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(The Raw Story)   America's favorite sheriff loses yet another lawsuit over false arrests, to the tune of $3.75 million. For those keeping track at home, Maricopa County has had to pay out nearly $17 million since Joe took office   (rawstory.com) divider line 94
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2013-12-21 03:32:23 PM  
A rouge officer of the law cost his municipality $17 million?  Pffft.  Amateur.

What's Chicago up to for false arrests and imprisonments just in the last five years?  $50 million?  $60 million?

The cop who used to hook suspects' junk up to a car battery cost the city at least $20 million this year alone.

Chicago Tribune: The Jon Burge Legacy
 
2013-12-21 03:35:09 PM  

MayoSlather: He should move to Iran. He might find he has more in common with the authoritarian establishment there. Although, I suppose Arizona works just as well.


Iranians hate trespassers too ? Apply the sick tag asap .
 
2013-12-21 03:42:27 PM  
Obviously the word has been sent out to redirect the topic of conversation to Chicago. Because that has derp-all to do with anything.
 
2013-12-21 03:45:05 PM  

cmb53208: This is yet one more reason one should never, NEVER let their community turn into a retirement haven: the geezers love this asshole, and as long as it's just the young folk being taxed to pay for this they're alright with his abuses


cmb53208: This is yet one more reason one should never, NEVER let their community turn into a retirement haven: the geezers love this asshole, and as long as it's just the young folk being taxed to pay for this they're alright with his abuses


cmb53208: This is yet one more reason one should never, NEVER let their community turn into a retirement haven: the geezers love this asshole, and as long as it's just the young folk being taxed to pay for this they're alright with his abuses


Play it, cmb53208.
 
2013-12-21 03:46:04 PM  
Reminds me of Sheriff Simon Leis in Hamilton Co., Ohio Cincinnati.
Looks the same, acts the same, same demographics in the constituency.
 
2013-12-21 03:50:17 PM  
Nypd has paid out over 1 billion in the last ten years.
 
2013-12-21 03:55:09 PM  
Good deal then.    Because that is not even the price of a decent mansion for one single celebrity.
 
2013-12-21 03:55:12 PM  

Giltric: Nypd has paid out over 1 billion in the last ten years.


Yeah, but as in the case with Chicago, the cops who CAUSED the massive lawsuits got fired, and sometimes imprisoned. Sheriff Joe is directly responsible for this one, and he don't care.
 
2013-12-21 04:04:47 PM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: jake_lex: TuteTibiImperes: Saborlas: And yet this will be forgotten come election time. Because electing anyone else to the position means that racists can't fap to minorities being mistreated.

Gonna need either a fed-up federal judge or the Grim Reaper to get him outta that office.

A smart challenger for the office would play up those lawsuits as wasteful government spending and an unfair burden on the taxpayers.

Trabaggers may hate minorities, but they hate taxes and government spending too. It would be interesting to see which one would win out.

Teabaggers won't care about this, though, because Sherrif Joe's Tough On Crime, and he sure does deal with those brown people in a way they like.  The judgment against him are lie-brul socialists who work for Fartbongo and want our country overrun by illegal immigrants who'll come here to try to knock up your daughter to make an anchor baby.

In short, the racism of the Tea Party trumps any of the other stuff they claim to care about.

3/10

I don't think you had your heart in this. Very poor troll attempt try again.

I am the duke I will show you how to troll


Not a troll, and not wrong.  I mean it is more than just racism keeping Joe going but it remains true that he can deflect any criticism on this wasted money as the fault of Liberals, Obama-appointed judges, and the great liberal media conspiracy boogeyman.

Teabaggers are pretty easy to hoodwink.
 
2013-12-21 04:06:01 PM  

reaperducer: A rouge officer of the law cost his municipality $17 million?  Pffft.  Amateur.

What's Chicago up to for false arrests and imprisonments just in the last five years?  $50 million?  $60 million?

The cop who used to hook suspects' junk up to a car battery cost the city at least $20 million this year alone.

Chicago Tribune: The Jon Burge Legacy


What about the muave officer?
 
2013-12-21 04:16:57 PM  

mbillips: Giltric: Nypd has paid out over 1 billion in the last ten years.

Yeah, but as in the case with Chicago, the cops who CAUSED the massive lawsuits got fired, and sometimes imprisoned. Sheriff Joe is directly responsible for this one, and he don't care.


Four detention aides and nine police officers had allegations sustained against them for failure to properly care for Eilman. All but one got off with a reprimand, according to Law Department spokesman Roderick Drew.
"We couldn't find a disciplinary recommendation for the one remaining officer, but we have no reason to believe that the officer wasn't given the same discipline: a reprimand," Drew said.

...

Chicago taxpayers will spend $12.3 million to compensate two more exonerated inmates who claim they were tortured into false confessions by convicted former Area 2 Cmdr. Jon Burge, keeping former Mayor Richard M. Daley off the hot seat.
[...]
It marks the third time that cases settled by Mayor Rahm Emanuel have spared Daley from answering questions under oath about allegations that - as state's attorney and as mayor - he failed to investigate police torture allegations against Burge and participated in a conspiracy to cover it up.
[...]
"Mr. Daley and his city lawyers have consistently resisted voluntarily producing Mr. Daley concerning the matters alleged in this case and in the cases filed on behalf of other wrongfully convicted victims of Burge and his men," their filing stated.
"He should not be permitted to indefinitely evade questioning regarding these matters simply because he was once - but is no more - the mayor of Chicago."
 
2013-12-21 04:37:29 PM  

mbillips: Giltric: Nypd has paid out over 1 billion in the last ten years.

Yeah, but as in the case with Chicago, the cops who CAUSED the massive lawsuits got fired, and sometimes imprisoned. Sheriff Joe is directly responsible for this one, and he don't care.


No.


Usually it is easier for a department to settle with a plantiff than spend money fighting it in court.

The porn industry does the same thing that the outrage industry does.

They say settle for x because x is lower than the cost of defending the lawsuit.

I have a family member who was sued for violating an inmates first amendment rights because he did not give the inmate a writing implement while the inmate was being transferred to administrative segregation.

the Department of Corrections settled for 5k or so. Nobody lost their job for refusing to give the inmate something that can be used as a weapon.

Maybe all these fired cops from the CPD make their way to Sherriff Joes department and it's those bad apples who are costing the county money.
 
2013-12-21 04:38:26 PM  
So you folks who keep bringing up Chicago PD understand that The Maricopa Country Sherrifs Office is not the Phoenix PD right? That their role is to operate prisons housing petty offenders and to serve and suplement the areas of Maricopa County with no/limited local police coverage? That you're godawful at drawing parallels and should probably just stop?
 
2013-12-21 04:49:45 PM  

ZAZ: Less than $5 per resident. Maybe $20 per person who voted for him. He's been in office for a long time. Would you pay $1 per year in return for police smiting evildoers, whatever your personal definition of evildoer is? Better entertainment value than a movie.


But try to collect that upfront and call it a "tax" and they'd all be screaming their fool heads off.
 
2013-12-21 04:49:49 PM  
Does he have to pay a cent?

No?

Then HE HAS LOST NOTHING.
 
2013-12-21 04:56:35 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Trabaggers may hate minorities, but they hate taxes and government spending too. It would be interesting to see which one would win out.


No contest.  The cost of the lawsuits isn't Sheriff Joe's fault, it's the fault of the liberuls who won't let him do what needs to be done.
 
2013-12-21 05:00:55 PM  
Maricopa County has had to pay out nearly $17 million since Joe took office

That's baby shiat compared to siccing the IRS and NSA on your political opponents.

But, it's cool and smart when that guy does it.
 
2013-12-21 05:01:35 PM  

comebackherewithmyoreos: So you folks who keep bringing up Chicago PD understand that The Maricopa Country Sherrifs Office is not the Phoenix PD right? That their role is to operate prisons housing petty offenders and to serve and suplement the areas of Maricopa County with no/limited local police coverage? That you're godawful at drawing parallels and should probably just stop?


"Other people/cops/cities/counties/etcetera do things even worse, so why are we even talking about the failures of Sheriff Joe?" That is pretty pathetic. It's like if the police came knocking on my door to investigate me for murder and I got all huffy and started yelling about a guy in an entirely different county who murdered and raped somebody, therefore I should be left alone because my crime wasn't quite as heinous.
 
2013-12-21 05:07:33 PM  

milkyshirt: comebackherewithmyoreos: So you folks who keep bringing up Chicago PD understand that The Maricopa Country Sherrifs Office is not the Phoenix PD right? That their role is to operate prisons housing petty offenders and to serve and suplement the areas of Maricopa County with no/limited local police coverage? That you're godawful at drawing parallels and should probably just stop?

"Other people/cops/cities/counties/etcetera do things even worse, so why are we even talking about the failures of Sheriff Joe?" That is pretty pathetic. It's like if the police came knocking on my door to investigate me for murder and I got all huffy and started yelling about a guy in an entirely different county who murdered and raped somebody, therefore I should be left alone because my crime wasn't quite as heinous.


Or, maybe, we're expected to be huge hypocrites who think abuse of power is sunshine and rainbows in Chicago and we're targeting Sheriff Joe because...? I dunno. Help me out here.
 
2013-12-21 05:16:25 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Saborlas: And yet this will be forgotten come election time. Because electing anyone else to the position means that racists can't fap to minorities being mistreated.

Gonna need either a fed-up federal judge or the Grim Reaper to get him outta that office.

A smart challenger for the office would play up those lawsuits as wasteful government spending and an unfair burden on the taxpayers.

Trabaggers may hate minorities, but they hate taxes and government spending too. It would be interesting to see which one would win out.


Ordinarily you'd be right.  But money spent to give what's coming to them to them that deserves it is money well spent to a teabagger.  And if them's got unacceptable levels of melanin in their skin, all the better.

Arizona's full of old people who think that Sheriff Joe's the awesomest way of keeping those darned kids of their yards- permanently.  As long as there are clouds and old men to yell at them, Sheriff Joe will keep getting reelected.
 
2013-12-21 05:22:53 PM  
"Other people/cops/cities/counties/etcetera do things even worse, so why are we even talking about the failures of Sheriff Joe?" That is pretty pathetic. It's like if the police came knocking on my door to investigate me for murder and I got all huffy and started yelling about a guy in an entirely different county who murdered and raped somebody, therefore I should be left alone because my crime wasn't quite as heinous.Or, maybe, we're expected to be huge hypocrites who think abuse of power is sunshine and rainbows in Chicago and we're targeting Sheriff Joe because...? I dunno. Help me out here.I honestly couldn't tell you what they hope to achieve in their deflection. The idea that Sheriff Joe is still around is an embarrassment that transcends party lines and is a black eye on Democracy in general. That anyone could be "proud" of their support of him baffles me.
 
2013-12-21 05:24:15 PM  
I'm also apparently baffled as to how to quote folks on my phone. That went horribly.
 
2013-12-21 05:36:51 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: This just goes to show how dumb Arpaio is and how dumb he thinks his constituents are. He arrested them for violating the secrecy of a non-existent grand jury. How did he think that would work?


I'd be willing to bet the vast majority of the time he railroads someone on trumped up charges it works fine for him. Not sure I understand why he couldn't be prosecuted for false imprisonment and such.
 
2013-12-21 05:56:06 PM  

redmid17: What is this, amateur hour?

CPD and Chicago have paid out over $100 million since 2010.


1) this is so sad ....
2) is there a link somewhere?

I know that the city has done EVERYTHING that it can to avoid releasing settlement amounts. assholes
 
2013-12-21 05:57:23 PM  
17 mil over 21 years in office.  I wonder if that is a lot or little compared to letting all these unregistered democrats free run of the state.
 
2013-12-21 05:57:55 PM  

mbillips: Giltric: Nypd has paid out over 1 billion in the last ten years.

Yeah, but as in the case with Chicago, the cops who CAUSED the massive lawsuits got fired, and sometimes imprisoned. Sheriff Joe is directly responsible for this one, and he don't care.


it took decades for those cops to finally come to justice ...
 
2013-12-21 06:00:11 PM  

barneyfifesbullet: That's baby shiat compared to siccing the IRS and NSA on your political opponents.


I'd be happier if he'd start sending his political opponents to the FEMA death camps you lunatic righties have been furiously masturbating about since the 1990s.  Once all you Glenn Beck-felching teatards are executed, people with IQ's higher than room temperature can start fixing all the shiat that's been broken by the cousin-humping brigade over the last few decades...
 
2013-12-21 06:33:55 PM  

comebackherewithmyoreos: So you folks who keep bringing up Chicago PD understand that The Maricopa Country Sherrifs Office is not the Phoenix PD right? That their role is to operate prisons housing petty offenders and to serve and suplement the areas of Maricopa County with no/limited local police coverage? That you're godawful at drawing parallels and should probably just stop?


My quick math says Maricopa County Sheriff's office is responsible for less than 400,000 people.

Chicago has a population of 2.75 million and New York 8.2 million and both cities have large temporary populations of visitors from suburbs, commuters, and tourists, I doubt anywhere under the MCSO does as all urban areas have a local police department

And that $17 million is simply for politically motivated actions, it is just the tip of the iceberg. There were over $40 million in suits for dead or injured prisoners through 2008. From 2004-2007, the MCSO was subject to more than 50 times as many lawsuits as New York, Los Angeles, California, and Houston (the four largest US cities) combined.
 
2013-12-21 06:48:00 PM  
He is a Hero of the Republic and will fight injustice to the last taxpayer's dollar!
 
2013-12-21 07:20:11 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: redmid17: What is this, amateur hour?

CPD and Chicago have paid out over $100 million since 2010.

Oh, well that makes it all better


I'll take "Things I never said or implied" for the loose change bouncing around in your head you call a brain.
 
2013-12-21 08:03:23 PM  

redmid17: Peter von Nostrand: redmid17: What is this, amateur hour?

CPD and Chicago have paid out over $100 million since 2010.

Oh, well that makes it all better

I'll take "Things I never said or implied" for the loose change bouncing around in your head you call a brain.


You brought up Chicago in a Sheriff Joe thread for no reason at all?
 
2013-12-21 08:12:34 PM  

PunGent: redmid17: Peter von Nostrand: redmid17: What is this, amateur hour?

CPD and Chicago have paid out over $100 million since 2010.

Oh, well that makes it all better

I'll take "Things I never said or implied" for the loose change bouncing around in your head you call a brain.

You brought up Chicago in a Sheriff Joe thread for no reason at all?


No I never said that what Maricopa's largish settlement amount was acceptable.

CPD's is much larger and it was supposed to be a joke. Hence the "amateur hour" bit.

try to keep up.
 
2013-12-21 08:32:41 PM  

redmid17: PunGent: redmid17: Peter von Nostrand: redmid17: What is this, amateur hour?

CPD and Chicago have paid out over $100 million since 2010.

Oh, well that makes it all better

I'll take "Things I never said or implied" for the loose change bouncing around in your head you call a brain.

You brought up Chicago in a Sheriff Joe thread for no reason at all?

No I never said that what Maricopa's largish settlement amount was acceptable.

CPD's is much larger and it was supposed to be a joke. Hence the "amateur hour" bit.

try to keep up.


Yeah....you understand your own subtext.  Try to keep up.
 
2013-12-21 08:43:28 PM  

BizarreMan: I'm going to say something really profound.  People are STUPID when it comes to how they respond to their elected officials.

[nscsb]
Small Mississippi town where I live had the same sheriff since the 60's.  He was a local institution, util he got in the middle of an altercation between the scion of a prominent local family and the the Feds.  Committed perjury, bribery, attempted bribery, witness tampering.  All to provide cover for the scion who was busted in DC with an Uzi in his car.

Anyway, he ended up pleading guilty because a white southern sheriff couldn't get a fair trial in Washington DC.  While he was waiting sentencing he was re-elected to the office.


Anyway, as he's going away to Florida prison camp for 18 months, the local population was wailing and gnashing their teeth because what would they do without the man who had protected them for so many years.

[/nscsb]


I'll take THIS for a $1000 Alex.
 
2013-12-21 09:58:24 PM  
17 million pales in comparison to the millions spent feeding, educating and healing illegals.
/so your only real valud complaint is the portion of the money that went to the lawyers.
 
2013-12-21 10:07:12 PM  

itsaidwhat: 17 million pales in comparison to the millions spent feeding, educating and healing illegals.
/so your only real valud complaint is the portion of the money that went to the lawyers.


Also the wrongful deaths, and injuries sufferred by inmates, the suppression of political opponents by government officials, etc
 
2013-12-21 10:15:18 PM  

itsaidwhat: 17 million pales in comparison to the millions spent feeding, educating and healing illegals.
/so your only real valud complaint is the portion of the money that went to the lawyers.


Or, we could stop worrying about how much money we spend on 'illegals' and offer then amnesty and a path to citizenship so that they could become fully contributing members of society, just like the waves of immigrants to this country throughout history that helped build it into the world's most powerful nation.
 
2013-12-21 11:22:24 PM  

PunGent: redmid17: PunGent: redmid17: Peter von Nostrand: redmid17: What is this, amateur hour?

CPD and Chicago have paid out over $100 million since 2010.

Oh, well that makes it all better

I'll take "Things I never said or implied" for the loose change bouncing around in your head you call a brain.

You brought up Chicago in a Sheriff Joe thread for no reason at all?

No I never said that what Maricopa's largish settlement amount was acceptable.

CPD's is much larger and it was supposed to be a joke. Hence the "amateur hour" bit.

try to keep up.

Yeah....you understand your own subtext.  Try to keep up.


You clearly aren't.
 
2013-12-21 11:43:28 PM  
the man is a thug
 
2013-12-22 01:59:27 AM  
A few year back, he was asking for a 20 million dollar increase in his upcoming annual budget above planned expenditures, just to help cover expected court costs.  This was over and above what he already allotted for yearly lawsuit costs, because he was having to spend so much more defending himself/the department than expected($15 mil at the time), it was eating into his publicity stunts...er, 'programs'.  The $17 mil for false arrests, the $20 mil for the unnecessary deaths, those are just a drop in the bucket compared to what his court defense costs alone cost the county annually.  Add it up over the last couple decades, he just might give your vaunted Chicago PD a run for the (lost) money.

/whenever anyone starts talking about him as the 'toughest sheriff in America', I never get tired of reminding them that a decade or so ago, he got his ass beat in a parking lot by a 32 year old gay waiter who still lived with his mother.

//bigger joke- when he was first elected in '92, he promised to serve one term and then retire.
 
2013-12-22 02:45:17 AM  
but
CHICAGO!
 
2013-12-22 06:56:16 AM  

Rocket To Russia: but
CHICAGO!


In fact 17mil is a bad quarter in Chicago....
 
2013-12-22 10:52:11 AM  

dywed88: comebackherewithmyoreos: So you folks who keep bringing up Chicago PD understand that The Maricopa Country Sherrifs Office is not the Phoenix PD right? That their role is to operate prisons housing petty offenders and to serve and suplement the areas of Maricopa County with no/limited local police coverage? That you're godawful at drawing parallels and should probably just stop?

My quick math says Maricopa County Sheriff's office is responsible for less than 400,000 people.

Chicago has a population of 2.75 million and New York 8.2 million and both cities have large temporary populations of visitors from suburbs, commuters, and tourists, I doubt anywhere under the MCSO does as all urban areas have a local police department

And that $17 million is simply for politically motivated actions, it is just the tip of the iceberg. There were over $40 million in suits for dead or injured prisoners through 2008. From 2004-2007, the MCSO was subject to more than 50 times as many lawsuits as New York, Los Angeles, California, and Houston (the four largest US cities) combined.


But most of those that the MCSO comes into contact with are sitting in their jails...so they were already found guilty by a jury or judge.


The average NYPD or CPD cop only has to deal with someone when they have to write them a ticket for smoking outside or for having a soda....and even then they still manage to shoot 8 or 9 people not involved with the smoking or soda infraction.


It's an apples and coconuts comparison.
 
2013-12-22 07:53:11 PM  

Giltric: But most of those that the MCSO comes into contact with are sitting in their jails...so they were already found guilty by a jury or judge.


That's a bit inaccurate.

I don't have Mariposa County stats handy, but nationwide a strong majority of inmates in jail (as opposed to prison) are in pre-trial detention, typically because they are waiting for bail to be set or insufficiently wealthy to make bail.
 
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