tracy Morgan-looking one in the front.

/Expected skimpier. Leaving disappointed.
 
2013-12-22 07:40:31 PM  

MrHappyRotter: Terrible Old Man: You know guys, this is why the squares get up in arms about granting you that rights stuff. You were doing so well. *changes the sign to read "0 Days Since Last Incident To Set Back Gay Rights"*

You guys, this is why some gay people have stopped playing by your capricious societal rules.  Gays were and are promised equality in the U.S., how'd that whole staying the in closet thing work out for them?  After a while of playing by the rules and not getting anything out of it, it's just human nature that some people are going to say forget it, I'm doing my own thing.  Then one tiny fraction of the group, doing their own thing after being invited to do it and suddenly we're discussing why gays don't have equal rights?  Changes sign to read "237 + Years of Inequality for Gays and Their Rights in the U.S.A.".


This.  Setting aside all the notions on what is and isn't considered "grossly sexual", they were invited to perform by the organizers.  They arrived, stripped down to their uniforms, and were allowed to march.  That's it.  Any "outrage", ridiculous as it is, should be directed solely at the organizers, not at the performers.  School officials wouldn't ask GWAR to perform at their Prom Dance, but if they did and people were horribly shocked/offended/disgusted, how would that make it GWAR's fault?  They just did what they were paid to do.  It's not their fault no one considered the audience until AFTER the fact.  This is not only not an outrage, it's not a "set-back" of any kind to any community.  This is the very definition of a "non-issue".
 
2013-12-22 08:08:14 PM  
They're pretty good. I'd watch them in a parade.
 
2013-12-22 08:09:06 PM  

mooseyfate: MrHappyRotter: Terrible Old Man: You know guys, this is why the squares get up in arms about granting you that rights stuff. You were doing so well. *changes the sign to read "0 Days Since Last Incident To Set Back Gay Rights"*

You guys, this is why some gay people have stopped playing by your capricious societal rules.  Gays were and are promised equality in the U.S., how'd that whole staying the in closet thing work out for them?  After a while of playing by the rules and not getting anything out of it, it's just human nature that some people are going to say forget it, I'm doing my own thing.  Then one tiny fraction of the group, doing their own thing after being invited to do it and suddenly we're discussing why gays don't have equal rights?  Changes sign to read "237 + Years of Inequality for Gays and Their Rights in the U.S.A.".

This.  Setting aside all the notions on what is and isn't considered "grossly sexual", they were invited to perform by the organizers.  They arrived, stripped down to their uniforms, and were allowed to march.  That's it.  Any "outrage", ridiculous as it is, should be directed solely at the organizers, not at the performers.  School officials wouldn't ask GWAR to perform at their Prom Dance, but if they did and people were horribly shocked/offended/disgusted, how would that make it GWAR's fault?  They just did what they were paid to do.  It's not their fault no one considered the audience until AFTER the fact.  This is not only not an outrage, it's not a "set-back" of any kind to any community.  This is the very definition of a "non-issue".


they were allowed to march, not required to.
 
2013-12-22 08:21:52 PM  
brax33As for the "no one wants to see that" guy.... I don't want to see slutty ass cheerleaders acting like whores every time I watch football, but I don't biatch about it and start screaming about "OMG THE CHILDREN, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"

AngryDragon: It is estimated that gay people are only about 5% of the population. Sorry, I like you guys, but you're a fringe group despite what TV and Hollywood would like to suggest.  What you don't like to see really is "normal" or at least what the vast majority of people want to see.


It's funny how quick you are to use that argument considering that straight males are less than 50% of the word's population.  If you really are proposing that "whatever the majority wants is normal and tough cookies for everyone else" should by the way we run society, you might want to rethink how well that would actually work out for you.

However much you might not like it,  brax33 is right about one thing: straight men have been calling the shots for a long time now and that's beginning to change.  Things just aren't going to keep going your way every single time anymore.
 
2013-12-22 08:23:01 PM  
Misleading headline submitted at 3am, get to wake up and reap the rewards.

/subby
 
2013-12-22 08:25:22 PM  

Oblio13: A bowel movement is nothing to be ashamed of. It's a completely natural and necessary bodily function. And I sincerely enjoy a leisurely, healthy one. It's just me being me. And yet, there are times and places where it's more appropriate than others.


And yet you posted it on Fark for all to see anyway.
 
2013-12-22 08:26:15 PM  

Warlordtrooper: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.


I am definitely ok with this double standard .
 
2013-12-22 08:39:32 PM  

MJMaloney187: Nobody curbed these Marys' freedoms of expression, Pearl Clutcher. What if they showed up like this at you mom's funeral?


That depends.  Are tips mandatory?
 
2013-12-22 08:43:07 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: BullBearMS: cameroncrazy1984: theflatline: I do not need to see anyone gay or straight, ass out, prancing around in public.  It is much as my right to demand a sense of public decency.

No it isn't. You don't get to pick and choose which speech you find acceptable. That's not how the first amendment works.

Unless it's the Duck Dynasty guys

The Duck Dynasty guys can say whatever they want. If these guys' employer find a problem with this, fine. But this is a public parade, not the A&E network. Not surprising that you have no idea what the First Amendment is or how it works.

So nobody rose up in protest over these guys exercising their right to free speech at all?

This has nothing to do with their being "suspended".

If you think the gay guys have a right to march in the parade but don't think the fundies have a right to be fundies, the problem is you.

No, nobody rose up in protest over these guys exercising their right to free speech at all. A&E suspended the guy before the GQ interview really made it public. Go through every one of the Fark threads and you won't see ANYONE saying that Duck Dynasty doesn't have the right to say whatever stupid sh*t they want. Can you find an article online saying they don't either? I bet you can't. Your entire argument is one big strawman.


Damnit.  I'm starting to think I should look up "Duck Dynasty" on Wikipedia or something so I'll know what all this hubbub is about.  I have a sinking suspicion that this is gonna prove one of those "ignorance is bliss" things.
 
2013-12-22 08:45:39 PM  
I don't care for the homosexual lifestyle, personally, I think it is a sin.
That being said....
What's the difference between what they did, and if a pro football team
had their "cheerleaders" prancing around 3/4 in the nude?  Same friggin
thing if you ask me.
If they want to do that, doesn't bother me in the least.  If I saw them coming
and was offended, hell, JUST TURN AROUND til they pass?  What's the
flippin' deal?
 
2013-12-22 09:18:08 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: hasty ambush: Nothing gets people to treat you with dignity  like acting undignified.

Yeah, marching in a parade is so undignified! They should just stay in the closet where they're not enticing you with their gayness.



Yup, all they were doing was "marching"
 
2013-12-22 09:27:25 PM  

Mr. Right: cameroncrazy1984: Mr. Right: Bit'O'Gristle: Time and place for everything boys, and a Christmas parade is not the time to flaunt your gayness in everyones face, and you knew that.

/Nice trolling though.

Yes.  And when one recalls the responses to Miley Cyrus' twerking, which is not substantively different from the kind of routine these guys did, he would be hard-pressed to verify that the complaints are necessarily gay-bashing.  Is it too much to ask for decency in the public square?

I'm sorry that gays existing offends your delicate sensibilities. You can be a shut-in and avoid reality altogether.

The fact that you would make a comment like that identifies you as the type of gay rights activist who does not want tolerance of gays or equal rights for gays.  You obviously believe that everyone should be gay and that gays, because they are somehow more noble than heterosexuals, deserve more rights and special rights.


*points and laughs at the stupid*
 
2013-12-22 09:58:54 PM  
"At least one woman demanded an apology, saying she had "never been so insulted" in her life."

Oh, boo-hoo, you feel insulted? Why? Because now you have to face people who don't fit into the neat little boxes in your head? Fark off.

/If you're gonna let women do that, men get to do it too
//and no, I don't approve of either--dance appropriately, for fark sake--but you might as well give the little girls fap material as well as the little boys.
 
2013-12-22 09:59:28 PM  

Popular Opinion: someday, it will be perfectly fine to shove fruit up your ass in public. We just need to see it more until we learn to accept it.


Keep on fighting the good fight and maybe someday I'll come watch that performance you've been itching to do for years.
 
2013-12-22 10:09:41 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Popular Opinion: cameroncrazy1984: Popular Opinion: Breaking News!

This just in...some people still uncomfortable with openly ghey expression.

but they gheys will shove it in their faces until they learn to quietly accept it.

someday, it will be perfectly fine to shove fruit up your ass in public. We just need to see it more until we learn to accept it.

Hooray for slippery slope arguments!

i suspected you were secretly bigoted against those that like to put fruit in their butts in public.
suspicions confirmed.

*yawn*

You're boring.


Don't be too hard on Popular Opinion.  He just REALLY likes to think about sticking things into men's butts.
 
2013-12-22 10:20:16 PM  
My favorite thing is when a Fark greenlight completely skews the statistics for a news site. There are probably editors. looking at google analytics data. screaming at their writers to pump out more articles on the Santa Claus dancers. We need 24 hour coverage on this, we are finally making our ad numbers!

i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-22 10:51:48 PM  

stonelotus: they were allowed to march, not required to.


I'm sure you were trying to make a point here, but damned if I can find it.  Care to elaborate?
 
2013-12-22 10:53:28 PM  

serial_crusher: GhostFish: Terrible Old Man: You know guys, this is why the squares get up in arms about granting you that rights stuff. You were doing so well. *changes the sign to read "0 Days Since Last Incident To Set Back Gay Rights"*

Hrm. You, I think, will be held accountable for every filthy thing that falls out of Kathy Griffin's mouth. Learn to police your own sexual immorality, ya dirty breeders.

Kathy griffin is heterosexual?


Is he?
 
2013-12-22 11:26:12 PM  
wiki.urbandead.com

/ Seriously? 400+ posts, and no one?
 
2013-12-23 02:31:25 AM  

mooseyfate: stonelotus: they were allowed to march, not required to.

I'm sure you were trying to make a point here, but damned if I can find it.  Care to elaborate?


I think your confusion might have to do with the fact that you failed to keep my comment attached to the quote that gave it context.
 
2013-12-23 12:00:29 PM  

Endive Wombat: Frank N Stein: This type of stunt hurts the gay rights movement more than it helps

THIS 100%!!!!!

When you say "Gay man" it should not conjure up these dudes as a typical stereotype.  The what I am calling "establishment gay-rights movement" is fighting VERY hard in shedding itself of this stereotypical "look" and these guys are not helping.

Personally I see this as a setback, and nothing more than attention whoring at its worst.


Please both of you tell the LBGT community what they should do more.
I am sure they appreciate your thoughtful suggestions.

/and I am sure it has nothing to do with your own discomfort
 
2013-12-23 01:41:29 PM  

stonelotus: mooseyfate: stonelotus: they were allowed to march, not required to.

I'm sure you were trying to make a point here, but damned if I can find it.  Care to elaborate?

I think your confusion might have to do with the fact that you failed to keep my comment attached to the quote that gave it context.


So you WERE trying to imply that they should have backed out of an event they were invited to march in? What sense does that make? Or was that not what you were trying to say? Again; please elaborate.
 
2013-12-23 02:22:23 PM  

Warlordtrooper: AverageAmericanGuy: If this is what gays think of as "gay culture", perhaps I can see how some straight people might be put off by it.

This has less to do with gay culture and more about how men are subjected to double standards when it comes to gender equality.


If they had done a tap number, or other type of dance my guess is nobody would have minded, but thrusting in shorty shorts probably would be considered appropriate for either gender in that type of event.
 
2013-12-23 02:31:35 PM  

SquiggsIN: To paraphrase the comments of the offended : "I don't want to explain to my kids that people have differences that I don't want them to embrace so I'll just keep demanding that society shield my children from reality for me"

These are the same parents that let their kids have unsupervised TV/internet/friend access and then complain when they learn about something they didn't think their precious snowflakes could handle yet.

Remember, censorship : it's for the kids



It isn't about not wanting to explain it to kids, it is that small kids mimic to get attention. I would say that a child, of any gender shouldn't be wanting to dress up like that and thrust their hips around in sexually suggestive ways. They don't understand what is going on there, they don't understand the implications, and at a young age they simply don't care. They know that doing X gets attention, and there is no such thing as negative attention to a child.


As people get older, and they want to do those things because they understand what they are doing, then it is different. But a three year old, isn't going to understand it, they don't particularly care that they crap their pants, so long as they can keep playing
 
2013-12-23 04:09:19 PM  

mooseyfate: stonelotus: mooseyfate: stonelotus: they were allowed to march, not required to.

I'm sure you were trying to make a point here, but damned if I can find it.  Care to elaborate?

I think your confusion might have to do with the fact that you failed to keep my comment attached to the quote that gave it context.

So you WERE trying to imply that they should have backed out of an event they were invited to march in? What sense does that make? Or was that not what you were trying to say? Again; please elaborate.


I don't have any kids so I'm not sure I can explain this to a 3 year old, but here's trying...

They arrived, stripped down to their uniforms, and were allowed to march.  That's it.  Any "outrage", ridiculous as it is, should be directed solely at the organizers, not at the performers.

The dancers made a conscious decision to perform.  They were not contracted to perform or legally or morally obligated to perform in any way. Therefore, they are not absolved of any responsibility for they reactions they received.  I unquestionably support their right to have been allowed to performed, just as I support the rights of the audience to enjoy or be disgusted by the performance and to make their pleasure or displeasure known. whether or not they were invited has nothing to do with it.
 
2013-12-23 05:09:40 PM  

stonelotus: mooseyfate: stonelotus: mooseyfate: stonelotus: they were allowed to march, not required to.

I'm sure you were trying to make a point here, but damned if I can find it.  Care to elaborate?

I think your confusion might have to do with the fact that you failed to keep my comment attached to the quote that gave it context.

So you WERE trying to imply that they should have backed out of an event they were invited to march in? What sense does that make? Or was that not what you were trying to say? Again; please elaborate.

I don't have any kids so I'm not sure I can explain this to a 3 year old, but here's trying...

They arrived, stripped down to their uniforms, and were allowed to march.  That's it.  Any "outrage", ridiculous as it is, should be directed solely at the organizers, not at the performers.

The dancers made a conscious decision to perform.  They were not contracted to perform or legally or morally obligated to perform in any way. Therefore, they are not absolved of any responsibility for they reactions they received.  I unquestionably support their right to have been allowed to performed, just as I support the rights of the audience to enjoy or be disgusted by the performance and to make their pleasure or displeasure known. whether or not they were invited has nothing to do with it.


No outrage was directed towards them until well after their performance, though. If an organizer had approached them and said "Those outfits are inappropriate, you can't march" and they made a scene until they WERE allowed to march, you would be on to something. However they were not only invited (which means an organizer contacted them, not the other way around), no one saw anything particularly wrong with the way they were dressed, so the burden of "responsibility" is on no one but the organizer. If someone invites you to perform and you agree, there's no reason to arrive and then decide not to perform. That would, infact, be far more rude and offensive than the dance routine they actually performed. So again, people can be outraged and shocked all they want, but the performers did nothing except what they are sought after for. The fact that it may have been "inappropriate" for the audience is irrelevant. It was the organizer's job to atleast look into what they do and what they're famous for. This is like if someone invited Gallagher to do a set at a white linen social and they got pissed because now they have assorted fruits splattered all over them. You got what the organizers wanted, it's not Gallagher's fault they failed to consider the audience.
 
2013-12-23 05:12:24 PM  

stonelotus: mooseyfate: stonelotus: mooseyfate: stonelotus: they were allowed to march, not required to.

I'm sure you were trying to make a point here, but damned if I can find it.  Care to elaborate?

I think your confusion might have to do with the fact that you failed to keep my comment attached to the quote that gave it context.

So you WERE trying to imply that they should have backed out of an event they were invited to march in? What sense does that make? Or was that not what you were trying to say? Again; please elaborate.

I don't have any kids so I'm not sure I can explain this to a 3 year old, but here's trying...

They arrived, stripped down to their uniforms, and were allowed to march.  That's it.  Any "outrage", ridiculous as it is, should be directed solely at the organizers, not at the performers.

The dancers made a conscious decision to perform.  They were not contracted to perform or legally or morally obligated to perform in any way. Therefore, they are not absolved of any responsibility for they reactions they received.  I unquestionably support their right to have been allowed to performed, just as I support the rights of the audience to enjoy or be disgusted by the performance and to make their pleasure or displeasure known. whether or not they were invited has nothing to do with it.


Also, don't be a dick because I'm trying to understand what you so vaguely hinted at. Your post could have had more than a few intended messages and I wanted to make sure I understood which one you were actually trying to put across before I debated it.
 
2013-12-23 07:49:36 PM  
A handfull of prudes complained about a slightly questionable performance in some podunk town. According to some of the posts in this thread, this is worse than the Third Reich.
 
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