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2013-12-19 02:45:08 AM
s.newsweek.com
www.risingsbunkers.com
 
2013-12-19 02:46:55 AM
You ever try to shop with Archie or Gopher?  It'll never catch on.
 
2013-12-19 02:50:33 AM
We once laughed at the horseless carriage, the aeroplane, the telephone, the electric light, vitamins, radio, and even television! And now some of us laugh at outer space. God help us... in the future.
 
2013-12-19 02:50:35 AM
"This telephone has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us." - Western Union internal memo 1876

"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." - Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) president, chairman and founder Ken Oslon 1977

"The horse is here to stay but the automobile is only a novelty - a fad" - Chief of the Michigan Savings Bank 1902
 
2013-12-19 02:51:18 AM

The Southern Dandy: You ever try to shop with Archie or Gopher?  It'll never catch on.


PFFT!  Netscape Navigator is da bomb, y'all!  And it runs fantastic on my 56K connection!
 
2013-12-19 02:52:47 AM
 I see someone else read Reddit TIL today and Dr. Cliifford Stoll is farking legend!
 
2013-12-19 02:55:19 AM
"Try reading a book on disc. At best, it's an unpleasant chore: the myopic glow of a clunky computer replaces the friendly pages of a book. "

Challenge Accepted.

www.gannett-cdn.com
 
2013-12-19 02:56:17 AM
What is this "fire" and "wheel" people speak of? What is wrong with cold food and walking everywhere?
 
2013-12-19 02:57:21 AM
Yes, all let's mock those naysayers that didn't accurately predict the future. I mean, we all got rich investing in Apple, Google, gold, and bitcoin, right?

Ha ha ha.
 
2013-12-19 02:57:29 AM

borg: I see someone else read Reddit TIL today and Dr. Cliifford Stoll is farking legend!


Its nice to see that  you have enough time to read multiple news aggregators.  Most of us dont.  So please stop posting "reddit did it first" comments.  Only dorks care.
 
2013-12-19 02:57:53 AM

bluorangefyre: The Southern Dandy: You ever try to shop with Archie or Gopher?  It'll never catch on.

PFFT!  Netscape Navigator is da bomb, y'all!  And it runs fantastic on my 56K connection!


Dude, Netscape is nothing more than Mosaic is fancy new packaging.  Only computer geeks will ever use it.
 
2013-12-19 02:58:56 AM

Lanadapter: We once laughed at the horseless carriage, the aeroplane, the telephone, the electric light, vitamins, radio, and even television! And now some of us laugh at outer space. God help us... in the future.


We still laugh at vitamins.
 
2013-12-19 03:01:27 AM
"Of my many mistakes, flubs, and howlers, few have been as public as my 1995 howler.

Wrong? Yep.

At the time, I was trying to speak against the tide of futuristic commentary on how The Internet Will Solve Our Problems.

Gives me pause. Most of my screwups have had limited publicity: Forgetting my lines in my 4th grade play. Misidentifying a Gilbert and Sullivan song while suddenly drafted to fill in as announcer on a classical radio station. Wasting a week hunting for planets interior to Mercury's orbit using an infrared system with a noise level so high that it couldn't possibly detect 'em. Heck - trying to dry my sneakers in a microwave oven (a quarter century later, there's still a smudge on the kitchen ceiling)

And, as I've laughed at others' foibles, I think back to some of my own cringeworthy contributions.

Now, whenever I think I know what's happening, I temper my thoughts: Might be wrong, Cliff...

Warm cheers to all,
-Cliff Stoll on a rainy Friday afternoon in Oakland"

-Clifford Stoll commenting on the 2010 BoingBoing article which, rightly, mocked the original article.
 
2013-12-19 03:01:47 AM
images.bwbx.io
 
2013-12-19 03:02:26 AM
The last paragraph was good. The rest was lacking in vision of tech advances.
 
2013-12-19 03:02:40 AM
And a black man will be President before the Internet replaces the mall
 
2013-12-19 03:03:07 AM

borg: I see someone else read Reddit TIL today and Dr. Cliifford Stoll is farking legend!


Does that mean Fark is the last chain of the news centipede?

/ Yes, I know this isn't news.
 
2013-12-19 03:03:29 AM
and no computer network will change the way government works.
 
2013-12-19 03:05:05 AM
That was really fun to read.
 
2013-12-19 03:05:27 AM

DarkSoulNoHope: [s.newsweek.com image 670x400]
[www.risingsbunkers.com image 400x349]


Stoll is more Doc Brown than Giorgio A. Tsoukalos.
 
2013-12-19 03:07:38 AM
Every voice can be heard cheaply and instantly. The result? Every voice is heard. The cacophany more closely resembles citizens band radio, complete with handles, harrasment, and anonymous threats.

This isn't totally inaccurate.
 
2013-12-19 03:08:01 AM
I suppose the people who saw the Wright Flyer take off at Kitty Hawk had little idea what aviation would be like in a few short decades. The internet was a paradigm shift in how we interact with information. A lot of people who saw its potential made a great deal of money, and also a lot of money was lost in an ensuing bubble as the herd followed. We look back now and laugh, but sometimes people can't see the potential of what is before their eyes.
 
2013-12-19 03:16:40 AM
No one could have predicted that internet's most use feature is a faster and more effect way of displaying photos of Cats.
 
2013-12-19 03:18:31 AM

I sound fat: borg: I see someone else read Reddit TIL today and Dr. Cliifford Stoll is farking legend!

Its nice to see that  you have enough time to read multiple news aggregators.  Most of us dont.  So please stop posting "reddit did it first" comments.  Only dorks care.


Well, honestly, if you are just comparing news aggregators, reddit wins by a long shot. A loooooooong shot.

Fark is for the entertainment. The comments and the trolls.
 
2013-12-19 03:20:52 AM

optikeye: No one could have predicted that internet's most use feature is a faster and more effect way of displaying photos of Cats.


Strange isn't it, since humans have been worshiping cats for millennia...
 
2013-12-19 03:23:17 AM

I sound fat: borg: I see someone else read Reddit TIL today and Dr. Cliifford Stoll is farking legend!

Its nice to see that  you have enough time to read multiple news aggregators.  Most of us dont.  So please stop posting "reddit did it first" comments.  Only dorks care.


You're still a newbie here and don't remember that this article has been greenlit several times before reddit even existed & I think it's cute subby obviously saw it on reddit today and submitted it again.
 
2013-12-19 03:27:07 AM
Based on Usenet and BBS's in 1995, which was just prior to the Web taking off--and the wonders of Angelfire and Geocities--I'd have to say he was right to be skeptical.
 
2013-12-19 03:37:35 AM
for those that RTFA...  'puters probably have made getting info out easier in school...but at the college level it has made lots of professors lazy.  I went back for a grad degree and it was amazing how many professors just showed multi media crap, used some company's tests to do homework/quizzes, gave us stupid online surveys to get data for their own papers....

not that any of this wasn't done before with  video tapes and copy machines...but at least charge less if  by phoning/emailing it in you make it so blatantly obvious you are just selling degrees and if you get an education it's just a bonus.

In the olden days you had to rely on friends and test banks the marketing/engineering/etc club had... I want a discount if a quick web search makes is so obvious that professors are using the same damn tests all over the world.
 
2013-12-19 03:39:07 AM

No Catchy Nickname: Every voice can be heard cheaply and instantly. The result? Every voice is heard. The cacophany more closely resembles citizens band radio, complete with handles, harrasment, and anonymous threats.

This isn't totally inaccurate.


I agree. There were other thruths in there too, though largely, he blew it.
 
2013-12-19 03:40:08 AM
davidbolton.net
 
2013-12-19 03:44:53 AM
1997. I nearly got canned for my obvious heathen thoughts that our company should have an online presence and I've got a plan that could expedite information and create entirely new customer bases with people and resources we have yet to tap. I was just about laughed out of the building.

My job? (I'm serious as a heart attack here) Ad Director for an adult chatline service in Seattle. I left 4 years later. The company closed years ago and their competitors are still in business. Y'all should have listened.
 
2013-12-19 03:45:00 AM
 
2013-12-19 03:47:00 AM

Gyrfalcon: Based on Usenet and BBS's in 1995, which was just prior to the Web taking off--and the wonders of Angelfire and Geocities--I'd have to say he was right to be skeptical.


It's funny to think that MySpace and Facebook essentially replaced Angelfire and Geocities, in terms of having your own personalized space on the web.

I guess the irony is that you can't personalize it nearly as much nowadays. WHAR MY TILE GIF BACKGROUNDS AND BRIGHT GREEN COMIC SANS FONT

/WHAR
 
2013-12-19 03:50:56 AM
my tripod page from 2001 is still mostly up

http://sjsuhockey.tripod.com/index-2.html
 
2013-12-19 04:06:50 AM
God, what a loser. Earlier in the month I saved $400 by buying my July 2014 flight to Vietnam by buying in December.

By 1996, I was teaching English in Taiwan, and Art Bell was my link to the heartbeat of America, the strange news and the real news. Via RealAudio. Sure it buffered sometimes. But it was live American radio coming over the Taiwan computer. And I could call in to the show via the international line (using a landline, it was 1996).
 
2013-12-19 04:08:02 AM

RidersOfLohan: my tripod page from 2001 is still mostly up

http://sjsuhockey.tripod.com/index-2.html


And you can still host with tripod! http://www.tripod.lycos.com/pricing/
 
2013-12-19 04:11:30 AM

Chaide: Gyrfalcon: Based on Usenet and BBS's in 1995, which was just prior to the Web taking off--and the wonders of Angelfire and Geocities--I'd have to say he was right to be skeptical.

It's funny to think that MySpace and Facebook essentially replaced Angelfire and Geocities, in terms of having your own personalized space on the web.

I guess the irony is that you can't personalize it nearly as much nowadays. WHAR MY TILE GIF BACKGROUNDS AND BRIGHT GREEN COMIC SANS FONT

/WHAR


Sod off swampy. Does no one remember Live365 in the pre-2nd Life days? You could build your own house! With GIFs!
 
2013-12-19 04:31:29 AM

fusillade762: "This telephone has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us." - Western Union internal memo 1876

"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." - Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) president, chairman and founder Ken Oslon 1977

"The horse is here to stay but the automobile is only a novelty - a fad" - Chief of the Michigan Savings Bank 1902


"A program that dials in and allows people to share files will never be big"

Slick Johnson when offered a shot at AOL's IPO
 
2013-12-19 04:31:39 AM
ecx.images-amazon.com

Definitely worth a read.
 
2013-12-19 04:33:56 AM
The intertubes? I'm still not sold on penicillin.
 
2013-12-19 04:42:33 AM
Admittedly that last paragraph is still really solid.  But yeah for the type of guy who has a soldering iron on his desk he sure lacked some foresight at the time.  Maybe that's generational, by 1995 I couldn't imagine how the Internet could fail, but I've had my nose stuck in computers since I was 5
 
2013-12-19 04:48:18 AM
He saw the light. In that TErD talk, he says something like "if you want to know what the future is going to be like ask a kindergartener. They're so good at texting."
 
2013-12-19 04:55:49 AM
You gotta keep in mind, this article was written pre-broadband, pre-wifi, pre-Google, pre-Napster (but MP3s were around), pre-Wikipedia, pre-MMORPGs (although MUDs were around), pre-web forums (although it had usenet and mailing lists), pre-Youtube (or any HD videos for that matter. Animated GIFs were the only things that moved), pre-Flash, pre-tabbed browsing, pre-Amazon and ecommerce although rudimentary shopping cart software was available, most banks and banking systems did not have the infrastructure to handle online transacations yet, and most importantly: pre-mobile phones and tablets, enabling us to access the internet from anywhere.

So you can't blame him for being skeptical about the future of the internet. Everything he complained about would eventually be solved and/or made more efficient by all the technologies and companies listed above, and it's crazy to think that it all happened in the span of 15 years.

We are living in very turbulent times.
 
2013-12-19 05:01:06 AM

RocketRod: What is this "fire" and "wheel" people speak of? What is wrong with cold food and walking everywhere?


Those hipsters and their funky bow and arrrrrrrgggghhhhh.....
 
2013-12-19 05:22:39 AM

No Catchy Nickname: Every voice can be heard cheaply and instantly. The result? Every voice is heard. The cacophany more closely resembles citizens band radio, complete with handles, harrasment, and anonymous threats.

This isn't totally inaccurate.


He just missed the fact that in a couple of years the cacophony, harrassments, and threats would be more contained to particular websites, for example ones with names corresponding to misspelled obscenities.
 
2013-12-19 05:24:25 AM

Ishkur: So you can't blame him for being skeptical about the future of the internet. Everything he complained about would eventually be solved and/or made more efficient by all the technologies and companies listed above, and it's crazy to think that it all happened in the span of 15 years.


I blame him.  In 1995 the vision of what the Internet could be was there, and any moron would have known that it was only a matter of time before those issues would be resolved.  (In fact, the fact that morons knew this is probably the reason behind the dotcom bubble.)

I would say, given what I knew then, I'm kind of disappointed overall in the Internet's progress since 95.  It's come a long way but I though it would have come further.  Speeds aren't as fast as I thought, the graphical user experience hasn't improved that much compared to Windows 3.1 (wheel mice are the big innovation).  A lot of old, crappy protocols still exist.
 
2013-12-19 05:48:31 AM

Gyrfalcon: Based on Usenet and BBS's in 1995, which was just prior to the Web taking off--and the wonders of Angelfire and Geocities--I'd have to say he was right to be skeptical.


Ahhh.... BBS's, I so remember those. Dialing up and downloading the latest warez... surfing Fidonet... playing 2-bit BBS games.... fun!
 
2013-12-19 05:50:00 AM

gibbon1: Those hipsters and their funky bow and arrrrrrrgggghhhhh.....


Bow and arrow tool too mainstream. Me use pitchfork. You probably not hear of it.
 
2013-12-19 05:57:32 AM
So... why do they have a website?
 
2013-12-19 06:07:13 AM
No discussion of Cliff Stoll is complete without a mention of his awesome Klein bottles.  Everyone should have one on the coffee table to confuse and befuddle visitors.
 
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