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2013-12-20 11:12:20 AM

jaybeezey: Weaver95: This pope is going to be a real challenge for the us evangelical community. He isn't with the program, he's actually highlighting the fraud and hypocrisy endemic to this countries powerful semi-Christian organizations. It's going to make the mega churches look pretty bad. Oh they'll lie and say the pope doesn't matter...but the catholic church is pretty influential and everyone knows it.

I honestly don't know how limbaugh is gonna handle this one. It's a lose/lose situation for him and his prosperity gospel buddies.

You think the pope giving stamps to illegal immigrants in Italy is gonna get Limbaugh's feathers ruffled?

Don't pin all if your hopes on that one.


The only reason you have not seen apoplexy yet, is Rush hasn't had the time to bluster, coming soon.
I put my faith in Rush.
 
2013-12-20 11:12:26 AM

Phinn: HotWingConspiracy: Phinn: Great.  An international calling card and a day pass for the metro.  And some stamps.

What about the other hmm...hmm billion people living in poverty and the other 364 days of the year?

What's your plan for them? Sounds like you have some alternatives.

Reason.  Evidence.  Science.  Freedom.


The Pope is already a Jesuit. Can't get more based in reason, evidence, science, and freedom than that.
 
2013-12-20 11:14:33 AM

Phinn: PickleBarrel: Phinn: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Phinn: Great.  An international calling card and a day pass for the metro.  And some stamps.

What about the other hmm...hmm billion people living in poverty and the other 364 days of the year?

Why should we celebrate a glimmer of light when the rest of the world is darkness?

Because you're wasting time, all while you're failing to uinderstand basic economic mechanisms that cause a nearly infinite multiple of hardship greater than this PR stunt alleviated.

But if time-wasting were the only problem, it would be minor.  There is also the affirmative harm caused by disseminating propaganda for religion, which will only serve the interests of religion, the irrationality of which will keep the world in darkness and lies and therefore misery for yet another generation.

But sure, so long as a few people got some stamps and a Christmas card.  It's all cool.

You reward those who do good by saying "atta boy!" even though it doesn't solve all the problems because it's a start to something better.  To ignore and demean someone who does good because it doesn't solve all the problems will snuff that out.

If your goal is to continue with and contribute to the misery and suffering, Phinn, good job! I'm sure many people are very proud of you, especially the rich and powerful who want it this way.

It's not a start to anything good. It's a PR stunt to promote his brand, which in this case is collectivist flavor of Catholicism (or Catholic flavor of collectivism, I guess).

His organization produces nothing except doctrine and fiction posing as fact. Everything it gives it first takes from productive people, by propagating utter nonsense.

These 2,000 people got a card and some stamps. This stunt in trivial in terms of material benefit, but enormously important in terms of perpetuating the reputation of both religion generally and this man's economic bullshiat in particular, which will perpetuate and exacerbate the systemic causes of poverty and hardship for billions of people.

So, fark him.


i750.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-20 11:15:56 AM

Phinn: PickleBarrel: Phinn: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Phinn: Great.  An international calling card and a day pass for the metro.  And some stamps.

What about the other hmm...hmm billion people living in poverty and the other 364 days of the year?

Why should we celebrate a glimmer of light when the rest of the world is darkness?

Because you're wasting time, all while you're failing to uinderstand basic economic mechanisms that cause a nearly infinite multiple of hardship greater than this PR stunt alleviated.

But if time-wasting were the only problem, it would be minor.  There is also the affirmative harm caused by disseminating propaganda for religion, which will only serve the interests of religion, the irrationality of which will keep the world in darkness and lies and therefore misery for yet another generation.

But sure, so long as a few people got some stamps and a Christmas card.  It's all cool.

You reward those who do good by saying "atta boy!" even though it doesn't solve all the problems because it's a start to something better.  To ignore and demean someone who does good because it doesn't solve all the problems will snuff that out.

If your goal is to continue with and contribute to the misery and suffering, Phinn, good job! I'm sure many people are very proud of you, especially the rich and powerful who want it this way.

It's not a start to anything good. It's a PR stunt to promote his brand, which in this case is collectivist flavor of Catholicism (or Catholic flavor of collectivism, I guess).

His organization produces nothing except doctrine and fiction posing as fact. Everything it gives it first takes from productive people, by propagating utter nonsense.

These 2,000 people got a card and some stamps. This stunt in trivial in terms of material benefit, but enormously important in terms of perpetuating the reputation of both religion generally and this man's economic bullshiat in particular, which will perpetuate and exacerbate the systemic causes of ...


"His organization" is the wild card team in the current Quest For World Domination by Multinational Rich Bastards.
I do think it is one of the very few areas where the 1% has "real" problems getting their ashes hauled.
 
2013-12-20 11:16:56 AM
luidprand:
The Pope is already a Jesuit. Can't get more based in reason, evidence, science, and freedom than that.

Neil DeGrasse Tyson said that if you want to believe that god did it and you're content with that, that's fine but you are useless in the lab.  Perhaps the Jesuits bridge that gap.  Ok God did it, but let's discover how this grand creation really works.
 
2013-12-20 11:16:57 AM

Animatronik: Zeb Hesselgresser: RTFA

Well, somebody is trolling, but it ain't the Pope.

Yup. Conservatives, even the crazy ones, love immigrants who are here legally


LOL

 and would approve of an act of charity for illegal ones too.

MEGA LOL
 
2013-12-20 11:19:00 AM

A Cave Geek: ladodger34: I'm not Catholic, but my wife and kids are. I've been to mass a bunch more than I ever planned on.

I will say that I've been fairly impressed with the priests that I've spoken with. It's all personal bias, but they have seemed to be more worldly than their protestant counterparts.

I have a similar experience.  My fiance is catholic.  I have been much more impressed with them than I expected.  Evangelicals are giving Christianity a bad name

// born and raised Methodist


Did you see the news earlier about the United Methodist Church defrocking a pastor who performed the same-sex marriage ceremony of his son?
 
2013-12-20 11:19:18 AM
I'm not a christian and I dislike the Catholic Church however I do admire this man, the first Pope to tell it like it is and hold the christians feet to the fire of their beliefs.
 
2013-12-20 11:20:01 AM

snocone: jaybeezey: Weaver95: This pope is going to be a real challenge for the us evangelical community. He isn't with the program, he's actually highlighting the fraud and hypocrisy endemic to this countries powerful semi-Christian organizations. It's going to make the mega churches look pretty bad. Oh they'll lie and say the pope doesn't matter...but the catholic church is pretty influential and everyone knows it.

I honestly don't know how limbaugh is gonna handle this one. It's a lose/lose situation for him and his prosperity gospel buddies.

You think the pope giving stamps to illegal immigrants in Italy is gonna get Limbaugh's feathers ruffled?

Don't pin all if your hopes on that one.

The only reason you have not seen apoplexy yet, is Rush hasn't had the time to bluster, coming soon.
I put my faith in Rush.


He won't dwell on it. Too many Catholics listen to his BS, and there are ALWAYS plenty of faux-outrages out there to talk about instead. Why, did you hear about the God-fearing, Christian business man who was fired from his top-rated reality show simply for talking about his religious beliefs?
 
2013-12-20 11:20:28 AM

mbillips: TheDirtyNacho: The other day I was in a waiting room and on the TV was the Fox Five, which appeared to be some show where talking heads 'debate' a topic for a few minutes at a time.  My god, it was awful.  Obvious common sense knowledge and facts were ignored, and one guy appeared to have so much plastic surgery that he had a permanent joker smile on his weird face.  Limbaugh et al, follow this same schtick.

The best way to deal with a slab of human ham like that is to ignore it.  I can't imagine going through life listening to it.

I've had to watch Fox & Friends a few times while sitting in a doctor's waiting room. You can feel your brain cells dying.


3.bp.blogspot.com

Where is this man when we need him?
 
2013-12-20 11:20:51 AM
A century ago in upstate N.Y, where I grew up, there were few black folks so the KKK rallied against the Catholics and the Irish.

Pitching into the Pope really ought to help secure the Hispanic vote,
 
2013-12-20 11:21:01 AM

nekom: Ok God did it, but let's discover how this grand creation really works.


This has generally been the position of the RCC, at least for the last 100 or so years.
 
2013-12-20 11:21:34 AM

Pangea: cardex: As an aithiast I like this pope. The first rule in picking a head cheer leader for invisible sky wizards should be don't pick an asshat. Only took the church 2000 ish years to figure it out.

You're a what now?


Aithiasts are a splinter group from the orthodox Athiests.  They are sinners who have wandered from the true Athiest path and are an anathema.

Also, PoFrank gave away calling cards and metro passes, things that are actually relevant and useful, as opposed to, say, giving a starving kid a bible (a picture of which I can't seem to find).
 
2013-12-20 11:25:47 AM
... and I misspelled Atheist on purpose.  Yeah, that's the ticket.
 
2013-12-20 11:26:34 AM

RexTalionis: A Cave Geek: ladodger34: I'm not Catholic, but my wife and kids are. I've been to mass a bunch more than I ever planned on.

I will say that I've been fairly impressed with the priests that I've spoken with. It's all personal bias, but they have seemed to be more worldly than their protestant counterparts.

I have a similar experience.  My fiance is catholic.  I have been much more impressed with them than I expected.  Evangelicals are giving Christianity a bad name

// born and raised Methodist

Did you see the news earlier about the United Methodist Church defrocking a pastor who performed the same-sex marriage ceremony of his son?


No I didn't.  Methodists are a little more tolerant and 'true to the word' than, say Baptists, or Lutherans.  We used to have jokes in my hometown, little side bets about where the Lutheran alter was going to be....they used to move it around monthly. I actually used to be envious of the catholic kids.  They got out of school to go to confirmation classes.

//left the church quite a while ago with a bumper sticker that said "God, save me from your followers"
 
2013-12-20 11:27:42 AM

Phinn: PickleBarrel: Phinn: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Phinn: Great.  An international calling card and a day pass for the metro.  And some stamps.

What about the other hmm...hmm billion people living in poverty and the other 364 days of the year?

Why should we celebrate a glimmer of light when the rest of the world is darkness?

Because you're wasting time, all while you're failing to uinderstand basic economic mechanisms that cause a nearly infinite multiple of hardship greater than this PR stunt alleviated.

But if time-wasting were the only problem, it would be minor.  There is also the affirmative harm caused by disseminating propaganda for religion, which will only serve the interests of religion, the irrationality of which will keep the world in darkness and lies and therefore misery for yet another generation.

But sure, so long as a few people got some stamps and a Christmas card.  It's all cool.

You reward those who do good by saying "atta boy!" even though it doesn't solve all the problems because it's a start to something better.  To ignore and demean someone who does good because it doesn't solve all the problems will snuff that out.

If your goal is to continue with and contribute to the misery and suffering, Phinn, good job! I'm sure many people are very proud of you, especially the rich and powerful who want it this way.

It's not a start to anything good. It's a PR stunt to promote his brand, which in this case is collectivist flavor of Catholicism (or Catholic flavor of collectivism, I guess).

His organization produces nothing except doctrine and fiction posing as fact. Everything it gives it first takes from productive people, by propagating utter nonsense.

These 2,000 people got a card and some stamps. This stunt in trivial in terms of material benefit, but enormously important in terms of perpetuating the reputation of both religion generally and this man's economic bullshiat in particular, which will perpetuate and exacerbate the systemic causes of poverty and hardship for billions of people.

So, fark him.


Wow, what an asshole
 
2013-12-20 11:28:26 AM

yanoosh: I'm not a christian and I dislike the Catholic Church however I do admire this man, the first Pope,

in my short experience, to tell it like it is and hold the christians feet to the fire of their beliefs.

whatca think? better?
 
2013-12-20 11:31:39 AM

snocone: yanoosh: I'm not a christian and I dislike the Catholic Church however I do admire this man, the first Pope, in my short experience, to tell it like it is and hold the christians feet to the fire of their beliefs.

whatca think? better?


You're right I did forget about the Spanish Inqusition.
 
2013-12-20 11:32:41 AM

RexTalionis: A Cave Geek: ladodger34: I'm not Catholic, but my wife and kids are. I've been to mass a bunch more than I ever planned on.

I will say that I've been fairly impressed with the priests that I've spoken with. It's all personal bias, but they have seemed to be more worldly than their protestant counterparts.

I have a similar experience.  My fiance is catholic.  I have been much more impressed with them than I expected.  Evangelicals are giving Christianity a bad name

// born and raised Methodist

Did you see the news earlier about the United Methodist Church defrocking a pastor who performed the same-sex marriage ceremony of his son?


So he was involved in the honeymoon then?

/"defrocked" hehehehe
 
2013-12-20 11:33:11 AM

mbillips: He won't dwell on it. Too many Catholics listen to his BS, and there are ALWAYS plenty of faux-outrages out there to talk about instead.


Do you remember a few weeks ago when the Pope made an anti-consumerism comment that Rush turned into a long rant about how the Pope was anti-capitalist? He made a huge deal about it, even after the Vatican explained that the Pope thought capitalism could be beneficial but that consumerism was where the problems existed. So, I wouldn't put it too far past Rush to misunderstand this as well.
 
2013-12-20 11:33:34 AM

Weaver95: Speaker2Animals: Weaver95: This pope is going to be a real challenge for the us evangelical community. He isn't with the program, he's actually highlighting the fraud and hypocrisy endemic to this countries powerful semi-Christian organizations. It's going to make the mega churches look pretty bad. Oh they'll lie and say the pope doesn't matter...but the catholic church is pretty influential and everyone knows it.

I honestly don't know how limbaugh is gonna handle this one. It's a lose/lose situation for him and his prosperity gospel buddies.

I hope not the same way they "handled" John Paul I.

I think they'll try to point and laugh, then try to quietly redefine the popes comments. When that doesn't work, they'll likely say he isn't the real pope, or just ignore him as much as possible. Thing is, this pope seems like he wants to get in people's faces about the social justice aspects of catholic doctrine. That sort of thing makes robber baron amoral capitalists very uncomfortable. They'd prefer us to accept our role as techno feudal serfs and not get uppity on the whole money issue.


It's a fine line.

They don't want to cause an outright fracture in the now fraying Catholic Protestant alliance that formed after Row V Wade.
 
2013-12-20 11:38:02 AM

Wellon Dowd: My dream dinner party will be attended by me, Pope Francis, Jennifer Lawrence, and the ugliest, most boring guy I can find.


What time would you like me to be there?
 
2013-12-20 11:39:01 AM
The Dono di Maria home was founded by Mother Teresa 25 years ago under Pope John Paul II's blessing...

If this Pope really wanted to demonstrate his support of true compassion, he should start to distance the church from MT. She was nothing but a pious confidence trickster, all about filling the coffers of her organization, offering prayers, not food or medicine to the terminally ill.

I know, I know.  Baby steps.
 
2013-12-20 11:41:28 AM

Phinn: HotWingConspiracy: Phinn: Great.  An international calling card and a day pass for the metro.  And some stamps.

What about the other hmm...hmm billion people living in poverty and the other 364 days of the year?

What's your plan for them? Sounds like you have some alternatives.

Reason.  Evidence.  Science.  Freedom.


I tried it it didn't work for me. Freedom is different things to different people.
 
2013-12-20 11:43:46 AM

Phinn: Reason. Evidence. Science. Freedom.


That's not a plan. That's a cutsey motto along the lines of "THESE COLORS DON'T RUN."
 
2013-12-20 11:43:56 AM
It is pretty sad that this is the first pope in living memory who has paid more than lip service to what Jesus preached. In fact, one of the few Christian leaders of any sort who has done that.
 
2013-12-20 11:45:23 AM

devilEther: Biff_Steel: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Rotating tab of the month: Jennifer Lawrence, George Zimmerman, Pope Francis, etc.

Good idea. Don't forget about that actor dude that died in a car crash. I can't think of his name . . .

Paul Ryan


No, no...it was Scott Walker, wasn't it?
 
2013-12-20 11:51:01 AM

Phinn: Great.  An international calling card and a day pass for the metro.  And some stamps.

What about the other hmm...hmm billion people living in poverty and the other 364 days of the year?


There ya go. I knew someone could find the cloud in the silver lining.

You go right on with your bad self. If he's not helping each and every last needy person on earth helping anyone means nothing

Or you know perhaps he is leading by example.

I help some....you help some...we all help some.

In fact dare I say perhaps the job is too big for one person so he might in fact be saying "WE need to help each other."
 
2013-12-20 11:52:19 AM
Phinn:
His organization produces nothing except doctrine and fiction posing as fact. Everything it gives it first takes from productive people, by propagating utter nonsense.

So...the Catholic Church's humanitarian work totally doesn't count because they use charity.

That's a convenient way to just sweep all of their help and this Pope's anti-capitalist message under the rug.
 
2013-12-20 11:52:53 AM

alice_600: Phinn: HotWingConspiracy: Phinn: Great.  An international calling card and a day pass for the metro.  And some stamps.

What about the other hmm...hmm billion people living in poverty and the other 364 days of the year?

What's your plan for them? Sounds like you have some alternatives.

Reason.  Evidence.  Science.  Freedom.

I tried it it didn't work for me. Freedom is different things to different people.


Indeed.  For some it's just another word for nothing left to lose.
 
2013-12-20 11:55:02 AM
A Christian acting Christ-like and it's international news.
Tells you how sad the planet has become.
 
2013-12-20 11:55:11 AM

devilEther: Biff_Steel: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Rotating tab of the month: Jennifer Lawrence, George Zimmerman, Pope Francis, etc.

Good idea. Don't forget about that actor dude that died in a car crash. I can't think of his name . . .

Paul Ryan


So wait... this is ZOMBIE Paul Ryan making budget deals with the Democrats and being generally more reasonable?  Suddenly it all makes sense...
 
2013-12-20 11:56:22 AM

nekom: luidprand:
The Pope is already a Jesuit. Can't get more based in reason, evidence, science, and freedom than that.

Neil DeGrasse Tyson said that if you want to believe that god did it and you're content with that, that's fine but you are useless in the lab.  Perhaps the Jesuits bridge that gap.  Ok God did it, but let's discover how this grand creation really works.


No, once they say "god did it," their useless in the lab.  You can't start with the conclusion.
 
2013-12-20 11:56:36 AM

Barbecue Bob: A Christian acting Christ-like and it's international news.
Tells you how sad the planet has become.


Become? It's been like this since humans achieved sentience.
 
2013-12-20 11:56:36 AM
Pope Francis: separating the wheat from the chaff.
 
2013-12-20 11:57:05 AM
I never listen to Rush. Does he tie his opinions back to a Christian faith the way Mrs. Herpy Derpy Palin does?
 
2013-12-20 11:58:13 AM

Inflatable Rhetoric: nekom: luidprand:
The Pope is already a Jesuit. Can't get more based in reason, evidence, science, and freedom than that.

Neil DeGrasse Tyson said that if you want to believe that god did it and you're content with that, that's fine but you are useless in the lab.  Perhaps the Jesuits bridge that gap.  Ok God did it, but let's discover how this grand creation really works.

No, once they say "god did it," theirthere useless in the lab.  You can't start with the conclusion.


Sorry, pet peeve.
 
2013-12-20 11:58:27 AM

Inflatable Rhetoric: nekom: luidprand:
The Pope is already a Jesuit. Can't get more based in reason, evidence, science, and freedom than that.

Neil DeGrasse Tyson said that if you want to believe that god did it and you're content with that, that's fine but you are useless in the lab.  Perhaps the Jesuits bridge that gap.  Ok God did it, but let's discover how this grand creation really works.

No, once they say "god did it," their useless in the lab.  You can't start with the conclusion.


oops, they're useless in the lab.
 
2013-12-20 12:01:10 PM

pkellmey: mbillips: He won't dwell on it. Too many Catholics listen to his BS, and there are ALWAYS plenty of faux-outrages out there to talk about instead.

Do you remember a few weeks ago when the Pope made an anti-consumerism comment that Rush turned into a long rant about how the Pope was anti-capitalist? He made a huge deal about it, even after the Vatican explained that the Pope thought capitalism could be beneficial but that consumerism was where the problems existed. So, I wouldn't put it too far past Rush to misunderstand this as well.



"Rats and roaches live by competition under the laws of supply and demand; it is the privilege of human beings to live under the laws of justice and mercy."  ― Wendell Berry
 
2013-12-20 12:01:32 PM

Inflatable Rhetoric: Inflatable Rhetoric: nekom: luidprand:
The Pope is already a Jesuit. Can't get more based in reason, evidence, science, and freedom than that.

Neil DeGrasse Tyson said that if you want to believe that god did it and you're content with that, that's fine but you are useless in the lab.  Perhaps the Jesuits bridge that gap.  Ok God did it, but let's discover how this grand creation really works.

No, once they say "god did it," their useless in the lab.  You can't start with the conclusion.

oops, they're useless in the lab.


And a few other places, like say, government.
 
2013-12-20 12:01:54 PM

Felgraf: Phinn: Reason. Evidence. Science. Freedom.

That's not a plan. That's a cutsey motto along the lines of "THESE COLORS DON'T RUN."


Or Mitt Romney's/Paul Ryan's "We'll make up for the loss of tax revenue by closing tax loopholes!" 'plan'.
 
2013-12-20 12:04:30 PM

Inflatable Rhetoric: nekom: luidprand:
The Pope is already a Jesuit. Can't get more based in reason, evidence, science, and freedom than that.

Neil DeGrasse Tyson said that if you want to believe that god did it and you're content with that, that's fine but you are useless in the lab.  Perhaps the Jesuits bridge that gap.  Ok God did it, but let's discover how this grand creation really works.

No, once they say "god did it," their useless in the lab.  You can't start with the conclusion.


Science often starts with the conclusion. They call it the hypothesis. It's derived from the vast resources of human imagination. Any serious scientist would agree.
http://www.vaticanobservatory.org/
 
2013-12-20 12:04:57 PM
Phinn:


It's not a start to anything good. It's a PR stunt to promote his brand, which in this case is collectivist flavor of Catholicism (or Catholic flavor of collectivism, I guess).

His organization produces nothing except doctrine and fiction posing as fact. Everything it gives it first takes from productive people, by propagating utter nonsense.

These 2,000 people got a card and some stamps. This stunt in trivial in terms of material benefit, but enormously important in terms of perpetuating the reputation of both religion generally and this man's economic bullshiat in particular, which will perpetuate and exacerbate the systemic causes of poverty and hardship for billions of people.

So, fark him.


www.studiobriefing.net

"There's no pleasing some people."

"That's just what Jesus said, sir!"
 
2013-12-20 12:06:52 PM

snocone: Inflatable Rhetoric: Inflatable Rhetoric: nekom: luidprand:
The Pope is already a Jesuit. Can't get more based in reason, evidence, science, and freedom than that.

Neil DeGrasse Tyson said that if you want to believe that god did it and you're content with that, that's fine but you are useless in the lab.  Perhaps the Jesuits bridge that gap.  Ok God did it, but let's discover how this grand creation really works.

No, once they say "god did it," their useless in the lab.  You can't start with the conclusion.

oops, they're useless in the lab.

And a few other places, like say, government.


And every other place there is.
 
2013-12-20 12:07:06 PM
Apparently, this Pope is advocating Christianity.
 
2013-12-20 12:07:13 PM

Inflatable Rhetoric: Inflatable Rhetoric: nekom: luidprand:
The Pope is already a Jesuit. Can't get more based in reason, evidence, science, and freedom than that.

Neil DeGrasse Tyson said that if you want to believe that god did it and you're content with that, that's fine but you are useless in the lab.  Perhaps the Jesuits bridge that gap.  Ok God did it, but let's discover how this grand creation really works.

No, once they say "god did it," their useless in the lab.  You can't start with the conclusion.

oops, they're useless in the lab.


ARe you suggesting that any religious or spiritual person is useless as a researcher?
 
2013-12-20 12:07:55 PM

Felgraf: Phinn: Reason. Evidence. Science. Freedom.

That's not a plan. That's a cutsey motto along the lines of "THESE COLORS DON'T RUN."


I have a detailed plan, too. I was just trying to boil it down to the essentials to answer someone's question.

If the Discordians handed out free apples and pizza coupons, would they get the cocoa butter handjob treatment on Fark? Or is that sort of praise reserved for religions headed by socialists who wear dresses?
 
2013-12-20 12:10:45 PM

Felgraf: Inflatable Rhetoric: Inflatable Rhetoric: nekom: luidprand:
The Pope is already a Jesuit. Can't get more based in reason, evidence, science, and freedom than that.

Neil DeGrasse Tyson said that if you want to believe that god did it and you're content with that, that's fine but you are useless in the lab.  Perhaps the Jesuits bridge that gap.  Ok God did it, but let's discover how this grand creation really works.

No, once they say "god did it," their useless in the lab.  You can't start with the conclusion.

oops, they're useless in the lab.

ARe you suggesting that any religious or spiritual person is useless as a researcher?


The suggestion is that someone who is satisfied with the answer 'A Wizard God Did It' is useless. If you're satisfied with the answer, you feel no compulsion to prove or disprove it, and therefore will not be a good scientist.
 
2013-12-20 12:12:04 PM

Phinn: Felgraf: Phinn: Reason. Evidence. Science. Freedom.

That's not a plan. That's a cutsey motto along the lines of "THESE COLORS DON'T RUN."

I have a detailed plan, too. I was just trying to boil it down to the essentials to answer someone's question.

If the Discordians handed out free apples and pizza coupons, would they get the cocoa butter handjob treatment on Fark? Or is that sort of praise reserved for religions headed by socialists who wear dresses?


Dunno. Are the apples gold-colored?

(And yes, if they did it on a large enough scale, I suspect they'd get praise on Fark.)

This isn't just about religion for you though, is it? It's about his economic views. Weird, since pure capitalism is kind of crap about funding basic research...
 
2013-12-20 12:12:05 PM
Odd, I didn't notice the words "illegal" or "undocumented" anywhere in that story.
 
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