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2013-12-22 12:10:35 AM  
A couple of those are pretty cool, in particular Oculus Rift and the Omni. Could 2014 be when PC gaming comes back in full force? I'm not entirely certain but the PS4 and Xbox One could get completely f*cking eaten by PC gaming if the Rift is successful.

I'll believe the Virgin Galactic thing when it actually happens.

The Jet Pack will never be ubiquitous and there are way too many considerations and rules with respect to commercial aviation. Basically anyone who could afford such an aircraft likely lives in a zone where flying such an aircraft.

Thermochromic shirts are pretty neat tech but IMO not entirely ready for primetime. Most of those shirts simply look like sweat marks, and few people would know how to use them. There are some shirts coming out with built in heartbeat monitors, those seem pretty cool. There are also some smart socks that take stock of your pace and some other running things.

IBM's Watson in the Cloud - not sure how this is going to pan out in the end.

I'm surprised there has been no discussion of google glass or its competitors either. There's Meta, whose glasses are a trifle expensive but have some really cool features.

No conversation about the explosive potential of 3D printing either.
 
2013-12-22 01:13:13 AM  

bdub77: I'll believe the Virgin Galactic thing when it actually happens.


They've already got it under powered flight testing.  At this point, it's really just a matter of burning it longer and making it go higher.  It'll happen.
 
2013-12-22 01:36:00 AM  

Radak: bdub77: I'll believe the Virgin Galactic thing when it actually happens.

They've already got it under powered flight testing.  At this point, it's really just a matter of burning it longer and making it go higher.  It'll happen.


I'm not saying it won't happen, just not sure it'll happen by the end of next year. But I'm just as interested in any others, even though I'll probably never be able to afford a flight up there.
 
2013-12-22 01:49:14 AM  

bdub77: I'm not saying it won't happen, just not sure it'll happen by the end of next year.


Okay, I'm with you there.  Their timeline says they'll be doing commercial flights late 2014, but of course the same timeline once said they'd be doing them in 2012.  Or was that 2011?  :)

But I'm just as interested in any others, even though I'll probably never be able to afford a flight up there.

Forever is a long time.  I mean, unless you're already 90.

/I feel like I am
 
2013-12-22 02:01:33 AM  
No

We've been in FUTURE TECH 1 since at least 2011. 2014 is when we get enough science points to advance to FUTURE TECH 2.
 
2013-12-22 02:06:40 AM  
Martin's jetpack

Like every other device labeled a "jetpack", there are no actual jets involved. Though a turbofan seems like an upgrade from a chemical rocket.
 
2013-12-22 03:08:57 AM  

bdub77: I'm not entirely certain but the PS4 and Xbox One could get completely f*cking eaten by PC gaming if the Rift is successful.


My 10-year-old son doesn't want a PS4 or Xbone, he wants the Rift.
 
2013-12-22 03:39:07 AM  

bdub77: A couple of those are pretty cool, in particular Oculus Rift and the Omni. Could 2014 be when PC gaming comes back in full force? I'm not entirely certain but the PS4 and Xbox One could get completely f*cking eaten by PC gaming if the Rift is successful.


It's a $300-400 accessory for gaming that would probably still get at least some of the people pretty motion sick even after the kinks are worked out.

I am not convinced that it will become mainstream.
 
2013-12-22 05:03:14 AM  
They don't even believe in climate change, how could we possibly have flying cars?
The closest thing are drones.
 
2013-12-22 06:22:15 AM  
One thing bothers me about the Rift. really really bothers me.

falling in a game.

I don't know why it bothers me so bad but it does. going back to at least the original Half Life, I get sick to my stomach when I fall from a great height in a video game. I haven't bought Bioshock infinite mostly because of that. I can only imagine how much worse the feeling would be for me if I was wearing a Rift.
 
2013-12-22 07:46:32 AM  

log_jammin: One thing bothers me about the Rift. really really bothers me.

falling in a game.

I don't know why it bothers me so bad but it does. going back to at least the original Half Life, I get sick to my stomach when I fall from a great height in a video game. I haven't bought Bioshock infinite mostly because of that. I can only imagine how much worse the feeling would be for me if I was wearing a Rift.


You would enjoy Aaaaaah! A Reckless Disregard for Gravity then. NOW WITH RIFT SUPPORT!
 
2013-12-22 08:09:16 AM  
No, it's 2015 when the future arrives.

/I want to go back to 1985
 
2013-12-22 08:11:01 AM  
Did I just go from a news aggregator to an ad aggregator?
 
2013-12-22 08:26:48 AM  
well, the Wealthy do need their toys and their egos stroked.   overheard: hey, maybe we can f*ck in space too?  won't that be cool!


the Real Question is 'how much tax money was wasted on this project so rich folks can play in space?'


the reason i mention tax money is because it is clear that 95% of the population won't be able to afford a trip on this jet.
 
2013-12-22 08:31:00 AM  
My watch says that the future arrives every second of every day.
 
2013-12-22 08:32:41 AM  
The Irony is that all this technology for space travel was created by the Government.  now, private industry is profiting off of it. you'll never hear a crony capitalist republican mention that fact, though.  they don't know anything about it since the government is so evil.


what say you to that, republican Socialists???   i can't hear you.........................
 
2013-12-22 08:34:52 AM  
Seriously?People still want flying cars?
Now, a hover board, I'll take that in a heartbeat.
 
2013-12-22 08:38:46 AM  
I read a whole Rift article and still don't get why Rift is special. They have a founder who is well-versed in VR, they have funding, there are high-res light-weight display screens, but all those things should be readily available to any gaming company these days.
 
2013-12-22 08:40:52 AM  

nytmare: I read a whole Rift article and still don't get why Rift is special. They have a founder who is well-versed in VR, they have funding, there are high-res light-weight display screens, but all those things should be readily available to any gaming company these days.


It also has head-tracking ability, you move your head and your view changes. Also, looks like quite a few games are looking to support it.
Star Citizen is going big on it. I'd like to have one, personally.
 
2013-12-22 08:41:59 AM  

bdub77: A couple of those are pretty cool, in particular Oculus Rift and the Omni. Could 2014 be when PC gaming comes back in full force? I'm not entirely certain but the PS4 and Xbox One could get completely f*cking eaten by PC gaming if the Rift is successful.

I'll believe the Virgin Galactic thing when it actually happens.

The Jet Pack will never be ubiquitous and there are way too many considerations and rules with respect to commercial aviation. Basically anyone who could afford such an aircraft likely lives in a zone where flying such an aircraft.

Thermochromic shirts are pretty neat tech but IMO not entirely ready for primetime. Most of those shirts simply look like sweat marks, and few people would know how to use them. There are some shirts coming out with built in heartbeat monitors, those seem pretty cool. There are also some smart socks that take stock of your pace and some other running things.

IBM's Watson in the Cloud - not sure how this is going to pan out in the end.

I'm surprised there has been no discussion of google glass or its competitors either. There's Meta, whose glasses are a trifle expensive but have some really cool features.

No conversation about the explosive potential of 3D printing either.


That's a subject we kinda try to avoid around here.
 
2013-12-22 08:48:33 AM  

RexTalionis: bdub77: A couple of those are pretty cool, in particular Oculus Rift and the Omni. Could 2014 be when PC gaming comes back in full force? I'm not entirely certain but the PS4 and Xbox One could get completely f*cking eaten by PC gaming if the Rift is successful.

It's a $300-400 accessory for gaming that would probably still get at least some of the people pretty motion sick even after the kinks are worked out.

I am not convinced that it will become mainstream.


This. It has serious issues on the biological side. The tech is ready, but that doesn't mean that people can handle it.

/Has a Rift dev kit
//Can't use it because of motion sickness
///Waiting for my Meta dev kit
 
2013-12-22 08:54:18 AM  
What the hell even IS "the future"?  Seattle hipsters and New Delhi autorickshaw drivers alike carry mobile phones with greater computing ability than NASA in the 60's.  A popular film actor has hired a privately-owned satellite to discover evidence of atrocities in an African dictatorship.  The American spy agency has the technical capacity to monitor and analyze virtually every piece of telecommunications traffic on the planet.  In Bangladesh, garment workers making $1/day are locked in firetrap dormitories while producing $5 baby onesies for the children of American Walmart shoppers who make $10 an hour.

William Gibson was understating wildly when he said "the future is already here, it's just unevenly distributed".
 
2013-12-22 08:56:07 AM  

nytmare: I read a whole Rift article and still don't get why Rift is special. They have a founder who is well-versed in VR, they have funding, there are high-res light-weight display screens, but all those things should be readily available to any gaming company these days.


The mechanics and systems in video games should, ideally, be about giving the most direct control to the user possible.  Right now, we can only offer that control through controllers, joysticks, buttons, and other abstractions of that movement.  When the Rift gets onto the market, it will be the most direct control that consumer technology can currently offer to people, with one-to-one head-tracking and more functionality built on that premise to come later, whether the Omni, or one-to-one motion-tracking with gloves, or whatever.  In a nutshell, it's the first step on the road to true virtual reality.
 
2013-12-22 09:01:48 AM  

bdub77: A couple of those are pretty cool, in particular Oculus Rift and the Omni. Could 2014 be when PC gaming comes back in full force? I'm not entirely certain but the PS4 and Xbox One could get completely f*cking eaten by PC gaming if the Rift is successful.


I think the Rift will be successful with PC gamers but not enough for PC gaming to overtake consoles. With the XB1/PS4 you're talking about a $500 investment to play the best games on their respective platforms for at least the next 5 years. A gaming PC + Rift is a much larger investment and that cost difference may be a barrier to entry to all but the most diehard. I think if anything we're more likely to see a pared down version of the Rift built for the lower powered consoles.

With that said, the Steambox could be the PC gaming Trojan Horse. I hate its controller but conceptually it could be a game changer.
 
2013-12-22 09:15:57 AM  

bdub77: No conversation about the explosive potential of 3D printing either.


2014 is a bit early, IMO. I think 3d printing will be a hobbyist / specialist item for some time yet, just like personal computers were. Maybe next decade.

...but the potential ...yeah, it's there all right.
 
2013-12-22 09:18:55 AM  

spiritplumber: No, it's 2015 when the future arrives.

/I want to go back to 1985


People would go crazy if things went back to the way things were in 1985. No smartphones. No personal computers at home as common as they are now. And if so, no high speed internet to connect to. Please be kind, rewind. Majority of daily office work involved hard copies. Data entry not common enough.
 
2013-12-22 09:20:29 AM  
"Thermochromic shirts are pretty neat tech but IMO not entirely ready for primetime. Most of those shirts simply look like sweat marks, and few people would know how to use them. There are some shirts coming out with built in heartbeat monitors, those seem pretty cool. There are also some smart socks that take stock of your pace and some other running things. "

They had these back in the 90s briefly, cant remember the name.  Friend of mine had one, until someone pointed out that it was making her boobs quite distinctive.
 
2013-12-22 09:30:41 AM  
A friend of mine bought the local franchise rights to sell thermochromic shirts a long time ago -- I'm thinking at least 20 years. They didn't catch on then, either.

Maybe the only thing missing was this pellucid description of the technology:

In short, special atoms within the fabric will gain a carbon electron when valence electrons are accelerated through the application of heat, affecting the way that the atoms reflect light-waves. In other words, these products are the first of their kind.

That first sentence -- why would you break out the Star Trek-grade technobabble for a technology that actually exists and works? And the second -- two big lies in 11 words. (First, it's in no sense a rephrasing of whatever they were trying to say before. Second, as I said above, this has been around for a LONG time.)
 
2013-12-22 09:34:50 AM  
I'm pretty excited about the space flights.  Despite the initial high prices, there is a good possibility prices will come down and I will get to go to space before I die.  That is an awesome prospect, IMO.
 
2013-12-22 11:38:08 AM  

Vertdang: nytmare: I read a whole Rift article and still don't get why Rift is special. They have a founder who is well-versed in VR, they have funding, there are high-res light-weight display screens, but all those things should be readily available to any gaming company these days.

It also has head-tracking ability, you move your head and your view changes. Also, looks like quite a few games are looking to support it.
Star Citizen is going big on it. I'd like to have one, personally.


Yeah, the head tracking is key. The current dev kit tracks pitch, roll, and yaw. The rumor is that the next edition of the dev kit (and then the commercial release obviously) will incorporate positional tracking so when you move, it will move. Like, if you're crouched behind a box, and you raise your head, you will peak up over the box. Or if you're at a corner behind a wall you will be able to lean out around the corner by leaning in your seat.

I just finished a first person video remote controlled vehicle project for school that used the motion tracking of the rift to control the movement of servos that the vehicle camera was mounted on. It was a fantastically cool project to work on.
 
2013-12-22 11:55:17 AM  

Nuclear Monk: I'm pretty excited about the space flights.  Despite the initial high prices, there is a good possibility prices will come down and I will get to go to space before I die.  That is an awesome prospect, IMO.


Space Ship 2 has had 2 powered test flights, both of them sub orbital, both of them without passengers.

Space Ship 2 has a maximum altitude of only 68 miles, and you will only experience micro-gravity for 4 minutes or so.

I'm sure the people who bought into PanAm's moon flights thought the same thing as you.

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/Virgin Galactic is a scam for rich people.
//There are companies that will take you for a ride in a vomit comet and give you hours of zero G for that kind of cash.
 
2013-12-22 12:31:23 PM  
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Does it mean I can get her?

If so, I welcome the future!
 
2013-12-22 12:41:01 PM  
Gennera Hypercolor is back
 
2013-12-22 02:53:13 PM  
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35 posts and still no FLYING CARS i was PROMISED some FLYING CARS!
 
2013-12-22 03:39:24 PM  

cman: No

We've been in FUTURE TECH 1 since at least 2011. 2014 is when we get enough science points to advance to FUTURE TECH 2.


Have you launched your ship to Alpha Centari yet?


spiritplumber: No, it's 2015 when the future arrives.

/I want to go back to 1985


Here you go
 
2013-12-22 05:45:47 PM  

No Such Agency: What the hell even IS "the future"?  Seattle hipsters and New Delhi autorickshaw drivers alike carry mobile phones with greater computing ability than NASA in the 60's.  A popular film actor has hired a privately-owned satellite to discover evidence of atrocities in an African dictatorship.  The American spy agency has the technical capacity to monitor and analyze virtually every piece of telecommunications traffic on the planet.  In Bangladesh, garment workers making $1/day are locked in firetrap dormitories while producing $5 baby onesies for the children of American Walmart shoppers who make $10 an hour.

William Gibson was understating wildly when he said "the future is already here, it's just unevenly distributed".


nice observation
 
2013-12-22 07:02:14 PM  

bdub77: No conversation about the explosive potential of 3D printing either.


Oh yeah yeah, everything's gonna change in 2014. The leisure society will be upon us, poverty just a historical footnote, no more needy.
 
2013-12-22 08:02:29 PM  

fusillade762: Martin's jetpack

Like every other device labeled a "jetpack", there are no actual jets involved. Though a turbofan seems like an upgrade from a chemical rocket.


I'm still waiting for Rowan & Martin's jetpack.
 
2013-12-23 12:36:08 AM  

jfarkinB: A friend of mine bought the local franchise rights to sell thermochromic shirts a long time ago -- I'm thinking at least 20 years. They didn't catch on then, either.

Maybe the only thing missing was this pellucid description of the technology:

In short, special atoms within the fabric will gain a carbon electron when valence electrons are accelerated through the application of heat, affecting the way that the atoms reflect light-waves. In other words, these products are the first of their kind.

That first sentence -- why would you break out the Star Trek-grade technobabble for a technology that actually exists and works? And the second -- two big lies in 11 words. (First, it's in no sense a rephrasing of whatever they were trying to say before. Second, as I said above, this has been around for a LONG time.)


Yeah, I just don't get what's so special about it - or why you would even want this tech.  'Oh, look, my shirt is now orange instead of yellow because I am working out hard.'

Aaaaaaaaaaaannnnnd?
 
2013-12-23 12:47:32 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: bdub77: No conversation about the explosive potential of 3D printing either.

Oh yeah yeah, everything's gonna change in 2014. The leisure society will be upon us, poverty just a historical footnote, no more needy.


SERIOUSLY, WHY DO YOU EXIST?
 
2013-12-23 01:17:44 AM  
Flying cars don't mean propellers.

We mean monoploar magnetism.

Could someone get on that already please?
 
2013-12-23 06:40:36 AM  

Mike_LowELL: nytmare: I read a whole Rift article and still don't get why Rift is special. They have a founder who is well-versed in VR, they have funding, there are high-res light-weight display screens, but all those things should be readily available to any gaming company these days.

The mechanics and systems in video games should, ideally, be about giving the most direct control to the user possible.  Right now, we can only offer that control through controllers, joysticks, buttons, and other abstractions of that movement.  When the Rift gets onto the market, it will be the most direct control that consumer technology can currently offer to people, with one-to-one head-tracking and more functionality built on that premise to come later, whether the Omni, or one-to-one motion-tracking with gloves, or whatever.  In a nutshell, it's the first step on the road to true virtual reality.


Why on Earth would I want "true virtual reality"? I play video games so I can sit on my ass and relax, not prance about in a holodeck, trying to dodge imaginary projectiles and pretending I have some semblance of athletic ability.

Unless they come up with a working form of direct brain control, I'll keep my joysticks and mice.

Don't get me wrong, I think the Oculus Rift is awesome, and I'm looking forward to using it for flight-simming, but that Omni thing is laughable as a gaming accessory. I can see the application for VR work training sims ("serious games"), but not for entertainment.
 
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