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(Herald News)   Man comes home to find a burglar ransacking the place and, well, the burglar's mugshot speaks for itself. Tag is for the homeowner   (heraldnews.com) divider line 121
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2013-12-20 08:48:50 AM
He turned him into Soup For Sluts?! Nice pic!
 
2013-12-20 09:05:35 AM
 
2013-12-20 09:12:43 AM
Opposing Views: The Smegma of Online News
 
2013-12-20 09:19:07 AM
What mugshot?
 
2013-12-20 09:22:32 AM

dmegin: The real story http://www.heraldnews.com/newsnow/x140442098/Cops-Tiverton-homeowner- s ubdued-burglar


Thanks for the link. I hate Opposing Views.
 
2013-12-20 09:22:56 AM
That's quite a mugshot. More of a jugshot, really.

www.opposingviews.com
 
2013-12-20 09:23:10 AM
What he meant was: "Look at this mugshot but do your best to find the link to the actual story that contains the mugshot".
 
2013-12-20 09:23:10 AM

Mr. Fuzzypaws: What mugshot?


I tried temporarily unblocking no less than seven different domains in NoScript and still have yet to see a mugshot.
 
2013-12-20 09:26:26 AM
*not sure if serious*

Mugshot is showing up in the "article" just fine for me.
 
2013-12-20 09:26:41 AM
Wow! Looks like there are a lot of stairs in that guys house.
Nice clevage too.
 
2013-12-20 09:27:57 AM
He subdued the shiat out of him.
 
2013-12-20 09:28:00 AM
LOL, and mugshot worked here just fine. IE11
 
2013-12-20 09:28:19 AM
Well, he does look subdued.
 
2013-12-20 09:30:23 AM

Mr. Fuzzypaws: What mugshot?


The mugshot is in The Herald News, the actual local newspaper.  Opposing Views linked to it in their article, after plagiarizing what they read in The Herald News.  I'm not joking about the plagiarizing bit, read both articles.  Subby knew the Herald News article was the better and primary source but Opposing Views pretty clearly has a financial deal with Fark.com so in an attempt to get a greenlight, subby linked to the plagiarized version of it.

News is turning to shiat, Opposing Views a poster child for why.  Getting this story took effort.  Stealing it took probably 10 seconds.  That's what's going to run actual news out of business.
 
2013-12-20 09:32:00 AM
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2013-12-20 09:32:15 AM
Huh. No problems on the mobile version. I looked at both versions of the story, and no real difference in content. I expected an entirely different account of the events from "the real story", and left disappointed.

Sucks about the owner's broken window.

Is it "stand your ground", castle law, etc if the suspect is trying to flee your property?
 
2013-12-20 09:33:18 AM

dmegin: The real story http://www.heraldnews.com/newsnow/x140442098/Cops-Tiverton-homeowner- s ubdued-burglar


This. Do the folks at Opposing Views have naked pictures of the last Fark office party or something? If the headline is about the mugshot, the link should go the article with the farking mugshot, not OP's text only summary.
 
2013-12-20 09:35:30 AM
Subby is a dumbshiat. Link to the article with the farking picture you dumbass.
 
2013-12-20 09:38:48 AM
This happened in MA?  I'm surprised the homeowner wasn't arrested for A&B and false imprisonment/kidnapping.

/Seriously, I'm surprised that didn't happen.
 
2013-12-20 09:39:04 AM

focusthis: Huh. No problems on the mobile version. I looked at both versions of the story, and no real difference in content. I expected an entirely different account of the events from "the real story", and left disappointed.

Sucks about the owner's broken window.

Is it "stand your ground", castle law, etc if the suspect is trying to flee your property?


Only if they make it outside. And if that happens you just drag them back inside.
 
2013-12-20 09:40:02 AM

Callous: This happened in MA?  I'm surprised the homeowner wasn't arrested for A&B and false imprisonment/kidnapping.

/Seriously, I'm surprised that didn't happen.


Rhode island
 
2013-12-20 09:43:02 AM

Callous: This happened in MA?


....know how I know you didn't read the article?
 
2013-12-20 09:43:22 AM
It's "heroic" to defend your own stuff now?
 
2013-12-20 09:45:16 AM
lennavan: News is turning to shiat, Opposing Views a poster child for why.  Getting this story took effort.  Stealing it took probably 10 seconds.  That's what's going to run actual news out of business.

No, news is turning to shiat because nobody wants to pay for it anymore.  But God forbid the free news article have a grammatical error or an advertisment, or the Fark hordes will excoriate it.
 
2013-12-20 09:45:38 AM

CheatCommando: This. Do the folks at Opposing Views have naked pictures of the last Fark office party or something? If the headline is about the mugshot, the link should go the article with the farking mugshot, not OP's text only summary.


Uhm... the Opposing Views article (and I use that term loosely) has a picture of the mugshot. It's identical to the one in the story they plagiarized from.
 
2013-12-20 09:47:01 AM
I keep a few hand made baseball bats around the house in strategic areas for just such an occasion... i'll go for the knees though...
 
2013-12-20 09:47:14 AM
The homeowner should be charged with assault.  His life was not in danger.  No property is worth physical harm or endangering someones life.  He should have backed off to a safe distance and called the police.  He had no right to take the law into his own hand
 
2013-12-20 09:47:30 AM

thurstonxhowell: It's "heroic" to defend your own stuff now?


Pretty much.  Within his rights to defend his stuff?  I suppose so.  A hero for between a scrawny kid to a bloody pulp for trying to take his stuff?  I'm not quite prepared to go that direction.
 
2013-12-20 09:50:39 AM

thurstonxhowell: It's "heroic" to defend your own stuff now?


So what you are saying is that we dont need another hero?
 
2013-12-20 09:51:41 AM
sigh
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2013-12-20 09:51:48 AM

MycroftHolmes: The homeowner should be charged with assault.  His life was not in danger.  No property is worth physical harm or endangering someones life.  He should have backed off to a safe distance and called the police.  He had no right to take the law into his own hand


That's ludicrous.

Leaving aside that most jurisdictions have laws specifically allowing you to protect your home (so-called castle laws), the idea that you have a  duty to retreat from your home and leave a burglar in there is just insane.

The burglar is fortunate that the homeowner didn't kill him.  Literally.  Many jurisdictions recognize that the right to protect your home is so special and sacrosanct that killing the invader is justified so long as there's no evidence that the invader was actively trying to leave the home when the homeowner captured him.
 
2013-12-20 09:52:51 AM

Nutsac_Jim: thurstonxhowell: It's "heroic" to defend your own stuff now?

So what you are saying is that we dont need another hero?



It looks like that kid was in the Thunderdome.
 
2013-12-20 09:54:53 AM

lexnaturalis: CheatCommando: This. Do the folks at Opposing Views have naked pictures of the last Fark office party or something? If the headline is about the mugshot, the link should go the article with the farking mugshot, not OP's text only summary.

Uhm... the Opposing Views article (and I use that term loosely) has a picture of the mugshot. It's identical to the one in the story they plagiarized from.


Hmm. Not in my copy of Firefox. Maybe AdBlock is eating it and not for the real article.
 
2013-12-20 09:55:34 AM

mattharvest: MycroftHolmes: The homeowner should be charged with assault.  His life was not in danger.  No property is worth physical harm or endangering someones life.  He should have backed off to a safe distance and called the police.  He had no right to take the law into his own hand

That's ludicrous.

Leaving aside that most jurisdictions have laws specifically allowing you to protect your home (so-called castle laws), the idea that you have a  duty to retreat from your home and leave a burglar in there is just insane.

The burglar is fortunate that the homeowner didn't kill him.  Literally.  Many jurisdictions recognize that the right to protect your home is so special and sacrosanct that killing the invader is justified so long as there's no evidence that the invader was actively trying to leave the home when the homeowner captured him.


Actually, I think I just proved Poe's law.  I was trying to be over the top sarcastic, but it just doesn't look any different than a lot of the comments I see in these threads.
 
2013-12-20 09:55:49 AM
I would actually like to know why this guy decided to smash a window and take someone else's stuff. Psychological? Desperation? I mean, lots of folks lead a pretty good life not breaking into other people's places and stealing their stuff. Once you start doing that, do you ever give it up? Do you want to?

I'm okay with the owner smacking him around with a board with a nail in it, mind you. Just wondering about the motivation. I mean, yeah, it's easy to say "drugs" (and likely, too) but seriously, I'm thinking we're talking about a life led without much analysis of cause and effect.
 
2013-12-20 09:56:56 AM

AbiNormal: Subby is a dumbshiat. Link to the article with the farking picture you dumbass.


He did.  It's the new fark business model.

/not subby
 
2013-12-20 09:56:57 AM

Pauul: dmegin: The real story http://www.heraldnews.com/newsnow/x140442098/Cops-Tiverton-homeowner- s ubdued-burglar

Thanks for the link. I hate Opposing Views.


This...OV didn't even HAVE the farking mugshot when I clicked on it.  Mods, this crap is getting annoying.
 
2013-12-20 09:57:08 AM
Just say no to Opposing Views.
 
2013-12-20 09:57:35 AM

MycroftHolmes: mattharvest: MycroftHolmes: The homeowner should be charged with assault.  His life was not in danger.  No property is worth physical harm or endangering someones life.  He should have backed off to a safe distance and called the police.  He had no right to take the law into his own hand

That's ludicrous.

Leaving aside that most jurisdictions have laws specifically allowing you to protect your home (so-called castle laws), the idea that you have a  duty to retreat from your home and leave a burglar in there is just insane.

The burglar is fortunate that the homeowner didn't kill him.  Literally.  Many jurisdictions recognize that the right to protect your home is so special and sacrosanct that killing the invader is justified so long as there's no evidence that the invader was actively trying to leave the home when the homeowner captured him.

Actually, I think I just proved Poe's law.  I was trying to be over the top sarcastic, but it just doesn't look any different than a lot of the comments I see in these threads.


I pride myself on not falling for Poe bait...but to be fair, I can't put my finger one what made me think "naw, he's not for realz..."
 
2013-12-20 09:57:49 AM

hubcity: I would actually like to know why this guy decided to smash a window and take someone else's stuff. Psychological? Desperation? I mean, lots of folks lead a pretty good life not breaking into other people's places and stealing their stuff. Once you start doing that, do you ever give it up? Do you want to?

I'm okay with the owner smacking him around with a board with a nail in it, mind you. Just wondering about the motivation. I mean, yeah, it's easy to say "drugs" (and likely, too) but seriously, I'm thinking we're talking about a life led without much analysis of cause and effect.


I don't think it is fair to punish him.  He was clearly not ever taught right from wrong, and should not be accountable for his actions.  I say give him 10 years probation and some counseling.
 
2013-12-20 09:58:42 AM
I agree, by the way, about Opposing Views. Let's try hard to link to the source story - the folks who do the work oughta get the clicks.
 
2013-12-20 10:00:08 AM

MycroftHolmes: hubcity: I would actually like to know why this guy decided to smash a window and take someone else's stuff. Psychological? Desperation? I mean, lots of folks lead a pretty good life not breaking into other people's places and stealing their stuff. Once you start doing that, do you ever give it up? Do you want to?

I'm okay with the owner smacking him around with a board with a nail in it, mind you. Just wondering about the motivation. I mean, yeah, it's easy to say "drugs" (and likely, too) but seriously, I'm thinking we're talking about a life led without much analysis of cause and effect.

I don't think it is fair to punish him.  He was clearly not ever taught right from wrong, and should not be accountable for his actions.  I say give him 10 years probation and some counseling.


Given your comment above, I like the cut of your jib.

"Society made him. He's our responsibility..." (BTW, shame his name's not Johnny.)
 
2013-12-20 10:01:22 AM

hubcity: MycroftHolmes: mattharvest: MycroftHolmes: The homeowner should be charged with assault.  His life was not in danger.  No property is worth physical harm or endangering someones life.  He should have backed off to a safe distance and called the police.  He had no right to take the law into his own hand

That's ludicrous.

Leaving aside that most jurisdictions have laws specifically allowing you to protect your home (so-called castle laws), the idea that you have a  duty to retreat from your home and leave a burglar in there is just insane.

The burglar is fortunate that the homeowner didn't kill him.  Literally.  Many jurisdictions recognize that the right to protect your home is so special and sacrosanct that killing the invader is justified so long as there's no evidence that the invader was actively trying to leave the home when the homeowner captured him.

Actually, I think I just proved Poe's law.  I was trying to be over the top sarcastic, but it just doesn't look any different than a lot of the comments I see in these threads.

I pride myself on not falling for Poe bait...but to be fair, I can't put my finger one what made me think "naw, he's not for realz..."


I thought 'endangering lives' might have been over the top
 
2013-12-20 10:01:35 AM

FLMountainMan: No, news is turning to shiat because nobody wants to pay for it anymore.


Right because now there are jackasses like Opposing Views who steal it from actual news organizations and offer it for free with no/negligible advertisements.
 
2013-12-20 10:02:48 AM
Unless burglary in Rhode Island is normally punishable by a brutal physical beating, I do not understand why the vigilante home occupant was not arrested and charged with assault and battery.
 
2013-12-20 10:03:31 AM
"The front window was smashed and there was glass on the floor and on the front porch. It appears he went in through the front window. "

That's some fine police work there, Lou.
 
2013-12-20 10:04:07 AM

Dimensio: Unless burglary in Rhode Island is normally punishable by a brutal physical beating, I do not understand why the vigilante home occupant was not arrested and charged with assault and battery.


Poe x 2?
 
2013-12-20 10:05:05 AM

mattharvest: MycroftHolmes: The homeowner should be charged with assault.  His life was not in danger.  No property is worth physical harm or endangering someones life.  He should have backed off to a safe distance and called the police.  He had no right to take the law into his own hand

That's ludicrous.

Leaving aside that most jurisdictions have laws specifically allowing you to protect your home (so-called castle laws), the idea that you have a  duty to retreat from your home and leave a burglar in there is just insane.

The burglar is fortunate that the homeowner didn't kill him.  Literally.  Many jurisdictions recognize that the right to protect your home is so special and sacrosanct that killing the invader is justified so long as there's no evidence that the invader was actively trying to leave the home when the homeowner captured him.


I guess he missed the part in TFA that says the burglar "lunged" at him.. Accurate or not, it doesn't matter..The dude was in he house, he broke a window to get in, he was rifling the house for
phat loots. You break in, you take your chances..You just might get the crap beaten out of you if your caught, you might also get a load of buckshot..
 
2013-12-20 10:05:56 AM

Dimensio: Unless burglary in Rhode Island is normally punishable by a brutal physical beating, I do not understand why the vigilante home occupant was not arrested and charged with assault and battery.


Because he was doing what he had every farking right to do. What's your address? I want to get me some free stuff since I have no reason to fear a beat down when I walk right past you in your easy chair and lift the flat screen off your wall and take the lap top out of your lap.
 
2013-12-20 10:06:38 AM
I do not understand the need to take the law into your own hands unless it is an absolute life or death situation. Homeowner should have locked himself in a room or fled and called the police. Let the professionals handle criminals.
 
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