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2013-12-21 11:31:53 AM  
4 votes:

jso2897: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: If I owned a company I certainly wouldn't hire any potheads any more than I'd hire an alcoholic.

If you owned a company, dogs would have credit cards.



HydrantCardTM. It's everywhere you want to pee.
2013-12-21 11:11:07 AM  
3 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: If I owned a company I certainly wouldn't hire any potheads any more than I'd hire an alcoholic.


If you owned a company, dogs would have credit cards.
2013-12-21 11:45:53 AM  
2 votes:

Burr: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

I worked for a company of about 500 people that did mostly data entry (I was in engineering services though).  They had a suggestion box and somebody put in "Random drug tests".

The owner of the company came out and said "We don't care what you do on your free time as long as it doesn't effect your work".  He probably know that if he did, most of his high school educated workforce would fail.


He could have periodically handed out a sheets that said things like "Please circle five effects of mescaline"  or "Name all the states where marijuana is legal." At the end of the year, give a prize to the person with the most right answers. Everyone is happy that way.
2013-12-21 02:26:37 AM  
2 votes:
www.moneyandshit.com
2013-12-21 03:53:21 PM  
1 votes:

Crazy Lee: Livinglush

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We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.

Says Nancy, while perched on Mr. T's lap...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/man -sets-marijuana-record-smokes-115000 -joints-provided/story?id=9159281

"I don't get high. I need the medicine; I'm not getting any euphoria," he said.

I don't doubt that he needs it for his condition, but this is a lie.

And what if it is?  Joker has been huffing 9 ounces of Uncle Sugar's 3.5% Delta Nine (certified) every month since 1982 (he just testified in KY month before last) and has been constantly employed as a stockbroker.  Any true `euphoria' he might be experiencing probably has to do with the fact that he is alive and fully functioning.  So, what's drug testing's actual purpose?  Why not rely on computerized performance testing (before clocking in one has to `beat' the computer - the tests are being used - either one's hand/eye coord & passing test measuring variables of attention - is met, or one doesn't clock-in - the cause of failure can be ferreted out after the fact - arguing all night with the old lady or too much Xanax...).

I'm not opposed to it. I'm not against the drug or it's use, medically OR recreationally. I just don't think it's users have a right to affect the workplace negatively

So, in Rosenfeld's case, you'd want him to be subjected to a quantitative test of his THC level to insure he had a substantial enough amount of the THC on board to perform his tasks as a stockbroker in the manner in which you, as the employer, had come to rely on?  I mean, if he wasn't smoking enough, might not his trades for clients drop off or otherwise suffer?

Actual performance, not pi*s implied bullshiat is all that matters


He doesn't have a problem with pot. Weren't you listening? He just has a problem with the giant strawmen he's been building up for himself this entire thread.
2013-12-21 02:16:39 PM  
1 votes:

vbob: China laughs.
/easy pickins ahead

 starts coughing because of smog

/ftfy
2013-12-21 01:25:35 PM  
1 votes:

mutterfark: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

I have no idea about government job urine tests, but I've never had a supervised, pre-screening urine test. This is ridiculously easy to get around. With a small amount of foresight, random tests are as easily circumvented.

Or so I am told.
Just say no, or something.


Them machines gotta be calibrated somehow, right?
2013-12-21 01:21:00 PM  
1 votes:

Livinglush: Misconduc: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

Yeah I'd like to tell Walmart something about that, they are farking idiots. Back when I was 17 I wanted a part time job stocking shelves at walmart, I went in for the interview on a friday afternoon. Boss said yer hired! get a drug test and you can start tuesday.
No clinic was open on Saturday or Sunday, and Monday was a Holiday... Guess what happens if you cant get a drug test in 72 hours? Sorry! don't apply at walmart for 6 months.

I laugh at all the potheads who think they can miss clear and get away with it, it works great until you get "fired" for drugs, most companies won't even go near you because you are a liability.

/On a funny note, I was a cable installer a few years ago making $800 a week cash, after 4 months they did random drug testing on everyone, my department went from 13 installers and 2 technicians to 2 installers and 2 technicians, 11 people fired for having drugs in their system.
//wouldn't you if you would spend 8 hours digging? on the plus side I became a senior technician not even 6 months of working there :)

We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.


Says Nancy, while perched on Mr. T's lap...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/man -sets-marijuana-record-smokes-115000 -joints-provided/story?id=9159281
2013-12-21 01:12:53 PM  
1 votes:

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Livinglush: The My Little Pony Killer: Livinglush: Misconduc: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

Yeah I'd like to tell Walmart something about that, they are farking idiots. Back when I was 17 I wanted a part time job stocking shelves at walmart, I went in for the interview on a friday afternoon. Boss said yer hired! get a drug test and you can start tuesday.
No clinic was open on Saturday or Sunday, and Monday was a Holiday... Guess what happens if you cant get a drug test in 72 hours? Sorry! don't apply at walmart for 6 months.

I laugh at all the potheads who think they can miss clear and get away with it, it works great until you get "fired" for drugs, most companies won't even go near you because you are a liability.

/On a funny note, I was a cable installer a few years ago making $800 a week cash, after 4 months they did random drug testing on everyone, my department went from 13 installers and 2 technicians to 2 installers and 2 technicians, 11 people fired for having drugs in their system.
//wouldn't you if you would spend 8 hours digging? on the plus side I became a senior technician not even 6 months of working there :)

We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.

So you don't hire alcoholics either, right? Because otherwise you're just a hypocrite.

Not knowingly, no. All things in moderation, and moderation in some things is much less than others. Subjective, yes, but that's my right as an employer. I pay well over industry average and expect more in return.

I'm also guessing you employ and have employed many "potheads" that you have zero clue were smokers.


Shhhhhh!  Once employers find out that a drug test is so easy and cheap to rig that a high school student can do it the jig is up!

How the hell will we be able to deal with their unbearably smug self-centrism at work if they actually find a way to stop us from getting stoned in our car in the parking lot?


/loose lips sink spliffs!
2013-12-21 12:39:49 PM  
1 votes:

Livinglush: Misconduc: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

Yeah I'd like to tell Walmart something about that, they are farking idiots. Back when I was 17 I wanted a part time job stocking shelves at walmart, I went in for the interview on a friday afternoon. Boss said yer hired! get a drug test and you can start tuesday.
No clinic was open on Saturday or Sunday, and Monday was a Holiday... Guess what happens if you cant get a drug test in 72 hours? Sorry! don't apply at walmart for 6 months.

I laugh at all the potheads who think they can miss clear and get away with it, it works great until you get "fired" for drugs, most companies won't even go near you because you are a liability.

/On a funny note, I was a cable installer a few years ago making $800 a week cash, after 4 months they did random drug testing on everyone, my department went from 13 installers and 2 technicians to 2 installers and 2 technicians, 11 people fired for having drugs in their system.
//wouldn't you if you would spend 8 hours digging? on the plus side I became a senior technician not even 6 months of working there :)

We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.


you should try school
2013-12-21 12:24:58 PM  
1 votes:

The My Little Pony Killer: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

A lot of people who smoke weed don't bother with the places that drug test new hires. Those who do have ways of cheating that system.

But please, continue with your fantasy about an unemployment line filled up with junkies OD'ing on the marihuanas.


All this BS "drug testing" is just another revenue stream.
If you are too stupid to beat the test, you don't deserve the job.

/oh, maybe that is the real test???
2013-12-21 11:49:25 AM  
1 votes:

Theory Of Null: adamatari: You ain't seen nothin' yet.

This coming year will be very interesting.

Maybe by 2020 pot will be legal everywhere.


As far as the US, it will take several years of the states where it's legal showing that they've not become nightmarish wastelands of lawlessness and addiction. I think 2020 is a bit optimistic but not too far off - maybe mid-late 2020's before the Overton window on on federal legalization shifts.
2013-12-21 11:40:16 AM  
1 votes:

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

That's not true at all. Alcohol is a drug, and employers don't care if you drink on your own time, as long as you don't come to work drunk. It's going to take a few years for the culture to change, but it will happen.


If they can test to see if someones under the influence of POT while at work, then I will agree with you - but for now you can't test it, only see if someone has smoked in the previous few days/weeks.
Difference is Alcohol can be tested on the spot with a breath test, unless they can do that for POT then most companies will not hire you. Again because of liability issues.
2013-12-21 11:13:54 AM  
1 votes:
You ain't seen nothin' yet.

This coming year will be very interesting.
2013-12-21 11:12:20 AM  
1 votes:

JohnnyRebel88: Burr: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

I worked for a company of about 500 people that did mostly data entry (I was in engineering services though).  They had a suggestion box and somebody put in "Random drug tests".

The owner of the company came out and said "We don't care what you do on your free time as long as it doesn't effect your work".  He probably know that if he did, most of his high school educated workforce would fail.

Of course, you can really blame the insurance companies for this issue.  Random drug tests mean cheaper insurance rates.

I like how you felt the need to include that you were in "engineering services though".


If the trains are to run on time, somebody has to service those engineers!
2013-12-21 10:59:20 AM  
1 votes:
Does this mean that a policy that has failed since 1937 will finally be repealed?
2013-12-21 10:58:53 AM  
1 votes:
If I owned a company I certainly wouldn't hire any potheads any more than I'd hire an alcoholic.
2013-12-21 10:55:38 AM  
1 votes:
Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.
2013-12-21 05:22:47 AM  
1 votes:

phlegmmo: [www.moneyandshiat.com image 380x500]


Considering there is no real alternative plan, thats actually good advice.
 
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