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2013-12-21 10:45:58 PM  
That's what the wealthy consider "average"
 
2013-12-21 11:26:21 PM  
I don't understand the open duct system.  In some pictures they clearly put in a false ceiling to hide it, but in others it looks they'd run it through a century old warehouse that didn't have central air/heating.  And it's only 10 years old, so that's something they could have architected everyone if they were serious.

Could this be a failed environmentalist experiment in "natural cooling" that just didn't work out?  I'm not sure that story works out, either because there aren't windows.  Maybe a Mexican drug lord homestead that needed retrofitted aircon?

The house makes no sense.
 
2013-12-22 12:02:20 AM  
How is plumbing handled?  I see the filtration system but that doesnt answer all the questions.....

Where does waste go?
Where does fresh water supply come from?
 
2013-12-22 12:55:29 AM  
Oh, lookie! A giant target when the shiat hits the fan.
 
2013-12-22 01:10:55 AM  
Forget nukes, is this pitchfork and torch-proof? Cuz I leveraged my fellow citizens' future for a Bentley
 
2013-12-22 01:12:41 AM  
Was that built by Vault-Tec?
 
2013-12-22 01:13:32 AM  

Frederick: How is plumbing handled?  I see the filtration system but that doesnt answer all the questions.....

Where does waste go?
Where does fresh water supply come from?


If i had to guess i would say a well and a septic tank/system.  that said it could be more advanced than that.
 
2013-12-22 01:14:32 AM  
Stupid, ugly, and kinda freaky. Why does the tourist waiver make me sign that "I am a blonde-haired, blue-eyed virgin who thinks Ayn Rand is sexy." ?
 
2013-12-22 01:14:47 AM  
Got anything for the paranoid and poor?
 
2013-12-22 01:16:41 AM  
Jeez, it's not even below ground.

/I wonder what Raven Rock is worth.
 
2013-12-22 01:19:49 AM  
The security company could break in tomorrow. Bet the passcode is 1234.
 
2013-12-22 01:21:09 AM  

Triumph: Jeez, it's not even below ground.

/I wonder what Raven Rock is worth.


This. It's simply "nuclear rated".

0 is a rating, too.
 
2013-12-22 01:21:36 AM  
I'm paranoid and rich. I literally go to sleep every night thinking about this sort of thing. Of course, in my dreams, it's me and 20 supermodels that are trapped in there after a catastrophic disaster - forced to repopulate to the world. But I'll leave that story for another time.

Anyway, this guy built this thing for the mayan apocalypse. Now that that's past, he's selling it. Won't be able to even get pennies on the dollar. He sould have put it up for sale mid last year.
 
2013-12-22 01:22:34 AM  
Tremors Part 7: The Richening
 
2013-12-22 01:29:05 AM  

Bfett20: Was that built by Vault-Tec?


i50.photobucket.com

Looks too small to have come from Vault-Tec.  Perhaps one of its many competitors?
 
2013-12-22 01:29:37 AM  
Basic FAIL: if you have a spare 10mill why the fark wd you want to set up in the middle of nowhere?

For a quarter the price you cd have a reinforced basement bolthole in LA or SF or wherever, and still have your normal lifestyle until the zombies started marching
 
2013-12-22 01:38:17 AM  
Soooo...I'll be in my bunker?
 
2013-12-22 01:39:08 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Got anything for the paranoid and poor?


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A little more duct tape and you're good to go.
 
2013-12-22 01:39:52 AM  
I think I see Alex Jones's new abode. Maybe Glenn Beck.


walktoanarcade: Tremors Part 7: The Richening


Broke into the wrong goddamn rec room, didn't ya you bastard!
 
2013-12-22 01:40:16 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: Quantum Apostrophe: Got anything for the paranoid and poor?

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A little more duct tape and you're good to go.


Do they sell models without Justin Bieber included?
 
2013-12-22 01:53:48 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: Quantum Apostrophe: Got anything for the paranoid and poor?

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A little more duct tape and you're good to go.


My favorite part is the pizza box door.
 
2013-12-22 01:55:14 AM  
I used to live in that county. There is pretty much no industry there that would support an $11M house, so you'd have to be independently wealthy already and/or have a high-paying job that you can work from anywhere. And it's not in any of the fancier towns in that area that are playgrounds for the rich - Telluride's about an hour and a half away. It's mostly just ranches and working class towns out there. Beautiful, for sure, but they're basically looking for a rich hermit.
 
2013-12-22 01:55:43 AM  
Yeah.  Like a nuclear blast isn't going to just wipe away your 100-foot radio tower, the solar cells, and your helicopter on the helipad ;)
 
2013-12-22 02:02:00 AM  

SpinStopper: Yeah.  Like a nuclear blast isn't going to just wipe away your 100-foot radio tower, the solar cells, and your helicopter on the helipad ;)



The strangest thing about that is the closest major city is Albuquerque, which is about 6 hours away, followed by Denver, which is about 8 hours away, and Phoenix, which is 8 hours in the other direction. Unless America's enemies are looking to take out a few ski resorts, there's nothing within hundreds of miles of that place that anyone would waste a nuclear warhead on.
 
2013-12-22 02:03:29 AM  

shower_in_my_socks: I used to live in that county. There is pretty much no industry there that would support an $11M house, so you'd have to be independently wealthy already and/or have a high-paying job that you can work from anywhere. And it's not in any of the fancier towns in that area that are playgrounds for the rich - Telluride's about an hour and a half away. It's mostly just ranches and working class towns out there. Beautiful, for sure, but they're basically looking for a rich hermit.


I'd love to be a rich hermit someday, but that place is kinda ugly. Guess I'll have to build my own.
 
2013-12-22 02:06:50 AM  

shower_in_my_socks: SpinStopper: Yeah.  Like a nuclear blast isn't going to just wipe away your 100-foot radio tower, the solar cells, and your helicopter on the helipad ;)


The strangest thing about that is the closest major city is Albuquerque, which is about 6 hours away, followed by Denver, which is about 8 hours away, and Phoenix, which is 8 hours in the other direction. Unless America's enemies are looking to take out a few ski resorts, there's nothing within hundreds of miles of that place that anyone would waste a nuclear warhead on.


modernsurvivalonline.com

America's enemies are American.
 
2013-12-22 02:17:49 AM  

Lochsteppe: I'd love to be a rich hermit someday, but that place is kinda ugly. Guess I'll have to build my own.


In the bunker-as-house world, I would much rather have THIS PLACE.
 
2013-12-22 02:31:00 AM  
What's the point of spending eleven plus million dollars on a structure to survive radiation fallout if you don't have on site ways to clean water, grow food, and produce reliable electricity. The absolute bare minimum needs to include a geothermal heat pump, fallout protected gardening facilities, rain water purification, and some sort of flowing waterwheel based power.

/a helipad? really? who cares about a paved square with some space around it
//was there at least a fancy calligraphy "H" in the center?
 
2013-12-22 02:45:18 AM  

FatherChaos: Bfett20: Was that built by Vault-Tec?

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Looks too small to have come from Vault-Tec.  Perhaps one of its many competitors?


Good reference, but this is better
 
2013-12-22 03:31:20 AM  

shower_in_my_socks: Lochsteppe: I'd love to be a rich hermit someday, but that place is kinda ugly. Guess I'll have to build my own.

In the bunker-as-house world, I would much rather have THIS PLACE.


I dunno. Can we really be sure about silos...?

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2013-12-22 04:14:31 AM  
Maybe he decided it was too close to Yellowstone.

I actually thought about this a lot while laid up, and if money were no object:

1. Don't build near the Ring of Fire or Yellowstone.
2. If it really goes bad: I'm talking total breakdown of infrastructure, meteor strike/methane release/yellowstone-no-real-sunlight for ten years... most of the populace will head towards the equator. Hide somewhere else.
3. You have a much better chance of surviving if you can go the morlock route: Go deep. Really deep. Just keep in mind that old mines are wonderful places if you like stuff like arsenic. You'll need to spend a lot of time and money 'cleaning' it first. There are gobs of abandoned mines listed that need decontaminating; feel free to window shop.
4. You can't rely on solar/wind power (see above, no power if there's no sun, and wind/weather patterns will drastically change if any of the above events occur); and they're 'come take my stuff I'm right here' markers. Your best plan is to locate a mine in the upper latitudes where you can run underground lines to tidal generators; but not so close to the ocean (both distance and altitude) that you are vulnerable to fluctuations in ocean levels and/or coastal fault lines. Drilling to lay down a long conduit line deep underground may take a while so plan ahead. Don't forget you'll need to maintenance the turbines, most likely in almost subfreezing water and preferably without being seen. (I even designed an underwater room/housing you could raise/lower the turbines for maintenance/cycling, and seal/blow out the water using  pneumatic's -  like amphib ships - so you could do your maintenance unseen and in a dry environment :>)
5. You're going to need at least one level flooded to not only handle wastewater treatment, but also grow algae. Lots and lots of algae. Among other things it can be dried and used as rabbit/chicken feed, it and their manure are excellent sources of biofuel. (Don't ignore  the high methane content of chicken poop.)
6. Read up on the old scrubbers they used to use on diesel subs. Fairly low tech and you may need to generate your own air/seal yourself in.
7. Build lots and lots of 'neighbor' holes - communities are a good thing. But keep each individual community's populace fairly low - say 60-80 to start. If you've ever tried to manage a large raid in EQ/WoW/etc. you know what a pita it is to get large groups pointed/working in the same direction.
8. Compartmentalize. You don't want to lose all your chickens in one shot when one of them gets sick. They do that. Grow plants in Sealand containers so you can control temp/air/light, grow the same plant in multiple containers so you can stagger across multiple artificial 'seasons'. Compartmentalize stored food, Raise fish in separate tanks - preferably in an intelligent layout  to cycle their water/poop into your plant containers, compartmentalize your bee colonies... Compartmentalize  Everything.
9. Redundancy - (tempted to list this twice :>p). Keep in mind that it's not enough to have a 'backup' generator to your backup generator. If you need to stay underground for an extended period of time (maybe generation(s), you're going to need to be able to make most of your own parts. Stock up on raw materials - hopefully your mine has some that can be 'harvested' - an area set aside  to smelt/forge them, and the ability to make both tools and parts (eg CNC machines/3D printers, etc). You're going to need to grow more than just food. Clothing fiber, wood; the ability to manufacture stuff like aspirin and penicillin.
10. That being said, things like grow lights would be a pita to make - plan on stocking up a lot. Reallly a lot. A 100 years worth may not me enough. And we're talking tons... Tons of various types of (compartmentalized) grain - and not just for diet supplementation: you'll need to save multiple varieties because you don't know what the weather will be like when you finally emerge to grow topside.

Then start working your way to that underground seed bank in Svalbard...

Balancing the community's knowledge base with specific skill sets. Cross/apprentice training. Percentage that needs to be real (not weekend) warriors. Critical stuff like politics, 'when people get butthurt and can't get away from each other', crime,  multiple language training in preparation to encounter other groups of survivors after - preferably not cannibal hordes.

There's a lot that has to be taken into consideration.

/If any of you Farkers build one, send me an invite please. ;>0
 
2013-12-22 05:39:28 AM  

Tired_of_the_BS: 2. If it really goes bad: I'm talking total breakdown of infrastructure, meteor strike/methane release/yellowstone-no-real-sunlight for ten years... most of the populace will head towards the equator. Hide somewhere else.


If it goes that bad, then wherever you live, you're screwed. Regardless of what the preppers and doomsday fanatics like to pretend, you have zero chance of survival on your own, or with just your nuclear family. You absolutely must be in some kind of community with a good mix of survival skills, food, resources, talents, not to mention genetic variance. So if "everyone is fleeing toward the equator," then probably you should be too. Stay a few miles behind the masses to avoid disease and looting--but resist the temptation to go all Mad Max and rugged individualist. The survivors won't even find your picked skeleton in a year or two.
 
2013-12-22 05:59:59 AM  
It's 'nucular', dummy, the F is silent.
 
2013-12-22 06:03:32 AM  

shower_in_my_socks: Lochsteppe: I'd love to be a rich hermit someday, but that place is kinda ugly. Guess I'll have to build my own.

In the bunker-as-house world, I would much rather have THIS PLACE.


Yeah, I was going to reference that - much more secure and much less expensive..
 
2013-12-22 06:25:12 AM  
Meh.... waaaaay too flat.  If I'm going to have an evil lair, that shiat needs to be on a mountain somewhere.
 
2013-12-22 07:12:45 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Tired_of_the_BS: 2. If it really goes bad: I'm talking total breakdown of infrastructure, meteor strike/methane release/yellowstone-no-real-sunlight for ten years... most of the populace will head towards the equator. Hide somewhere else.

If it goes that bad, then wherever you live, you're screwed. Regardless of what the preppers and doomsday fanatics like to pretend, you have zero chance of survival on your own, or with just your nuclear family. You absolutely must be in some kind of community with a good mix of survival skills, food, resources, talents, not to mention genetic variance. So if "everyone is fleeing toward the equator," then probably you should be too. Stay a few miles behind the masses to avoid disease and looting--but resist the temptation to go all Mad Max and rugged individualist. The survivors won't even find your picked skeleton in a year or two.


One of multiple things that make the "survivalist" movement so hilariously funny is it being composed of creatures of civilization who believe they could survive for any length of time without it. It's an existentialist joke.
i18.photobucket.com

I fart in your general direction! Ha!Ha!
 
2013-12-22 07:24:59 AM  

fusillade762: I think I see Alex Jones's new abode. Maybe Glenn Beck.


new abode, I think its one of them selling it?  Now that Beck isn't front-page material he's gotta tighten the ol belt & boot straps to make ends meet.  If its Jones maybe he's finally getting ready to move to the anarchist paradise of western Africa, god speed Mr Jones, god speed.
 
2013-12-22 07:46:32 AM  
If the house could fly or press a button and it goes underground I might consider.
 
2013-12-22 08:28:30 AM  
Looks like it was built to keep out Zombies...
 
2013-12-22 08:38:35 AM  
Why not.  the Wealthy f*cks who buy it probably stole their money while working on Wall Street.  Home mortgage banking, no doubt.


its easy spending someone else's money.
 
2013-12-22 08:41:03 AM  
Many Wealthy Americans believe everyone is trying to steal their money.  they don't even trust each other.

course, they are paranoid about someone stealing their money because stealing from the Middle/working classes his how they got their money in the first place.

The Irony.
 
2013-12-22 08:42:11 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Got anything for the paranoid and poor?


only more Poverty and 'get to work'.


The Wealthy live off the poor,
and the poor live off their labor.
 
2013-12-22 12:01:29 PM  

Gyrfalcon: You absolutely must be in some kind of community with a good mix of survival skills, food, resources, talents, not to mention genetic variance.

jso2897: One of multiple things that make the "survivalist" movement so hilariously funny is it being composed of creatures of civilization who believe they could survive for any length of time without it.


Lol. Did you read to 2 and stop? How would an individual or nuclear family even begin to maintain all the crap I listed as essential to survive for an extended period of time? Let me 'self-reference' myself:

        7: ... - communities are a good thing. But keep each individual community's populace fairly low - say 60-80 to start.
If you have 5 - 10 communities each starting at a populace of 60-80 people, you'll have more than enough genetic variance to survive even if several communities don't make it and/or  they have to remain hidden/isolated for decades. But a large single community is vulnerable to being wiped out - both from within (disease/plague, infighting, poor choice of site, mismanagement of resources) and without (environment, other people).

        8... Compartmentalize Everything.
That especially applies to the communities themselves.

        9. Redundancy....
It's much easier to build and maintain the infrastructure to support multiple small groups without overtaxing the local environment  than it is to support one large group. Stuff like fresh water and sewage become a real hassle - especially if 'modern' conveniences like virtually unlimited electricity and large support structure are no longer available; compounded if you're talking about an underground community:  Again, if your large infrastructure breaks, you are boned. 'don't put all your eggs...'

        Balancing the community's knowledge base with specific skill sets. Cross/apprentice training. Percentage that needs to be real (not weekend) warriors. Critical stuff like politics, 'when people get butthurt and can't get away from each other', crime...

All these things are much MUCH easier to deal with in multiple small groups than in a single large populace.

/Romans (wiki): 'The organization of legions varied greatly over time but they were typically composed of up to 5,400 soldiers, originally divided into 10 maniples and later into cohorts each with 480 soldiers. Maniples or cohorts were divided into 6 centuries of 80 men each.'
This is what you should be shooting for: individual communities are the 'Century'. Maniples/cohorts are the local 'pod' community. The Legion is multiple pods... Compartmentalization and Redundancy - everything else is fail.
 
2013-12-22 01:30:35 PM  
But how will it hold up to zombies?
 
2013-12-22 03:45:23 PM  

Linux_Yes: Quantum Apostrophe: Got anything for the paranoid and poor?

only more Poverty and 'get to work'.


The Wealthy live off the poor,
and the poor live off their labor.


Where do you think the poor got their "labor"? From the rich.
 
2013-12-22 05:28:17 PM  
To me, this home resembles in many ways the home of The Man in the High Castle.
A story written by Phillip K. Dick.
The USA (along with the Allied nations during WWII) lost the war.
Our nation was invaded and ravaged by Fascists. One man in Colorado held out. His home was an impenetrable fortress with a high tower. He kept and upheld American values of liberty and democracy.
 
2013-12-22 05:57:54 PM  

8 inches: Linux_Yes: Quantum Apostrophe: Got anything for the paranoid and poor?

only more Poverty and 'get to work'.


The Wealthy live off the poor,
and the poor live off their labor.

Where do you think the poor got their "labor"? From the rich.



oh, look.  another Republican doesn't know what he's talking about.  so unusual.


Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.  -Abraham Lincoln


better luck next time.
 
2013-12-22 06:01:27 PM  

8 inches: Linux_Yes: Quantum Apostrophe: Got anything for the paranoid and poor?

only more Poverty and 'get to work'.


The Wealthy live off the poor,
and the poor live off their labor.

Where do you think the poor got their "labor"? From the rich.



sorry for being so snide, but i get tired of hearing that argument in this Country.  Americans have their tongues so far up the richest 2%'s ass that they can't step back and see the whole picture.  they've been brainwashed to think that the Ownership Society can do no wrong.

course, the Ownership Society owns all the 'news' networks, so it makes sense that they would be brainwashed.
 
2013-12-22 07:39:01 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: Quantum Apostrophe: Got anything for the paranoid and poor?

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A little more duct tape and you're good to go.


Needs to be covered in tinfoil to keep the government mind control rays out.
 
2013-12-22 08:51:06 PM  

Lochsteppe: I'd love to be a rich hermit someday, but that place is kinda ugly. Guess I'll have to build my own.


I am a rich hermit, and I have a huge mansion that could house lots of people, but I'm a hermit. Sorry.
 
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