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2013-12-19 08:45:59 AM
I've enjoyed our Wii U tremendously.  It's mostly for the kids, and they love it.  I still think it is an innovative console that's really only being held back by the laziness of game publishers (what?  we have to make our game different for one console?  Screw that!).

\in the end, I'll end up with a PS4, though I'm in no hurry
 
2013-12-19 09:00:14 AM
Looking forward to Mario 28 and Zelda 19.
 
2013-12-19 09:00:54 AM
i've enjoyed picking up all my old NES games and playing them again. original zelda, mario, metroid and mega-man? The nostalgia alone is worth it!

Plus, the wife and I have been really enjoying the wii fit u - new graphs and workouts, and the fit meters are actually really helpful. It's helped her shed all the baby weight and then some in just about 4 months.

And fwiw - pikmin 3 and wonderful 101 are pretty good games, if you're looking for something between now and smash/kart coming out next year.
 
2013-12-19 09:03:40 AM
So what was Nintendo's last original IP that became a hit? Pikmin back on Gamecube? We can't count Wii Sports towards this, right?

I just felt like a lot of what they showed were continued rehashes of what they've been doing the last two generations, and it's not getting me terribly excited. If third party developers aren't going to get on board, we need more than what is basically old games with new levels.
The "Zelda Meets Dynasty Warriors" is a step in the right direction but, again, it's a Zelda game that isn't a "Zelda" game.
 
2013-12-19 09:07:58 AM

Gaambit: So what was Nintendo's last original IP that became a hit? Pikmin back on Gamecube? We can't count Wii Sports towards this, right?

I just felt like a lot of what they showed were continued rehashes of what they've been doing the last two generations, and it's not getting me terribly excited. If third party developers aren't going to get on board, we need more than what is basically old games with new levels.
The "Zelda Meets Dynasty Warriors" is a step in the right direction but, again, it's a Zelda game that isn't a "Zelda" game.


Xenoblade Chronicles was amazing - if you can find it on the secondary market for less than 90 bucks you're getting a deal.

Wonderful 101 is really good
 
2013-12-19 09:13:12 AM

Gaambit: So what was Nintendo's last original IP that became a hit? Pikmin back on Gamecube? We can't count Wii Sports towards this, right?

I just felt like a lot of what they showed were continued rehashes of what they've been doing the last two generations, and it's not getting me terribly excited. If third party developers aren't going to get on board, we need more than what is basically old games with new levels.
The "Zelda Meets Dynasty Warriors" is a step in the right direction but, again, it's a Zelda game that isn't a "Zelda" game.


The game I can't believe they haven't made yet is a proper console Pokemon game.  Not the photo-safari or Colosseum type games, but an honest to goodness Pokemon game with fully animated battles.  Then again, it would probably only work if Nintendo could get a real unified online experience worked out that doesn't suck.
 
2013-12-19 09:24:14 AM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: (what?  we have to make our game different for one console?  Screw that!).


That's the fundamental bind that Nintendo finds themselves in.

Third party devs don't want to develop quality titles that exploit the uniqueness of the Wii U hardware and interface, since they would rather simply port their top games between similar platforms with little modification.

But if Nintendo did what publishers (and many gamers) seem to want, and develop a high-powered console with conventional controllers similar to those from Sony and Microsoft, then they may get more AAA ports, but what reason would there be for anyone to buy that console.  There's already two such consoles on the market, I don't think it could bear a third.

I'd rather Nintendo continue to do their own thing and make a different type of console that gives people a real alternative, even if that means that the only quality games on that console are first-party.
 
2013-12-19 09:25:48 AM

NeoCortex42: Then again, it would probably only work if Nintendo could get a real unified online experience worked out that doesn't suck.


Now you're just talking crazy talk. The whole online gaming thing is a fad and Nintendo doesn't do fads.
 
2013-12-19 09:29:20 AM

NeoCortex42: The game I can't believe they haven't made yet is a proper console Pokemon game. Not the photo-safari or Colosseum type games, but an honest to goodness Pokemon game with fully animated battles. Then again, it would probably only work if Nintendo could get a real unified online experience worked out that doesn't suck.


Yeah that is very surprising.  I just picked up a Wii U the other day from Newegg for $220 for the Skylanders bundle, the special skylander goes for $70 so I couldn't pass up the Wii U for $150.  Kids love the mario games so it should be a hit.
 
2013-12-19 09:33:45 AM

Doc Daneeka: but what reason would there be for anyone to buy that console


The same reason people are buying a WiiU to play first party Nintendo games.

imageshack.us


WiiU is selling considerably worst than Dreamcast. Both were good consoles but WiiU is a failure. It will be interesting if Nintendo does another home console or just moves to a handheld only company.
 
2013-12-19 09:36:26 AM

Carth: Doc Daneeka: but what reason would there be for anyone to buy that console

The same reason people are buying a WiiU to play first party Nintendo games.

[imageshack.us image 850x456]


WiiU is selling considerably worst than Dreamcast. Both were good consoles but WiiU is a failure. It will be interesting if Nintendo does another home console or just moves to a handheld only company.


People will pick up the Wii U because it is cheaper and has the aura of kid-friendly.  I picked up the Wii U not only because of the kid-friendly thing, but also because Nintendo has made some of the best games I've ever played.

\yes, Epic Yarn
\\got a problem with that?
 
2013-12-19 09:42:10 AM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Carth: Doc Daneeka: but what reason would there be for anyone to buy that console

The same reason people are buying a WiiU to play first party Nintendo games.

[imageshack.us image 850x456]


WiiU is selling considerably worst than Dreamcast. Both were good consoles but WiiU is a failure. It will be interesting if Nintendo does another home console or just moves to a handheld only company.

People will pick up the Wii U because it is cheaper and has the aura of kid-friendly.  I picked up the Wii U not only because of the kid-friendly thing, but also because Nintendo has made some of the best games I've ever played.

\yes, Epic Yarn
\\got a problem with that?


More of the parents I know are just getting their kid a tablet to play video games. Why spend $300 plus $60 a game on a WiiU when I can get them an android tablet for $349 and only pay a couple bucks for games.

The parents I know buying a WiiU are the ones who are or were former gamers themselves and want their kids to experience the games they played growing up and the new Nintendo output.

Sure there is a market for that but it doesn't seem to be large enough to make the console successful.
 
2013-12-19 09:48:00 AM
The only thing my 6 year old asked for for Christmas was a Wii U. He's going to be a happy boy on Christmas morning. It's too bad he forgot to ask for a game. Maybe next year.
 
2013-12-19 09:54:14 AM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Carth: Doc Daneeka: but what reason would there be for anyone to buy that console

The same reason people are buying a WiiU to play first party Nintendo games.

[imageshack.us image 850x456]


WiiU is selling considerably worst than Dreamcast. Both were good consoles but WiiU is a failure. It will be interesting if Nintendo does another home console or just moves to a handheld only company.

People will pick up the Wii U because it is cheaper and has the aura of kid-friendly.  I picked up the Wii U not only because of the kid-friendly thing, but also because Nintendo has made some of the best games I've ever played.

\yes, Epic Yarn
\\got a problem with that?


I am a Nintendo Fan from day one of my birth. Grew up playing NES and SNES. Only reason I got the other consoles is for other games I really like like Final Fantasy and so forth. Will be getting a Wii U as soon as I can get the money for one. Had to default to a PS4 for a but due to the lack of a Blue Ray player.
 
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2013-12-19 10:01:19 AM

baufan2005: Looking forward to Mario 28 and Zelda 19.


As long as they continue to be excellent, Nintendo can keep making them and I'll keep buying them.
 
2013-12-19 10:17:30 AM
I've got to admit I had been giving the wiiU and my lady (who wanted the wiiU right off the bat) the stinkeye for the last 10 months when it came to anything Nintendo as the wiiU sat there and collected dust. Hell, I couldn't even find the power cord for the tablet when we fired the thing back up last month but I've got to admit, I'm in love with it again. I loved it out of the box, thought the new mario platformer was great and I thought ZombieU was vastly underated (screw you gamespot, not like COD enough for you? Like that's a bad thing) but then pikmin got delayed, nothing was coming out and I just kind of forgot about it.

Playing the crap out of the thing now, the new Mario game is simply great couch coop, easily some of the best Nintendo has produced and really, that's what my girlfriend is into and they really came through. Wonderful 101 is amazing once you grasp it but the camera is a bit tricky, I could see that rubbing people the wrong way.  The only games I have on my christmas list are Pikmin 3 and Monster Hunters.  Nothing 360/PS3/PC.

I'm not saying the wiiU is going to succeed, who knows, it definitely won't be the success the wii was, but I'm glad I'm around for it and there's a bunch of stuff I'm looking forward to (just like Im looking forward to things on all the other platforms).
 
2013-12-19 10:23:45 AM

Boeheimian Rhapsody: Plus, the wife and I have been really enjoying the wii fit u - new graphs and workouts, and the fit meters are actually really helpful. It's helped her shed all the baby weight and then some in just about 4 months.


I am impressed that your wife has been able to lose month in four months by using a product that has only been available for less than two months.

/Still sore from a Wii Fit U session on Sunday.
 
2013-12-19 10:28:38 AM

Gaambit: So what was Nintendo's last original IP that became a hit? Pikmin back on Gamecube? We can't count Wii Sports towards this, right?


Why wouldn't Wii Sports count as a recent original Nintendo IP that became a hit?  So was Wii Fit.  So was Brain Training.  So was Nintendogs.  A lack of those kinds of new IPs aimed at the "everybody" audience is exactly what the Wii U is missing right now in order to drive sales.
 
2013-12-19 10:28:39 AM

Boeheimian Rhapsody: Xenoblade Chronicles was amazing - if you can find it on the secondary market for less than 90 bucks you're getting a deal.


Xenoblade Chronicles is one of the best JRPGs that I have ever played. I found it to be more enjoyable than any Final Fantasy game. Thus far, I am only more enamoured with Chrono Trigger.

Some Gamespot locations may have used copies for less than $50.
 
2013-12-19 10:28:45 AM
Haven't liked the latest trends of the Kart games, with the earlier ones at least there was some reason to try to race well but now its just a roulette of what power ups you get and its brutally weighted in favour of giving the last runners everything useful.  They just don't seem very fun anymore, the first Mario Kart still wins on experience despite the aged interface and graphics.
 
2013-12-19 10:35:21 AM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: I've enjoyed our Wii U tremendously.  It's mostly for the kids, and they love it.  I still think it is an innovative console that's really only being held back by the laziness of game publishers (what?  we have to make our game different for one console?  Screw that!).

\in the end, I'll end up with a PS4, though I'm in no hurry


It's not laziness, it's smart business strategy.

Development takes time and money. Developing specialized software for a single target platform is a losing game in that respect, especially now that the other new consoles are more alike hardware-wise than ever before.

A developer can make a game, and with just enough adjustments they can get it running on PS4, XBone, or PC. Getting it to run on the WiiU is a larger task by itself. Adding on making good use of the WiiU's special features just creates more work.

I'm sure lots of developers would love to work on WiiU titles. But the developers largely aren't in charge of what projects get the greenlight by the higher-ups.
 
2013-12-19 10:54:45 AM
Can't wait for Super Smash Bros and Mario Kart 8.

For SSBM/SSBB, I used to be a Link player. Hell with that anymore, it's Rosalina for me!

//Reach for the stars
//You may touch Rosalina's Starship.
 
2013-12-19 10:55:41 AM

GhostFish: whizbangthedirtfarmer: I've enjoyed our Wii U tremendously.  It's mostly for the kids, and they love it.  I still think it is an innovative console that's really only being held back by the laziness of game publishers (what?  we have to make our game different for one console?  Screw that!).

\in the end, I'll end up with a PS4, though I'm in no hurry

It's not laziness, it's smart business strategy.

Development takes time and money. Developing specialized software for a single target platform is a losing game in that respect, especially now that the other new consoles are more alike hardware-wise than ever before.

A developer can make a game, and with just enough adjustments they can get it running on PS4, XBone, or PC. Getting it to run on the WiiU is a larger task by itself. Adding on making good use of the WiiU's special features just creates more work.

I'm sure lots of developers would love to work on WiiU titles. But the developers largely aren't in charge of what projects get the greenlight by the higher-ups.


There are many devs that are on record stating that graphics are what need to improve and not gameplay. There was one of the high up devs that came out stating he would never develop for the Wii because it would be taking a giant leap backwards. This is a huge problem, at least for me it is, where some devs have the wrong idea of what needs to be improved. There is a reason I loved the Wii and want a Wii U really bad, but cant afford one right now. As much as I am enjoying my PS4, Warframe is awesome on the PS4 as well as the PC, I wish devs would jump on with development of the Wii U. So much potential and they can not argue differences any more as both the PS4 and the Xbox one both have tablet support.
 
2013-12-19 10:57:36 AM

Sir VG: Can't wait for Super Smash Bros and Mario Kart 8.

For SSBM/SSBB, I used to be a Link player. Hell with that anymore, it's Rosalina for me!

//Reach for the stars
//You may touch Rosalina's Starship.


Always will be a Link / Zelda / Samus player. Those are my favorite Nintendo franchises. But when Brawl came out, I was playing Solid Snake as well. Hope he comes back in this game and maybe with a badass Raiden as well.
 
2013-12-19 11:01:43 AM

sxacho: The only thing my 6 year old asked for for Christmas was a Wii U. He's going to be a happy boy on Christmas morning. It's too bad he forgot to ask for a game. Maybe next year.


Oh you evil parent you.
 
2013-12-19 11:21:37 AM

Gergesa: sxacho: The only thing my 6 year old asked for for Christmas was a Wii U. He's going to be a happy boy on Christmas morning. It's too bad he forgot to ask for a game. Maybe next year.

Oh you evil parent you.


I asked for Qbert for Atari one year. I got it. But my dad sold our Atari.


Also - I mentioned earlier not really being sold on the new stuff for Xbone and PS4, maybe I need to give the WiiU a look.
 
2013-12-19 11:22:50 AM

INeedAName: I asked for Qbert for Atari one year.


I enjoyed Arkanoid in the arcades more than Qbert but that being said, Qbert was a surprisingly addictive game.
 
2013-12-19 11:33:44 AM

BumpInTheNight: Haven't liked the latest trends of the Kart games, with the earlier ones at least there was some reason to try to race well but now its just a roulette of what power ups you get and its brutally weighted in favour of giving the last runners everything useful.  They just don't seem very fun anymore, the first Mario Kart still wins on experience despite the aged interface and graphics.


Try this one:

upload.wikimedia.org

It is the best cart racer on the market right now and miles ahead of the recent mario kart games.
 
2013-12-19 11:38:09 AM

BumpInTheNight: Haven't liked the latest trends of the Kart games, with the earlier ones at least there was some reason to try to race well but now its just a roulette of what power ups you get and its brutally weighted in favour of giving the last runners everything useful.  They just don't seem very fun anymore, the first Mario Kart still wins on experience despite the aged interface and graphics.


anybody played mario kart 7? that game looked like a pretty big departure from the previous mario kart games, but i have no idea since i didn't play it
 
2013-12-19 11:53:21 AM

INeedAName: Also - I mentioned earlier not really being sold on the new stuff for Xbone and PS4, maybe I need to give the WiiU a look.


I'm a big MS fan but I'm not that thrilled with my XB One.  It's nice and powerful and can control the tv and all but the lack of games is killing me.
 
2013-12-19 11:56:24 AM

AdamK: anybody played mario kart 7? that game looked like a pretty big departure from the previous mario kart games, but i have no idea since i didn't play it


Though it has some short underwater and gliding segments, I found the lack of motorbikes made 7 less of a departure from previous Mario Karts than the Wii version was.  Plus, the really long single lap tracks are pretty neat.
 
2013-12-19 11:56:46 AM

Carth: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Carth: Doc Daneeka: but what reason would there be for anyone to buy that console

The same reason people are buying a WiiU to play first party Nintendo games.

[imageshack.us image 850x456]


WiiU is selling considerably worst than Dreamcast. Both were good consoles but WiiU is a failure. It will be interesting if Nintendo does another home console or just moves to a handheld only company.

People will pick up the Wii U because it is cheaper and has the aura of kid-friendly.  I picked up the Wii U not only because of the kid-friendly thing, but also because Nintendo has made some of the best games I've ever played.

\yes, Epic Yarn
\\got a problem with that?

More of the parents I know are just getting their kid a tablet to play video games. Why spend $300 plus $60 a game on a WiiU when I can get them an android tablet for $349 and only pay a couple bucks for games.

The parents I know buying a WiiU are the ones who are or were former gamers themselves and want their kids to experience the games they played growing up and the new Nintendo output.

Sure there is a market for that but it doesn't seem to be large enough to make the console successful.


If you're a parent, you know that a wide array of apps and games available for tablets are absolutely craptacular.  For the initial investment, my son and I played the hell out of Lego City and the NintendoLand mini games.  With Nintendo, you're reasonably assured (though not always) that their licenses will be playable and fun.  With apps, you have no idea.  I have a firstgen iPad I've given to the kids that's absolutely filled with games for them.  My daughter uses it, primarily because her hands aren't quite big enough for controllers yet, but even she complains that most of the games are less than good.

\yes, it's 1.99, so what do I expect?
 
2013-12-19 11:57:41 AM

TNel: but the lack of games is killing me.


...said everyone who has bought a video game console at launch, ever.

Seriously people, wait a couple years.  You'll be able to buy the same console for a lot cheaper, all the launch bugs will be fixed, and there will be a ton more games out for it.
 
2013-12-19 12:01:47 PM

hej: baufan2005: Looking forward to Mario 28 and Zelda 19.

As long as they continue to be excellent, Nintendo can keep making them and I'll keep buying them.


I'd really like to see some HD games though - Mario Kart for the Wii (indeed, most Nintendo games) looks terribleon standard HD screens. No AA, blocky, low-res textures.

/also, remake Chrono Trigger with modern graphics dammit!
//looking at you, Square Enix
 
2013-12-19 12:05:02 PM
If you take Fark threads as gospel, the Wii U is the biggest piece of crap out there, and a total fail. If you read game reviews and comments from the general public, it's a great system with some of the best games out there.
 
2013-12-19 12:06:55 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Carth: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Carth: Doc Daneeka: but what reason would there be for anyone to buy that console

The same reason people are buying a WiiU to play first party Nintendo games.

[imageshack.us image 850x456]


WiiU is selling considerably worst than Dreamcast. Both were good consoles but WiiU is a failure. It will be interesting if Nintendo does another home console or just moves to a handheld only company.

People will pick up the Wii U because it is cheaper and has the aura of kid-friendly.  I picked up the Wii U not only because of the kid-friendly thing, but also because Nintendo has made some of the best games I've ever played.

\yes, Epic Yarn
\\got a problem with that?

More of the parents I know are just getting their kid a tablet to play video games. Why spend $300 plus $60 a game on a WiiU when I can get them an android tablet for $349 and only pay a couple bucks for games.

The parents I know buying a WiiU are the ones who are or were former gamers themselves and want their kids to experience the games they played growing up and the new Nintendo output.

Sure there is a market for that but it doesn't seem to be large enough to make the console successful.

If you're a parent, you know that a wide array of apps and games available for tablets are absolutely craptacular.  For the initial investment, my son and I played the hell out of Lego City and the NintendoLand mini games.  With Nintendo, you're reasonably assured (though not always) that their licenses will be playable and fun.  With apps, you have no idea.  I have a firstgen iPad I've given to the kids that's absolutely filled with games for them.  My daughter uses it, primarily because her hands aren't quite big enough for controllers yet, but even she complains that most of the games are less than good.

\yes, it's 1.99, so what do I expect?


Yep. Not to mention that Skylanders isn't made for tablets, Wii Sports, Lego games, etc. Tablets pass time while in the car, they haven't taken over as gaming systems.
 
2013-12-19 12:18:50 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: I've enjoyed our Wii U tremendously.  It's mostly for the kids, and they love it.  I still think it is an innovative console that's really only being held back by the laziness of game publishers (what?  we have to make our game different for one console?  Screw that!).

\in the end, I'll end up with a PS4, though I'm in no hurry


Most game publishers are untalented followers. That is why you see so many space marine shooter games. Once someone does innovate, everyone rips them off shamelessly.  Only a few developers out there are worth as shiat. Nintendo is one of them.
 
2013-12-19 12:22:12 PM

ThreadSinger: hej: baufan2005: Looking forward to Mario 28 and Zelda 19.

As long as they continue to be excellent, Nintendo can keep making them and I'll keep buying them.

I'd really like to see some HD games though - Mario Kart for the Wii (indeed, most Nintendo games) looks terribleon standard HD screens. No AA, blocky, low-res textures.

/also, remake Chrono Trigger with modern graphics dammit!
//looking at you, Square Enix


If any company exists to not give their customers what they want, it is Square Enix. They have not been good in over a decade now. Your best bet is for them to die already and sell off their IPs.
 
2013-12-19 12:23:57 PM

Nemo's Brother: If any company exists to not give their customers what they want, it is Square Enix.


Well I don't know, there is always bank of america.
 
2013-12-19 12:24:12 PM

Boeheimian Rhapsody: Xenoblade Chronicles was amazing - if you can find it on the secondary market for less than 90 bucks you're getting a deal.


That's part of the reason I'm glad for piracy.  If it were one system or the other, I'd not mind as much, but these days you end up with the used market drying up due to account lock-in or products simply not being made available for sale.
 
2013-12-19 12:25:18 PM

Gergesa: Nemo's Brother: If any company exists to not give their customers what they want, it is Square Enix.

Well I don't know, there is always bank of america.


and time warner cable.
 
2013-12-19 12:25:26 PM

Nemo's Brother: ThreadSinger: hej: baufan2005: Looking forward to Mario 28 and Zelda 19.

As long as they continue to be excellent, Nintendo can keep making them and I'll keep buying them.

I'd really like to see some HD games though - Mario Kart for the Wii (indeed, most Nintendo games) looks terribleon standard HD screens. No AA, blocky, low-res textures.

/also, remake Chrono Trigger with modern graphics dammit!
//looking at you, Square Enix

If any company exists to not give their customers what they want, it is Square Enix. They have not been good in over a decade now. Your best bet is for them to die already and sell off their IPs.


And when they do release 'updated' versions, it's tied to some absurd DRM scheme.  Nothing like having your games fail to load because you are trying to play in airplane mode.
 
2013-12-19 12:25:44 PM

Gergesa: Nemo's Brother: If any company exists to not give their customers what they want, it is Square Enix.

Well I don't know, there is always bank of america.


Any insurance company.
 
2013-12-19 12:26:18 PM

Nemo's Brother: whizbangthedirtfarmer: I've enjoyed our Wii U tremendously.  It's mostly for the kids, and they love it.  I still think it is an innovative console that's really only being held back by the laziness of game publishers (what?  we have to make our game different for one console?  Screw that!).

\in the end, I'll end up with a PS4, though I'm in no hurry

Most game publishers are untalented followers. That is why you see so many space marine shooter games. Once someone does innovate, everyone rips them off shamelessly.  Only a few developers out there are worth as shiat. Nintendo is one of them.


I agree that Nintendo is one of the innovators of gaming. Looking back, they actually caused a lot of what gaming is today with few exceptions. CD based gaming is one of those exceptions. But they started with the saving ones game without a password.  I think they had their rumble pak out before Sony had their Duel Shock 1. Motion gaming was brought to the house hold and then they invovled Tablets. Every one of these were copied by the other gaming companies.

The other innovators in gaming:
DICE (Looking at Mirror's Edge and Battlefield series)
Lucas Arts (sad they are no longer around)
Kojima
 
2013-12-19 12:27:45 PM

Doc Daneeka: whizbangthedirtfarmer: (what?  we have to make our game different for one console?  Screw that!).

That's the fundamental bind that Nintendo finds themselves in.

Third party devs don't want to develop quality titles that exploit the uniqueness of the Wii U hardware and interface, since they would rather simply port their top games between similar platforms with little modification.

But if Nintendo did what publishers (and many gamers) seem to want, and develop a high-powered console with conventional controllers similar to those from Sony and Microsoft, then they may get more AAA ports, but what reason would there be for anyone to buy that console.  There's already two such consoles on the market, I don't think it could bear a third.

I'd rather Nintendo continue to do their own thing and make a different type of console that gives people a real alternative, even if that means that the only quality games on that console are first-party.


If this were slashdot I'd have added +1 insightful to your post.
 
2013-12-19 12:30:56 PM

Hebalo: If you take Fark threads as gospel, the Wii U is the biggest piece of crap out there, and a total fail. If you read game reviews and comments from the general public, it's a great system with some of the best games out there.


No, it is game enthusists and critics that recognize there are some great games. The general public has rejected the console has sales below Sega Dreamcast levels. The WiiU won't kill nintendo's console business like the dreamcast did sega but pretending the WiiU isn't a flop is insane.

I
 
2013-12-19 12:32:07 PM

Doc Daneeka: TNel: but the lack of games is killing me.

...said everyone who has bought a video game console at launch, ever.

Seriously people, wait a couple years.  You'll be able to buy the same console for a lot cheaper, all the launch bugs will be fixed, and there will be a ton more games out for it.


And miss out on Destiny? (or play it in subHD). No thanks. I guess you could wait until September though when it releases. I'm betting we don't see a price drop before it though.
 
2013-12-19 12:37:45 PM

Carth: Hebalo: If you take Fark threads as gospel, the Wii U is the biggest piece of crap out there, and a total fail. If you read game reviews and comments from the general public, it's a great system with some of the best games out there.

No, it is game enthusists and critics that recognize there are some great games. The general public has rejected the console has sales below Sega Dreamcast levels. The WiiU won't kill nintendo's console business like the dreamcast did sega but pretending the WiiU isn't a flop is insane.

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Saleswise, it's certainly not doing well, but it's impossible to say whether that will change down the line. I think on Fark, things get a little tunnel vision-y, seems like people here have hard-ons for frame rate, tech specs, etc. I'm a fan on interesting, fun games. Nintendo does a good job on that metric. Most console games these days seem be FPS with better graphics (and boring gameplay). I have no interest in buying a PS4, only mildly interested in XBONE due to the entertainment console, and ended up buying a Wii U because I have kids, previously owned a Wii, and it's easily the best choice for me.
 
2013-12-19 12:40:30 PM

Carth: Hebalo: If you take Fark threads as gospel, the Wii U is the biggest piece of crap out there, and a total fail. If you read game reviews and comments from the general public, it's a great system with some of the best games out there.

No, it is game enthusists and critics that recognize there are some great games. The general public has rejected the console has sales below Sega Dreamcast levels. The WiiU won't kill nintendo's console business like the dreamcast did sega but pretending the WiiU isn't a flop is insane.

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The issue is that Nintendo hasn't built up their own catalog for the Wii U yet.  Once they get the new Mario game out, and a new Kirby, and Smash Bros., I think you'll see a spike in Wii U sales.  They rushed to be the first out of the gate, and they only had something like five or six games ready.  Slow but steady, I suppose...
 
2013-12-19 12:47:29 PM

Nemo's Brother: ThreadSinger: hej: baufan2005: Looking forward to Mario 28 and Zelda 19.

As long as they continue to be excellent, Nintendo can keep making them and I'll keep buying them.

I'd really like to see some HD games though - Mario Kart for the Wii (indeed, most Nintendo games) looks terribleon standard HD screens. No AA, blocky, low-res textures.

/also, remake Chrono Trigger with modern graphics dammit!
//looking at you, Square Enix

If any company exists to not give their customers what they want, it is Square Enix. They have not been good in over a decade now. Your best bet is for them to die already and sell off their IPs.


Alas, you are probably correct.
 
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