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(TreeHugger)   Since the ban on large sodas went over so smoothly, New York City is now set to ban Styrofoam cups   (treehugger.com) divider line 108
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2013-12-21 08:50:18 AM
Well, truth be told, this one's a lot easier than the soda one was.
 
2013-12-21 08:58:37 AM
Has Bloomberg crowned himself with a laurel wreath and proclaimed himself as emperor of New York yet?
 
2013-12-21 10:11:42 AM
Rape and murder are still okay though.
 
2013-12-21 10:13:31 AM
yeah well i'll throw     3 styrofoam cups on the ground here and real america  to show those liberals, yes siree bob!    this is 'merica we have freedumb around these parts!
 
2013-12-21 10:14:15 AM

gunsmack: Rape and murder are still okay though.


only if his personal army does it
 
2013-12-21 10:15:30 AM
Will they ban all expanded polystyrene foam cups? Or just Styrofoam® brand?
 
2013-12-21 10:18:31 AM
I'm trying to think of the last time i ended up with one of those.
which places still use them?
i kinda miss them for coffee i guess. I'm not a fan of hot coffee in a paper cup.
 
2013-12-21 10:18:39 AM
FTA: "New York is now the largest U.S. city to implement such a ban on single-use foam containers."  Umm....I don't even know where to start...
 
2013-12-21 10:18:47 AM
Is there anything that New Yawkers are not afraid of?
 
2013-12-21 10:19:45 AM

Aar1012: Has Bloomberg crowned himself with a laurel wreath and proclaimed himself as emperor

Commissar of New York yet?

FTFY. It's a bit more appropriate.
 
2013-12-21 10:19:47 AM
Jesus Christ, it's going to take years to clean up Bloomberg's mess.  That little farker should move to California where they appreciate these things.  He's ruined New York.
 
2013-12-21 10:19:55 AM

Aar1012: Has Bloomberg crowned himself with a laurel wreath and proclaimed himself as emperor of New York yet?


when does he make a horse a councilman?
 
2013-12-21 10:20:07 AM

Moron Police: FTA: "New York is now the largest U.S. city to implement such a ban on single-use foam containers."  Umm....I don't even know where to start...


Pull them over?
 
2013-12-21 10:20:35 AM

Captain Horatio Mindblower: Will they ban all expanded polystyrene foam cups? Or just Styrofoam® brand?


Beats me, but the article talks about single use containers. Simply designate the containers your business uses as dual use and be done with it.
 
2013-12-21 10:22:26 AM
Switch to single use ceramic mug.
 
2013-12-21 10:22:40 AM
Just dont put petrol in those cups....
 
2013-12-21 10:25:15 AM
Maybe it's a good idea.

costumepop.com
 
2013-12-21 10:29:41 AM
You'll have depatment stores and toilet paper,
but no styrofoam cups for the ozone layer.
 
2013-12-21 10:31:29 AM

MooseUpNorth: Moron Police: FTA: "New York is now the largest U.S. city to implement such a ban on single-use foam containers."  Umm....I don't even know where to start...

Pull them over?


Yeah, but who's going to surpass them?  It's not like there's a larger US city...
 
2013-12-21 10:33:21 AM

Moron Police: MooseUpNorth: Moron Police: FTA: "New York is now the largest U.S. city to implement such a ban on single-use foam containers."  Umm....I don't even know where to start...

Pull them over?

Yeah, but who's going to surpass them?  It's not like there's a larger US city...


*facepalm* Yes, I realize that. [writes you a warning ticket]
 
2013-12-21 10:34:40 AM
Just wait til DiBlasio actually takes over.  NYC is about to go full nanny-state state
 
2013-12-21 10:36:30 AM
Good, the stuff is an environmental nightmare. It should be outlawed everywhere.

Sooner or later we need to wake up as a society and realize that we can't keep throwing things away, especially after a single use. If it isn't recyclable and it doesn't decompose in a reasonable amount of time it should be done away with.
 
2013-12-21 10:40:36 AM
I wish they'd bring back polystyrene boxes for fast food. I might actually eat at McDonalds again.
 
2013-12-21 10:42:53 AM
http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/25/paper-cup-vs-styrofoam-cup-which- i s-the-greener-choice/#!qo965

 "Quick, which is better for the environment: paper cups or styrofoam ones? If you chose paper (because of its biodegradibility), you'd be surprised at the answer. Eco Joe tells us why styrofoam is actually the "greener" choice of the two.

For example: Paper Cups Don't Biodegrade Well, they do eventually (as does anything, eventually), but it takes much more time than I'd thought for a paper cup to biodegrade. The gubmint says, "Modern landfills are designed to inhibit degradation so that toxic wastes do not seep into the surrounding soil and groundwater. The paper cup will still be a paper cup 20 years from now."

Paper Cups Use More Raw Materials and Energy Than Styrofoam (And Cost More) This was a surprise to me: "A study by Canadian scientist Martin Hocking shows that making a paper cup uses as much petroleum or natural gas as a polystyrene cup. Plus, the paper cup uses wood pulp. The Canadian study said, 'The paper cup consumes 12 times as much steam, 36 times as much electricity, and twice as much cooling water as the plastic cup.' And because the paper cup uses more raw materials and energy, it also costs 2.5 times more than the plastic cup.""

 also: Your paper cup is destroying the world

One more link for good measure.   Paper vs. Styrofoam vs. Plastic cups
 
2013-12-21 10:45:41 AM

BunkyBrewman: http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/25/paper-cup-vs-styrofoam-cup-which- i s-the-greener-choice/#!qo965

 "Quick, which is better for the environment: paper cups or styrofoam ones? If you chose paper (because of its biodegradibility), you'd be surprised at the answer. Eco Joe tells us why styrofoam is actually the "greener" choice of the two.

For example: Paper Cups Don't Biodegrade Well, they do eventually (as does anything, eventually), but it takes much more time than I'd thought for a paper cup to biodegrade. The gubmint says, "Modern landfills are designed to inhibit degradation so that toxic wastes do not seep into the surrounding soil and groundwater. The paper cup will still be a paper cup 20 years from now."

Paper Cups Use More Raw Materials and Energy Than Styrofoam (And Cost More) This was a surprise to me: "A study by Canadian scientist Martin Hocking shows that making a paper cup uses as much petroleum or natural gas as a polystyrene cup. Plus, the paper cup uses wood pulp. The Canadian study said, 'The paper cup consumes 12 times as much steam, 36 times as much electricity, and twice as much cooling water as the plastic cup.' And because the paper cup uses more raw materials and energy, it also costs 2.5 times more than the plastic cup.""

 also: Your paper cup is destroying the world

One more link for good measure.   Paper vs. Styrofoam vs. Plastic cups


You are forgetting one thing:  Styrofoam is PETROLEUM-based.  That's oil.  And those greedy guys must be punished.
 
2013-12-21 10:47:55 AM
More proof, as if any is needed, that environmentalists are a bunch of un-American, totalitarian commies.  Don't like Styrofoam? Don't farking use it.  But don't have some tiny group of bureaucrats force your choice on everyone else.  If most folks don't want Styrofoam then most won't use it and it will go away.  If more folks want it than don't then it would be here to stay; as it should be if that is the will of the majority.  I am all for helping then environment and generally don't use Styrofoam myself, however, that is up to the individual to decide, not some group of would-be dictators sitting behind their desks somewhere.  If there were a least a public vote on it I could live with that, but when some group of elites decides for everyone else then government has run amok. Long live free market democracy!!!
 
2013-12-21 10:49:36 AM
BravadoGT: 
You are forgetting one thing:  Styrofoam is PETROLEUM-based.  That's oil.  And those greedy guys must be punished.

But...but... making paper cups use as much petroleum as a polystyrene cup.

BTW... all of those paper cups coated with low density polyethylene are not recyclable.  I want to see how Bloomberg addresses that little nugget of information.

Oh, and with a styrofoam cup, I don't have to add another cup because the coffee is too hot or another paper sleeve.

/wants to see Bloomberg's investments in the paper industry
 
2013-12-21 10:50:45 AM
How 1979.
 
2013-12-21 10:53:06 AM
At least the nypd will have another excuse when they rape... uhh... search minorities.

"I stopped and searched him because I thought he had a cup!"
 
2013-12-21 10:53:25 AM

BravadoGT: BunkyBrewman: http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/25/paper-cup-vs-styrofoam-cup-which- i s-the-greener-choice/#!qo965

 "Quick, which is better for the environment: paper cups or styrofoam ones? If you chose paper (because of its biodegradibility), you'd be surprised at the answer. Eco Joe tells us why styrofoam is actually the "greener" choice of the two.

For example: Paper Cups Don't Biodegrade Well, they do eventually (as does anything, eventually), but it takes much more time than I'd thought for a paper cup to biodegrade. The gubmint says, "Modern landfills are designed to inhibit degradation so that toxic wastes do not seep into the surrounding soil and groundwater. The paper cup will still be a paper cup 20 years from now."

Paper Cups Use More Raw Materials and Energy Than Styrofoam (And Cost More) This was a surprise to me: "A study by Canadian scientist Martin Hocking shows that making a paper cup uses as much petroleum or natural gas as a polystyrene cup. Plus, the paper cup uses wood pulp. The Canadian study said, 'The paper cup consumes 12 times as much steam, 36 times as much electricity, and twice as much cooling water as the plastic cup.' And because the paper cup uses more raw materials and energy, it also costs 2.5 times more than the plastic cup.""

 also: Your paper cup is destroying the world

One more link for good measure.   Paper vs. Styrofoam vs. Plastic cups

You are forgetting one thing:  Styrofoam is PETROLEUM-based.  That's oil.  And those greedy guys must be punished.


One type of cup is made from a renewable resource. The other type of cup is made from a non-renewable resource. The "better" option should be obvious.
 
2013-12-21 10:54:19 AM

Ima4nic8or: More proof, as if any is needed, that environmentalists are a bunch of un-American, totalitarian commies.  Don't like Styrofoam? Don't farking use it.  But don't have some tiny group of bureaucrats force your choice on everyone else.  If most folks don't want Styrofoam then most won't use it and it will go away.  If more folks want it than don't then it would be here to stay; as it should be if that is the will of the majority.  I am all for helping then environment and generally don't use Styrofoam myself, however, that is up to the individual to decide, not some group of would-be dictators sitting behind their desks somewhere.  If there were a least a public vote on it I could live with that, but when some group of elites decides for everyone else then government has run amok. Long live free market democracy!!!


Yeah! Don't want your backyard to be used as a landfill? Hey, if you don't like it, you don't have to do it, but don't tell the rest of us we can't!
 
2013-12-21 10:57:27 AM

GoldSpider: BravadoGT: BunkyBrewman: http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/25/paper-cup-vs-styrofoam-cup-which- i s-the-greener-choice/#!qo965

 "Quick, which is better for the environment: paper cups or styrofoam ones? If you chose paper (because of its biodegradibility), you'd be surprised at the answer. Eco Joe tells us why styrofoam is actually the "greener" choice of the two.

For example: Paper Cups Don't Biodegrade Well, they do eventually (as does anything, eventually), but it takes much more time than I'd thought for a paper cup to biodegrade. The gubmint says, "Modern landfills are designed to inhibit degradation so that toxic wastes do not seep into the surrounding soil and groundwater. The paper cup will still be a paper cup 20 years from now."

Paper Cups Use More Raw Materials and Energy Than Styrofoam (And Cost More) This was a surprise to me: "A study by Canadian scientist Martin Hocking shows that making a paper cup uses as much petroleum or natural gas as a polystyrene cup. Plus, the paper cup uses wood pulp. The Canadian study said, 'The paper cup consumes 12 times as much steam, 36 times as much electricity, and twice as much cooling water as the plastic cup.' And because the paper cup uses more raw materials and energy, it also costs 2.5 times more than the plastic cup.""

 also: Your paper cup is destroying the world

One more link for good measure.   Paper vs. Styrofoam vs. Plastic cups

You are forgetting one thing:  Styrofoam is PETROLEUM-based.  That's oil.  And those greedy guys must be punished.

One type of cup is made from a renewable resource. The other type of cup is made from a non-renewable resource. The "better" option should be obvious.


Did you miss the part about paper cups using as much petroleum to produce as polystyrene cups?
 
2013-12-21 11:00:16 AM

gunsmack: Rape and murder are still okay though.


And here come the folks whose vision of NYC is stuck in the 70's and 80's. Escape from New York was fiction, just so you know.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/27/new-york-city-murder-rate_n _4 002712.html

http://www.infoplease.com/us/cities/safest-dangerous-cities.html

If you are afraid to visit NYC, sorry to hear that. I would imagine it is overwhelming for someone from rural PA.
 
2013-12-21 11:00:42 AM
banning single use anything will be ok....until it gets to  TOILET PAPER.
 
2013-12-21 11:01:27 AM

BravadoGT: Just wait til DiBlasio actually takes over.  NYC is about to go full nanny-state state


You said state twice.
 
2013-12-21 11:02:59 AM

Ima4nic8or: More proof, as if any is needed, that environmentalists are a bunch of un-American, totalitarian commies.  Don't like Styrofoam? Don't farking use it.  But don't have some tiny group of bureaucrats force your choice on everyone else.  If most folks don't want Styrofoam then most won't use it and it will go away.  If more folks want it than don't then it would be here to stay; as it should be if that is the will of the majority.  I am all for helping then environment and generally don't use Styrofoam myself, however, that is up to the individual to decide, not some group of would-be dictators sitting behind their desks somewhere.  If there were a least a public vote on it I could live with that, but when some group of elites decides for everyone else then government has run amok. Long live free market democracy!!!


Like charity, voluntarily helping the environment does not give good results, and never has. There's a reason the Government steps in to force environmental regulations and to help the poor: because so few people actually do it on their own and the problem becomes a monster.
 
2013-12-21 11:03:10 AM

Fano: Aar1012: Has Bloomberg crowned himself with a laurel wreath and proclaimed himself as emperor of New York yet?

when does he make a horse a councilman?



He's as nutty as Chief Judge Cal........

static.comicvine.com
 
2013-12-21 11:03:18 AM

BravadoGT: Just wait til DiBlasio actually takes over.  NYC is about to go full nanny-state state


If only we could be more like your city with such a.... fabulous airport.
 
2013-12-21 11:04:53 AM
ITT people for whom styrofoam somehow symbolizes their freedom.

America.
 
2013-12-21 11:14:52 AM
I work at a plastics plant and we have a additive we put in certain plastic to make it rot.
Wonder if the same can work with styrofoam.
 
2013-12-21 11:16:16 AM
Why not just ban disposable cups altogether? If you want a drink in NYC, then you should bring a cup or purchase a reusable cup.

Austin banned plastic bags. If you go grocery shopping, you just have to bring your own bags... No big deal.
 
2013-12-21 11:16:25 AM

HotLonelyTeenageGirl: ITT people for whom styrofoam somehow symbolizes their freedom.

America.


How else can I make napalm to warm homeless people?
 
2013-12-21 11:17:28 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Did you miss the part about paper cups using as much petroleum to produce as polystyrene cups?


It says "as much petroleum or natural gas," which I think implys that it is refferenceing its use in generating heat/steam at the factory, and in transport. There are things that could be done by clean electricty eventually.
 
2013-12-21 11:17:46 AM

WTP 2: banning single use anything will be ok....until it gets to  TOILET PAPER.


www.gadgetteaser.com
It's coming.
 
2013-12-21 11:19:09 AM
The hate on polystyrene is ridiculous. Its easy and cheap to make, effective, and boy does it keep your drink/food cold/warm! They are awesome!
 
2013-12-21 11:21:12 AM
They're already illegal in Albany, NY

And have been banned for a while there.
 
2013-12-21 11:21:43 AM
Next up a ban on Dihydrogen Monoxide due to it's presence in water pollution.
 
2013-12-21 11:24:20 AM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: BravadoGT: Just wait til DiBlasio actually takes over.  NYC is about to go full nanny-state state

You said state twice.


He likes state.

Farken hippy.
 
2013-12-21 11:24:59 AM
Just a few more laws and regulations and everything will finally be perfect.
 
2013-12-21 11:27:08 AM

LargeCanine: The hate on polystyrene is ridiculous. Its easy and cheap to make, effective, and boy does it keep your drink/food cold/warm! They are awesome!


Unfortunately you're up against neo-hippies with the scientific literacy of your average creationist. To them, paper is good because it comes from trees, and trees are used to symbolize the environment on posters and stuff.
 
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