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2013-12-19 08:57:29 AM  
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"In the NFL, a disappointing football player has no nickname. His name is Robert Griffin.
His name is Robert Griffin.
His name is Robert Griffin.
His name is Robert Griffin."
 
2013-12-19 09:06:47 AM  
It's humorous to me how recent high draft picks Cam Newton and Robert Griffin generate so much criticism when they don't play well. But Sam Bradford and Matthew Stafford (who have done next to nothing in this league) get to skate by - even though those guys got superstar contracts since they came in before the rookie wage scale was implemented.

It's cool Matt - throw another 3 picks to tank your season while your team is fighting for the playoffs. We got another non-existant RG3 story to talk about.
 
2013-12-19 09:10:28 AM  
Come on, this happens all the time. Don't you remember when Archie Manning worked Jim Irsay behind the scenes to make the Colts hire Phil Fulmer? Or when the pool of green slime and disease from which Michael Vick spawned petitioned Taylor Smith to hire Frank Beamer?
 
2013-12-19 09:11:25 AM  
Bobby 2-sticks need to shut up.
 
2013-12-19 09:16:55 AM  
How about the redskins invest in some wide receivers. Throw to Pierre Garcon or throw the ball out of bounds.
 
2013-12-19 09:18:06 AM  
Not that we ever need to worry, on several levels, but if I were to ever become part of the public eye, I would pay my entire family to shut the fark up. They would be employees that would do nothing but be silent to the media.

Full, ironclad NDA. If they spoke, they would get sued until they did STFU

how many pro careers have been destroyed by the lethal combination of parents/good talent/believing your own hype?

Someone that this reminds me of is Lindros....
 
2013-12-19 09:20:54 AM  

Piizzadude: how many pro careers have been destroyed by the lethal combination of parents/good talent/believing your own hype?


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2013-12-19 09:24:39 AM  

EyeballKid: Piizzadude: how many pro careers have been destroyed by the lethal combination of parents/good talent/believing your own hype?

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I'm sure he'd be real disappointed if his career ended with only 2 Super Bowl MVP awards and hundreds of millions of dollars.
 
2013-12-19 09:27:23 AM  

coolio mack: It's humorous to me how recent high draft picks Cam Newton and Robert Griffin generate so much criticism when they don't play well. But Sam Bradford and Matthew Stafford (who have done next to nothing in this league) get to skate by - even though those guys got superstar contracts since they came in before the rookie wage scale was implemented.

It's cool Matt - throw another 3 picks to tank your season while your team is fighting for the playoffs. We got another non-existant RG3 story to talk about.


Well, Stafford is like Favre without the grittiness.  He is a decent QB who is turnover prone.  He is also is a shiat market so no one cares.

Bradford is a bust.  People criticize him but he mostly goes unnoticed because he is in the midwest on a mediocre team.


Newton got tons of shiat for tiny outbursts on the sideline when his team was losing because his team was losing.  He also had a scandal in college so he got extra attention.  Now that his team is winning everyone just says how good he is, and no one cares about the problems.

RGIII gets attention because of the large market he is in, and the fact the Redskins are one of the most popular franchises.  He gets criticism for bad play because he regressed this year (though most people seem to not actually blame him).  He was so successful last year, and people always criticize backslides.

There is no way to make simple comparisons between these four quarterbacks.  Their situations are all different.
 
2013-12-19 09:27:31 AM  

Yanks_RSJ: EyeballKid: Piizzadude: how many pro careers have been destroyed by the lethal combination of parents/good talent/believing your own hype?

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I'm sure he'd be real disappointed if his career ended with only 2 Super Bowl MVP awards and hundreds of millions of dollars.


And I'm sure the St. Louis Rams will have a really OK game manager in Eli Manning in a few years (at least it's not that horrible, evil, poopy San Diego; right, Archie?), but it doesn't change the fact that the roller coaster isn't going upwards any time soon.
 
2013-12-19 09:29:41 AM  

EyeballKid: Yanks_RSJ: EyeballKid: Piizzadude: how many pro careers have been destroyed by the lethal combination of parents/good talent/believing your own hype?

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I'm sure he'd be real disappointed if his career ended with only 2 Super Bowl MVP awards and hundreds of millions of dollars.

And I'm sure the St. Louis Rams will have a really OK game manager in Eli Manning in a few years (at least it's not that horrible, evil, poopy San Diego; right, Archie?), but it doesn't change the fact that the roller coaster isn't going upwards any time soon.


He has hit his ceiling.  Either way, he was incredibly successful.  Winning two Superbowls, the Giants would make that trade 100 times over.
 
2013-12-19 09:29:46 AM  
Nothing to see here.  Just getting a jump on the usual Redskins Offseason Drama.
 
2013-12-19 09:30:40 AM  

EyeballKid: at least it's not that horrible, evil, poopy San Diego; right, Archie?


My guess is that Archie and Eli feel pretty good about that decision.
 
2013-12-19 09:33:23 AM  

sign_of_Zeta: EyeballKid: Yanks_RSJ: EyeballKid: Piizzadude: how many pro careers have been destroyed by the lethal combination of parents/good talent/believing your own hype?

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I'm sure he'd be real disappointed if his career ended with only 2 Super Bowl MVP awards and hundreds of millions of dollars.

And I'm sure the St. Louis Rams will have a really OK game manager in Eli Manning in a few years (at least it's not that horrible, evil, poopy San Diego; right, Archie?), but it doesn't change the fact that the roller coaster isn't going upwards any time soon.

He has hit his ceiling.  Either way, he was incredibly successful.  Winning two Superbowls, the Giants would make that trade 100 times over.


yes, but I think he burst through his ceiling. Not really sure how he pulled off those SB wins. I know one was sorta luck....but the other as well?
 
2013-12-19 09:36:06 AM  
Briles probably should get out while the getting's good.  He's not getting another Heisman winner at Baylor.
 
2013-12-19 09:45:51 AM  

EyeballKid: img.gawkerassets.com


I like how they've changed the script in the Citizen watch commercials so that they don't have to call him "unstoppable" anymore.
 
2013-12-19 09:49:08 AM  

sign_of_Zeta: coolio mack: It's humorous to me how recent high draft picks Cam Newton and Robert Griffin generate so much criticism when they don't play well. But Sam Bradford and Matthew Stafford (who have done next to nothing in this league) get to skate by - even though those guys got superstar contracts since they came in before the rookie wage scale was implemented.

It's cool Matt - throw another 3 picks to tank your season while your team is fighting for the playoffs. We got another non-existant RG3 story to talk about.

Well, Stafford is like Favre without the grittiness.  He is a decent QB who is turnover prone.  He is also is a shiat market so no one cares.

Bradford is a bust.  People criticize him but he mostly goes unnoticed because he is in the midwest on a mediocre team.


Newton got tons of shiat for tiny outbursts on the sideline when his team was losing because his team was losing.  He also had a scandal in college so he got extra attention.  Now that his team is winning everyone just says how good he is, and no one cares about the problems.

RGIII gets attention because of the large market he is in, and the fact the Redskins are one of the most popular franchises.  He gets criticism for bad play because he regressed this year (though most people seem to not actually blame him).  He was so successful last year, and people always criticize backslides.

There is no way to make simple comparisons between these four quarterbacks.  Their situations are all different.


The comparison I made was about being over criticized and under criticized about their play - and it's a fair one. RGIII was a pro-bowler that blew out his knee in the playoffs. Who in their right minds would think he'd come back to repeat what he did last year after not starting the season healthy?

You may call Detroit a shiat market, but they have stars on that team and were expected to contend in the NFC this year. Stafford has come up small in many situations and in year 5 should be getting much more attention for his fark ups. The market thing does play a factor in coverage (Cowboys for example), but all the guys I mentioned had major hype coming out of college and were expected to do big things in this league. Even though it's unrealistic, it'd be nice to see some more balanced coverage.
 
2013-12-19 10:11:17 AM  

Piizzadude: sign_of_Zeta: EyeballKid: Yanks_RSJ: EyeballKid: Piizzadude: how many pro careers have been destroyed by the lethal combination of parents/good talent/believing your own hype?

[img.gawkerassets.com image 640x360]

I'm sure he'd be real disappointed if his career ended with only 2 Super Bowl MVP awards and hundreds of millions of dollars.

And I'm sure the St. Louis Rams will have a really OK game manager in Eli Manning in a few years (at least it's not that horrible, evil, poopy San Diego; right, Archie?), but it doesn't change the fact that the roller coaster isn't going upwards any time soon.

He has hit his ceiling.  Either way, he was incredibly successful.  Winning two Superbowls, the Giants would make that trade 100 times over.

yes, but I think he burst through his ceiling. Not really sure how he pulled off those SB wins. I know one was sorta luck....but the other as well?


This just in: the QB is not the only player on the field at any given time.

/for example, the punting in the last NYG SB win was epic. You don't get a safety unless you consistently pin the other guy behind his 20 yard line.
 
2013-12-19 10:12:39 AM  

coolio mack: The comparison I made was about being over criticized and under criticized about their play - and it's a fair one. RGIII was a pro-bowler that blew out his knee in the playoffs. Who in their right minds would think he'd come back to repeat what he did last year after not starting the season healthy?

You may call Detroit a shiat market, but they have stars on that team and were expected to contend in the NFC this year. Stafford has come up small in many situations and in year 5 should be getting much more attention for his fark ups. The market thing does play a factor in coverage (Cowboys for example), but all the guys I mentioned had major hype coming out of college and were expected to do big things in this league. Even though it's unrealistic, it'd be nice to see some more balanced coverage.


It's market more than anything.  ESPN bases its coverage almost exclusively based on market rather than actual quality of teams, and other media follows suit.  The only time this isn't taken into account is when scandals happen (though many of those are made up in big markets by media), or when a player is so good they can't ignore them (Payton in Indy or Denver, or Lebron when he was in Clevland).  Cam was highlighted in Carolina because of his Heisman and the scandal surrounding him.  RGIII was highlighted because of his market.  Stafford keeps his head down in a marginal market, so no one cares.  Bradford is boring and in a marginal market, so he gets ignored.
 
2013-12-19 10:16:12 AM  
Hey dad!

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2013-12-19 10:50:44 AM  
Sorry, but I have a hard time taking any story out of Redskins-land right now at face value.

 

Yanks_RSJ: I'm sure he'd be real disappointed if his career ended with only 2 Super Bowl MVP awards and hundreds of millions of dollars.


Ultimately I'd be happy with Eli if I were a Giants fan considering the two SB rings, but you have to admit he's had an odd career; I can't think of anyone else in the modern era to win TWO Super Bowl MVPs but have a lot of mediocre play surrounding them.
 
2013-12-19 10:54:34 AM  
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2013-12-19 10:57:46 AM  
Art... Monk?
 
2013-12-19 11:18:23 AM  

Killer Cars: Ultimately I'd be happy with Eli if I were a Giants fan considering the two SB rings, but you have to admit he's had an odd career; I can't think of anyone else in the modern era to win TWO Super Bowl MVPs but have a lot of mediocre play surrounding them.


Well it's certainly been interesting, no doubt about that.  This season, by any measure, has been terrible.  In other years, he and the offense have been maddeningly inconsistent.  Then there are years like 2011 when he absolutely carried the team when the defense couldn't stop anybody for two months.

So you're correct in saying that in general, Giants fans have nothing to complain about.  If, on draft day 2004, you told us that we'd celebrate two Super Bowl wins with Eli Manning playing quarterback, obviously we'd have signed up for that immediately.  That's why they made the trade, and it worked.
 
2013-12-19 11:36:16 AM  

Killer Cars: Sorry, but I have a hard time taking any story out of Redskins-land right now at face value.

 Yanks_RSJ: I'm sure he'd be real disappointed if his career ended with only 2 Super Bowl MVP awards and hundreds of millions of dollars.

Ultimately I'd be happy with Eli if I were a Giants fan considering the two SB rings, but you have to admit he's had an odd career; I can't think of anyone else in the modern era to win TWO Super Bowl MVPs but have a lot of mediocre play surrounding them.


You mean besides John Elway and Ben Roethlisburger?
 
2013-12-19 11:52:23 AM  

sign_of_Zeta: He has hit his ceiling.  Either way, he was incredibly successful.  Winning two Superbowls, the Giants would make that trade 100 times over.


I'm pretty sure Phillip Rivers could have won a Super Bowl as well in New York.  Too bad he got stuck with Norv Turner.
 
2013-12-19 12:16:41 PM  
Who the hell is RG2?
 
2013-12-19 12:36:16 PM  

kronicfeld: EyeballKid: img.gawkerassets.com

I like how they've changed the script in the Citizen watch commercials so that they don't have to call him "unstoppable" anymore.


Stoppable. Eli Manning might be, but not your Citizen Eco-Drive watch... it's powered by light. Unlike Eli Manning, who is powered by 16 million dollars and throws footballs to the other team with the reliability only a Citizen Eco-Drive watch can provide.
 
2013-12-19 12:44:23 PM  
Dad should think about how his son will establish himself as a team "leader" with papa meddling all the time.
 
2013-12-19 03:07:23 PM  

degenerate-afro: I'm pretty sure Phillip Rivers could have won a Super Bowl as well in New York. Too bad he got stuck with Norv Turner.


You can't just plug in Rivers's stats. A thousand things could have gone differently. Some of it is just randomness. Getting hot at the right time, having the right resources around you, individual chemistry, etc. You can't say with any reliability that NYG would or wouldn't have made it to those Super Bowls and won with a different QB, or that Eli Manning wouldn't have taken SD to two Super Bowls absent the trade.

That said, in the Super Bowl games themselves, it was the defensive performance that really made the difference. First time, they held the highest-scoring team in NFL history to 14 points. The offense did just enough to win. In the second game, the offense gets more of the credit, but it was still a strong defensive effort holding NE to half their regular season total points. Maybe those specific games are still wins with Rivers, but they had to win other playoff games to get there in the first place, and I remember a few strong offensive performances from Manning in those games.
 
2013-12-19 03:24:57 PM  
Yup thats all the Redskins circus needs, input from a players dad.
 
2013-12-19 04:54:51 PM  
Apparently, he told ESPN he's never talked to anyone in the 'Skins organization about anything remotely close to team business.

WTF is going on then? We got trolled?
 
2013-12-19 10:07:43 PM  
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2013-12-19 11:56:32 PM  

rjakobi: Killer Cars: Sorry, but I have a hard time taking any story out of Redskins-land right now at face value.

 Yanks_RSJ: I'm sure he'd be real disappointed if his career ended with only 2 Super Bowl MVP awards and hundreds of millions of dollars.

Ultimately I'd be happy with Eli if I were a Giants fan considering the two SB rings, but you have to admit he's had an odd career; I can't think of anyone else in the modern era to win TWO Super Bowl MVPs but have a lot of mediocre play surrounding them.

You mean besides John Elway and Ben Roethlisburger?


Well since Elway and Roethlisberger have a total of 1 Super Bowl MVP between the two of them, the answer to your question is yes besides them.
 
2013-12-20 05:00:06 AM  
coolio mack:
The comparison I made was about being over criticized and under criticized about their play - and it's a fair one. RGIII was a pro-bowler that blew out his knee in the playoffs. Who in their right minds would think he'd come back to repeat what he did last year after not starting the season healthy?

You may call Detroit a shiat market, but they have stars on that team and were expected to contend in the NFC this year. Stafford has come up small in many situations and in year 5 should be getting much more attention for his fark ups. The market thing does play a factor in coverage (Cowboys for example), but all the guys I mentioned had major hype coming out of college and were expected to do big things in this league. Even though it's unrealistic, it'd be nice to see some more balanced coverage.



You obviously do not pat attention to sports media. They are criticized often. Stop trying to make this a race issue when it is not.
 
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