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(Onion AV Club)   The Onion's AV Club revisits the Ninth Doctor, the character meant to bring Doctor Who to modern audiences. No, not that one. Or that one, either   (avclub.com) divider line 33
    More: Interesting, A.V., Doctor Who, physicians, Shalka, Richard E. Grant, Paul McGann, Jon Pertwee, onions  
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2013-12-22 09:40:29 AM  
Heh... Grant has a unique place in Who-dom. He's played the "Tenth" Doctor, then the "Ninth" Doctor, THEN the Doctor's adversary in "The Snowmen" last year.
 
2013-12-22 10:52:41 AM  
I liked him as the Great Intelligence.  "The Snowmen" is easily the best Doctor Who Christmas special.  Haven't seen the others, though.
 
2013-12-22 11:07:30 AM  
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2013-12-22 11:19:50 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: [fc00.deviantart.net image 850x515]


Who was William Fall? And what did he say that was so offensive that he should be should be silenced for it?
 
2013-12-22 12:33:38 PM  
Went to a Doctor Who convention in Chicago and was overwhelmed at the display of audio stories by "Big FInish".  Even if I wanted to get into them, just seeing the sheer volume of choices sort of paralyzed me.  Anybody listen to these, and do you like any in particular?
 
2013-12-22 12:34:04 PM  

Metaluna Mutant: Satanic_Hamster: [fc00.deviantart.net image 850x515]

Who was William Fall? And what did he say that was so offensive that he should be should be silenced for it?


"Colin Baker was better than Tom."
 
2013-12-22 12:46:54 PM  

Metaluna Mutant: Satanic_Hamster: [fc00.deviantart.net image 850x515]

Who was William Fall? And what did he say that was so offensive that he should be should be silenced for it?


www.funnysigns.net
 
2013-12-22 12:56:57 PM  
If I wanted to start watching, where should I begin?  The original episodes? The Christopher Eccleston season?  The movies?  David Tennant seasons?
 
2013-12-22 12:58:54 PM  

jlevine: If I wanted to start watching, where should I begin?  The original episodes? The Christopher Eccleston season?  The movies?  David Tennant seasons?


Start w/ the coming Xmas special for the new Doctor.  Catch up on the Eccleston and on seasons later if you like it and have the time.
 
2013-12-22 01:16:33 PM  
I was a bit disappointed that Moffat didn't take the opportunity to use "The Name of the Doctor" to re-canonise the Shalka Doctor -- particularly given that Simeon / the Great Intelligence had nearly the same costume as the Shalka Doctor.

When the Great Intelligence / Simeon jumps into the Doctor's time stream and starts farking with, that was the perfect time to create a briefly-extant alternate universe with the Shalka Doctor and Alison (whose actress also played Liz Ten).
 
2013-12-22 01:19:17 PM  

jlevine: If I wanted to start watching, where should I begin?


It's always easiest to start with a regeneration. The first Eccleston episode, the first Tennant episode, the first Smith episode. Each one sort of re-establishes the character.

Satanic_Hamster: Start w/ the coming Xmas special for the new Doctor.


I don't think Capaldi's going to feature heavily- I'd argue against starting with this Christmas Special. It's going to be a payoff for a lot of the dangling plot threads and will likely be very continuity heavy. Next year is probably where Capaldi will really start.
 
2013-12-22 01:25:33 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: jlevine: If I wanted to start watching, where should I begin?  The original episodes? The Christopher Eccleston season?  The movies?  David Tennant seasons?

Start w/ the coming Xmas special for the new Doctor.  Catch up on the Eccleston and on seasons later if you like it and have the time.


Nah. No use doing that, because Capaldi will probably only appear in the last few minutes. Regenerations are usually about the death of the outgoing Doctor, not the coming of the new one, so if you don't know the outgoing Doctor, why would you care? And OP will have until Easter to catch up on Who, so best to start with Eccleston, and by the time the Easter special comes around he'll be ready for Capaldi.
 
2013-12-22 01:33:35 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Satanic_Hamster: jlevine: If I wanted to start watching, where should I begin?  The original episodes? The Christopher Eccleston season?  The movies?  David Tennant seasons?

Start w/ the coming Xmas special for the new Doctor.  Catch up on the Eccleston and on seasons later if you like it and have the time.

Nah. No use doing that, because Capaldi will probably only appear in the last few minutes. Regenerations are usually about the death of the outgoing Doctor, not the coming of the new one, so if you don't know the outgoing Doctor, why would you care? And OP will have until Easter to catch up on Who, so best to start with Eccleston, and by the time the Easter special comes around he'll be ready for Capaldi.


Not Easter, got all of spring and summer. New episodes don't start until August.
 
2013-12-22 01:37:53 PM  

Richard_The_Clown: FirstNationalBastard: Satanic_Hamster: jlevine: If I wanted to start watching, where should I begin?  The original episodes? The Christopher Eccleston season?  The movies?  David Tennant seasons?

Start w/ the coming Xmas special for the new Doctor.  Catch up on the Eccleston and on seasons later if you like it and have the time.

Nah. No use doing that, because Capaldi will probably only appear in the last few minutes. Regenerations are usually about the death of the outgoing Doctor, not the coming of the new one, so if you don't know the outgoing Doctor, why would you care? And OP will have until Easter to catch up on Who, so best to start with Eccleston, and by the time the Easter special comes around he'll be ready for Capaldi.

Not Easter, got all of spring and summer. New episodes don't start until August.


Ah, okay.

I had been hearing rumors of an Easter episode, but August straight through is just as good.

So then if S8 isn't debuting until Fall 2014, definitely start with Eccleston.
 
2013-12-22 02:17:01 PM  

Any Pie Left: Went to a Doctor Who convention in Chicago and was overwhelmed at the display of audio stories by "Big FInish".  Even if I wanted to get into them, just seeing the sheer volume of choices sort of paralyzed me.  Anybody listen to these, and do you like any in particular?


I feel your pain.  Honestly -- and I know people will disagree with me -- I'd almost advise starting with the 50th Anniversary Special, The Light At the End.  It features all the living classic Doctors (Tom Baker, Davison, Colin Baker, McCoy, McGann), some classic companions (e.g. Leela, Ace), Geoffrey Beevers as the Master, and so on.  It's not continuity-heavy at all with respect to the BF line, so you don't need to have heard previous audios to follow it.  It's a decent story.  And the multi-Doctor interaction is good; in particular the Tom Baker/McGann pairing is pure magic.

As an alternative, start with the beginning of the 8th Doctor range.  You might also look into the older stories of the main range; the first fifty are available for download for just a couple of bucks each, I believe.
 
2013-12-22 02:18:57 PM  
Not for nothin' but Paul McGann was not a terrible doctor. Too bad he only had the one movie.  Yes, that movie was kind of awful, but it wasn't as bad as some Who episodes (like the one with the TV antennas in the second series of new Who? Christ, that was awful.)

He was real easy on the eyes, too.
 
2013-12-22 02:21:45 PM  

bborchar: I liked him as the Great Intelligence.  "The Snowmen" is easily the best Doctor Who Christmas special.  Haven't seen the others, though.


I really liked A Christmas Carol. It had a great guest star, the story was a lot of fun, and it used time travel really well.
 
2013-12-22 02:26:55 PM  
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...Or this one.

/Obscure?
 
2013-12-22 02:37:55 PM  

Needlessly Complicated: Not for nothin' but Paul McGann was not a terrible doctor. Too bad he only had the one movie.  Yes, that movie was kind of awful, but it wasn't as bad as some Who episodes (like the one with the TV antennas in the second series of new Who? Christ, that was awful.)

He was real easy on the eyes, too.


His audio stories are awesome, and of course Night of the Doctor was just amazing.
 
2013-12-22 03:32:11 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Metaluna Mutant: Satanic_Hamster: [fc00.deviantart.net image 850x515]

Who was William Fall? And what did he say that was so offensive that he should be should be silenced for it?

[www.funnysigns.net image 400x274]


www.vancitybuzz.com
 
2013-12-22 04:00:39 PM  

Needlessly Complicated: Not for nothin' but Paul McGann was not a terrible doctor. Too bad he only had the one movie.  Yes, that movie was kind of awful, but it wasn't as bad as some Who episodes (like the one with the TV antennas in the second series of new Who? Christ, that was awful.)

He was real easy on the eyes, too.


No one thinks he was a terrible Doctor. Lots of people think he got screwed by a terrible script.
 
2013-12-22 04:31:29 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: I was a bit disappointed that Moffat didn't take the opportunity to use "The Name of the Doctor" to re-canonise the Shalka Doctor -- particularly given that Simeon / the Great Intelligence had nearly the same costume as the Shalka Doctor.

When the Great Intelligence / Simeon jumps into the Doctor's time stream and starts farking with, that was the perfect time to create a briefly-extant alternate universe with the Shalka Doctor and Alison (whose actress also played Liz Ten).


So much this. It would also explain why he was the crazy guy working for the Great Intelligence in the Christmas episode; since Clara was scattered throughout his timeline and kept popping up in different forms, why not him?

But Moffat sucks.
 
2013-12-22 07:12:03 PM  

Needlessly Complicated: Not for nothin' but Paul McGann was not a terrible doctor. Too bad he only had the one movie.  Yes, that movie was kind of awful, but it wasn't as bad as some Who episodes (like the one with the TV antennas in the second series of new Who? Christ, that was awful.)

He was real easy on the eyes, too.


I'm guessing you're the last to get the memo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U3jrS-uhuo
 
2013-12-22 07:51:45 PM  

Mad_Radhu: bborchar: I liked him as the Great Intelligence.  "The Snowmen" is easily the best Doctor Who Christmas special.  Haven't seen the others, though.

I really liked A Christmas Carol. It had a great guest star, the story was a lot of fun, and it used time travel really well.


I just realized that it sounded like I haven't seen the rest of the Christmas specials with the way I worded that.  I liked "A Christmas Carol" a lot, too- it's my second favorite Christmas special.  The rest are middling to awful.
 
2013-12-22 09:09:20 PM  
I thought A Christmas Carol was a beautiful story, with a great cast and gorgeous visuals.

I also thought it was a terrible Doctor Who episode.
 
2013-12-22 10:54:15 PM  

Shadowtag: Needlessly Complicated: Not for nothin' but Paul McGann was not a terrible doctor. Too bad he only had the one movie.  Yes, that movie was kind of awful, but it wasn't as bad as some Who episodes (like the one with the TV antennas in the second series of new Who? Christ, that was awful.)

He was real easy on the eyes, too.

I'm guessing you're the last to get the memo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U3jrS-uhuo


thanks, I didn't get the memo either.......
 
2013-12-22 11:55:54 PM  
The guard with the Scottish accent who gets in their way?

Noice.

I'm guessing you're the last to get the memo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U3jrS-uhuo


Anyone who hasn't seen that yet needs to see that.

/See also: "The 5(ish) Doctors."
 
2013-12-23 12:03:39 AM  

NYRBill: Shadowtag: Needlessly Complicated: Not for nothin' but Paul McGann was not a terrible doctor. Too bad he only had the one movie.  Yes, that movie was kind of awful, but it wasn't as bad as some Who episodes (like the one with the TV antennas in the second series of new Who? Christ, that was awful.)

He was real easy on the eyes, too.

I'm guessing you're the last to get the memo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U3jrS-uhuo

thanks, I didn't get the memo either.......


He also did something like 65 audio plays as the 8th Doctor as well.  The 30+ were part of the monthly series, and then they did 4 "seasons" of "The New Eight Doctor Adventures"
 
2013-12-23 08:46:24 AM  
Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman:

He also did something like 65 audio plays as the 8th Doctor as well.  The 30+ were part of the monthly series, and then they did 4 "seasons" of "The New Eight Doctor Adventures"


He's still doing them isn't he? McGann has pretty much never stopped playing the Doctor in one form or another. His character has always been a little too vague for my tastes but his audios are decent. I think Colin Baker fares best out of all the classic Doctors on audio. Poor guy never stood a chance on the original series.

/ The Big Finish 50th anniversary multi-Doctor story was a lot of fun
 
2013-12-23 02:41:51 PM  
Doctor Who Audio recommendations:

The Holy Terror
The Mutant Phase
Sword of Orion
Colditz
The One Doctor
Invaders from Mars
Seasons of Fear
Spare Parts
Jubilee
Omega
Unregenerate
Singularity
The Kingmaker
The Haunting of Thomas Brewster
The Crimes of Thomas Brewster
The Wrong Doctors
 
2013-12-23 02:56:42 PM  

Any Pie Left: Went to a Doctor Who convention in Chicago and was overwhelmed at the display of audio stories by "Big FInish".  Even if I wanted to get into them, just seeing the sheer volume of choices sort of paralyzed me.  Anybody listen to these, and do you like any in particular?


They're fun, obviously not as grand and dense as the TV show.  But it's just fun to hear new episodes with some of the old casts.  I think Colin Baker and Sylvester mcCoy, in particular, got a nice chance to really expand on their particular incarnations.  The Paul McGann stories are fun, too.  I haven't heard any of the new Tom Baker ones yet.
 
2013-12-23 03:11:55 PM  
Colin Baker's Doctor is sooo much better in the audios.
 
2013-12-23 04:09:48 PM  

Weisenheimer: Colin Baker's Doctor is sooo much better in the audios.


So much this.

Johnny_Whistle: I haven't heard any of the new Tom Baker ones yet.


They're pretty good, and we've gotten some pretty cool news regarding those too: (1) He's actually going to do some with Lalla Ward, and (2) Philip Hinchcliffe is writing some new stories for him, meant to be done in the style of the Hinchcliffe era of Who.

Big Finish is just tremendous.  Not many fandoms get the luxury of new stories featuring the original cast members.  It'd be like Star Wars audios with Ford, Fisher and Hamill, or Trek audios featuring Shatner and Nimoy.
 
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