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2013-12-20 12:14:00 PM  

SordidEuphemism: The suggestion is that someone who is satisfied with the answer 'A Wizard God Did It' is useless. If you're satisfied with the answer, you feel no compulsion to prove or disprove it, and therefore will not be a good scientist.


... Do you *know* any Jesuits?
 
2013-12-20 12:14:07 PM  

Inflatable Rhetoric: Inflatable Rhetoric: nekom: luidprand:
The Pope is already a Jesuit. Can't get more based in reason, evidence, science, and freedom than that.

Neil DeGrasse Tyson said that if you want to believe that god did it and you're content with that, that's fine but you are useless in the lab.  Perhaps the Jesuits bridge that gap.  Ok God did it, but let's discover how this grand creation really works.

No, once they say "god did it," their useless in the lab.  You can't start with the conclusion.

oops, they're useless in the lab.



si0.twimg.com

A pope with a chemistry degree

Jesuit scientists from the 20th c.(feel free to read the lists from all the other centuries, including this one)

Former particle physicist Friar Andrew Pinsent explains Higgs

Rev. Cyril Opeil, SJ, is prepared to become the first Jesuit physicist ever at Los Alamos National Laboratory

Jesuit Mathematicians, Scientists and Astronomers


What did getting pwned this hard do to you?

I'm sincerely curious.

Tell me.

And remember, this is for posterity so be honest.

How do you feel?

 
2013-12-20 12:16:40 PM  
"But teh God Botherers©!"

"Oh teh Invisbil SKy Wizard!11!!"

"But teh Syince!"

Oh, go make a poor person a sandwich and give it a rest.  Seriously.  Nobody likes a Sat morning evangelist.
 
2013-12-20 12:18:58 PM  
www.hwdyk.com

This pope has very different ideas from the last one...
 
2013-12-20 12:20:12 PM  
SordidEuphemism:The suggestion is that someone who is satisfied with the answer 'A Wizard God Did It' is useless. If you're satisfied with the answer, you feel no compulsion to prove or disprove it, and therefore will not be a good scientist.

Similarly, anyone who believes undoubtedly that Catholics have this mindset concerning science is useless to this discussion.
 
2013-12-20 12:20:25 PM  

SordidEuphemism: Felgraf: Inflatable Rhetoric: Inflatable Rhetoric: nekom: luidprand:
The Pope is already a Jesuit. Can't get more based in reason, evidence, science, and freedom than that.

Neil DeGrasse Tyson said that if you want to believe that god did it and you're content with that, that's fine but you are useless in the lab.  Perhaps the Jesuits bridge that gap.  Ok God did it, but let's discover how this grand creation really works.

No, once they say "god did it," their useless in the lab.  You can't start with the conclusion.

oops, they're useless in the lab.

ARe you suggesting that any religious or spiritual person is useless as a researcher?

The suggestion is that someone who is satisfied with the answer 'A Wizard God Did It' is useless. If you're satisfied with the answer, you feel no compulsion to prove or disprove it, and therefore will not be a good scientist.


Even when they take the tack of "Okay, in the grand scheme of things God was that "spark" initiated the process, but since that's not relevant to science we'll focus on the actual grit,"?  Jesuits don't just go "God Did It!" and expect that to be a sufficient answer.  You have them confused with Southern Baptists.


The History Channel once did a really good tour of the Vatican, a glimmer of what the channel used to be.  When they got to the Vatican Observatory, they talked to its director (I believe), who had a very good quote about all this (this was a priest in direct service to the Pope, for context):  "A science book is always changing, always being kept up to date with new information.  Now, when you look at the Bible, what immediately stands out?  It never changes.  Throughout all the centuries, it stays the same.  Therefore, the Bible is not a science book."
 
2013-12-20 12:20:36 PM  

Felgraf: SordidEuphemism: The suggestion is that someone who is satisfied with the answer 'A Wizard God Did It' is useless. If you're satisfied with the answer, you feel no compulsion to prove or disprove it, and therefore will not be a good scientist.

... Do you *know* any Jesuits?


Actually, yes. My father was trained by Jesuits (but left to join the military). Either I may not be clear, or you may not be parsing correctly. Allow me to attempt to rephrase.

"God did it." That's all some folks need. If you're satisfied with those THREE WORDS, then you're useless in the lab.

"How did God do it?" is a very, very different statement. While it still states belief, it shows a curiosity to discover the underlying mechanics.

I do not mean to imply that anyone with faith is useless as a scientist. I mean to state that anyone who is satisfied with "Because God" is useless.
 
2013-12-20 12:22:11 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Speaker2Animals: Mugato: I have no love for Rush or Palin but the Pope might a little more cred if he you know, didn't have his own country.

???

I think he's saying the Pope should allow them all to emigrate to the Pope's country


In the Pope's country, dreams stay with you
Like a bishop's voice fires the mountainside
 
2013-12-20 12:22:14 PM  

bunner: Apparently, this Pope is advocating Christianity.


Yea, but I am not sure it will catch on.
 
2013-12-20 12:24:58 PM  

snocone: bunner: Apparently, this Pope is advocating Christianity.

Yea, but I am not sure it will catch on.


Yeah, something usually hijacks it at some juncture, forms splinter groups and the next thing you know, you're beheading heretics.   :  /
 
2013-12-20 12:26:29 PM  
So is the Catholic Church going to pay taxes now?
 
2013-12-20 12:27:47 PM  

SordidEuphemism: "God did it." That's all some folks need. If you're satisfied with those THREE WORDS, then you're useless in the lab.

"How did God do it?" is a very, very different statement. While it still states belief, it shows a curiosity to discover the underlying mechanics.

I do not mean to imply that anyone with faith is useless as a scientist. I mean to state that anyone who is satisfied with "Because God" is useless.


Okay! It seemed liek you were suggesting a lot of Jesuits were in the "God Did It" without the "HOW did god do it" camp, and I was going "BWAH-HUH?".

I actually agree with your sentiment, then.
 
2013-12-20 12:28:58 PM  

shirtsbyeric: So is the Catholic Church going to pay taxes now?


Is GE?
 
2013-12-20 12:29:06 PM  
this asshat needs to knock this sh*t off. I don't want to have to go back to church.
 
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2013-12-20 12:32:37 PM  

bunner: shirtsbyeric: So is the Catholic Church going to pay taxes now?

Is GE?


LOL. There goes THAT keyboard........
/ow, diet dr pepper stings the nasal passages
 
2013-12-20 12:32:38 PM  

SordidEuphemism: Felgraf: SordidEuphemism: The suggestion is that someone who is satisfied with the answer 'A Wizard God Did It' is useless. If you're satisfied with the answer, you feel no compulsion to prove or disprove it, and therefore will not be a good scientist.

... Do you *know* any Jesuits?

Actually, yes. My father was trained by Jesuits (but left to join the military). Either I may not be clear, or you may not be parsing correctly. Allow me to attempt to rephrase.

"God did it." That's all some folks need. If you're satisfied with those THREE WORDS, then you're useless in the lab.

"How did God do it?" is a very, very different statement. While it still states belief, it shows a curiosity to discover the underlying mechanics.

I do not mean to imply that anyone with faith is useless as a scientist. I mean to state that anyone who is satisfied with "Because God" is useless.


I don't think any mainstream Christian would disagree with that, and I know it's been official Catholic doctrine since Aquinnah and unofficial doctrine since Augustine of Hippo.

This isn't to say that laity or various cults within the Catholics, Episcopalians, Quakers, Lutherans, et al don't endorse magical thinking (Opus Dei and flagellation come to mind), but it is a heresy.
 
2013-12-20 12:32:57 PM  

bunner: snocone: bunner: Apparently, this Pope is advocating Christianity.

Yea, but I am not sure it will catch on.

Yeah, something usually hijacks it at some juncture, forms splinter groups and the next thing you know, you're beheading heretics.   :  /


OOh, history.
Whar the change believers when you need them?
 
2013-12-20 12:33:21 PM  

Weaver95: Speaker2Animals: Weaver95: This pope is going to be a real challenge for the us evangelical community. He isn't with the program, he's actually highlighting the fraud and hypocrisy endemic to this countries powerful semi-Christian organizations. It's going to make the mega churches look pretty bad. Oh they'll lie and say the pope doesn't matter...but the catholic church is pretty influential and everyone knows it.

I honestly don't know how limbaugh is gonna handle this one. It's a lose/lose situation for him and his prosperity gospel buddies.

I hope not the same way they "handled" John Paul I.

I think they'll try to point and laugh, then try to quietly redefine the popes comments. When that doesn't work, they'll likely say he isn't the real pope, or just ignore him as much as possible.


Oh, is it 1378 again already?
 
2013-12-20 12:34:27 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Why should we celebrate a glimmer of light when the rest of the world is darkness?


Well said.
 
2013-12-20 12:34:43 PM  

bigbobowski: this asshat needs to knock this sh*t off. I don't want to have to go back to church.


To have a money-grubbing basket shoved in front of your face after they tell you you're guilty since birth of a sin you didn't even commit?

No thanks.
 
2013-12-20 12:36:44 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: Nabb1: 2wolves: It's not always about the U.S.. Really it isn't. That sort of arrogance is known to irk a large number of people.

Very much this. He is setting an example for the faithful around the world as well as trying to display compassion for humanity to inspire believers and non-believers alike. It is foolish to view this myopically in terms of the US and our own internal politics.

I know you're not new here so why the  ?!?!... . EVERYTHING is filtered through internal American viewpoints and politics here.


Isn't that what really matters?  I mean, sure the Pope did something nice, but isn't it really important to turn every conversation into yet another Fark circlejerk of "herp derp republicans are evil and hate brown people"?
 
2013-12-20 12:39:23 PM  
The Palin, Limbaug and Hanity Jesus:

s23.postimg.org
 
2013-12-20 12:40:07 PM  

SordidEuphemism: I do not mean to imply that anyone with faith is useless as a scientist. I mean to state that anyone who is satisfied with "Because God" is useless.


Better! Catholics are aware that some members are comforted by the simplicity of fundamentalism. It is not the Catholic stance concerning science whatsoever. These folks (fundamentalists) are abided in the manner of a child's beliefs. It is considered that not every person has the faculty for deeper understanding. Officially they are forgiven and accepted for doing the best they can. The Church itself has no fear of scientific truths. Everything we learn contributes more to the wonder of creation (including ourselves). Even the possibility of life outside of Earth has been specifically addressed and deemed to be no threat to Catholicism by the freakin' Pope.
/not the current one, iirc it was JPII that spoke of extraterrestrial life this way.
 
2013-12-20 12:40:10 PM  
NEDM:

The History Channel once did a really good tour of the Vatican, a glimmer of what the channel used to be.  When they got to the Vatican Observatory, they talked to its director (I believe), who had a very good quote about all this (this was a priest in direct service to the Pope, for context):  "A science book is always changing, always being kept up to date with new information.  Now, when you look at the Bible, what immediately stands out?  It never changes.  Throughout all the centuries, it stays the same.  Therefore, the Bible is not a science book."

Public Radio show with an excellent interview with two Vatican Astronomers Among other things, a belief in the possibility of intelligent life on other planets.
 
2013-12-20 12:40:18 PM  

chapman: Isn't that what really matters?  I mean, sure the Pope did something nice, but isn't it really important to turn every conversation into yet another Fark circlejerk of "herp derp republicans are evil and hate brown people"?


Well, it's a great springboard for complaining about other users instead of contributing, but you can still sound oh, so above it all.  Like, that's useful, ain't it?
 
2013-12-20 12:42:20 PM  
I am usually the first guy to whine about the never ending cycle of the same threads. Having said that, I will take two Pope threads every damn day of the week. And for every atheist who wants to dismiss this guy- he might just renew your faith in humanity.
 
2013-12-20 12:44:00 PM  

Phinn: Great.  An international calling card and a day pass for the metro.  And some stamps.

What about the other hmm...hmm billion people living in poverty and the other 364 days of the year?


What about them?  What do you want him to do?
 
2013-12-20 12:46:58 PM  
Ablejack(12:40:07):

Even the possibility of life outside of Earth has been specifically addressed and deemed to be no threat to Catholicism by the freakin' Pope.


Me (12:40:10):  Among other things, a belief in the possibility of intelligent life on other planets.

THREE seconds!

If I were to convert to Catholicism, definitely Society of Jesus for me, except that I'm not smart enough.
 
2013-12-20 12:49:49 PM  

Graffito: Phinn: Great.  An international calling card and a day pass for the metro.  And some stamps.

What about the other hmm...hmm billion people living in poverty and the other 364 days of the year?

What about them?  What do you want him to do?


Yes, do you really expect this guy to head up the largest charitable organization in the history of the world?
 
2013-12-20 12:50:31 PM  

Unobtanium: Ablejack(12:40:07):

Even the possibility of life outside of Earth has been specifically addressed and deemed to be no threat to Catholicism by the freakin' Pope.


Me (12:40:10):  Among other things, a belief in the possibility of intelligent life on other planets.

THREE seconds!

If I were to convert to Catholicism, definitely Society of Jesus for me, except that I'm not smart enough.


I saw, I saw.
 
2013-12-20 12:53:52 PM  

alice_600: Phinn: HotWingConspiracy: Phinn: Great.  An international calling card and a day pass for the metro.  And some stamps.

What about the other hmm...hmm billion people living in poverty and the other 364 days of the year?

What's your plan for them? Sounds like you have some alternatives.

Reason.  Evidence.  Science.  Freedom.

I tried it it didn't work for me. Freedom is different things to different people.



No, supernatural beings are different things to different people.  It's easy to be different, because it's all imaginary.  Your made-up nonsense will almost certainly be different than anyone else's made-up nonsense.

In contrast, reason, evidence, science and freedom are objective.  In this context, "freedom" means, of course, freedom from aggression--any act that violates your rights to life, liberty and property.

Since all rights are negative, a better way to phrase it would be the rights to (a) not be killed, (b) not be restrained from engaging in any peaceful behavior, and (c) not to have anyone interfere with your use of some object.

The exact same duties to refrain from doing these things to others naturally apply to you, as well.  That's what legal equality means--universality of ethical principle.  Which is why such rights can't "mean different things to different people."  To be universal and equal (as they must be, to be valid), they must (by definition) mean the same thing in all places at all times.

QED
 
2013-12-20 12:57:03 PM  
We build lots of useful things that work just fine.

Then somebody misuses them.

The the subversion / misuse becomes SOP, the justifications become prolix, and the results destroy the usefulness.

Repeat loop, cross fingers, fall on ass again.
 
2013-12-20 12:58:03 PM  
I think we are being hasty here.
Those nice people with TV shows and audiences that would never hear of this Pope without teir spreading the word.
"There is no bad publicity" maybe said by P.T. Barnum covers it.

If Limbaugh and Palen and the Teabaggers et.al. would just learn when to shut up, they could become dangerous.
 
2013-12-20 12:59:11 PM  
what is that filter on?
 
2013-12-20 01:01:43 PM  

Ablejack: Graffito: Phinn: Great.  An international calling card and a day pass for the metro.  And some stamps.

What about the other hmm...hmm billion people living in poverty and the other 364 days of the year?

What about them?  What do you want him to do?

Yes, do you really expect this guy to head up the largest charitable organization in the history of the world?


I was hoping for a meaningful response from Phinn.  Poverty is a very complex problem and the pope should probably do more.  What would you or Phinn like to see him do?  Apparently doing something is worse than doing nothing.
 
2013-12-20 01:02:27 PM  

Crass and Jaded Mother Farker: Odd, I didn't notice the words "illegal" or "undocumented" anywhere in that story.


The general idea behind the headline is that Rush and Palin think the Pope 'appears liberal' and/or 'marxist'.

Then on the politics tab a month ago was the joke with "The Pope is now actively trolling Palin" days after she made her 'the pope might be liberal' comment as the article was on the Pope being against Fraking.

This guy seems to keep being against what those two think are good.

Odd that it keeps working in his favor and he genuinely doesn't give two farks about them, and continues on with his day giving to poor people and taking selfies with Tourists.
 
2013-12-20 01:05:39 PM  

snocone: If Limbaugh and Palen and the Teabaggers et.al. would just learn when to shut up, they could become dangerous.


Never worry too much about the loudmouths.  The cat in the corner with his head down, quiet, watching, smoldering.  Worry about that motherf*cker.
 
2013-12-20 01:08:26 PM  

Graffito: Phinn: Great.  An international calling card and a day pass for the metro.  And some stamps.

What about the other hmm...hmm billion people living in poverty and the other 364 days of the year?

What about them?  What do you want him to do?



I expect him to stop spreading outright nonsense as though it's true, for starters.

I expect him to stop trying to persuade people to believe things that cause them to stop seeking truth.  Supernatural dogma isn't an answer to any question.  It's worse--it's an anti-answer, in that it actively displaces the right answer we haven't found yet.  If someone asks you for directions to a place, and you say, "I don't know," then you've given no answer.  But if he asks you and you say, "It's that a-way, sir!" but you're completely wrong, then you have actively inhibited his effort to get to his destination.  He's now worse off than if you had simply said nothing, or confessed ignorance.  You've given an actively harmful anti-answer.

That's religion.  It poses as an answer, but is a deliberately false one.

Notice how every time reason provides an answer, religious explanations retreat to the dark corners of the room.  If you explain some phenomenon with reason and evidence, religion backs up and says that "the supernatural beings must have motivated it from a place beyond our current perception."  And so on, and so on, until religion has retreated to its current refuge--the cosmological origins of the universe.  Science can't explain it, so religious nutters hide there, saying, "I'm going to believe this fairy tale until you prove me wrong."

As though, somehow, a bunch of goat-herding Levantine sky-worshipers, with no concept of science or logic or even microorganisms, managed to GUESS the true nature of the origins of the universe and were spot-on correct about the whole monotheism concept, and that 2 or 3 thousand years later, after science has managed to invalidate 99.9% of their bullsh*t, we are still obligated to assume that THEY MUST HAVE BEEN RIGHT ABOUT SOMETHING, so they fall back to the idea that, well, God must have been the cosmological origin of everything, and it's up to the atheists to prove them wrong.

Please.
 
2013-12-20 01:08:38 PM  
Huh..not many Jesuit churches in the US...they're all spread out.

Genuinely curious to meet some after all this talk about'em recently.
 
2013-12-20 01:13:58 PM  

Phinn: Since all rights are negative, a better way to phrase it would be the rights to (a) not be killed, (b) not be restrained from engaging in any peaceful behavior, and (c) not to have anyone interfere with your use of some object.


Define peaceful behavior. Should I be restrained from, say, lying about what's in a product I'm making? That's not *directly* killing someone.

What about pollution? Is the EPA necessary, or a blight on freedom?

Child labor laws?

Food inspection laws?

Some say, yes.The FDA is an affront to freedom.

Some say, no, the FDA is a necessary defender of freedom.

So, yes, actually. Freedom ABSOLUTELY can be interpreted differently by different people, depending on what axioms a person has chosen to follow.
 
2013-12-20 01:17:38 PM  

Phinn: Graffito: Phinn: Great.  An international calling card and a day pass for the metro.  And some stamps.

What about the other hmm...hmm billion people living in poverty and the other 364 days of the year?

What about them?  What do you want him to do?

I expect him to stop spreading outright nonsense as though it's true, for starters.

I expect him to stop trying to persuade people to believe things that cause them to stop seeking truth.  Supernatural dogma isn't an answer to any question.  It's worse--it's an anti-answer, in that it actively displaces the right answer we haven't found yet.  If someone asks you for directions to a place, and you say, "I don't know," then you've given no answer.  But if he asks you and you say, "It's that a-way, sir!" but you're completely wrong, then you have actively inhibited his effort to get to his destination.  He's now worse off than if you had simply said nothing, or confessed ignorance.  You've given an actively harmful anti-answer.

That's religion.  It poses as an answer, but is a deliberately false one.


No, not at all. Deliberate implies that there is an active lie, which is only true in cults.

Notice how every time reason provides an answer, religious explanations retreat to the dark corners of the room.  If you explain some phenomenon with reason and evidence, religion backs up and says that "the supernatural beings must have motivated it from a place beyond our current perception."  And so on, and so on, until religion has retreated to its current refuge--the cosmological origins of the universe.  Science can't explain it, so religious nutters hide there, saying, "I'm going to believe this fairy tale until you prove me wrong."

Not how modern religions poses or answers questions. That's the "God of the Gaps" argument, which stopped being relevant at least what, 2500 years ago? You're thinking of pantheism, or Western religions that predate (or never incorporated) Hellenistic philosophy.

As though, somehow, a bunch of goat-herding Levantine sky-worshipers, with no concept of science or logic or even microorganisms, managed to GUESS the true nature of the origins of the universe and were spot-on correct about the whole monotheism concept, and that 2 or 3 thousand years later, after science has managed to invalidate 99.9% of their bullsh*t, we are still obligated to assum ...

Wow. You really don't understand religion at all, do you? You seem to be arguing against things most belief systems don't actually believe or categorically misunderstanding them (I'll assume ignorance and not malice, here).
 
2013-12-20 01:24:38 PM  

Phinn: Graffito: Phinn: Great.  An international calling card and a day pass for the metro.  And some stamps.

What about the other hmm...hmm billion people living in poverty and the other 364 days of the year?

What about them?  What do you want him to do?

I expect him to stop spreading outright nonsense as though it's true, for starters.

I expect him to stop trying to persuade people to believe things that cause them to stop seeking truth.  Supernatural dogma isn't an answer to any question.  It's worse--it's an anti-answer, in that it actively displaces the right answer we haven't found yet.  If someone asks you for directions to a place, and you say, "I don't know," then you've given no answer.  But if he asks you and you say, "It's that a-way, sir!" but you're completely wrong, then you have actively inhibited his effort to get to his destination.  He's now worse off than if you had simply said nothing, or confessed ignorance.  You've given an actively harmful anti-answer.

That's religion.  It poses as an answer, but is a deliberately false one.

Notice how every time reason provides an answer, religious explanations retreat to the dark corners of the room.  If you explain some phenomenon with reason and evidence, religion backs up and says that "the supernatural beings must have motivated it from a place beyond our current perception."  And so on, and so on, until religion has retreated to its current refuge--the cosmological origins of the universe.  Science can't explain it, so religious nutters hide there, saying, "I'm going to believe this fairy tale until you prove me wrong."

As though, somehow, a bunch of goat-herding Levantine sky-worshipers, with no concept of science or logic or even microorganisms, managed to GUESS the true nature of the origins of the universe and were spot-on correct about the whole monotheism concept, and that 2 or 3 thousand years later, after science has managed to invalidate 99.9% of their bullsh*t, we are still obligated to assum ...


Look, dude, I'm an atheist.  I've no use for religion.  I'm not asking what he is NOT supposed to do.  I am asking what he is supposed to do.   Resign the papacy?
The RCC is a huge, wealthy and influential institution that's not going away anytime soon.  If he can direct it to a more 'Christlike' mission, I support him.

Criticism is easy.  Problem solving is hard.
 
2013-12-20 01:25:12 PM  

Felgraf: Should I be restrained from, say, lying about what's in a product I'm making? That's not *directly* killing someone.



Yes, that's fraud.  It's theft by deception.  (Sort of like a religion asking for donations.)


Felgraf: What about pollution?



Pollution is a trespass--the way a polluter is using his property is causing unwanted, harmful substances to interfere with my use of my property.  You can't use your back yard for target practice knowing that your missed shots are going to sail into your neighbor's yard, and you similarly can't spew toxic smoke that rains sulfur on his yard, either.

Pollution is a simple property rights problem, and was handled that way for centuries, until the Anglo-American court system gutted property rights by referring to misguided Progressive legal theories that a central authority could authorize important economic actors to essentially violate other people's property rights with impunity.


Felgraf: Child labor laws?



They forced an entire generation of children out of work and into starvation and/or prostitution.


Felgraf: Food inspection laws?



Generally ineffective toward achieving their (stated) goal, and are frequently designed, purchased and used by large-scale producers as a weapon against competition.
 
2013-12-20 01:25:17 PM  
But did he grant them citizenship in the country he rules as an absolute monarch (Vatican City)?
 
2013-12-20 01:26:40 PM  

Barbecue Bob: A Christian acting Christ-like and it's international news.
Tells you how sad the planet has become.


Why? because up until Francis, every single terrible event that has happened in the entire course of human civilization had been caused by hypocritical Christians?
 
2013-12-20 01:27:09 PM  

Capo Del Bandito: Crass and Jaded Mother Farker: Odd, I didn't notice the words "illegal" or "undocumented" anywhere in that story.

The general idea behind the headline is that Rush and Palin think the Pope 'appears liberal' and/or 'marxist'.

Then on the politics tab a month ago was the joke with "The Pope is now actively trolling Palin" days after she made her 'the pope might be liberal' comment as the article was on the Pope being against Fraking.

This guy seems to keep being against what those two think are good.

Odd that it keeps working in his favor and he genuinely doesn't give two farks about them, and continues on with his day giving to poor people and taking selfies with Tourists.


I understand that, but my "general idea" was, in this case, they wouldn't care either.
 
2013-12-20 01:28:02 PM  

Graffito: Ablejack: Graffito: Phinn: Great.  An international calling card and a day pass for the metro.  And some stamps.

What about the other hmm...hmm billion people living in poverty and the other 364 days of the year?

What about them?  What do you want him to do?

Yes, do you really expect this guy to head up the largest charitable organization in the history of the world?

I was hoping for a meaningful response from Phinn.  Poverty is a very complex problem and the pope should probably do more.  What would you or Phinn like to see him do?  Apparently doing something is worse than doing nothing.


I do appreciate that the Pope is not solely doing charitable works. Including the Church as a whole as well as his own personal examples. Pope Francis has also been calling out to those in positions of power around the world (business, politics, etc) to take responsibility in the task of allaying any human suffering.
 
2013-12-20 01:40:35 PM  

Phinn: Pollution is a trespass--the way a polluter is using his property is causing unwanted, harmful substances to interfere with my use of my property.  You can't use your back yard for target practice knowing that your missed shots are going to sail into your neighbor's yard, and you similarly can't spew toxic smoke that rains sulfur on his yard, either.


Actually, a nuisance.  The substantial interference of the use and enjoyment of one's property.
 
2013-12-20 01:41:16 PM  

Phinn: Yes, that's fraud.  It's theft by deception.  (Sort of like a religion asking for donations.


When is the book coming out?  *snort*
 
2013-12-20 01:47:58 PM  

chapman: Phinn: Pollution is a trespass--the way a polluter is using his property is causing unwanted, harmful substances to interfere with my use of my property.  You can't use your back yard for target practice knowing that your missed shots are going to sail into your neighbor's yard, and you similarly can't spew toxic smoke that rains sulfur on his yard, either.

Actually, a nuisance.  The substantial interference of the use and enjoyment of one's property.



Yes, pollution is nuisance by trespass--by the physical intrusion of noxious substances, as opposed to nuisance by doing things that annoy the neighbors.

That whole area of the law, that once protected against such intrusions, was eliminated by judges over the course of the mid-to-late 19th century, in order to protect manufacturers from having their polluting operations stopped, or paying damages.

This was done in furtherance of the misguided Progressive legal theory that judges could tinker with property rights for the supposed economic betterment of society as a whole, regardless of the fact that individual plaintiffs whose property had been polluted got the shaft.
 
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