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(Reason Magazine)   This article has everything: illegal searches, forced anal probing, the victim being sent a bill, and a talking dog. Wait, what?   (reason.com) divider line 82
    More: Asinine, illegal search, anal probing, body cavity search, Jacob Sullum, Jane Doe, CT scans, David Eckert, U.S. Border Patrol  
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2013-12-20 11:37:20 AM
Ruh-ro, Raggy.
 
2013-12-20 11:42:35 AM
[reads TFA]

What is that H.L. Mencken quote again?
 
2013-12-20 11:59:28 AM
fruitless body cavity

i915.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-20 11:59:53 AM
That Indian broad shudda paid her housekeeper minimum wage.
/DNFTFA
 
Pud [TotalFark]
2013-12-20 12:03:17 PM
FTA- First the agents strip-searched the plaintiff, examining her anus and vagina with a flashlight.

Sounds like a party I once went to while drunk and in El Paso. You should have been there, fun was had by all. Well, maybe not all ...but maybe most ....OK, maybe just a few ...but it was fun for some.

/Not so much for others.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-12-20 12:10:24 PM
Sounds like a party I once went to while drunk and in El Paso. You should have been there, fun was had by all. Well, maybe not all ...but maybe most ....OK, maybe just a few ...but it was fun for some.

Four out of five people enjoy body cavity searches?
 
Pud [TotalFark]
2013-12-20 12:12:35 PM
You had to be there ZAZ ...and preferably on the other end of the flashlight.
 
2013-12-20 12:12:53 PM
If the dog can't testify in court, I don't see how it can provide probable cause.

And according to the Fourth Amendment, you need a warrant to search a person's cavities.
 
2013-12-20 12:14:51 PM
img.fark.net
 
2013-12-20 12:16:11 PM
This kind of abuse tends to draw attention only when the victim is "innocent," meaning he or she is not in fact smuggling drugs. But how can any society call itself civilized when it allows human beings to be treated this way in the name of locating arbitrarily proscribed substances?

Americans typically have no idea exactly how uncivilized their country is.

When they do it's usually quite a shock.
 
2013-12-20 12:24:27 PM
Remember, they're professionals. If you do it, it's rape.
 
2013-12-20 12:25:56 PM
Vaginal cavities? Maybe the officers weren't sure if women had teeth down thar.

 

dittybopper: H.L. Mencken


For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
 
2013-12-20 12:35:08 PM
Forced anal probing is best probing!

/wat?!?
 
2013-12-20 12:57:45 PM

Marcus Aurelius: This kind of abuse tends to draw attention only when the victim is "innocent," meaning he or she is not in fact smuggling drugs. But how can any society call itself civilized when it allows human beings to be treated this way in the name of locating arbitrarily proscribed substances?

Americans typically have no idea exactly how uncivilized their country is.

When they do it's usually quite a shock.


And until someone is directly confronted by just how brutal and unforgiving our society is at times, they won't believe the truth.
 
2013-12-20 01:00:46 PM
On one hand..it's a Reason Magazine article, so it's about as reliable as Fox News.

On the other hand...

Medical Center policy L-13 on searches by hospital personnel does not permit an invasion of a person's body for purposes of a search without either consent or a search warrant. However, in practice, the Medical Center staff and CBP agents routinely conduct invasive cavity searches without a warrant, consent or sufficient suspicion to justify the searches. When Ms. Doe expressed dismay about the unreasonable searches she suffered, a Medical Center employee responded that these procedures were routinely followed when an individual is brought in by CBP agents. The employee also told Ms. Doe that what happened to her was not invasive.

sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk
 
2013-12-20 01:08:57 PM
Maybe that talking dog was really just a talking coyote?
 
2013-12-20 01:10:43 PM
"Good work, boy!  [pats dog]  Look, Ma'am, you can let us search you here by the side of the road, and if you don't have anything you shouldn't have, you can be on your way in 10 minutes.  Or, you can come with us to the hospital and have them do the search.  That takes 6 hours or so.  Entirely up to you."
 
2013-12-20 01:14:18 PM

FlashHarry: [img.fark.net image 713x401]


Twinks, gypsies, grown men in wedding dresses, a cat from a bodega, puppets in disguise.
 
2013-12-20 01:16:22 PM
Disgusting abuse of power
 
2013-12-20 01:16:58 PM
Too many words, synopsis please.
 
2013-12-20 01:18:32 PM

FlashHarry: [img.fark.net image 713x401]


Thank you - Leaving happy.

/and taking my midget pinata with me
 
2013-12-20 01:19:59 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Vaginal cavities? Maybe the officers weren't sure if women had teeth down thar.

 dittybopper: H.L. Mencken

For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.


Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.
 
2013-12-20 01:22:49 PM

The Evil Home Brewer: Disgusting abuse of power


by just one or two bad apples, once again spoiling it for all the other "good" pigs.
 
2013-12-20 01:23:06 PM
Cavity searches should be illegal period. The war on drugs is no justification for sexual assault. I dont care how much dope someone can fit inside them. The human body cannot contain enough drugs to justify that type of shiat. How farked up can a nations priorities be when a sex assault is ok because there may be drugs there.

it's time all the law enforcment involved in the drug trade got a ticket to the unemployment line
 
2013-12-20 01:24:26 PM

Skyd1v: FlashHarry: [img.fark.net image 713x401]

Thank you - Leaving happy.

/and taking my midget pinata with me


"Midget piñata? What's that?"

"It's this thing where you take a midget, and shove candy up his butt, and then hit him with sticks until he poops it back out."
 
2013-12-20 01:26:47 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Cavity searches should be illegal period. The war on drugs is no justification for sexual assault. I dont care how much dope someone can fit inside them. The human body cannot contain enough drugs to justify that type of shiat. How farked up can a nations priorities be when a sex assault is ok because there may be drugs there.

it's time all the law enforcment involved in the drug trade got a ticket to the unemployment line



Nail on the head.  It is sexual assault plain and simple.  But don't worry, President Obama will get right around to curbing these federal excesses in power as he promised in 2008.
 
2013-12-20 01:26:56 PM
FTA: "Although such alerts are frequently wrong and can easily be faked, the Supreme Court has said they qualify as probable cause for a search as long as the dog is properly trained. The burden of showing a dog is not properly trained lies with the person challenging the search."

Know how I know the dog wasn't properly trained?
 
2013-12-20 01:28:52 PM
These stories disgust me.
 
2013-12-20 01:29:51 PM

GanjSmokr: bad apples, once again spoiling it for all the other "good" pigs.


www.kimballstock.com
 
2013-12-20 01:30:07 PM
So, this isn't the first, or even the second instance of this happening in the recent past.

How many times has this happened where the people have NOT come forth for one reason or another? (Embarrassment, monetary, other...)

I now have to assume that this has been happening often and we'll likely see a rash of cases come forward as they being to realize that they even can.

This is also very indicative that illegal drugs have been found using these same illegal measures. (And we may even see some of those people come forward to get their cases thrown out based on this very illegal activity!)
 
2013-12-20 01:32:33 PM
Well, I guess the ones who get all of this butt fingering and medical attention that DO have drugs are justified by the SCOTUS because they are okay with cops faking the dog alerts for probable cause.
 
2013-12-20 01:34:49 PM

Marcus Aurelius: This kind of abuse tends to draw attention only when the victim is "innocent," meaning he or she is not in fact smuggling drugs. But how can any society call itself civilized when it allows human beings to be treated this way in the name of locating arbitrarily proscribed substances?

Americans typically have no idea exactly how uncivilized their country is.

When they do it's usually quite a shock.


Until they change the channel.
 
2013-12-20 01:35:06 PM
New Mexico again with the anal probing?

Oh shiat, I know whats going on........
www.bubblews.com
t3.gstatic.com
www.outsidethebeltway.com
Its all starting to make sense.......
 
m00
2013-12-20 01:36:53 PM

keytronic: Nail on the head. It is sexual assault plain and simple. But don't worry, President Obama will get right around to curbing these federal excesses in power as he promised in 2008.


But Bush did it! Republican obstructionism! Partisan politics!
 
2013-12-20 01:39:28 PM
You know if someone is willing to shove a small amount of drugs up their ass I say we start letting them keep it.
 
2013-12-20 01:41:13 PM
"The dog said I could" almost never works as a legal defense.

/Just sayin'
 
2013-12-20 01:41:30 PM
I really wish some of these impending lawsuits were not settled out of court so that jury members could show just how displeased they were with such actions.  Punitive damages would put a dramatic stop to this bullshiat.
 
2013-12-20 01:41:47 PM

m00: keytronic: Nail on the head. It is sexual assault plain and simple. But don't worry, President Obama will get right around to curbing these federal excesses in power as he promised in 2008.

But Bush did it! Republican obstructionism! Partisan politics!


No no; as soon as he reduces the power, he'll be accused of being a dictator trying to hurt Americans by reducing our protections, and therefore he should be impeached.  And if he doesn't reduce their power, he'll be accused of allowing it to happen, and therefore should be impeached.  And if he increases oversight and regulation to try to prevent these things from happening, he'll be accused of wasting our precious tax dollars, increasing government at a time when we need to decrease it, and increasing our national debt, and therefore he should be impeached.
 
2013-12-20 01:42:25 PM
If you're in that situation I think the best thing to do would be fake pleasure, orgasm, cry, and say "not again daddy, I've been good this year." Give them the same mental scars they are giving you. Tis the season.
 
2013-12-20 01:42:34 PM
cloudfront-media.reason.com

You got quotas. I got quotas. The biatch has been on my ass to move in to one of those gotdamned McDog Houses out by the highway. Can't do that as a level one butt sniffer so every once in a while, I throw someone to the sharks.

Funny part is, it doesn't come back on me. "The dog never makes a mistake," they say. "She must have something." Hell, most of the time when they're in line for the third enema, they confess something anyways.

My supervisor says that if I keep up the good work, I'll get that lever II and the wife and pups will be living in their press board dream. Me? I'm gonna be downstairs in the 'study' surfing the web and looking at shaved Pekinese ass.
 
2013-12-20 01:43:54 PM

Hoblit: Well, I guess the ones who get all of this butt fingering and medical attention that DO have drugs are justified by the SCOTUS because they are okay with cops faking the dog alerts for probable cause.


This. SCOTUS seems to believe that drug dogs are just like metal detectors or any other scientific instrument. These dogs can be easily taught by their handlers to "alert" in response to their handler's non-verbal cues.
 
2013-12-20 01:46:22 PM
Ya know I am more sick of the 'War on Drugs' than I am over the 'War on Religion' (which we do not seem too be propegating ver ywell.)

Are they an Adult, then let them do whatever they like as long as no (non-concenting person) is hurt!
 
2013-12-20 01:47:11 PM
Assault and/or battery by a police officer on a citizen should hold a higher punishment for the police officer than assault and/or battery of a citizen against a police officer.
 
2013-12-20 01:55:11 PM

insertsnarkyusername: You know if someone is willing to shove a small amount of drugs up their ass I say we start letting them keep it.


Exactly the farking point. Here is an idea, why not offer addicts help and treatment options. Nah fark that lets just sodomize them instead.
 
2013-12-20 01:55:38 PM

a particular individual: FTA: "Although such alerts are frequently wrong and can easily be faked, the Supreme Court has said they qualify as probable cause for a search as long as the dog is properly trained. The burden of showing a dog is not properly trained lies with the person challenging the search."

Know how I know the dog wasn't properly trained?


Write it into law that any search dog that has 3 bad alerts on people or occupied areas like a vehicle with driver/passengers or an occupied home (ie., he alerts on an individual and nothing is subsequently found) must be euthanized.

Guarantee you that will stop the false positives.

How?  Couple of different ways:  First, it will stop the instances where the handler is giving cues to the dog.  No handler is going to put his dog at risk of being euthanized.

Second, it will ensure that only the adequately trained dogs are run against people.  Any dog that has 2 false positives against people is going to be relegated to sniffing packages at the post office, checked luggage at the airport, or containers at shipping yards or other 'unoccupied' places where the thing being searched doesn't involve the search of a person.
 
2013-12-20 01:57:50 PM
Did someone say talking dog? Paging Mr. Pynchon, paging Mr. Pynchon.
 
m00
2013-12-20 01:58:25 PM

mgshamster: No no; as soon as he reduces the power, he'll be accused of being a dictator trying to hurt Americans by reducing our protections, and therefore he should be impeached. And if he doesn't reduce their power, he'll be accused of allowing it to happen, and therefore should be impeached. And if he increases oversight and regulation to try to prevent these things from happening, he'll be accused of wasting our precious tax dollars, increasing government at a time when we need to decrease it, and increasing our national debt, and therefore he should be impeached.


No. If he fulfilled his campaign promise and curtailed Bush-era abuses (other than letting them continue) he would be applauded. He specifically campaigned on ending this sort of civil liberty infringement. That was his pitch. Instead he gave us the ACA, fine. But even if you like the ACA that's not what I recall his main message was.
 
2013-12-20 01:58:33 PM

rwdavis: Assault and/or battery by a police officer on a citizen should hold a higher punishment for the police officer than assault and/or battery of a citizen against a police officer.


Oh shiat yeah.

They swore a vow, the average citizen didn't.
 
2013-12-20 01:58:37 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: insertsnarkyusername: You know if someone is willing to shove a small amount of drugs up their ass I say we start letting them keep it.

Exactly the farking point. Here is an idea, why not offer addicts help and treatment options. Nah fark that lets just sodomize them instead.


Why not both?
 
2013-12-20 02:00:45 PM

dittybopper: a particular individual: FTA: "Although such alerts are frequently wrong and can easily be faked, the Supreme Court has said they qualify as probable cause for a search as long as the dog is properly trained. The burden of showing a dog is not properly trained lies with the person challenging the search."

Know how I know the dog wasn't properly trained?

Write it into law that any search dog that has 3 bad alerts on people or occupied areas like a vehicle with driver/passengers or an occupied home (ie., he alerts on an individual and nothing is subsequently found) must be euthanized.

Guarantee you that will stop the false positives.

How?  Couple of different ways:  First, it will stop the instances where the handler is giving cues to the dog.  No handler is going to put his dog at risk of being euthanized.

Second, it will ensure that only the adequately trained dogs are run against people.  Any dog that has 2 false positives against people is going to be relegated to sniffing packages at the post office, checked luggage at the airport, or containers at shipping yards or other 'unoccupied' places where the thing being searched doesn't involve the search of a person.


Did you mean 'dog' or' cop'?  I believe the punishment should be equal....
 
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