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(DW Akademie)   U.S. sneaks into German apartment of Snowden's buddy, Appelbaum, and looks for stuff. Reminding us that you hardly noticed your toilet paper roll holder is now a listening device and your cat has a weird eye now   (dw.de) divider line 83
    More: Sick, Jacob Appelbaum, listening device, U.S., toilet paper, Berliner Zeitung, German capital, CDU, South Sudan  
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2013-12-21 03:16:55 PM
Well kid, if you're going to play with the big league spy agencies and all their secrets, what the fark do you think is going to happen? You don't seem to have a clue.
 
2013-12-21 04:03:54 PM
You know who else used to search the apartments of people with names like Applebaum in Germany?
 
2013-12-21 05:25:40 PM
Sounds like my uncle who blamed the commies when he loses the remote
 
2013-12-21 05:27:31 PM
Let's see... where could they put the camera that you would not notice...

myspaceantics.com
 
2013-12-21 05:27:38 PM
But was it a modified wooden toilet paper holder?
 
2013-12-21 05:30:17 PM

4tehsnowflakes: You know who else used to search the apartments of people with names like Applebaum in Germany?


Bono?
 
2013-12-21 05:30:40 PM

peacheslatour: But was it a modified wooden toilet paper holder?


Wow.  Just wow.
 
2013-12-21 05:30:46 PM

4tehsnowflakes: You know who else used to search the apartments of people with names like Applebaum in Germany?


~images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-12-21 05:31:15 PM
Guy looks like he hosts Schprockets.
 
2013-12-21 05:33:28 PM

4tehsnowflakes: You know who else used to search the apartments of people with names like Applebaum in Germany?


The Stasi?  Because that's what you would have seen if you RTFA.
 
2013-12-21 05:34:26 PM

edmo: Well kid, if you're going to play with the big league spy agencies and all their secrets, what the fark do you think is going to happen? You don't seem to have a clue.


With all the alarms he set and keeping track of things it seems he did have a clue. And they probably got nothing from his computer.
 
2013-12-21 05:35:29 PM
Just love how the article is pretty much nothing but Applebum claiming all this, including that he's apparently got a photographic memory and noticed things were askew compared to where they were earlier.
 
2013-12-21 05:36:08 PM

Ring one bell...we are German.


Two bells...still German.


www.dw.de

 
2013-12-21 05:36:15 PM
Gee... you think maybe intelligence services are going to crawl all over the associates and friends of the person who carried off one of the biggest security breaches in American history? I mean, it's pretty standard procedure when a spy, spook, or agent goes rogue - especially when they abscond with information of importance to national security.
 
2013-12-21 05:36:30 PM
This guy should hang out with my mom. She's absolutely certain that CIA blackbag teams of demons summoned forth by Hitler and the NSA to replace her with podpeople have been very carefully breaking into her place whenever she goes to the store, and moving everything in her living room 2 inches to the left.
 
2013-12-21 05:38:46 PM
Wait until he tastes the toothpaste...
www.barnorama.com
 
2013-12-21 05:39:34 PM

HotWingAgenda: This guy should hang out with my mom. She's absolutely certain that CIA blackbag teams of demons summoned forth by Hitler and the NSA to replace her with podpeople have been very carefully breaking into her place whenever she goes to the store, and moving everything in her living room 2 inches to the left.


When she's out of the room, you move things right? Cause it's only funny if you play along
 
2013-12-21 05:40:56 PM

Farty McPooPants: Wait until he tastes the toothpaste...
[www.barnorama.com image 570x350]


DAMNIT!

Came in to post the same thing.
 
2013-12-21 05:41:01 PM
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2013-12-21 05:41:27 PM
www.ottawalife.com


skinink: Ring one bell...we are German.
Two bells...still German.
[www.dw.de image 700x394]


Three bells: DRACULA.
 
2013-12-21 05:41:29 PM
Who says it was the US? I am sure there are several governments and other organizations that would be very interested in the full documents Snowden gave this guy.

In fact, since there were things left out of place I doubt it was our spooks. We used to play footsies with Mother Russia in Berlin as daily business. They can go through a place and you would never know they were there...unless they wanted you to know to mess with your mind.

Considering who the other parties might be that would like this Intel, he better pray the US is just trying to make him nervous so he slips up. The other players are pretty scary and will make way more noise to complete a task.

/maybe the crew doing the searching has done it so many times that they started to use it as a trainer by making speed runs
 
2013-12-21 05:42:02 PM

edmo: Well kid, if you're going to play with the big league spy agencies and all their secrets, what the fark do you think is going to happen? You don't seem to have a clue.


I would think the 'big league' spy agencies would be competent enough to not alert the person they're spying on if they were serious about listening in.
 
2013-12-21 05:42:35 PM
I love how the responses here range from incredulity to how it's so obvious they would do that. Someone has to be able to pull off both at the same time.
 
2013-12-21 05:42:53 PM
If objects were moved without being returned to their exact positions by spooks of a major government, I would suspect this is a deliberate attempt to become overcautious and hope that the target leads to the object of interest. Everyone one associated with this friend is under tight scrutiny along with their friends.

Where Am I?
In the Village.
Whose side are you on?
That would be telling.
 
2013-12-21 05:46:06 PM
While I'm disgusted with the U.S.'s spy on everyone program, there's this evil part of me that's even more disgusted that they do such a bad job of spying on everyone.
 
2013-12-21 05:46:09 PM

HotWingAgenda: This guy should hang out with my mom. She's absolutely certain that CIA blackbag teams of demons summoned forth by Hitler and the NSA to replace her with podpeople have been very carefully breaking into her place whenever she goes to the store, and moving everything in her living room 2 inches to the left.


Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they aren't really out to get you.

Or,

Just because it's paranoid to think that there are flying, invisible thingies, waiting to rip your face off; does not preclude the existence of flying, invisible thingies, waiting to rip your face off.

/ wishing you a very paranoid Xmas
 
2013-12-21 05:48:29 PM
No motion-activated cameras that automatically send hits to multiple locations via redundant means?
That's what I'd do.
 
2013-12-21 05:49:30 PM

Iczer: Just love how the article is pretty much nothing but Applebum claiming all this, including that he's apparently got a photographic memory and noticed things were askew compared to where they were earlier.


This wouldn't be the first time he's had run-ins with the DoD.  I seem to remember that soon after Bradley Manning's big data dump, Mr. Applebaum was detained at an airport and questioned about his involvement with Wikileaks (he's the only American aside from Mr. Manning known to be involved with WIkileaks).  He went into hiding soon after.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if he does, in fact, have a photographic memory.  Prior to his involvement with Wikileaks, he was a developer on the Tor project, and I seem to remember reading that he had some involvement with the EFF.  He may have made some bad choices, but he's not stupid.
 
2013-12-21 05:50:03 PM

skinink: Ring one bell...we are German.
Two bells...still German.


~www.dw.de

Didn't he play the Doctor on Firefly? I could SWEAR he played the Doctor on Firefly.
 
2013-12-21 05:50:49 PM
Hell, we do this all the time... Uhh-

...I mean he's just imagining everything!

Joe (Never Say Anything) Lockpicker
 
2013-12-21 05:51:35 PM

skinink: Ring one bell...we are German.
Two bells...still German.
[www.dw.de image 700x394]


...still here...
 
2013-12-21 05:51:42 PM

edmo: Well kid, if you're going to play with the big league spy agencies and all their secrets, what the fark do you think is going to happen? You don't seem to have a clue.


Yeah, I mean, if you're gonna hold documents that some(especially people on your side) think the US government would kill for, you think that your 4 alarms and sense of smugness is going to keep them out of your apartment?

Listen, rent Zero Dark Thirty. That's what they do to people they don't like, and they don't like you. If all they do is quietly search your apartment, count yourself lucky.
 
2013-12-21 05:53:14 PM
Now the NSA can listen to my anti government rhetoric amidst the giant wet burrito farts.
 
2013-12-21 05:54:01 PM
At least his fremen stillsuit seems to be intact, if the accompanying photo is any indication.
 
2013-12-21 05:54:20 PM
Sorry all, thread appeared to beg for early G-dWIN.

i1277.photobucket.com


You know where I need to be and how long I have to get there.
 
2013-12-21 05:57:23 PM

Publikwerks: edmo: Well kid, if you're going to play with the big league spy agencies and all their secrets, what the fark do you think is going to happen? You don't seem to have a clue.

Yeah, I mean, if you're gonna hold documents that some(especially people on your side) think the US government would kill for, you think that your 4 alarms and sense of smugness is going to keep them out of your apartment?

Listen, rent Zero Dark Thirty. That's what they do to people they don't like, and they don't like you. If all they do is quietly search your apartment, count yourself lucky.


And who says it's a govt? Booz Allen and Stratfor would think nothing of hiring someone to rake through his apartment.
 
2013-12-21 06:05:32 PM

cowgirl toffee: Let's see... where could they put the camera that you would not notice...

[myspaceantics.com image 160x112]


Might get lipstick on it there.
 
2013-12-21 06:05:48 PM
Just wait until they frame him for the Lindbergh baby kidnapping...
 
2013-12-21 06:07:27 PM

StokeyBob: cowgirl toffee: Let's see... where could they put the camera that you would not notice...

[myspaceantics.com image 160x112]

Might get lipstick on it there.


WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING WITH YOUR CAT?!?

:P
 
2013-12-21 06:07:37 PM
 
2013-12-21 06:10:39 PM
Funny, my cat always had weird eyes.

..oh wait!
 
2013-12-21 06:12:18 PM

Farty McPooPants: Wait until he tastes the toothpaste...
[www.barnorama.com image 570x350]


That was a classic.

/came for this
//leaving satisfied
 
2013-12-21 06:12:20 PM
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Touch the Monkey! TOUCH HEEEM !
 
2013-12-21 06:14:14 PM

cwheelie: Just wait until they frame him for the Lindbergh baby kidnapping...


I am the Lindbergh baby! Waah! Waah! Goo goo. I miss my fly fly dada...
 
2013-12-21 06:28:34 PM
'And some of my effects, whose positions I carefully note, were indeed askew.'

Tradecraft 101. Line up some objects in the room that are likely to get disturbed when the place is search. Um, wouldn't they teach the people dispatched to be aware that people do this?
 
2013-12-21 06:29:23 PM
Didn't this guy get expelled from Rushmore when he was a teenager?
www.dw.de
 
2013-12-21 06:29:25 PM
But dont worry, its not Fascism because Obama did it.
 
2013-12-21 06:35:22 PM

6655321: If objects were moved without being returned to their exact positions by spooks of a major government, I would suspect this is a deliberate attempt to become overcautious and hope that the target leads to the object of interest. Everyone one associated with this friend is under tight scrutiny along with their friends.

Where Am I?
In the Village.
Whose side are you on?
That would be telling.


A twelve step spy operation:

Step one: poke around in apartment.
Step two: install malware on cell phone to make odd noises during phone calls
Step three: shadow a couple of times with scary black sedan with scary agents in front seat
Step four: have same agents hurrily leave front door of his building just as he walks up.
Step five: trash search apartment.
Step six: after a couple of days, place scary agents in crowds to be spotted following him.
Maintain step six for one to two weeks to cause high paranoia.
Step seven: stage a break in with one scary agent while he is in apppartment and sleeping. (Agent is burned for the op after this action and should be moved)
Step eight: calls during sleep and meals at random with spoofed numbers offering to let him "come in" with the info. Perform nicely cryptic voice that slowly, but calmly looses patience over the course of a few calls.
Step nine: deliver currier message that he has made his choice and missed his last chance.
Step ten: scary sedan shows up again and has a near miss. (Car is now burned)
Step eleven: scary agents start to tail him with scary windowless van. Short chase ensues and he escapes.
Step twelve: follow with real survalence and tails to target as he runs.

/the buildup is what makes for a grand finale
 
2013-12-21 06:36:17 PM
I doubt it was one of our folks.  Ours are way better than that.  They'll photograph the placement of objects before messing with them, so they can put everything back right where it was.  They even have freakin' dust kits to mix the proper color of dust to replace what they disturb as they go.

This sounds like somebody else.
 
2013-12-21 06:36:42 PM

edmo: Well kid, if you're going to play with the big league spy agencies and all their secrets, what the fark do you think is going to happen? You don't seem to have a clue.


This is a marked improvement. A few years ago this guy would have been called a paranoid conspiracy theorist. The response would be that nobody broke into his apartment and it was all his imagination, that the government wouldn't be interested in him and even if it was wouldn't do something so underhanded. The mainstream has moved to step two, the "Well what did you expect would happen?" reaction. Indicating an understanding now that the government does this sort of thing as a matter of course and always has.
 
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