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(KATU)   And so it begins. Woman files $5M suit against Target   (katu.com) divider line 92
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2013-12-22 07:56:08 AM
If my local Target yesterday was any indication the average shopper has forgiven, forgotten and is double-fisting sale items into their carts.
 
2013-12-22 08:24:00 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: If my local Target yesterday was any indication the average shopper has forgiven, forgotten and is double-fisting sale items into their carts.


Hell, I found out they're giving 10% off your order this weekend due to the security breach.  Not bad for just before Christmas.
 
2013-12-22 08:26:20 AM
Unless Target wasn't fully PCI compliant, this is just a waste of time.

/but I'll take the 10% off as an apology
 
2013-12-22 08:45:33 AM
Yeah, good luck with that, lady. And your damages were what, exactly?
 
2013-12-22 08:46:23 AM

Fear the Clam: Yeah, good luck with that, lady. And your damages were what, exactly?


Emotional pain and suffering.
 
2013-12-22 08:46:32 AM
I wonder if she was using a bank credit/debit card or was she using a Wisconsin Quest card?
 
2013-12-22 08:47:32 AM

Fear the Clam: Yeah, good luck with that, lady. And your damages were what, exactly?


Consumer confidence. In these troubling economic times we MUST keep that index up.

/pay her less than legal fees to go away.
 
2013-12-22 08:47:57 AM
There are a lot of dumbasses involved in that very brief story.
 
2013-12-22 08:50:08 AM
You mad bro??

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Target Dog
 
2013-12-22 08:50:43 AM
I wish I knew how to quit your ridiculously low-priced Up-n-Up Multipurpose solution!


/the double pack now comes with a free contact lens case.
//I go to buy just those, and I'll pay in cash.
 
2013-12-22 08:50:44 AM

johncb76006: I wonder if she was using a bank credit/debit card or was she using a Wisconsin Quest card?


Well, if she was using a Wisconsin Quest card she should probably be investigated for fraud, considering she's from Milwaukie, Oregon, not Milwaukee, WI
 
2013-12-22 08:55:36 AM

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: johncb76006: I wonder if she was using a bank credit/debit card or was she using a Wisconsin Quest card?

Well, if she was using a Wisconsin Quest card she should probably be investigated for fraud, considering she's from Milwaukie, Oregon, not Milwaukee, WI


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2013-12-22 08:57:11 AM

sendtodave: Fear the Clam: Yeah, good luck with that, lady. And your damages were what, exactly?

Emotional pain and suffering.


She was already in a retail outlet between Thanksgiving and New Years. The difference is statistically insignificant.
 
2013-12-22 08:58:32 AM

BunkyBrewman: Unless Target wasn't fully PCI compliant, this is just a waste of time.

/but I'll take the 10% off as an apology



I work in IT,and I've been at consumer companies.    The security is pathetic.

if the DO encrypt PII data,  other systems don't, and the data is just sitting in plain text.  The every marketing department employee has read only access to the data, and that gets left on their laptops.

Horizon BCBS, for example.

none of the big companies properly protect their data from basic internal access, so we can't expect them to protect from external access.

and the response is:

1.  we're going after the thieves.
2.  you're going to get a letter for free credit coverage.
3.  we're going to review our internal stuff.  (and not do anything)

here's a coupon for 10% off.
 
2013-12-22 08:58:40 AM

Pep Streebeck: Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: johncb76006: I wonder if she was using a bank credit/debit card or was she using a Wisconsin Quest card?

Well, if she was using a Wisconsin Quest card she should probably be investigated for fraud, considering she's from Milwaukie, Oregon, not Milwaukee, WI


Does this guy know how to party or what?
 
2013-12-22 09:00:14 AM

BunkyBrewman: Unless Target wasn't fully PCI compliant, this is just a waste of time.

/but I'll take the 10% off as an apology


What does being PCI compliant have to do with anything? If Target was PCI compliant, doesn't that just mean a gang of credit providers have looked at your systems and processes and said, "That's looks good to us." What, legally, does that get you?
 
2013-12-22 09:00:39 AM
From the lawsuit: "On information and belief, Plaintiff's identifying and financial information was disclosed in the data breach."


This will be a fruitless effort. There's about as much identifying information in her lawsuit as one would get from her credit card (name). What do folks think is stored on the mag stripe?

If anything, you suffer a slight inconvenience and wait for your replacement card.

Good luck with your lawsuit, Lisa Purcell.
 
2013-12-22 09:02:09 AM
Five million dollars!

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2013-12-22 09:04:15 AM
Too bad you still have to cough up the other 90%.
 
2013-12-22 09:04:33 AM
Goddamn, I hate people.

I hope the judge refuses to hear her case, but if they do, I hope she gets hit with a hefty bill for wasting the court's time, when the case gets dismissed.
 
2013-12-22 09:05:18 AM
Mo money, mo money, mo-oh money.
 
2013-12-22 09:12:15 AM
Crap like this is why I sometimes give serious consideration to stealing people's identities.  The laws are just so screwed up (though, in fairness, I'm not sure how you could reasonably fix them).

Big companies routinely fail to secure confidential information.  Nothing ever happens to them as a result.
The individual customer gets screwed and has to deal with fraudulent charges - but nobody seems to mind too much.  They go back to shopping at Target or using the PSN just as soon as they can.
The credit card companies just see it as a cost of doing business.

Phishing attacks are easier than ever too - thanks to mobile devices...tablets/cell phones make it much harder to verify any of the technical stuff that is going on behind the scenes.

And getting caught - oh man - it's so hard to get caught.  Someone in my home town stole my credit card number and made a purchase from a store in my town and had it delivered.  I notified my bank so they could 'investigate'.  All they did was verify that *I* hadn't made the charge.  That was the end of their investigation.  I got the money back sure.  The cops all but laughed me at, told me I should probably talk to my bank but they let me fill out a piece of paper.  Hah.  I called the company they ordered from asking to know what address the items were shipped to, after all, it was my order and my credit card - but they had Privacy Policies to protect 'me'.  What a joke.  And when cross borders, it's basically impossible to get caught.
 
2013-12-22 09:12:44 AM
5 million sounds fair. They should just give everyone who has a credit card that much. So, $200 trillion.
 
2013-12-22 09:15:20 AM

rumpelstiltskin: BunkyBrewman: Unless Target wasn't fully PCI compliant, this is just a waste of time.

/but I'll take the 10% off as an apology

What does being PCI compliant have to do with anything? If Target was PCI compliant, doesn't that just mean a gang of credit providers have looked at your systems and processes and said, "That's looks good to us." What, legally, does that get you?


shiat, for all we know Target was still using AGP cards or even ISA.
 
2013-12-22 09:16:43 AM
As long as we continue to graduate 10,000 lawyers per year, there will always bloodsuckers willing to stoop low enough to waste the court's time over frivolous lawsuits.
 
2013-12-22 09:17:35 AM

Satanic_Hamster: rumpelstiltskin: BunkyBrewman: Unless Target wasn't fully PCI compliant, this is just a waste of time.

/but I'll take the 10% off as an apology

What does being PCI compliant have to do with anything? If Target was PCI compliant, doesn't that just mean a gang of credit providers have looked at your systems and processes and said, "That's looks good to us." What, legally, does that get you?

shiat, for all we know Target was still using AGP cards or even ISA.


We'd be lucky if they were VESA compliant.
 
2013-12-22 09:19:44 AM

cc_rider: Goddamn, I hate people.

I hope the judge refuses to hear her case, but if they do, I hope she gets hit with a hefty bill for wasting the court's time, when the case gets dismissed.


Should she also apologize to Target for her outburst of anger that her assumed secure financial data has been comprimised? Should she also beg forgiveness that she even decided to challenge the power of a highly profitable company like Target?

/5 million dollars may seem like an excessive amount to ask for, but it got the attention of the media who now have to report on another "Oops" by a company that should have much better security and up to date computer systems but don't because profits take a front seat ahead of customer data security
 
2013-12-22 09:20:17 AM
I am not a fan of "emotional pain and suffering" lawsuits, and doubt if she will ever win 2 cents.

OTOH, I wouldn't mind seeing Target of some big retailer get hit, hard, for lack of data security. Maybe if the penalty is enough to hit their stock price and management bonuses, they will finally take data security seriously.

Of course TJ Max got tagged for a bit penalty for their fiasco, and that didn't seem to do it. At least we know that $40M is not the right number.
 
2013-12-22 09:25:05 AM
Stop lawyers from taking cases on contingency and most of these ridiculous suits will disappear.
 
2013-12-22 09:36:12 AM

BunkyBrewman: Unless Target wasn't fully PCI compliant, this is just a waste of time.

/but I'll take the 10% off as an apology


You pass PCI compliance by having an "auditor" come in and help you check boxes on a form.
For example, PCI compliance requires everyone at my company to change passwords every 90 days, minimum seven characters, has to have three of the four uppercase, lowercase, numbers, symbols, can't contain the username, etc etc.  Seems at least kind of secure, right?  Nope.  2/3rds of the passwords in our building are a dictionary (or other easily guessable) word with a number after it, and when it's time to change the password, the user increments the number.  But hey, we're PCI compliant!
 
2013-12-22 09:37:46 AM

TheBlackFlag: Stop lawyers from taking cases on contingency and most of these ridiculous suits will disappear.


Stop corporations from being lax with consumer information and these suits would also disappear
 
2013-12-22 09:39:36 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I called the company they ordered from asking to know what address the items were shipped to, after all, it was my order and my credit card - but they had Privacy Policies to protect 'me'. What a joke.


They're actually doing that to protect themselves from liability. If you had decided to grab your gun and head over to Thievy McThieverys shipping address and get yourself/him shot, they'd be legally liable for giving you the means (the shipping address) to do that.

Also, a lot of crooks use the shipping address of an innocent person in their neighborhood and intercept the package before it gets dropped off at the door ("yeah, I'm Fark_Guy_Rob, I'll sign for that").
 
2013-12-22 09:47:50 AM

TheBlackFlag: Stop lawyers from taking cases on contingency


So only rich people should be able to sue when there's a genuine case?
 
2013-12-22 09:49:15 AM
Password! is an awesome password.
 
2013-12-22 10:01:05 AM
Lisa Purcell , since it seems at looking at those previous comment I am so far the only individual here that does not work for Target or represent them , yes indeed suing such companies seems the only way to hold such companies(Target) responsible for such incompetent way of handling a customers personnel financial  info. and hopefully (but doubtful) the company(Target) will in the future be held to more competent ,professional and business minded standard in the 21st century! However now seeing and reading about the mentality level of Target it seems they would like to stay mentally in the 20th century!
 
2013-12-22 10:26:34 AM

TheGreatGazoo: Password! is an awesome password.


Better than 123456.

/My old professor's account password for the university Linux system
//Yes, I told him about idiots and luggage
 
2013-12-22 10:27:12 AM
The level of derp in the comments of that article is strong.
 
2013-12-22 10:32:01 AM
I've already been affected by this; someone stole my credit card info this past week and used to buy gallon jugs of Milk Duds and porn VHS tapes, the bastard.

/okay, it was me
 
2013-12-22 10:32:54 AM

jankyboy: From the lawsuit: "On information and belief, Plaintiff's identifying and financial information was disclosed in the data breach."


This will be a fruitless effort. There's about as much identifying information in her lawsuit as one would get from her credit card (name). What do folks think is stored on the mag stripe?

If anything, you suffer a slight inconvenience and wait for your replacement card.

Good luck with your lawsuit, Lisa Purcell.


Yeah if anything I'd think the banks or stores should be the ones suing, the credit card holder won't be held accountable for those fraudulent charges. Do stores ever get like a charge back, who's eating the loss here?
 
2013-12-22 10:35:41 AM
Good. The amount she is seeking sounds like bullshiat but they failed to protect sensitive data and the result is millions of people being harmed. Time to pay the piper assholes.
 
2013-12-22 10:41:12 AM
I actually like K mart. They are kind and helpful, the place isn't over run with zombies and morons, and they actually seem to care that you like to shop there. That being said, Target isn't bad, but they are approaching Wal Mart volume of customers. That keeps me away.
 
2013-12-22 10:43:24 AM

Cyrus the Mediocre: I've already been affected by this; someone stole my credit card info this past week and used to buy gallon jugs of Milk Duds and porn VHS tapes, the bastard.

/okay, it was me


You have to PAY for VHS tapes of any kind? Out here boxes of them appear on Freecycle every week. ;)
 
2013-12-22 10:45:46 AM

NutWrench: Fark_Guy_Rob: I called the company they ordered from asking to know what address the items were shipped to, after all, it was my order and my credit card - but they had Privacy Policies to protect 'me'. What a joke.

They're actually doing that to protect themselves from liability. If you had decided to grab your gun and head over to Thievy McThieverys shipping address and get yourself/him shot, they'd be legally liable for giving you the means (the shipping address) to do that.

Also, a lot of crooks use the shipping address of an innocent person in their neighborhood and intercept the package before it gets dropped off at the door ("yeah, I'm Fark_Guy_Rob, I'll sign for that").


Absolutely - but in doing so, they are also protecting the crooks.  They won't act without a court order.  Cops don't care, they've got actual violent criminals and drunk drivers and all that crap to worry about....and, hey, what's the big deal?  Just talk to your bank!  Bank doesn't care either, it would probably cost more to investigate than to just issue a new credit card?  I'm sure they have some process where things bubble up enough and become a problem - large well organized criminal groups that are committing fraud (same with the police, I know they have special units and all that jazz).  But the waitress that writes down your credit card number and orders some clothes off the internet - she gets a free pass.
 
2013-12-22 10:55:30 AM

NickelP: Good. The amount she is seeking sounds like bullshiat but they failed to protect sensitive data and the result is millions of people being harmed. Time to pay the piper assholes.


Harmed as in they had to call their CC company and request a new card. Then they probably had to dig up some checks, go to the bank and get some cash, or use a different CC for a few days. Oh no.Those poor people have lost so much.
 
2013-12-22 11:03:37 AM

RedPhoenix122: Satanic_Hamster: rumpelstiltskin: BunkyBrewman: Unless Target wasn't fully PCI compliant, this is just a waste of time.

/but I'll take the 10% off as an apology

What does being PCI compliant have to do with anything? If Target was PCI compliant, doesn't that just mean a gang of credit providers have looked at your systems and processes and said, "That's looks good to us." What, legally, does that get you?

shiat, for all we know Target was still using AGP cards or even ISA.

We'd be lucky if they were VESA compliant.


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2013-12-22 11:04:53 AM
As I mentioned in a previous thread, I cancelled my Red Card after trying for over a day and a half of getting nothing but busy signals and suspiciously convenient (for Target) disconnected calls while on hold. It was bad enough that they let some still not yet known scumbag (this whole thing reeks of Inside Job) pull this off, but the absolute bungling way Target handled this crisis, and the gobsmacking cherry on the top was Target offering customers a mere 10% discount for one weekend only (oh sure, give those thieves a REAL incentive to go nuts with their stolen cards. DUMBASS!)

That was the last straw for me. The thieves have no souls, but the actions of Target are only making the crooks win even more this Christmas.

I really am re-thinking things and wondering if I should just go straight cash from now on.
 
2013-12-22 11:05:39 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: If my local Target yesterday was any indication the average shopper has forgiven, forgotten and is double-fisting sale items into their carts.


Pray for the Divine Asteroid. May it's arrival cleanse the Cosmos.
 
2013-12-22 11:08:29 AM
I'm really puzzled by the pro-Target attitude of these comments. Do they really think Target should just be allowed to get away with this bungling and not endure any consequences for it? Nothing at all?
 
2013-12-22 11:11:30 AM

BunkyBrewman: Unless Target wasn't fully PCI compliant, this is just a waste of time.

/but I'll take the 10% off as an apology


You can be 100% PCI compliant and still have shiat for security.  Look at PCI, and then look at HIPPA. Until some congresscritter or their spouse gets nailed we won't have meaningful security regulations.  Now explain to me again why we don't have <i>real</i> two-factor authentication when it comes to payment cards?
 
2013-12-22 11:13:58 AM

TV's Vinnie: I'm really puzzled by the pro-Target attitude of these comments. Do they really think Target should just be allowed to get away with this bungling and not endure any consequences for it? Nothing at all?


I know you're a bit of a trolling douche, but what exactly do you think should happen?

I business was, effectively, robbed/broke into.  There's no apparent direct damage to any consumers as of yet.  Why should a particular consumer get a massive payout?  Under her logic, if every "stolen" card number is worth 5 million, should every card holder get that?
 
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