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2013-12-19 08:05:36 AM
The actual saint that santa clause is modelled after was born in what  is now modern-day turkey.  He wasn't white.
 
2013-12-19 08:06:57 AM

slackux: The actual saint that santa clause is modelled after was born in what   is now modern-day turkey.  He wasn't white.


Maybe santa has Micheal Jackson syndrome?
 
2013-12-19 08:08:50 AM

slackux: The actual saint that santa clause is modelled after was born in what   is now modern-day turkey.  He wasn't white.


And yeah it's not like cultures ever adopt mythology from others and change the details to suit their own demographics.
 
2013-12-19 08:09:36 AM
No matter what saint or story you base Santa Clause on, the current Santa Clause IS FICTIONAL. As in NOT REAL.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COLOR YOU SAY HE IS OR IS NOT.

Could she get fired for simply telling the student THE TRUTH?
 
2013-12-19 08:09:48 AM
This shiat has been going on for HOW LONG? I still haven't found a single fark to give no matter where I look for one.
 
2013-12-19 08:10:14 AM
Otherwise, HOW DOES SHE ANSWER THE QUESTION IN THE FIRST PLACE?

/AFFAIR WITH CAPS LOCK
 
2013-12-19 08:10:36 AM

Hoblit: No matter what saint or story you base Santa Clause on, the current Santa Clause IS FICTIONAL. As in NOT REAL.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COLOR YOU SAY HE IS OR IS NOT.

Could she get fired for simply telling the student THE TRUTH?


What he said.

This is the most pant-on-head retarded outrage I've ever heard of.
 
2013-12-19 08:12:35 AM

Hoblit: No matter what saint or story you base Santa Clause on, the current Santa Clause IS FICTIONAL. As in NOT REAL.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COLOR YOU SAY HE IS OR IS NOT.

Could she get fired for simply telling the student THE TRUTH?


You can if the truth isn't PC.
 
2013-12-19 08:13:05 AM
The 10 straight days that this idiocy has been the top story everywhere is proof that we're living in a post-racial society.
 
2013-12-19 08:13:18 AM

AngryDragon: Hoblit: No matter what saint or story you base Santa Clause on, the current Santa Clause IS FICTIONAL. As in NOT REAL.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COLOR YOU SAY HE IS OR IS NOT.

Could she get fired for simply telling the student THE TRUTH?

What he said.

This is the most pant-on-head retarded outrage I've ever heard of.


the teacher isn't in trouble for discussing the physical traits of a made up character.  He is in trouble for telling the student he can't be santa because he isn't white.  There are black santas all over the place, teacher needs to learn to stfu and not pick on 9th graders because they are black.
 
2013-12-19 08:13:26 AM
St. Nicholas wasn't white. He was Greek.
 
2013-12-19 08:14:24 AM
I pity the fool that don't believe in Black Santa Claus.

s22.postimg.org
 
2013-12-19 08:16:56 AM
So this is the new cause du jour for racist weirdos. Fox news marching orders move quickly.

The war on christmas book sales must be drying up, time to pivot to war on white santa.
 
2013-12-19 08:17:31 AM

macadamnut


St. Nicholas wasn't white. He was Greek.


But Nick the Greek was white.

www.hotflick.net
 
2013-12-19 08:20:27 AM
Who. gives. a. flying. f*ck. what color he is?
 
2013-12-19 08:21:06 AM

NickelP: AngryDragon: Hoblit: No matter what saint or story you base Santa Clause on, the current Santa Clause IS FICTIONAL. As in NOT REAL.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COLOR YOU SAY HE IS OR IS NOT.

Could she get fired for simply telling the student THE TRUTH?

What he said.

This is the most pant-on-head retarded outrage I've ever heard of.

the teacher isn't in trouble for discussing the physical traits of a made up character.  He is in trouble for telling the student he can't be santa because he isn't white.  There are black santas all over the place, teacher needs to learn to stfu and not pick on 9th graders because they are black.


Ah, in that case I retract my earlier statement and say that the teacher is a total douchebag.  Fire away.  The more dipshiat teachers we fire the better.

/DNRTFA...obviously
 
2013-12-19 08:21:29 AM
I also like how they show the family photo like 'yeah we noticed he is white too, we double checked this is legit'
 
2013-12-19 08:35:29 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

This is a 15th century painting of Saint Nicholas. They might not have the appearance quite correct because by this time he'd been dead for over a thousand years.

Santa Claus is a made up character. He flies through the air in a sleigh and lives with elves.

This is like complaining that "real Vulcans" wouldn't behave like the Spock in J.J. Abrams's Star Trek.
 
2013-12-19 08:39:34 AM
Santa Is white... Hes been white my hole life, my parents whole life, their parents whole life, and god knows how much longer before that...  I will not quietly accept twisting tradition in the name of political correctness...  Get over it!
 
2013-12-19 08:52:42 AM
So its ok to say that Santa is black, but not ok to say that he's white?  Gotcha.  If we say Santa is black, does that offend the asian and hispanic people?
 
2013-12-19 08:56:26 AM
Santa isn't white....... he's flesh coloured.
 
2013-12-19 08:59:08 AM

Maul555: Santa Is white... Hes been white my hole life, my parents whole life, their parents whole life, and god knows how much longer before that...  I will not quietly accept twisting tradition in the name of political correctness...  Get over it!


Santa isn't real, bro.
 
2013-12-19 09:01:56 AM
Frosty the Snowman is also white. Sorry black people. That's just the way it is.
 
2013-12-19 09:03:13 AM

Maul555: Santa Is white... Hes been white my hole life, my parents whole life, their parents whole life, and god knows how much longer before that...  I will not quietly accept twisting tradition in the name of political correctness...  Get over it!


The issue is NOT whether Santa was white, the issue is that the teacher was being a biatch!  Some black kid shows up in a COSTUME and she tells him in front of everyone that he can't wear that costume because he is black.....it is a COSTUME....can you not dress as an animal at Halloween because you are a human?  Are you going to tell some Hispanic or Chinese girl that she can't be Mary in the Christmas play because Mary was white?  And for your information, there were black AND white Santas at Hudson's in downtown Detroit in the 1960's.

And if you cannot accept twisting tradition in favor of not hurting some kids psyche, then YOU should GET OVER IT!   Why do I suspect that you also prefer to think of Jesus as looking like Ted Nugent rather than Woody Allen, because it is "politically correct" to envision him as a white man instead of a Jew?
 
2013-12-19 09:20:01 AM

crzybtch: Maul555: Santa Is white... Hes been white my hole life, my parents whole life, their parents whole life, and god knows how much longer before that...  I will not quietly accept twisting tradition in the name of political correctness...  Get over it!

The issue is NOT whether Santa was white, the issue is that the teacher was being a biatch!  Some black kid shows up in a COSTUME and she tells him in front of everyone that he can't wear that costume because he is black.....it is a COSTUME....can you not dress as an animal at Halloween because you are a human?  Are you going to tell some Hispanic or Chinese girl that she can't be Mary in the Christmas play because Mary was white?  And for your information, there were black AND white Santas at Hudson's in downtown Detroit in the 1960's.

And if you cannot accept twisting tradition in favor of not hurting some kids psyche, then YOU should GET OVER IT!   Why do I suspect that you also prefer to think of Jesus as looking like Ted Nugent rather than Woody Allen, because it is "politically correct" to envision him as a white man instead of a Jew?


you are reading a lot of things that are not there dude...  I never read the article, I have no idea what kind of altercation took place, or how, or why...   Also jesus was pretty brown yo...  might want to get your head checked.  I also have no problem with black people pretending to be Santa, or marry, or whomever...  But the actual fictional character Santa Claus as perceived by western civilization for hundreds of years is white.
 
2013-12-19 09:28:44 AM
Jesus God Almighty, save us from your idiot followers.

This pisses me off so much, I love Christmas (uncool I know) and Santa does embody the season.

Santa lives within our hearts and minds, skin color has absolutely nothing to do with it.
 
2013-12-19 09:29:51 AM

doyouremember.com

Ceci n'est pas Santa Claus.

 
2013-12-19 09:43:16 AM

Maul555: you are reading a lot of things that are not there dude... I never read the article, I have no idea what kind of altercation took place, or how, or why... Also jesus was pretty brown yo... might want to get your head checked. I also have no problem with black people pretending to be Santa, or marry, or whomever... But the actual fictional character Santa Claus as perceived by western civilization for hundreds of years is white.


The teacher said something along the lines of "Why are you dressed like that? Don't you know Santa is white?" to a black kid. What kind of idiot teacher would make that type of remark? I'd be willing to bet one that's been watching a little too much Fox lately.

As for the traditional image of Santa. You mean a cultural icon that developed in a mainly white area of the world was traditionally imagined as white (even though the person he was loosely based on probably wasn't?)... shocking. However, are you trying to say that as the demographics of a culture change, we should never update our cultural icons to more accurately reflect the society? Because that's what the "Santa is white!!!111" comes across as to me. He's an imaginary figure. Why the hell shouldn't kids with other skin colors get a chance to see a version that they can identify more strongly with?
 
2013-12-19 09:49:50 AM
www.tasteofcinema.com

After Father Santa Claus conquered the martians, he banged the chick with the pigtails as part of the war reparations. So now all the current Santas are actually green (son is pictured to the right).
 
2013-12-19 09:50:27 AM

miscreant: Maul555: you are reading a lot of things that are not there dude... I never read the article, I have no idea what kind of altercation took place, or how, or why... Also jesus was pretty brown yo... might want to get your head checked. I also have no problem with black people pretending to be Santa, or marry, or whomever... But the actual fictional character Santa Claus as perceived by western civilization for hundreds of years is white.

The teacher said something along the lines of "Why are you dressed like that? Don't you know Santa is white?" to a black kid. What kind of idiot teacher would make that type of remark? I'd be willing to bet one that's been watching a little too much Fox lately.

As for the traditional image of Santa. You mean a cultural icon that developed in a mainly white area of the world was traditionally imagined as white (even though the person he was loosely based on probably wasn't?)... shocking. However, are you trying to say that as the demographics of a culture change, we should never update our cultural icons to more accurately reflect the society? Because that's what the "Santa is white!!!111" comes across as to me. He's an imaginary figure. Why the hell shouldn't kids with other skin colors get a chance to see a version that they can identify more strongly with?


Because there is only one Santa...  Are we going to have multiple Santas now?  Christmas segregation?  Yeah, that sure is cultural progress...  lets have a mexican santa, and an asian santa, and a black santa...   What it boils down to is people are trying to change my culture because of political correctness and manufactured outrage/racism.   I don't have to be happy about it, and that doesn't make me a racist.
 
2013-12-19 09:52:12 AM

Maul555: What it boils down to is people are trying to change my culture


No one says Santa can't be white.
 
2013-12-19 09:55:39 AM
Western civilization has a white santa... and its even been exported all over the world just like that...  People of all colors in this country are part of western civilization...  This shiat is insane..  Its like democrats woke up one day, snapped their fingers, said santa isn't white, and just started shiatting on everyone who remembers what the world was like a week ago.   FARK YOU ALL!!!
 
2013-12-19 09:56:50 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Maul555: Santa Is white... Hes been white my hole life, my parents whole life, their parents whole life, and god knows how much longer before that...  I will not quietly accept twisting tradition in the name of political correctness...  Get over it!

Santa isn't real, bro.


As soon as I read this, I pictured Maul555, crying out loud "He's real to me" as he hits your chest with his fist.

Maul555: you are reading a lot of things that are not there dude...  I never read the article, I have no idea what kind of altercation took place, or how, or why...   Also jesus was pretty brown yo...  might want to get your head checked.  I also have no problem with black people pretending to be Santa, or marry, or whomever...  But the actual fictional character Santa Claus as perceived by western civilization for hundreds of years is white.


And it is a tradition of doing it wrong.  Also, the US is 237 years old, and traditional version you are talking about is younger than that.
 
2013-12-19 09:57:03 AM
Santa's a farking cracker, get the fark over it.
 
2013-12-19 09:58:44 AM

Maul555: Because there is only one Santa... Are we going to have multiple Santas now? Christmas segregation? Yeah, that sure is cultural progress... lets have a mexican santa, and an asian santa, and a black santa... What it boils down to is people are trying to change my culture because of political correctness and manufactured outrage/racism. I don't have to be happy about it, and that doesn't make me a racist.


I could swear I've seen a Santa at every friggin mall I've visited this holiday season, they can't all be the same guy!

Why can't there be multiple Santas? Does your butt really get all hurt when you see a black guy in a Santa costume? Culture changes as the demographics change. Get over it. If you don't like it, don't take your kids to see the black or latino Santa. Why you think it should give you the right to ruin it for black and latino families who choose to celebrate it that way is beyond me.
 
2013-12-19 09:59:06 AM

Maul555: Because there is only one Santa...  Are we going to have multiple Santas now?  Christmas segregation?  Yeah, that sure is cultural progress...  lets have a mexican santa, and an asian santa, and a black santa...   What it boils down to is people are trying to change my culture because of political correctness and manufactured outrage/racism.   I don't have to be happy about it, and that doesn't make me a racist.


If you are suggesting kids can only sit on the lap of a santa matching their skin color or a white santa,  you might be a racist.

-Jeff Foxworthy
 
2013-12-19 10:01:50 AM

lack of warmth: HotWingConspiracy: Maul555: Santa Is white... Hes been white my hole life, my parents whole life, their parents whole life, and god knows how much longer before that...  I will not quietly accept twisting tradition in the name of political correctness...  Get over it!

Santa isn't real, bro.

As soon as I read this, I pictured Maul555, crying out loud "He's real to me" as he hits your chest with his fist.

Maul555: you are reading a lot of things that are not there dude...  I never read the article, I have no idea what kind of altercation took place, or how, or why...   Also jesus was pretty brown yo...  might want to get your head checked.  I also have no problem with black people pretending to be Santa, or marry, or whomever...  But the actual fictional character Santa Claus as perceived by western civilization for hundreds of years is white.

And it is a tradition of doing it wrong.  Also, the US is 237 years old, and traditional version you are talking about is younger than that.


We have a tradition of doing it wrong?  oh, and fark you too.  This is an attempt to hijack the culture and move it to the left... its being forced, and there is nothing natural about it.
 
2013-12-19 10:12:36 AM
Clearly he's white, because at that latitude he'd need to absorb as much UV as possible to get his Vitamin D.

/why he speaks Turkish is still a mystery...
 
2013-12-19 10:16:35 AM

Gunderson: [www.tasteofcinema.com image 640x480]

After Father Santa Claus conquered the martians, he banged the chick with the pigtails as part of the war reparations. So now all the current Santas are actually green (son is pictured to the right).


Is...is that a stage version of Santa Claus Conquers the Martians?

Also, good job feeding the troll. You've only made him stronger
 
2013-12-19 10:18:46 AM
Am I missing something? Some of you are saying Father Christmas isn't white as he's Greek or Turkish. WTF? Greeks and Turks aren't black are they? All the Greeks and Turks I've met are white.

Anyway the man who became St Nicholas may not have been white, but the fictional character of Father Christmas/ Santa Clause most certainly is!
 
2013-12-19 10:19:09 AM

Maul555: my hole life


Indeed.
 
2013-12-19 10:19:42 AM

Maul555: lack of warmth: HotWingConspiracy: Maul555: Santa Is white... Hes been white my hole life, my parents whole life, their parents whole life, and god knows how much longer before that...  I will not quietly accept twisting tradition in the name of political correctness...  Get over it!

Santa isn't real, bro.

As soon as I read this, I pictured Maul555, crying out loud "He's real to me" as he hits your chest with his fist.

Maul555: you are reading a lot of things that are not there dude...  I never read the article, I have no idea what kind of altercation took place, or how, or why...   Also jesus was pretty brown yo...  might want to get your head checked.  I also have no problem with black people pretending to be Santa, or marry, or whomever...  But the actual fictional character Santa Claus as perceived by western civilization for hundreds of years is white.

And it is a tradition of doing it wrong.  Also, the US is 237 years old, and traditional version you are talking about is younger than that.

We have a tradition of doing it wrong?  oh, and fark you too.  This is an attempt to hijack the culture and move it to the left... its being forced, and there is nothing natural about it.


You think that a marketing campaign from Coke is a cherished cultural tradition. When little kids think about Santa, do you think race factors in at all?

Also, is not being white an identifier for being politically "left" now? Is that where you're arguing from?
 
2013-12-19 10:20:46 AM

Gunderson: [www.tasteofcinema.com image 640x480]

After Father Santa Claus conquered the martians, he banged the chick with the pigtails as part of the war reparations. So now all the current Santas are actually green (son is pictured to the right).


Well that is the most awesome thing I've seen all week.
 
2013-12-19 10:22:18 AM

HotWingConspiracy: You think that a marketing campaign from Coke is a cherished cultural tradition.


Hey, I cherish my battery-operated Coke polar bear. You put bubble stuff in his bucket and he blows bubbles intermittently. The kitties love it.
 
2013-12-19 10:27:09 AM

Maul555: change my culture because of political correctness


Hey, asshole, no one is trying to change your culture. Your Santa can be as white as your motherfarking Klan robes for all I care. If some black parents would rather that the avatar of generosity look like them, that's their thing. You don't have to change one bit.
 
2013-12-19 10:39:05 AM

thurstonxhowell: Maul555: change my culture because of political correctness

Hey, asshole, no one is trying to change your culture. Your Santa can be as white as your motherfarking Klan robes for all I care. If some black parents would rather that the avatar of generosity look like them, that's their thing. You don't have to change one bit.


You don't understand. Any images of a non-white Santa taints the "real" Santa! Just like gay marriage taints all other marriages!

On another note. I love how he blames this on the "left"... as if this would have been a topic in the news at all if the idiot biatch on Fox hadn't decided to insist that Santa was white to any kids watching.
 
2013-12-19 10:39:22 AM
The most despicable thing is the teacher picking on the child. It was dress up day as a character of christmas lore, that is exactly what the kid did. To use the false equivalency better than the derp-tard commentor, if the child were doing US historical figures and he chose Washington to dress up as would this teacher also chide him or need to remind the boy that George Washington was white too?

**False equivalency says "...   will we have to say George Washington isn't white" ...
It is false because we know George Washington was white, he was a real person.
Santa, the coke marketing tool that we know of as a jolly red suited fellow, is not real.
I also wonder how many of these Santa loving folks will later be having a discussion on how Jesus has been removed from Christmas...
by Santa...  yet if yo read about the origins combining the legends, lore and history, he is actually more about doing good in the name of christ.

That is if you focus on the Saint Nicholas though, as the germanic/nordic character based on Odin does not. Santa, i his most famous incarnations, go Father Christmas and St. Nick for the most part is a white fellow as he represented in pretty much all the images presented (even the greek original) as being pretty fair skinned. Still not something you be a dick to a child over, especially when the kid got it right, Santa is a Christmas character...   why did the teacher say anything at all other than good job?

Anyway, teacher is a dick because he had some issue regarding this "contraversy" and dragged this poor kid into it with this stupid comment. I want to bang Megyn Kelly too, but I won't berate a child to get there.


I think all of these people upset over this have absolutely missed the real message, the real gift of the season...
"Don't be a dick to each other."
That is the sad part, these people are tripping over themselves, each other, and all the innocents trying to get their dick moment in.

Peace.
 
2013-12-19 10:43:18 AM
"Christopher, don't you know Santa Claus is white? Why are you wearing that?"

What a biatch.

Of course Santa's white(ish)*. Yes, he's a fictional character, but that's how characters work...they have attributes and associations. Luke Skywalker uses a lightsaber. Big Bird's yellow. Batman has some serious mental/emotional issues. They're part of the character.

That doesn't mean you can't change those characteristics, and it certainly doesn't mean some biatch of a teacher should be an idiot to a kid that wanted to be a Santa of another color.

* "white(ish)" because the figure is based on a Christian saint that was swarthy and a Northern European god that's white...thus, white(ish)
 
2013-12-19 10:43:28 AM

slackux: The actual saint that santa clause is modelled after was born in what  is now modern-day turkey.  He wasn't white.


He was born in Greece and a bishop in Turkey so at the least he was off white, just the Jesus.
 
2013-12-19 10:44:26 AM
*just like the Jesus.

Try to be a smartass to quickly and it gets you every time.
 
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