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(World Review)   Youth unemployment in Italy has exceeded 40%. Political stability would help tackle this enormous problem, but the politicians prefer to play a Game of Thrones instead   (worldreview.info) divider line 24
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2013-12-20 09:00:17 AM
I can't blame them, it's a really fun board game. I especially enjoy playing as Baratheon and invading the North.
 
2013-12-20 09:04:00 AM
I not see the problem with the youth unemployment.  Some food subsidies and a few free soccer matches should quiet them.
 
2013-12-20 09:11:19 AM
Youth unemployment is very high all throughout Europe. Part of the problem is the strictness of the labor laws. When it's damn near impossible to fire someone, you only hire the best. You don't take chances on new people
 
2013-12-20 09:29:38 AM

Saiga410: I not see the problem with the youth unemployment.  Some food subsidies and a few free soccer matches should quiet them.


Bread and circuses for everyone!
 
2013-12-20 09:48:25 AM

ArkAngel: Youth unemployment is very high all throughout Europe. Part of the problem is the strictness of the labor laws. When it's damn near impossible to fire someone, you only hire the best. You don't take chances on new people


Well that's a load of bollox. You can be fired here in Ireland, for any reason whatsoever (besides pregnancy), within 6 months (or possibly a year) of being hired.
 
2013-12-20 09:51:06 AM
Well, I guess I should learn another language since Italy doesn't seem to be a good country to escape to for work.   :(
 
2013-12-20 10:01:09 AM
If there were jobs, they wouldn't take them. They like to avoid things that keep them off of their vespas and out of the coffee bars.
 
2013-12-20 10:11:58 AM

Cormee: ArkAngel: Youth unemployment is very high all throughout Europe. Part of the problem is the strictness of the labor laws. When it's damn near impossible to fire someone, you only hire the best. You don't take chances on new people

Well that's a load of bollox. You can be fired here in Ireland, for any reason whatsoever (besides pregnancy), within 6 months (or possibly a year) of being hired.


Wait, you can't be fired a week after being hired? Or you can't be fired two years after being hired?

Either way that's a big restriction.
 
2013-12-20 10:22:57 AM

ArkAngel: Youth unemployment is very high all throughout Europe. Part of the problem is the strictness of the labor laws. When it's damn near impossible to fire someone, you only hire the best. You don't take chances on new people


And even that assumes you have many open positions to begin with, since the old farts won't leave.

Also, Italy is not a monolith. Northern and southern Italy may as well be two different countries, since they are already in everything but name. Most of the chronic problems (including unemployment) are in the south, which itself is the cause of much of the political turmoil... the Lega Nord is sick of subsidizing the corruption and laziness of the south.
 
2013-12-20 11:51:15 AM

Cormee: ArkAngel: Youth unemployment is very high all throughout Europe. Part of the problem is the strictness of the labor laws. When it's damn near impossible to fire someone, you only hire the best. You don't take chances on new people

Well that's a load of bollox. You can be fired here in Ireland, for any reason whatsoever (besides pregnancy), within 6 months (or possibly a year) of being hired.


The problem is recessions.

In America, you can hire somebody, and then 4-5 years later, once the recession hits and you have to cut back, fire them.

In Europe, you can overhire during boom times and then go out of business when the recession hits and you have to cut back, but can't.   So no one hires any more than they have to.

I'm not *thrilled* about laying people off during a recession, but if the price I pay for having them get hired during the boom times is having them get laid off, I'm all for it.
 
2013-12-20 12:18:33 PM

Cormee: ArkAngel: Youth unemployment is very high all throughout Europe. Part of the problem is the strictness of the labor laws. When it's damn near impossible to fire someone, you only hire the best. You don't take chances on new people

Well that's a load of bollox. You can be fired here in Ireland, for any reason whatsoever (besides pregnancy), within 6 months (or possibly a year) of being hired.


So what happen after a year? Can you just come down with a case of farkaroundtise when it is hard for your employer to fire you?
 
2013-12-20 12:25:50 PM

meyerkev: Cormee: ArkAngel: Youth unemployment is very high all throughout Europe. Part of the problem is the strictness of the labor laws. When it's damn near impossible to fire someone, you only hire the best. You don't take chances on new people

Well that's a load of bollox. You can be fired here in Ireland, for any reason whatsoever (besides pregnancy), within 6 months (or possibly a year) of being hired.

The problem is recessions.

In America, you can hire somebody, and then 4-5 years later, once the recession hits and you have to cut back, fire them.

In Europe, you can overhire during boom times and then go out of business when the recession hits and you have to cut back, but can't.   So no one hires any more than they have to.

I'm not *thrilled* about laying people off during a recession, but if the price I pay for having them get hired during the boom times is having them get laid off, I'm all for it.


Companies in Italy are not forced to pay for employee health insurance. I fail to see why they are not creating jobs?
 
2013-12-20 12:27:51 PM
See, the youth will put up with 40% unemployment until the new Playstation comes out and they can't afford it. Expect riots in the streets.
 
2013-12-20 02:01:34 PM

Carth: Cormee: ArkAngel: Youth unemployment is very high all throughout Europe. Part of the problem is the strictness of the labor laws. When it's damn near impossible to fire someone, you only hire the best. You don't take chances on new people

Well that's a load of bollox. You can be fired here in Ireland, for any reason whatsoever (besides pregnancy), within 6 months (or possibly a year) of being hired.

So what happen after a year? Can you just come down with a case of farkaroundtise when it is hard for your employer to fire you?


They can fire you but there is due process to be followed. Two verbal warnings, then a written warning, then they can fire you. You still have the right to sue for unfair dismissal if you feel they fired you unfairly. Before six months (or a year) you can't sue.
 
2013-12-20 02:42:57 PM

Cormee: Carth: Cormee: ArkAngel: Youth unemployment is very high all throughout Europe. Part of the problem is the strictness of the labor laws. When it's damn near impossible to fire someone, you only hire the best. You don't take chances on new people

Well that's a load of bollox. You can be fired here in Ireland, for any reason whatsoever (besides pregnancy), within 6 months (or possibly a year) of being hired.

So what happen after a year? Can you just come down with a case of farkaroundtise when it is hard for your employer to fire you?

They can fire you but there is due process to be followed. Two verbal warnings, then a written warning, then they can fire you. You still have the right to sue for unfair dismissal if you feel they fired you unfairly. Before six months (or a year) you can't sue.


The only people at my job that are hard to fire are the client hires. These are people our clients want us to hire. Usually it is someones idiot relative. You would need a phone book worth of write ups to fire one of these people. We had one that missed 19 work days out of 36 days.
 
2013-12-20 03:17:02 PM

groppet: The only people at my job that are hard to fire are the client hires. These are people our clients want us to hire. Usually it is someones idiot relative. You would need a phone book worth of write ups to fire one of these people. We had one that missed 19 work days out of 36 days.


As long as the client is paying you more than their salary you're still getting a good deal. Honestly some people are so bad it would be better to just give them the money and tell them to stay home.
 
2013-12-20 03:58:24 PM
WTF is wrong with the picture in that article???
 
2013-12-20 04:20:12 PM
How are you going to get political stability when 40% of your young people have nothing better to do than mess with it?
 
2013-12-20 05:09:50 PM
Italy needs to start a war.  Get those youth into uniform and off the streets.  Maybe they should reclaim Libya, Somalia or Eritrea..
 
2013-12-20 05:26:29 PM

ArkAngel: Youth unemployment is very high all throughout Europe. Part of the problem is the strictness of the labor laws. When it's damn near impossible to fire someone, you only hire the best. You don't take chances on new people


Yeah, but that's actually not true at all.

Northern Europe doesn't have similar labour laws, and their situations is for many reasons completely different than the few problem nations.


Please just mention the country/ies you're talking about, you can't lump Kazakstan in with Luxembourg and expect to make any sense.
 
2013-12-20 05:29:17 PM

meyerkev: Cormee: ArkAngel: Youth unemployment is very high all throughout Europe. Part of the problem is the strictness of the labor laws. When it's damn near impossible to fire someone, you only hire the best. You don't take chances on new people

Well that's a load of bollox. You can be fired here in Ireland, for any reason whatsoever (besides pregnancy), within 6 months (or possibly a year) of being hired.

The problem is recessions.

In America, you can hire somebody, and then 4-5 years later, once the recession hits and you have to cut back, fire them.

In Europe, you can overhire during boom times and then go out of business when the recession hits and you have to cut back, but can't.   So no one hires any more than they have to.

I'm not *thrilled* about laying people off during a recession, but if the price I pay for having them get hired during the boom times is having them get laid off, I'm all for it.


Whoever made the claim that it is hard to fire people is simply uninformed.

It's true for Italy, and Ireland too apparently. Both economies that tanked.

Here where I can live I could be fired 10 seconds after being hired with no recourse.
 
2013-12-20 11:21:08 PM
It's worse than it sounds. In Italy a "youth" is a 73-year-old bachelor who still lives with his Mother.
 
2013-12-21 09:35:03 AM
Youth unemployment at 40%!! Holy cow. When do the week-long riots start? And which immigrant ethnic ghetto starts it?

i40.tinypic.com
 
2013-12-21 09:47:41 AM
Having watched "I, Claudius" on PBS ( years ago) and "Rome" on HBO, I's say people from Italy are far better at the Game of Thrones than the fictional characters are...

/ the Julio-Claudians would pwn the Lannisters....they're not even on the same playing field...
 
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