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2013-12-21 12:35:08 PM

Livinglush: Misconduc: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

Yeah I'd like to tell Walmart something about that, they are farking idiots. Back when I was 17 I wanted a part time job stocking shelves at walmart, I went in for the interview on a friday afternoon. Boss said yer hired! get a drug test and you can start tuesday.
No clinic was open on Saturday or Sunday, and Monday was a Holiday... Guess what happens if you cant get a drug test in 72 hours? Sorry! don't apply at walmart for 6 months.

I laugh at all the potheads who think they can miss clear and get away with it, it works great until you get "fired" for drugs, most companies won't even go near you because you are a liability.

/On a funny note, I was a cable installer a few years ago making $800 a week cash, after 4 months they did random drug testing on everyone, my department went from 13 installers and 2 technicians to 2 installers and 2 technicians, 11 people fired for having drugs in their system.
//wouldn't you if you would spend 8 hours digging? on the plus side I became a senior technician not even 6 months of working there :)

We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.


So you don't hire alcoholics either, right? Because otherwise you're just a hypocrite.
 
2013-12-21 12:39:49 PM

Livinglush: Misconduc: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

Yeah I'd like to tell Walmart something about that, they are farking idiots. Back when I was 17 I wanted a part time job stocking shelves at walmart, I went in for the interview on a friday afternoon. Boss said yer hired! get a drug test and you can start tuesday.
No clinic was open on Saturday or Sunday, and Monday was a Holiday... Guess what happens if you cant get a drug test in 72 hours? Sorry! don't apply at walmart for 6 months.

I laugh at all the potheads who think they can miss clear and get away with it, it works great until you get "fired" for drugs, most companies won't even go near you because you are a liability.

/On a funny note, I was a cable installer a few years ago making $800 a week cash, after 4 months they did random drug testing on everyone, my department went from 13 installers and 2 technicians to 2 installers and 2 technicians, 11 people fired for having drugs in their system.
//wouldn't you if you would spend 8 hours digging? on the plus side I became a senior technician not even 6 months of working there :)

We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.


you should try school
 
2013-12-21 12:40:27 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Livinglush: Misconduc: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

Yeah I'd like to tell Walmart something about that, they are farking idiots. Back when I was 17 I wanted a part time job stocking shelves at walmart, I went in for the interview on a friday afternoon. Boss said yer hired! get a drug test and you can start tuesday.
No clinic was open on Saturday or Sunday, and Monday was a Holiday... Guess what happens if you cant get a drug test in 72 hours? Sorry! don't apply at walmart for 6 months.

I laugh at all the potheads who think they can miss clear and get away with it, it works great until you get "fired" for drugs, most companies won't even go near you because you are a liability.

/On a funny note, I was a cable installer a few years ago making $800 a week cash, after 4 months they did random drug testing on everyone, my department went from 13 installers and 2 technicians to 2 installers and 2 technicians, 11 people fired for having drugs in their system.
//wouldn't you if you would spend 8 hours digging? on the plus side I became a senior technician not even 6 months of working there :)

We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.

So you don't hire alcoholics either, right? Because otherwise you're just a hypocrite.


Not knowingly, no. All things in moderation, and moderation in some things is much less than others. Subjective, yes, but that's my right as an employer. I pay well over industry average and expect more in return.
 
2013-12-21 12:40:57 PM

LeroyBourne: I don't smoke anymore.  I just don't like the feeling of being high, but I love the smell and taste.  I wonder if that Charlotte's Web stuff still smells and tastes like weed.


It does.  At least it certainly did during the final stages of the hybridization.  Mellow, sweet, almost grapey.  Absolutely no psychoactive effects whatsoever.  Amazing strain.
 
2013-12-21 12:57:49 PM

Livinglush: The My Little Pony Killer: Livinglush: Misconduc: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

Yeah I'd like to tell Walmart something about that, they are farking idiots. Back when I was 17 I wanted a part time job stocking shelves at walmart, I went in for the interview on a friday afternoon. Boss said yer hired! get a drug test and you can start tuesday.
No clinic was open on Saturday or Sunday, and Monday was a Holiday... Guess what happens if you cant get a drug test in 72 hours? Sorry! don't apply at walmart for 6 months.

I laugh at all the potheads who think they can miss clear and get away with it, it works great until you get "fired" for drugs, most companies won't even go near you because you are a liability.

/On a funny note, I was a cable installer a few years ago making $800 a week cash, after 4 months they did random drug testing on everyone, my department went from 13 installers and 2 technicians to 2 installers and 2 technicians, 11 people fired for having drugs in their system.
//wouldn't you if you would spend 8 hours digging? on the plus side I became a senior technician not even 6 months of working there :)

We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.

So you don't hire alcoholics either, right? Because otherwise you're just a hypocrite.

Not knowingly, no. All things in moderation, and moderation in some things is much less than others. Subjective, yes, but that's my right as an employer. I pay well over industry average and expect more in return.


I'm also guessing you employ and have employed many "potheads" that you have zero clue were smokers.
 
2013-12-21 12:59:51 PM

Livinglush: The My Little Pony Killer: Livinglush: Misconduc: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

Yeah I'd like to tell Walmart something about that, they are farking idiots. Back when I was 17 I wanted a part time job stocking shelves at walmart, I went in for the interview on a friday afternoon. Boss said yer hired! get a drug test and you can start tuesday.
No clinic was open on Saturday or Sunday, and Monday was a Holiday... Guess what happens if you cant get a drug test in 72 hours? Sorry! don't apply at walmart for 6 months.

I laugh at all the potheads who think they can miss clear and get away with it, it works great until you get "fired" for drugs, most companies won't even go near you because you are a liability.

/On a funny note, I was a cable installer a few years ago making $800 a week cash, after 4 months they did random drug testing on everyone, my department went from 13 installers and 2 technicians to 2 installers and 2 technicians, 11 people fired for having drugs in their system.
//wouldn't you if you would spend 8 hours digging? on the plus side I became a senior technician not even 6 months of working there :)

We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.

So you don't hire alcoholics either, right? Because otherwise you're just a hypocrite.

Not knowingly, no. All things in moderation, and moderation in some things is much less than others. Subjective, yes, but that's my right as an employer. I pay well over industry average and expect more in return.


I can understand how you have so many mistaken beliefs.
You have been lied to for your entire life, by experts with that "authority" thing going for them, which is not good at all.
Please accept reeducation as it rears it's righteous head.
 
2013-12-21 01:01:24 PM
When the field sobriety analysis is, "we just can't tell if they are high or not", take a farking hint.
 
2013-12-21 01:05:19 PM

Billy Bathsalt: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: If I owned a company I certainly wouldn't hire any potheads any more than I'd hire an alcoholic.

So, no creative people.


Pretty much - Im guessing he doesnt work in media. Good luck finding a video editor who doesnt smoke pot.
 
2013-12-21 01:12:53 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Livinglush: The My Little Pony Killer: Livinglush: Misconduc: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

Yeah I'd like to tell Walmart something about that, they are farking idiots. Back when I was 17 I wanted a part time job stocking shelves at walmart, I went in for the interview on a friday afternoon. Boss said yer hired! get a drug test and you can start tuesday.
No clinic was open on Saturday or Sunday, and Monday was a Holiday... Guess what happens if you cant get a drug test in 72 hours? Sorry! don't apply at walmart for 6 months.

I laugh at all the potheads who think they can miss clear and get away with it, it works great until you get "fired" for drugs, most companies won't even go near you because you are a liability.

/On a funny note, I was a cable installer a few years ago making $800 a week cash, after 4 months they did random drug testing on everyone, my department went from 13 installers and 2 technicians to 2 installers and 2 technicians, 11 people fired for having drugs in their system.
//wouldn't you if you would spend 8 hours digging? on the plus side I became a senior technician not even 6 months of working there :)

We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.

So you don't hire alcoholics either, right? Because otherwise you're just a hypocrite.

Not knowingly, no. All things in moderation, and moderation in some things is much less than others. Subjective, yes, but that's my right as an employer. I pay well over industry average and expect more in return.

I'm also guessing you employ and have employed many "potheads" that you have zero clue were smokers.


Shhhhhh!  Once employers find out that a drug test is so easy and cheap to rig that a high school student can do it the jig is up!

How the hell will we be able to deal with their unbearably smug self-centrism at work if they actually find a way to stop us from getting stoned in our car in the parking lot?


/loose lips sink spliffs!
 
2013-12-21 01:16:34 PM

Livinglush: The My Little Pony Killer: Livinglush: Misconduc: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

Yeah I'd like to tell Walmart something about that, they are farking idiots. Back when I was 17 I wanted a part time job stocking shelves at walmart, I went in for the interview on a friday afternoon. Boss said yer hired! get a drug test and you can start tuesday.
No clinic was open on Saturday or Sunday, and Monday was a Holiday... Guess what happens if you cant get a drug test in 72 hours? Sorry! don't apply at walmart for 6 months.

I laugh at all the potheads who think they can miss clear and get away with it, it works great until you get "fired" for drugs, most companies won't even go near you because you are a liability.

/On a funny note, I was a cable installer a few years ago making $800 a week cash, after 4 months they did random drug testing on everyone, my department went from 13 installers and 2 technicians to 2 installers and 2 technicians, 11 people fired for having drugs in their system.
//wouldn't you if you would spend 8 hours digging? on the plus side I became a senior technician not even 6 months of working there :)

We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.

So you don't hire alcoholics either, right? Because otherwise you're just a hypocrite.

Not knowingly, no. All things in moderation, and moderation in some things is much less than others. Subjective, yes, but that's my right as an employer. I pay well over industry average and expect more in return.


So that's a 'yes' to the you're a hypocrite part of my comment then.
 
2013-12-21 01:21:00 PM

Livinglush: Misconduc: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

Yeah I'd like to tell Walmart something about that, they are farking idiots. Back when I was 17 I wanted a part time job stocking shelves at walmart, I went in for the interview on a friday afternoon. Boss said yer hired! get a drug test and you can start tuesday.
No clinic was open on Saturday or Sunday, and Monday was a Holiday... Guess what happens if you cant get a drug test in 72 hours? Sorry! don't apply at walmart for 6 months.

I laugh at all the potheads who think they can miss clear and get away with it, it works great until you get "fired" for drugs, most companies won't even go near you because you are a liability.

/On a funny note, I was a cable installer a few years ago making $800 a week cash, after 4 months they did random drug testing on everyone, my department went from 13 installers and 2 technicians to 2 installers and 2 technicians, 11 people fired for having drugs in their system.
//wouldn't you if you would spend 8 hours digging? on the plus side I became a senior technician not even 6 months of working there :)

We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.


Says Nancy, while perched on Mr. T's lap...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/man -sets-marijuana-record-smokes-115000 -joints-provided/story?id=9159281
 
2013-12-21 01:21:28 PM
Just ordered some Cherry Pie off the new silk road so this thread is relevant to my interests

/I'm dreaming of a green Christmas
 
2013-12-21 01:22:03 PM

skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.


I have no idea about government job urine tests, but I've never had a supervised, pre-screening urine test. This is ridiculously easy to get around. With a small amount of foresight, random tests are as easily circumvented.

Or so I am told.
Just say no, or something.
 
2013-12-21 01:23:37 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Livinglush: The My Little Pony Killer: Livinglush: Misconduc: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

Yeah I'd like to tell Walmart something about that, they are farking idiots. Back when I was 17 I wanted a part time job stocking shelves at walmart, I went in for the interview on a friday afternoon. Boss said yer hired! get a drug test and you can start tuesday.
No clinic was open on Saturday or Sunday, and Monday was a Holiday... Guess what happens if you cant get a drug test in 72 hours? Sorry! don't apply at walmart for 6 months.

I laugh at all the potheads who think they can miss clear and get away with it, it works great until you get "fired" for drugs, most companies won't even go near you because you are a liability.

/On a funny note, I was a cable installer a few years ago making $800 a week cash, after 4 months they did random drug testing on everyone, my department went from 13 installers and 2 technicians to 2 installers and 2 technicians, 11 people fired for having drugs in their system.
//wouldn't you if you would spend 8 hours digging? on the plus side I became a senior technician not even 6 months of working there :)

We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.

So you don't hire alcoholics either, right? Because otherwise you're just a hypocrite.

Not knowingly, no. All things in moderation, and moderation in some things is much less than others. Subjective, yes, but that's my right as an employer. I pay well over industry average and expect more in return.

So that's a 'yes' to the you're a hypocrite part of my comment then.


Think what you like, it's your right. Doesn't affect me one bit. I do detect a bit of bitterness on your part though.
 
2013-12-21 01:25:35 PM

mutterfark: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

I have no idea about government job urine tests, but I've never had a supervised, pre-screening urine test. This is ridiculously easy to get around. With a small amount of foresight, random tests are as easily circumvented.

Or so I am told.
Just say no, or something.


Them machines gotta be calibrated somehow, right?
 
2013-12-21 01:30:40 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Livinglush: Misconduc: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

Yeah I'd like to tell Walmart something about that, they are farking idiots. Back when I was 17 I wanted a part time job stocking shelves at walmart, I went in for the interview on a friday afternoon. Boss said yer hired! get a drug test and you can start tuesday.
No clinic was open on Saturday or Sunday, and Monday was a Holiday... Guess what happens if you cant get a drug test in 72 hours? Sorry! don't apply at walmart for 6 months.

I laugh at all the potheads who think they can miss clear and get away with it, it works great until you get "fired" for drugs, most companies won't even go near you because you are a liability.

/On a funny note, I was a cable installer a few years ago making $800 a week cash, after 4 months they did random drug testing on everyone, my department went from 13 installers and 2 technicians to 2 installers and 2 technicians, 11 people fired for having drugs in their system.
//wouldn't you if you would spend 8 hours digging? on the plus side I became a senior technician not even 6 months of working there :)

We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.

So you don't hire alcoholics either, right? Because otherwise you're just a hypocrite.


The thing is - people who have real problems with drugs don't disclose it.  Since weed is mostly illegal, it becomes a catch-22.  A responsible pot smoker goes to a job interview and doesn't mention anything remotely related to pot.  Everyone sees him as 'not a drug user'.  The only people who they do see as drug users are the ones with problems.  They show up to work high or spend all day talking about drugs.  Boss notices that employees who use drugs are all problem employees and concludes that drug use makes them bad and that he/she shouldn't hire drug users.

They don't realize that they don't know if their star employees are using drugs....they just know they don't have any problems with drugs that they bring to work.
 
2013-12-21 01:32:40 PM

Livinglush: Misconduc: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

Yeah I'd like to tell Walmart something about that, they are farking idiots. Back when I was 17 I wanted a part time job stocking shelves at walmart, I went in for the interview on a friday afternoon. Boss said yer hired! get a drug test and you can start tuesday.
No clinic was open on Saturday or Sunday, and Monday was a Holiday... Guess what happens if you cant get a drug test in 72 hours? Sorry! don't apply at walmart for 6 months.

I laugh at all the potheads who think they can miss clear and get away with it, it works great until you get "fired" for drugs, most companies won't even go near you because you are a liability.

/On a funny note, I was a cable installer a few years ago making $800 a week cash, after 4 months they did random drug testing on everyone, my department went from 13 installers and 2 technicians to 2 installers and 2 technicians, 11 people fired for having drugs in their system.
//wouldn't you if you would spend 8 hours digging? on the plus side I became a senior technician not even 6 months of working there :)

We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.


I like how "personal time" is in quotes. Is this to suggest they are doing it on the job? Or perhaps that you believe companies own their employees, and there is no such thing as "personal time."
 
2013-12-21 01:32:50 PM

radarlove: mutterfark: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

I have no idea about government job urine tests, but I've never had a supervised, pre-screening urine test. This is ridiculously easy to get around. With a small amount of foresight, random tests are as easily circumvented.

Or so I am told.
Just say no, or something.

Them machines gotta be calibrated somehow, right?


No. The test is for metabolites, not urine.
 
2013-12-21 01:34:08 PM
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2013-12-21 01:34:18 PM

Crazy Lee: Livinglush: Misconduc: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

Yeah I'd like to tell Walmart something about that, they are farking idiots. Back when I was 17 I wanted a part time job stocking shelves at walmart, I went in for the interview on a friday afternoon. Boss said yer hired! get a drug test and you can start tuesday.
No clinic was open on Saturday or Sunday, and Monday was a Holiday... Guess what happens if you cant get a drug test in 72 hours? Sorry! don't apply at walmart for 6 months.

I laugh at all the potheads who think they can miss clear and get away with it, it works great until you get "fired" for drugs, most companies won't even go near you because you are a liability.

/On a funny note, I was a cable installer a few years ago making $800 a week cash, after 4 months they did random drug testing on everyone, my department went from 13 installers and 2 technicians to 2 installers and 2 technicians, 11 people fired for having drugs in their system.
//wouldn't you if you would spend 8 hours digging? on the plus side I became a senior technician not even 6 months of working there :)

We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.

Says Nancy, while perched on Mr. T's lap...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/man -sets-marijuana-record-smokes-115000 -joints-provided/story?id=9159281


"I don't get high. I need the medicine; I'm not getting any euphoria," he said.

I don't doubt that he needs it for his condition, but this is a lie.
 
2013-12-21 01:39:50 PM

Livinglush: The My Little Pony Killer: Livinglush: The My Little Pony Killer: Livinglush: Misconduc: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

Yeah I'd like to tell Walmart something about that, they are farking idiots. Back when I was 17 I wanted a part time job stocking shelves at walmart, I went in for the interview on a friday afternoon. Boss said yer hired! get a drug test and you can start tuesday.
No clinic was open on Saturday or Sunday, and Monday was a Holiday... Guess what happens if you cant get a drug test in 72 hours? Sorry! don't apply at walmart for 6 months.

I laugh at all the potheads who think they can miss clear and get away with it, it works great until you get "fired" for drugs, most companies won't even go near you because you are a liability.

/On a funny note, I was a cable installer a few years ago making $800 a week cash, after 4 months they did random drug testing on everyone, my department went from 13 installers and 2 technicians to 2 installers and 2 technicians, 11 people fired for having drugs in their system.
//wouldn't you if you would spend 8 hours digging? on the plus side I became a senior technician not even 6 months of working there :)

We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.

So you don't hire alcoholics either, right? Because otherwise you're just a hypocrite.

Not knowingly, no. All things in moderation, and moderation in some things is much less than others. Subjective, yes, but that's my right as an employer. I pay well over industry average and expect more in return.

So that's a 'yes' to the you're a hypocrite part of my comment then.

Think what you like, it's your right. Doesn't affect me one bit. I do detect a bit of bitterness on your part though.


Ahh, projection. I see you're no longer interested in conversation.

Good day.
 
2013-12-21 01:41:28 PM

mutterfark: radarlove: mutterfark: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

I have no idea about government job urine tests, but I've never had a supervised, pre-screening urine test. This is ridiculously easy to get around. With a small amount of foresight, random tests are as easily circumvented.

Or so I am told.
Just say no, or something.

Them machines gotta be calibrated somehow, right?

No. The test is for metabolites, not urine.


And most, ahem, "calibration solutions" on the market are specifically formulated for that, sir.  Otherwise, they wouldn't "calibrate" the machine.  Doesn't matter the medium, either.

They ask for a swab, there's a special mouthwash.
They ask for hair, there's a special shampoo.
They wanna see your cock while you piss, they make those too.

Dunno about the possibility of "calibrating" blood tests, but good luck getting that one to fly with your employees to begin with.  Governmental jobs could be a different story, though.
 
2013-12-21 01:42:01 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Livinglush: The My Little Pony Killer: Livinglush: The My Little Pony Killer: Livinglush: Misconduc: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

Yeah I'd like to tell Walmart something about that, they are farking idiots. Back when I was 17 I wanted a part time job stocking shelves at walmart, I went in for the interview on a friday afternoon. Boss said yer hired! get a drug test and you can start tuesday.
No clinic was open on Saturday or Sunday, and Monday was a Holiday... Guess what happens if you cant get a drug test in 72 hours? Sorry! don't apply at walmart for 6 months.

I laugh at all the potheads who think they can miss clear and get away with it, it works great until you get "fired" for drugs, most companies won't even go near you because you are a liability.

/On a funny note, I was a cable installer a few years ago making $800 a week cash, after 4 months they did random drug testing on everyone, my department went from 13 installers and 2 technicians to 2 installers and 2 technicians, 11 people fired for having drugs in their system.
//wouldn't you if you would spend 8 hours digging? on the plus side I became a senior technician not even 6 months of working there :)

We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.

So you don't hire alcoholics either, right? Because otherwise you're just a hypocrite.

Not knowingly, no. All things in moderation, and moderation in some things is much less than others. Subjective, yes, but that's my right as an employer. I pay well over industry average and expect more in return.

So that's a 'yes' to the you're a hypocrite part of my comment then.

Think what you like, it's your right. Doesn't affect me one bit. I do detect a bit of bitterness on your part though.

Ahh, projection. I see you're no longer interested in conversation.

Good day.


Says the person whose idea of conversations was name calling?
 
2013-12-21 01:44:39 PM

Livinglush: "I don't get high. I need the medicine; I'm not getting any euphoria," he said.

I don't doubt that he needs it for his condition, but this is a lie.


There are strains specifically bred to have no psychoactive effects, actually.  And a person who uses a huge amount of cannabis to begin with develops a strong tolerance to those psychoactive effects to begin with.  So no, he is not necessarily lying.
 
2013-12-21 01:46:47 PM

MayoSlather: Livinglush: Misconduc: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

Yeah I'd like to tell Walmart something about that, they are farking idiots. Back when I was 17 I wanted a part time job stocking shelves at walmart, I went in for the interview on a friday afternoon. Boss said yer hired! get a drug test and you can start tuesday.
No clinic was open on Saturday or Sunday, and Monday was a Holiday... Guess what happens if you cant get a drug test in 72 hours? Sorry! don't apply at walmart for 6 months.

I laugh at all the potheads who think they can miss clear and get away with it, it works great until you get "fired" for drugs, most companies won't even go near you because you are a liability.

/On a funny note, I was a cable installer a few years ago making $800 a week cash, after 4 months they did random drug testing on everyone, my department went from 13 installers and 2 technicians to 2 installers and 2 technicians, 11 people fired for having drugs in their system.
//wouldn't you if you would spend 8 hours digging? on the plus side I became a senior technician not even 6 months of working there :)

We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.

I like how "personal time" is in quotes. Is this to suggest they are doing it on the job? Or perhaps that you believe companies own their employees, and there is no such thing as "personal time."


It's because what you do on your personal time still affects your work time. If what you do at home affects your performance at work it is no longer personal. FYI I use quotes around "work hours" all the time as well, because as salaried employees, if my employees need to go to the doctor, to pick up their kids or run a personal errand, they can do so as long as it doesn't affect their performance overall.

I'm not seeing what you are missing. Are you trying to tell me that your choices should be allowed to affect my income and the income of those around me? Or are you saying we should all work harder to make up for the fact that you feel "mellow" today?
 
2013-12-21 01:46:47 PM

Livinglush: Crazy Lee: Livinglush: Misconduc: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

Yeah I'd like to tell Walmart something about that, they are farking idiots. Back when I was 17 I wanted a part time job stocking shelves at walmart, I went in for the interview on a friday afternoon. Boss said yer hired! get a drug test and you can start tuesday.
No clinic was open on Saturday or Sunday, and Monday was a Holiday... Guess what happens if you cant get a drug test in 72 hours? Sorry! don't apply at walmart for 6 months.

I laugh at all the potheads who think they can miss clear and get away with it, it works great until you get "fired" for drugs, most companies won't even go near you because you are a liability.

/On a funny note, I was a cable installer a few years ago making $800 a week cash, after 4 months they did random drug testing on everyone, my department went from 13 installers and 2 technicians to 2 installers and 2 technicians, 11 people fired for having drugs in their system.
//wouldn't you if you would spend 8 hours digging? on the plus side I became a senior technician not even 6 months of working there :)

We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.

Says Nancy, while perched on Mr. T's lap...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/man -sets-marijuana-record-smokes-115000 -joints-provided/story?id=9159281

"I don't get high. I need the medicine; I'm not getting any euphoria," he said.

I don't doubt that he needs it for his condition, but this is a lie.


And what if it is?  Joker has been huffing 9 ounces of Uncle Sugar's 3.5% Delta Nine (certified) every month since 1982 (he just testified in KY month before last) and has been constantly employed as a stockbroker.  Any true `euphoria' he might be experiencing probably has to do with the fact that he is alive and fully functioning.  So, what's drug testing's actual purpose?  Why not rely on computerized performance testing (before clocking in one has to `beat' the computer - the tests are being used - either one's hand/eye coord & passing test measuring variables of attention - is met, or one doesn't clock-in - the cause of failure can be ferreted out after the fact - arguing all night with the old lady or too much Xanax...).
 
2013-12-21 01:48:27 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: If I owned a company I certainly wouldn't hire any potheads any more than I'd hire an alcoholic.


What's the difference between having a beer or two in the evening, and having a toke in the evening?

Moderate drinking does not an alcoholic make. Moderate use does not a "pothead" make.
 
2013-12-21 01:48:37 PM

radarlove: mutterfark: radarlove: mutterfark: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

I have no idea about government job urine tests, but I've never had a supervised, pre-screening urine test. This is ridiculously easy to get around. With a small amount of foresight, random tests are as easily circumvented.

Or so I am told.
Just say no, or something.

Them machines gotta be calibrated somehow, right?

No. The test is for metabolites, not urine.

And most, ahem, "calibration solutions" on the market are specifically formulated for that, sir.  Otherwise, they wouldn't "calibrate" the machine.  Doesn't matter the medium, either.

They ask for a swab, there's a special mouthwash.
They ask for hair, there's a special shampoo.
They wanna see your cock while you piss, they make those too.

Dunno about the possibility of "calibrating" blood tests, but good luck getting that one to fly with your employees to begin with.  Governmental jobs could be a different story, though.


I'm sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about. Anything other than the standard five panel stick that they drop in the "urine" is generally reserved for something other than job screening. They do also check temperature. If you are referring to the gimmicks that claim to beat drug tests, I would say those are total BS. I was talking about simple job screening/random testing done at places like Best Buy and Home Depot among others.
 
2013-12-21 01:50:06 PM

Crazy Lee: Livinglush: Crazy Lee: Livinglush: Misconduc: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

Yeah I'd like to tell Walmart something about that, they are farking idiots. Back when I was 17 I wanted a part time job stocking shelves at walmart, I went in for the interview on a friday afternoon. Boss said yer hired! get a drug test and you can start tuesday.
No clinic was open on Saturday or Sunday, and Monday was a Holiday... Guess what happens if you cant get a drug test in 72 hours? Sorry! don't apply at walmart for 6 months.

I laugh at all the potheads who think they can miss clear and get away with it, it works great until you get "fired" for drugs, most companies won't even go near you because you are a liability.

/On a funny note, I was a cable installer a few years ago making $800 a week cash, after 4 months they did random drug testing on everyone, my department went from 13 installers and 2 technicians to 2 installers and 2 technicians, 11 people fired for having drugs in their system.
//wouldn't you if you would spend 8 hours digging? on the plus side I became a senior technician not even 6 months of working there :)

We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.

Says Nancy, while perched on Mr. T's lap...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/man -sets-marijuana-record-smokes-115000 -joints-provided/story?id=9159281

"I don't get high. I need the medicine; I'm not getting any euphoria," he said.

I don't doubt that he needs it for his condition, but this is a lie.

And what if it is?  Joker has been huffing 9 ounces of Uncle Sugar's 3.5% Delta Nine (certified) every month since 1982 (he just testified in KY month before last) and has been constantly employed as a stockbroker.  Any true `euphoria' he might be experiencing probably has to do with the fact that he is alive and fully functioning.  So, what's drug testing's actual purpose?  Why not rely on computerized performance testing (before clocking in one has to `beat' the computer - the tests are being used - either one's hand/eye coord & passing test measuring variables of attention - is met, or one doesn't clock-in - the cause of failure can be ferreted out after the fact - arguing all night with the old lady or too much Xanax...).


I'm not opposed to it. I'm not against the drug or it's use, medically OR recreationally. I just don't think it's users have a right to affect the workplace negatively.
 
2013-12-21 01:53:11 PM

mutterfark: I would say those are total BS.


You are very wrong.

And I am absolutely talking about pre-employment drug screening.  I also passed my drug test at MEPS this way.
 
2013-12-21 01:54:22 PM

Misconduc: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

That's not true at all. Alcohol is a drug, and employers don't care if you drink on your own time, as long as you don't come to work drunk. It's going to take a few years for the culture to change, but it will happen.

If they can test to see if someones under the influence of POT while at work, then I will agree with you - but for now you can't test it, only see if someone has smoked in the previous few days/weeks.
Difference is Alcohol can be tested on the spot with a breath test, unless they can do that for POT then most companies will not hire you. Again because of liability issues.


There's a saliva test that is accurate for 24 hours or so after use that detects the active cannabinoids rather than the residual markers IIRC


/almost a 'breathalyzer'
 
2013-12-21 01:54:58 PM

belhade: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: If I owned a company I certainly wouldn't hire any potheads any more than I'd hire an alcoholic.

What's the difference between having a beer or two in the evening, and having a toke in the evening?

Moderate drinking does not an alcoholic make. Moderate use does not a "pothead" make.


Hence why I said "alcoholic" and "pothead", not "social drinker" and "occasional weed smoker".
 
2013-12-21 01:59:22 PM

Livinglush: It's because what you do on your personal time still affects your work time. If what you do at home affects your performance at work it is no longer personal. FYI I use quotes around "work hours" all the time as well, because as salaried employees, if my employees need to go to the doctor, to pick up their kids or run a personal errand, they can do so as long as it doesn't affect their performance overall.

I'm not seeing what you are missing. Are you trying to tell me that your choices should be allowed to affect my income and the income of those around me? Or are you saying we should all work harder to make up for the fact that you feel "mellow" today?


You've created quite a slippery slope. By that same logic an employer should be able to implement curfews, tell you what to eat, what type of person to be in a relationship with, and dictate that you only take up low risk hobbies. Drug use is no different, it can be used responsibly just like alcohol, or be abused where it becomes a detriment.
 
2013-12-21 01:59:35 PM

radarlove: mutterfark: I would say those are total BS.

You are very wrong.

And I am absolutely talking about pre-employment drug screening.  I also passed my drug test at MEPS this way.


Wouldn't be the first time. I've had great success with low tech solutions.

For the record, I use marijuana, primarily for severe nerve pain due to severe congenital stenosis of the cervical canal. I am fused from C3-C7, and I would never even apply for a job where my use could impact others. This limits my job options, but so would having any number of other severe or chronic medical conditions. If you need strong pain killers every day to cope with severe pain, you should not be a bus driver, right?
 
2013-12-21 02:05:13 PM

Misconduc: - but for now you can't test it, only see if someone has smoked in the previous few days/weeks.


There are now saliva test kits like this that will detect active THC and not the metabolites detected in urine tests.

Realistically, marijuana legalization won't become accepted in every state and by the Federal government if there isn't some sort of system in place to detect impairment while driving, similar to measuring BAC. Even though even the head of that particular department in the NHTSA admits they don't have a good idea what that level should be.
 
2013-12-21 02:05:27 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: belhade: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: If I owned a company I certainly wouldn't hire any potheads any more than I'd hire an alcoholic.

What's the difference between having a beer or two in the evening, and having a toke in the evening?

Moderate drinking does not an alcoholic make. Moderate use does not a "pothead" make.

Hence why I said "alcoholic" and "pothead", not "social drinker" and "occasional weed smoker".


To be fair, because there is still a stigma attached to marijuana the word "pothead" is often used to denote anyone that uses it. It's liberally applied to both the people that take a couple hits at a party on a weekend, and the wake and bake crowd.
 
2013-12-21 02:08:10 PM

MayoSlather: Livinglush: It's because what you do on your personal time still affects your work time. If what you do at home affects your performance at work it is no longer personal. FYI I use quotes around "work hours" all the time as well, because as salaried employees, if my employees need to go to the doctor, to pick up their kids or run a personal errand, they can do so as long as it doesn't affect their performance overall.

I'm not seeing what you are missing. Are you trying to tell me that your choices should be allowed to affect my income and the income of those around me? Or are you saying we should all work harder to make up for the fact that you feel "mellow" today?

You've created quite a slippery slope. By that same logic an employer should be able to implement curfews, tell you what to eat, what type of person to be in a relationship with, and dictate that you only take up low risk hobbies. Drug use is no different, it can be used responsibly just like alcohol, or be abused where it becomes a detriment.


There is no slope, only reality.

If you aren't getting enough sleep and it affects your performance, a correction is needed.

If you keep ending up in the hospital because of your free diving with AIDS infected sharks while juggling chainsaws, a correction is needed.

You can do whatever you want with your life, but if it affects your work, correct or be asked to leave.

You don't have to like it, you can work elsewhere. If you can live a moderate lifestyle and work hard, I'll make it worth your while.

During the downturn my business lost over $250k a year for five years. I did not lay off one employee. I did not reduce salaries or benefits (even as costs rose.). I didn't even cancel the Christmas party. I DID go without a salary myself for three of those years, with a child and a stay at home wife. Don't I have a right to ask for commitment from my employees?
 
2013-12-21 02:09:31 PM
China laughs.
/easy pickins ahead
 
2013-12-21 02:16:39 PM

vbob: China laughs.
/easy pickins ahead

 starts coughing because of smog

/ftfy
 
2013-12-21 02:31:18 PM

Livinglush: MayoSlather: Livinglush: It's because what you do on your personal time still affects your work time. If what you do at home affects your performance at work it is no longer personal. FYI I use quotes around "work hours" all the time as well, because as salaried employees, if my employees need to go to the doctor, to pick up their kids or run a personal errand, they can do so as long as it doesn't affect their performance overall.

I'm not seeing what you are missing. Are you trying to tell me that your choices should be allowed to affect my income and the income of those around me? Or are you saying we should all work harder to make up for the fact that you feel "mellow" today?

You've created quite a slippery slope. By that same logic an employer should be able to implement curfews, tell you what to eat, what type of person to be in a relationship with, and dictate that you only take up low risk hobbies. Drug use is no different, it can be used responsibly just like alcohol, or be abused where it becomes a detriment.

There is no slope, only reality.

If you aren't getting enough sleep and it affects your performance, a correction is needed.

If you keep ending up in the hospital because of your free diving with AIDS infected sharks while juggling chainsaws, a correction is needed.

You can do whatever you want with your life, but if it affects your work, correct or be asked to leave.

You don't have to like it, you can work elsewhere. If you can live a moderate lifestyle and work hard, I'll make it worth your while.

During the downturn my business lost over $250k a year for five years. I did not lay off one employee. I did not reduce salaries or benefits (even as costs rose.). I didn't even cancel the Christmas party. I DID go without a salary myself for three of those years, with a child and a stay at home wife. Don't I have a right to ask for commitment from my employees?


You basically just parrotted what I said at the end of my last post except from what I gathered from your previous post you're against employees being potheads, which is to allude to the idea that the marijuana use has direct correlation to lower job performance. My point is that it's fine as long as it's used responsibility. And as long as your employees get their work done in a timely and competent manner then why would you care what they're doing in their personal time.
 
2013-12-21 02:31:24 PM

Livinglush: MayoSlather: Livinglush: It's because what you do on your personal time still affects your work time. If what you do at home affects your performance at work it is no longer personal. FYI I use quotes around "work hours" all the time as well, because as salaried employees, if my employees need to go to the doctor, to pick up their kids or run a personal errand, they can do so as long as it doesn't affect their performance overall.

I'm not seeing what you are missing. Are you trying to tell me that your choices should be allowed to affect my income and the income of those around me? Or are you saying we should all work harder to make up for the fact that you feel "mellow" today?

You've created quite a slippery slope. By that same logic an employer should be able to implement curfews, tell you what to eat, what type of person to be in a relationship with, and dictate that you only take up low risk hobbies. Drug use is no different, it can be used responsibly just like alcohol, or be abused where it becomes a detriment.

There is no slope, only reality.

If you aren't getting enough sleep and it affects your performance, a correction is needed.

If you keep ending up in the hospital because of your free diving with AIDS infected sharks while juggling chainsaws, a correction is needed.

You can do whatever you want with your life, but if it affects your work, correct or be asked to leave.

You don't have to like it, you can work elsewhere. If you can live a moderate lifestyle and work hard, I'll make it worth your while.

During the downturn my business lost over $250k a year for five years. I did not lay off one employee. I did not reduce salaries or benefits (even as costs rose.). I didn't even cancel the Christmas party. I DID go without a salary myself for three of those years, with a child and a stay at home wife. Don't I have a right to ask for commitment from my employees?


Do you not see the problem with not demonstrating impairment but relying in a piss test to "OMG, he is was high!"?
 
2013-12-21 02:42:14 PM
Assuming this reply was to someone else?
 
2013-12-21 02:43:47 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: If I owned a company I certainly wouldn't hire any potheads any more than I'd hire an alcoholic.


Trolltastic!
 
2013-12-21 02:43:51 PM

MayoSlather: Livinglush: MayoSlather: Livinglush: It's because what you do on your personal time still affects your work time. If what you do at home affects your performance at work it is no longer personal. FYI I use quotes around "work hours" all the time as well, because as salaried employees, if my employees need to go to the doctor, to pick up their kids or run a personal errand, they can do so as long as it doesn't affect their performance overall.

I'm not seeing what you are missing. Are you trying to tell me that your choices should be allowed to affect my income and the income of those around me? Or are you saying we should all work harder to make up for the fact that you feel "mellow" today?

You've created quite a slippery slope. By that same logic an employer should be able to implement curfews, tell you what to eat, what type of person to be in a relationship with, and dictate that you only take up low risk hobbies. Drug use is no different, it can be used responsibly just like alcohol, or be abused where it becomes a detriment.

There is no slope, only reality.

If you aren't getting enough sleep and it affects your performance, a correction is needed.

If you keep ending up in the hospital because of your free diving with AIDS infected sharks while juggling chainsaws, a correction is needed.

You can do whatever you want with your life, but if it affects your work, correct or be asked to leave.

You don't have to like it, you can work elsewhere. If you can live a moderate lifestyle and work hard, I'll make it worth your while.

During the downturn my business lost over $250k a year for five years. I did not lay off one employee. I did not reduce salaries or benefits (even as costs rose.). I didn't even cancel the Christmas party. I DID go without a salary myself for three of those years, with a child and a stay at home wife. Don't I have a right to ask for commitment from my employees?

You basically just parrotted what I said at the end of my last post except from what I gathered from your previous post you're against employees being potheads, which is to allude to the idea that the marijuana use has direct correlation to lower job performance. My point is that it's fine as long as it's used responsibility. And as long as your employees get their work done in a timely and competent manner then why would you care what they're doing in their personal time.


I'm not ALLUDING to anything. I'm stating that excess use of any recreational substance wil affect job performance.
 
2013-12-21 02:55:53 PM

Livinglush: MayoSlather: Livinglush: MayoSlather: Livinglush: It's because what you do on your personal time still affects your work time. If what you do at home affects your performance at work it is no longer personal. FYI I use quotes around "work hours" all the time as well, because as salaried employees, if my employees need to go to the doctor, to pick up their kids or run a personal errand, they can do so as long as it doesn't affect their performance overall.


You basically just parrotted what I said at the end of ...
I'm not ALLUDING to anything. I'm stating that excess use of any recreational substance wil affect job performance.


Accepted.
Implied is a qualitative/quantitative scaling of "performance".
So where is the measurement of "performance" before hiring?
Is there a "performance" selection to "drug" testing, why random?
 
2013-12-21 02:59:29 PM

radarlove: LeroyBourne: I don't smoke anymore.  I just don't like the feeling of being high, but I love the smell and taste.  I wonder if that Charlotte's Web stuff still smells and tastes like weed.

It does.  At least it certainly did during the final stages of the hybridization.  Mellow, sweet, almost grapey.  Absolutely no psychoactive effects whatsoever.  Amazing strain.


Clicks profile*  Ahh, I figured as much.  Thanks for the info.  If/when it comes to my side of town I'll pick up some and give it a try.
 
2013-12-21 03:10:24 PM
Livinglush:

Dude, you been lied to so long, your paradigms are are going to take a lot of work to get enlightened.
Sooner, you start, sooner you move on.
 
2013-12-21 03:35:20 PM
Livinglush

[clip]
We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.

Says Nancy, while perched on Mr. T's lap...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/man -sets-marijuana-record-smokes-115000 -joints-provided/story?id=9159281

"I don't get high. I need the medicine; I'm not getting any euphoria," he said.

I don't doubt that he needs it for his condition, but this is a lie.

And what if it is?  Joker has been huffing 9 ounces of Uncle Sugar's 3.5% Delta Nine (certified) every month since 1982 (he just testified in KY month before last) and has been constantly employed as a stockbroker.  Any true `euphoria' he might be experiencing probably has to do with the fact that he is alive and fully functioning.  So, what's drug testing's actual purpose?  Why not rely on computerized performance testing (before clocking in one has to `beat' the computer - the tests are being used - either one's hand/eye coord & passing test measuring variables of attention - is met, or one doesn't clock-in - the cause of failure can be ferreted out after the fact - arguing all night with the old lady or too much Xanax...).

I'm not opposed to it. I'm not against the drug or it's use, medically OR recreationally. I just don't think it's users have a right to affect the workplace negatively


So, in Rosenfeld's case, you'd want him to be subjected to a quantitative test of his THC level to insure he had a substantial enough amount of the THC on board to perform his tasks as a stockbroker in the manner in which you, as the employer, had come to rely on?  I mean, if he wasn't smoking enough, might not his trades for clients drop off or otherwise suffer?

Actual performance, not pi*s implied bullshiat is all that matters
 
2013-12-21 03:49:39 PM

Livinglush: The My Little Pony Killer: Livinglush: The My Little Pony Killer: Livinglush: The My Little Pony Killer: Livinglush: Misconduc: skinink: Doesn't matter if it's legal if a lot of work places won't hire people who use any drugs.

Yeah I'd like to tell Walmart something about that, they are farking idiots. Back when I was 17 I wanted a part time job stocking shelves at walmart, I went in for the interview on a friday afternoon. Boss said yer hired! get a drug test and you can start tuesday.
No clinic was open on Saturday or Sunday, and Monday was a Holiday... Guess what happens if you cant get a drug test in 72 hours? Sorry! don't apply at walmart for 6 months.

I laugh at all the potheads who think they can miss clear and get away with it, it works great until you get "fired" for drugs, most companies won't even go near you because you are a liability.

/On a funny note, I was a cable installer a few years ago making $800 a week cash, after 4 months they did random drug testing on everyone, my department went from 13 installers and 2 technicians to 2 installers and 2 technicians, 11 people fired for having drugs in their system.
//wouldn't you if you would spend 8 hours digging? on the plus side I became a senior technician not even 6 months of working there :)

We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.

So you don't hire alcoholics either, right? Because otherwise you're just a hypocrite.

Not knowingly, no. All things in moderation, and moderation in some things is much less than others. Subjective, yes, but that's my right as an employer. I pay well over industry average and expect more in return.

So that's a 'yes' to the you're a hypocrite part of my comment then.

Think what you like, it's your right. Doesn't affect me one bit. I do detect a bit of bitterness on your part though.

Ahh, projection. I see you're no longer interested in conversa ...


Point to the post where I called you a name. Do it so that I can show you where in your OP you started the name calling and embarrass you further.
 
2013-12-21 03:53:21 PM

Crazy Lee: Livinglush

[clip]
We'll deserved. I don't want any potheads working for me. You can do it on your "personal time", but the truth is that effects longer for days, and are cumulative.

Says Nancy, while perched on Mr. T's lap...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/man -sets-marijuana-record-smokes-115000 -joints-provided/story?id=9159281

"I don't get high. I need the medicine; I'm not getting any euphoria," he said.

I don't doubt that he needs it for his condition, but this is a lie.

And what if it is?  Joker has been huffing 9 ounces of Uncle Sugar's 3.5% Delta Nine (certified) every month since 1982 (he just testified in KY month before last) and has been constantly employed as a stockbroker.  Any true `euphoria' he might be experiencing probably has to do with the fact that he is alive and fully functioning.  So, what's drug testing's actual purpose?  Why not rely on computerized performance testing (before clocking in one has to `beat' the computer - the tests are being used - either one's hand/eye coord & passing test measuring variables of attention - is met, or one doesn't clock-in - the cause of failure can be ferreted out after the fact - arguing all night with the old lady or too much Xanax...).

I'm not opposed to it. I'm not against the drug or it's use, medically OR recreationally. I just don't think it's users have a right to affect the workplace negatively

So, in Rosenfeld's case, you'd want him to be subjected to a quantitative test of his THC level to insure he had a substantial enough amount of the THC on board to perform his tasks as a stockbroker in the manner in which you, as the employer, had come to rely on?  I mean, if he wasn't smoking enough, might not his trades for clients drop off or otherwise suffer?

Actual performance, not pi*s implied bullshiat is all that matters


He doesn't have a problem with pot. Weren't you listening? He just has a problem with the giant strawmen he's been building up for himself this entire thread.
 
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