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2013-12-20 10:22:00 AM  
If you wake up some morning and find yourself politically right of a Catholic Pope, you are most certainly doing it wrong.
Take a hint.
 
2013-12-20 10:22:09 AM  
My dream dinner party will be attended by me, Pope Francis, Jennifer Lawrence, and the ugliest, most boring guy I can find.
 
2013-12-20 10:22:38 AM  
I was raised catholic, and I have disliked the church since I was old enough to actually pay attention to the sermons. I've seen rigid adherence to church doctrine poison family members against each other.

Still, I can't help but grudgingly admire Francis. It isn't going to get me back into the church, that ship has sailed long ago, but it looks like he is shaking things up and that has to be a good thing.
 
2013-12-20 10:24:17 AM  

Biff_Steel: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Rotating tab of the month: Jennifer Lawrence, George Zimmerman, Pope Francis, etc.

Good idea. Don't forget about that actor dude that died in a car crash. I can't think of his name . . .


Paul Ryan
 
2013-12-20 10:24:50 AM  
GO! POPE! GO!
 
2013-12-20 10:24:54 AM  

2wolves: It's not always about the U.S.. Really it isn't. That sort of arrogance is known to irk a large number of people.


Those people don't matter.
 
2013-12-20 10:24:56 AM  

Phinn: HotWingConspiracy: Phinn: Great.  An international calling card and a day pass for the metro.  And some stamps.

What about the other hmm...hmm billion people living in poverty and the other 364 days of the year?

What's your plan for them? Sounds like you have some alternatives.

Reason.  Evidence.  Science.  Freedom.


And you'd foster this amongst a billion poor people spread out around the world via what means?

BTW, seems the goal was giving them things to help them stay in touch with family. Sounds fairly successful in that regard.
 
2013-12-20 10:25:51 AM  

wildcardjack: This pope is merely the hottest marketer the Catholic church has had in centuries. Yes, it's all marketing. Washing the feet of the poor, carrying a populist message, not spouting homophobia (in an era when acceptance is widespread); everything is attention whorish and intended to fill pew seats.


Agreed.
But the Christian Taliban has placed itself about a mile to the right of this Pope.
And, naturally, they have not noticed nor seem to care.
We need a lot more whores getting the bright light of attention and see how it shakes.
 
2013-12-20 10:26:29 AM  

Phinn: HotWingConspiracy: Phinn: Great.  An international calling card and a day pass for the metro.  And some stamps.

What about the other hmm...hmm billion people living in poverty and the other 364 days of the year?

What's your plan for them? Sounds like you have some alternatives.

Reason.  Evidence.  Science.  Freedom.


which one of those words do you eat?
 
2013-12-20 10:27:18 AM  

wildcardjack: This pope is merely the hottest marketer the Catholic church has had in centuries. Yes, it's all marketing. Washing the feet of the poor, carrying a populist message, not spouting homophobia (in an era when acceptance is widespread); everything is attention whorish and intended to fill pew seats.


at least in the churches i attend in california, social justice and tolerance are a constant message at mass... and this hasnt changed much between palpatine & francis.
 
2013-12-20 10:27:25 AM  

Wellon Dowd: My dream dinner party will be attended by me, Pope Francis, Jennifer Lawrence, and the ugliest, most boring guy I can find.


I'll email you my address, so you can send the invitation.
 
2013-12-20 10:27:35 AM  

Phinn: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Phinn: Great.  An international calling card and a day pass for the metro.  And some stamps.

What about the other hmm...hmm billion people living in poverty and the other 364 days of the year?

Why should we celebrate a glimmer of light when the rest of the world is darkness?

Because you're wasting time, all while you're failing to uinderstand basic economic mechanisms that cause a nearly infinite multiple of hardship greater than this PR stunt alleviated.

But if time-wasting were the only problem, it would be minor.  There is also the affirmative harm caused by disseminating propaganda for religion, which will only serve the interests of religion, the irrationality of which will keep the world in darkness and lies and therefore misery for yet another generation.

But sure, so long as a few people got some stamps and a Christmas card.  It's all cool.


Your world sounds bleak. Have you tried lighting a candle yourself?
 
2013-12-20 10:27:46 AM  

wildcardjack: This pope is merely the hottest marketer the Catholic church has had in centuries. Yes, it's all marketing. Washing the feet of the poor, carrying a populist message, not spouting homophobia (in an era when acceptance is widespread); everything is attention whorish and intended to fill pew seats.


Variant of the No True Scotsman? He'll probably recant everything now that you've seen through his clever ruse.

img.youtube.com
 
2013-12-20 10:28:28 AM  
I do not inthk he is trolling them yet.
Now if someone else they hate more and have been decrying as evil incarnite for years came out as vocally opposed to him in such a way that they would have to agree with the person thay claim is evil, and align themselves with it, or go with the pope on this one, and abandon their core tennents. that would be trolling.
 
2013-12-20 10:28:42 AM  

robertus: [lh6.googleusercontent.com image 522x800]
Good


img.fark.net
 
2013-12-20 10:29:35 AM  
As an aithiast I like this pope. The first rule in picking a head cheer leader for invisible sky wizards should be don't pick an asshat. Only took the church 2000 ish years to figure it out.
 
2013-12-20 10:31:00 AM  
Mention Rush or Sarah.............

Instant Green Light.

/Meh.
//What.
///Ever.
 
2013-12-20 10:31:30 AM  

cardex: As an aithiast I like this pope. The first rule in picking a head cheer leader for invisible sky wizards should be don't pick an asshat. Only took the church 2000 ish years to figure it out.


You're a what now?
 
gja
2013-12-20 10:31:36 AM  

miniflea: I was raised catholic, and I have disliked the church since I was old enough to actually pay attention to the sermons. I've seen rigid adherence to church doctrine poison family members against each other.

Still, I can't help but grudgingly admire Francis. It isn't going to get me back into the church, that ship has sailed long ago, but it looks like he is shaking things up and that has to be a good thing.


Funny, I don't remember running into you on this boat we both seem to be in.

/i agree wholeheartedly and have had much the same experience
 
2013-12-20 10:31:44 AM  

Nabb1: 2wolves: It's not always about the U.S.. Really it isn't. That sort of arrogance is known to irk a large number of people.

Very much this. He is setting an example for the faithful around the world as well as trying to display compassion for humanity to inspire believers and non-believers alike. It is foolish to view this myopically in terms of the US and our own internal politics.


I know you're not new here so why the  ?!?!... . EVERYTHING is filtered through internal American viewpoints and politics here.
 
2013-12-20 10:32:11 AM  

cardex: As an aithiast



Is that someone who doesn't believe in spellcheck?
 
2013-12-20 10:32:59 AM  

Wellon Dowd: My dream dinner party will be attended by me, Pope Francis, Jennifer Lawrence, and the ugliest, most boring guy I can find.


That's a mean thing to do to Jennifer Lawrence.
 
2013-12-20 10:33:31 AM  
Almost thou makest me a Catholic, Francis.
 
2013-12-20 10:35:15 AM  

devilEther: Biff_Steel: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Rotating tab of the month: Jennifer Lawrence, George Zimmerman, Pope Francis, etc.

Good idea. Don't forget about that actor dude that died in a car crash. I can't think of his name . . .

Paul Ryan


RAND PAUL
 
2013-12-20 10:36:25 AM  

MayoSlather: USA Jesus wouldn't give things to immigrants, he would take things away to inspire them to work harder. That's how it works here, you work hard in a servile role when you're a minority, and as a reward you're reincarnated as a White person to work hard at a desk job. Eventually you'll be reincarnated as a rich white republican and you don't have work hard at all, and you get to chastise the masses for wanting more and not working hard enough.


Samsara, 'Murican style.

/the final stage is, of course, derpvana
 
2013-12-20 10:37:11 AM  
Do they at least speak English?  If not, they should get the hell out of the Holy See!
 
2013-12-20 10:38:45 AM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-12-20 10:39:16 AM  

Apos: [chirho.me image 850x579]

/Oblig


I freaking love that photo.  That's one cool dude.
 
2013-12-20 10:40:28 AM  

theorellior: Wellon Dowd: My dream dinner party will be attended by me, Pope Francis, Jennifer Lawrence, and the ugliest, most boring guy I can find.

That's a mean thing to do to Jennifer Lawrence.


I dunno, she'd probably like the chance to meet Frankie the Pope.
 
2013-12-20 10:40:38 AM  

A Cave Geek: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 650x650]


Would it be appropriate to say the pope has more money than god?
 
2013-12-20 10:40:52 AM  
The article doesn't say where they're immigrants from.

That will determine whether Rush's outrage will be because they're Marxists or because they're Muslims or because they're Sluts.

If it's the DR, he may be OK with it.
 
2013-12-20 10:44:15 AM  
The other day I was in a waiting room and on the TV was the Fox Five, which appeared to be some show where talking heads 'debate' a topic for a few minutes at a time.  My god, it was awful.  Obvious common sense knowledge and facts were ignored, and one guy appeared to have so much plastic surgery that he had a permanent joker smile on his weird face.  Limbaugh et al, follow this same schtick.

The best way to deal with a slab of human ham like that is to ignore it.  I can't imagine going through life listening to it.
 
2013-12-20 10:44:53 AM  

phillydrifter: A Cave Geek: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 650x650]

Would it be appropriate to say the pope has more money than god?


You don't need a dime to treat others in a Christ-like manner.
 
2013-12-20 10:45:42 AM  

Phinn: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Phinn: Great.  An international calling card and a day pass for the metro.  And some stamps.

What about the other hmm...hmm billion people living in poverty and the other 364 days of the year?

Why should we celebrate a glimmer of light when the rest of the world is darkness?

Because you're wasting time, all while you're failing to uinderstand basic economic mechanisms that cause a nearly infinite multiple of hardship greater than this PR stunt alleviated.

But if time-wasting were the only problem, it would be minor.  There is also the affirmative harm caused by disseminating propaganda for religion, which will only serve the interests of religion, the irrationality of which will keep the world in darkness and lies and therefore misery for yet another generation.

But sure, so long as a few people got some stamps and a Christmas card.  It's all cool.


You reward those who do good by saying "atta boy!" even though it doesn't solve all the problems because it's a start to something better.  To ignore and demean someone who does good because it doesn't solve all the problems will snuff that out.

If your goal is to continue with and contribute to the misery and suffering, Phinn, good job! I'm sure many people are very proud of you, especially the rich and powerful who want it this way.
 
2013-12-20 10:47:24 AM  

Pangea: wildcardjack: This pope is merely the hottest marketer the Catholic church has had in centuries. Yes, it's all marketing. Washing the feet of the poor, carrying a populist message, not spouting homophobia (in an era when acceptance is widespread); everything is attention whorish and intended to fill pew seats.

Variant of the No True Scotsman? He'll probably recant everything now that you've seen through his clever ruse.

[img.youtube.com image 480x360]


Oh, he's the Truest Scotsman. Sheep farker to the end.

/And he eats his oatmeal without sugar.
 
2013-12-20 10:47:32 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: RTFA

Well, somebody is trolling, but it ain't the Pope.


Yup. Conservatives, even the crazy ones, love immigrants who are here legally and would approve of an act of charity for illegal ones too.

What they don't like is politically motivated incentives like college tuition for illegal aliens and lack of enforcement of immigration law. that are directed at getting more of the Latino vote.

If Pope Francis spends money on lobbying for these things then subtroll may have a point.
 
2013-12-20 10:49:56 AM  

Weaver95: This pope is going to be a real challenge for the us evangelical community. He isn't with the program, he's actually highlighting the fraud and hypocrisy endemic to this countries powerful semi-Christian organizations. It's going to make the mega churches look pretty bad. Oh they'll lie and say the pope doesn't matter...but the catholic church is pretty influential and everyone knows it.

I honestly don't know how limbaugh is gonna handle this one. It's a lose/lose situation for him and his prosperity gospel buddies.


I propose they go back to hating Catholics as idol-worshiping pagans. The main reason evangelicals and conservative Catholics started buddying up politically and giving us presents like Reagan and George W was their shared hatred of legal abortion. Prior to that, Southern Bible-thumpers lumped Catholics in with Jews, Hindus and Muslims as part of the great parade of the Hell-bound. Here's to Francis sticking a big fat wedge into that coalition.
 
2013-12-20 10:50:23 AM  

Weaver95: This pope is going to be a real challenge for the us evangelical community. He isn't with the program, he's actually highlighting the fraud and hypocrisy endemic to this countries powerful semi-Christian organizations. It's going to make the mega churches look pretty bad. Oh they'll lie and say the pope doesn't matter...but the catholic church is pretty influential and everyone knows it.

I honestly don't know how limbaugh is gonna handle this one. It's a lose/lose situation for him and his prosperity gospel buddies.


North American evangelicals will just go back to burning crosses in front of the homes of Catholics, like God intended.
 
2013-12-20 10:51:16 AM  

WalMartian: phillydrifter: A Cave Geek: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 650x650]

Would it be appropriate to say the pope has more money than god?

You don't need a dime to treat others in a Christ-like manner.


But you do to buy them international pre-paid phone cards.
 
2013-12-20 10:51:19 AM  

WalMartian: phillydrifter: A Cave Geek: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 650x650]

Would it be appropriate to say the pope has more money than god?

You don't need a dime to treat others in a Christ-like manner.


More to the point, he is not enjoying any benefit from all that money. He lives in a simple apartment, eschewing the papal palace. That isn't marketing, it's a way of life.
 
2013-12-20 10:51:54 AM  

MrBallou: The article doesn't say where they're immigrants from.

That will determine whether Rush's outrage will be because they're Marxists or because they're Muslims or because they're Sluts.

If it's the DR, he may be OK with it.


It's Italy, so they're probably Albanian or African.
 
2013-12-20 10:53:50 AM  

TheDirtyNacho: The other day I was in a waiting room and on the TV was the Fox Five, which appeared to be some show where talking heads 'debate' a topic for a few minutes at a time.  My god, it was awful.  Obvious common sense knowledge and facts were ignored, and one guy appeared to have so much plastic surgery that he had a permanent joker smile on his weird face.  Limbaugh et al, follow this same schtick.

The best way to deal with a slab of human ham like that is to ignore it.  I can't imagine going through life listening to it.


I've had to watch Fox & Friends a few times while sitting in a doctor's waiting room. You can feel your brain cells dying.
 
2013-12-20 10:56:05 AM  
I'm not Catholic, but my wife and kids are. I've been to mass a bunch more than I ever planned on.

I will say that I've been fairly impressed with the priests that I've spoken with. It's all personal bias, but they have seemed to be more worldly than their protestant counterparts.
 
2013-12-20 10:59:48 AM  
What the.. is this backward delusion month or are there an inordinate number of popish fanbois infesting fark?

..or is this some sinister attempt by the Vatican't to raise the dope's profile?
 
2013-12-20 11:00:48 AM  

Mugato: I have no love for Rush or Palin but the Pope might a little more cred if he you know, didn't have his own country.



You might a little more cred, if, you know, could form a sentence
 
2013-12-20 11:02:16 AM  
This is classy warfare.

/how many divisions does Rush have?
 
2013-12-20 11:02:17 AM  

PickleBarrel: Phinn: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Phinn: Great.  An international calling card and a day pass for the metro.  And some stamps.

What about the other hmm...hmm billion people living in poverty and the other 364 days of the year?

Why should we celebrate a glimmer of light when the rest of the world is darkness?

Because you're wasting time, all while you're failing to uinderstand basic economic mechanisms that cause a nearly infinite multiple of hardship greater than this PR stunt alleviated.

But if time-wasting were the only problem, it would be minor.  There is also the affirmative harm caused by disseminating propaganda for religion, which will only serve the interests of religion, the irrationality of which will keep the world in darkness and lies and therefore misery for yet another generation.

But sure, so long as a few people got some stamps and a Christmas card.  It's all cool.

You reward those who do good by saying "atta boy!" even though it doesn't solve all the problems because it's a start to something better.  To ignore and demean someone who does good because it doesn't solve all the problems will snuff that out.

If your goal is to continue with and contribute to the misery and suffering, Phinn, good job! I'm sure many people are very proud of you, especially the rich and powerful who want it this way.


It's not a start to anything good. It's a PR stunt to promote his brand, which in this case is collectivist flavor of Catholicism (or Catholic flavor of collectivism, I guess).

His organization produces nothing except doctrine and fiction posing as fact. Everything it gives it first takes from productive people, by propagating utter nonsense.

These 2,000 people got a card and some stamps. This stunt in trivial in terms of material benefit, but enormously important in terms of perpetuating the reputation of both religion generally and this man's economic bullshiat in particular, which will perpetuate and exacerbate the systemic causes of poverty and hardship for billions of people.

So, fark him.
 
2013-12-20 11:05:34 AM  

Weaver95: This pope is going to be a real challenge for the us evangelical community. He isn't with the program, he's actually highlighting the fraud and hypocrisy endemic to this countries powerful semi-Christian organizations. It's going to make the mega churches look pretty bad. Oh they'll lie and say the pope doesn't matter...but the catholic church is pretty influential and everyone knows it.

I honestly don't know how limbaugh is gonna handle this one. It's a lose/lose situation for him and his prosperity gospel buddies.


They have already started since the comments a couple weeks ago regarding money and capitalism.  They have tried to marginalize this Pope already and I think I even heard one of the Fox talking heads wax poetic about the reign of Pope Nazi I (the lowest common demoninators I work with leave FauxNews on in the lunch room 24/7).  The comment basically was that this Pope is only making these comments to distract from the problems the church has - I assume he was referring the sexual abuse issues that the same network ignored for years.  The jist of the converstaion was that this Pope is a marketing guy and not doing this for the 'right' reasons.

This is going to be a real issue for people who have heard, for years, the GOP talk about how they are the party of religion and that the Dem's are heathens with their abortion and homosexual marriage.  This Pope has tried to diffuse both issues with comments that, while he thinks they are a sin, the Church should not spend so much time focusing on them.  If the GOP doesn't focus on them and people start to look at their real politics, they are in more trouble than I thought.

If I didn't know better, I would say this Pope watches FauxNews and reads the website to tailor his messages specifically to attack what the empty suits over there say.
 
2013-12-20 11:07:50 AM  

ladodger34: I'm not Catholic, but my wife and kids are. I've been to mass a bunch more than I ever planned on.

I will say that I've been fairly impressed with the priests that I've spoken with. It's all personal bias, but they have seemed to be more worldly than their protestant counterparts.


I have a similar experience.  My fiance is catholic.  I have been much more impressed with them than I expected.  Evangelicals are giving Christianity a bad name

// born and raised Methodist
 
2013-12-20 11:08:28 AM  

Weaver95: This pope is going to be a real challenge for the us evangelical community. He isn't with the program, he's actually highlighting the fraud and hypocrisy endemic to this countries powerful semi-Christian organizations. It's going to make the mega churches look pretty bad. Oh they'll lie and say the pope doesn't matter...but the catholic church is pretty influential and everyone knows it.

I honestly don't know how limbaugh is gonna handle this one. It's a lose/lose situation for him and his prosperity gospel buddies.


You think the pope giving stamps to illegal immigrants in Italy is gonna get Limbaugh's feathers ruffled?

Don't pin all if your hopes on that one.
 
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