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(News 13 Orlando)   SeaWorld: Our killer whales are fine. Have a Groupon (Hey, it works for Walmart...)   (mynews13.com) divider line 16
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2013-12-18 08:12:56 PM
3 votes:
Sea World is a theme park company. They are not a wildlife institution.
2013-12-18 08:34:09 PM
2 votes:

IamAwake: That said, it's not as though the investment firm is who started the dancing shows :P


That's true enough. If Sea World was smart and sincere about animal welfare, they would get out in front of this controversy by announcing they are going to phase out those shows. They've become far too offensive to real animal lovers to ever attract that crowd again, so all they have is the dimwitted tourist types who just want to clap and sing with the whale.

All they have to do is keep their current whales in a more dignified habitat, continue a breeding program if necessary, and act like they really care. Right now they are completely tone deaf and it's going to ruin them.
2013-12-18 08:30:32 PM
2 votes:
First off, the people that own Sea World in 2013 are not the people who have historically owned Sea World. They were sold off when InBev bought Anheuser-Busch a few years ago and spun off the theme parks because they weren't interested. Sea World is run by an investment firm in 2013, nothing more, nothing less.

They are interested in the bottom line, not animal welfare. I don't know what you thought happened.
2013-12-18 08:12:49 PM
2 votes:

Rent Party: I just watched Blackfish last night.   Now I feel bad for going to SeaWorld San Diego 20 years ago.


Agreed.

I had once believed Seaworld's party line, regarding creating awareness for cetaceans, etc.

Now I am convinced these guys, if given the opportunity, would create awareness for Darfur and the CAR by hacking up a bunch villagers with machetes.

Monsters for a dollar.

\these people make me stabby
\\All possibly sentient creatures should be released, and studied as if they were sentient.  Didn't anyone see Planet of the Apes...?
2013-12-18 08:11:59 PM
2 votes:

IamAwake: Anyone here know how much wildlife conservation research for large marine mammals, such as the Orca, Seaworld has done?  Including paying for the research which identified the first virus to be isolated and characterized in Orcas, as well as the screening for that virus?

Anyone here familiar with the fact that Seaworld is a very common go-to for wildlife officials on either coast, when they've found a large injured marine mammal that needs medical treatment?

Anyone here know how many animals Seaworld keeps, entertains, etc that were mangled in the wild (boat accidents, etc) and will never be on a public exhibit?

How many of the people who have a problem with this, also have a dog or a cat?  Or worse, a mutated tiny rat of a dog, such as the TMZ-fans tend to have - little pocket pooches that have been selectively mutated into miserable little rats that fit into a purse?


There are plenty of places (like the Florida Aquarium or the Clearwater Aquarium) that do the exact same thing but they don't kidnap killer whales to perform dumb tricks for tourists.
2013-12-18 08:04:10 PM
2 votes:
I just watched Blackfish last night.   Now I feel bad for going to SeaWorld San Diego 20 years ago.
2013-12-18 09:45:32 PM
1 votes:
I can only speak to my own experience. I've known several trainers, and they have all, without exception, been totally devoted to the Orcas. They would happily give up their own time if it meant enriching the Orcas' experience, and spent countless hours to engage them. I can't speak to corporate policy, but I know the trainers themselves are fully involved with the whales.
2013-12-18 09:02:26 PM
1 votes:

IamAwake: Confabulat: First off, the people that own Sea World in 2013 are not the people who have historically owned Sea World. They were sold off when InBev bought Anheuser-Busch a few years ago and spun off the theme parks because they weren't interested. Sea World is run by an investment firm in 2013, nothing more, nothing less.

They are interested in the bottom line, not animal welfare. I don't know what you thought happened.

This is also true.  That said, it's not as though the investment firm is who started the dancing shows :P


This and this are both true.

There was a period of time--I want to say the late 80's and through the 90's--when Sea World was scaling back on the large mammal shows precisely because of public outcry (I know, because I went several times before and after this period and saw the shows myself). Compared to shows in the 70's, the shows during this period were pretty low-key, the dolphins and orcas did a few jumps and a lot more interaction with the trainers. Once during that period, I went and they didn't even have a show (this was in Orlando) because one of the females had just calved and they were using the big performance tank for her and the baby and didn't want to upset any of the animals.

It's only been very recently that they've gone back to the Orcaspectacular gosh-wow lights&music shows. It's pretty obvious that they're in the shows for the money; and considering how much other stuff is available at Sea World, they don't really need them. But Sea World DOES do a lot of very important research and rescue work; I'd hate to see the baby thrown out with the bathwater because people can't get past the mean CEOs being mean to the poor sweet killer whales.
2013-12-18 09:02:05 PM
1 votes:

Shadi: >being worried about whales
>still eats bacon
because whales are cute taste like shiat and pigs are ugly tasty!


FTFY
2013-12-18 08:53:15 PM
1 votes:
I dunno how Groupon works exactly. I do know that a dude I know has a BBQ restaurant in the southend that has a pretty good reputation. They're always super busy on the weekends, and do a fair amount of business the rest of the week. I think a salesman type came in or something and sold him on the idea of the whole Groupon thing. He didn't hear anything for a couple months, then it all came out at once, pretty much without notice. In three days, he'd sold out his whole stock, was using credit cards to restock the meats and the ingredients for the sauces, and was losing money hand over fist as he was selling the items in the Groupon thing at well below cost.

He ended up having to close the place for a couple of weeks until he got the "refund" from Groupon, which was enough to pay the credit card and some of the bills but ended up being less than half of what they said it would be. He almost went out of business. He bailed out of the Groupon deal completely, and as far as I know, is doing business as he was before. There was some interesting mutterings about a lawsuit, but I don't know if that went anywhere.
2013-12-18 08:32:27 PM
1 votes:

gingerjet: Confabulat: Sea World is a theme park company. They are not a wildlife institution.

They are both.


Okay, how do you support that position?  They may do some of both, but it is primarily a for profit institution.  The wildlife portion I attribute to getting good press (goodwill value on the balance sheet), and tax credits, but I admit to pulling that from my ass (although it makes too much sense to deny).
2013-12-18 08:25:25 PM
1 votes:

FARK in FL: IamAwake: Anyone here know how much wildlife conservation research for large marine mammals, such as the Orca, Seaworld has done?  Including paying for the research which identified the first virus to be isolated and characterized in Orcas, as well as the screening for that virus?

Anyone here familiar with the fact that Seaworld is a very common go-to for wildlife officials on either coast, when they've found a large injured marine mammal that needs medical treatment?

Anyone here know how many animals Seaworld keeps, entertains, etc that were mangled in the wild (boat accidents, etc) and will never be on a public exhibit?

How many of the people who have a problem with this, also have a dog or a cat?  Or worse, a mutated tiny rat of a dog, such as the TMZ-fans tend to have - little pocket pooches that have been selectively mutated into miserable little rats that fit into a purse?

Good luck pal, you can't use logic and facts when speaking to the granola army. You may not know, but it doesn't matter the amount of wildlife treated or saved by SeaWorld, or their charatible causes, there is a negative documentary AND IT MUST BE RECOGNIZED AS ABSOLUTE TRUTH. You see, that's how propoganda works.


Oh bullshiat. Sea World doesn't need killer whales to do all that other stuff. Here in Florida, it's absurd anyway. There's no killer whales in the wild for thousands of miles around Florida, it seems like an odd way to educate a distant tourist about the sea if all they remember about Florida is that is where they saw the killer whale dance. That's like visiting a cage full of kangaroos in Austria.
2013-12-18 08:24:55 PM
1 votes:

FARK in FL: IamAwake: Anyone here know how much wildlife conservation research for large marine mammals, such as the Orca, Seaworld has done?  Including paying for the research which identified the first virus to be isolated and characterized in Orcas, as well as the screening for that virus?

Anyone here familiar with the fact that Seaworld is a very common go-to for wildlife officials on either coast, when they've found a large injured marine mammal that needs medical treatment?

Anyone here know how many animals Seaworld keeps, entertains, etc that were mangled in the wild (boat accidents, etc) and will never be on a public exhibit?

How many of the people who have a problem with this, also have a dog or a cat?  Or worse, a mutated tiny rat of a dog, such as the TMZ-fans tend to have - little pocket pooches that have been selectively mutated into miserable little rats that fit into a purse?

Good luck pal, you can't use logic and facts when speaking to the granola army. You may not know, but it doesn't matter the amount of wildlife treated or saved by SeaWorld, or their charatible causes, there is a negative documentary AND IT MUST BE RECOGNIZED AS ABSOLUTE TRUTH. You see, that's how propoganda works.


Considering they have several people who had worked for Seaworld for several years and representatives from OSHA, I find the documentary quite compelling.

In terms of how much relief they provide to injured wild animals, or whatever altruistic activities they engage in, it does not cover the harm.  Let me try to give a fair analogy: If I was to trophy hunt an African elephant, then lop of his tusks and carve a relief to portray saving the elephants designs (and logos), I am still a dirtbag.
2013-12-18 08:16:34 PM
1 votes:

IamAwake: Anyone here know how much wildlife conservation research for large marine mammals, such as the Orca, Seaworld has done?  Including paying for the research which identified the first virus to be isolated and characterized in Orcas, as well as the screening for that virus?

Anyone here familiar with the fact that Seaworld is a very common go-to for wildlife officials on either coast, when they've found a large injured marine mammal that needs medical treatment?

Anyone here know how many animals Seaworld keeps, entertains, etc that were mangled in the wild (boat accidents, etc) and will never be on a public exhibit?

How many of the people who have a problem with this, also have a dog or a cat?  Or worse, a mutated tiny rat of a dog, such as the TMZ-fans tend to have - little pocket pooches that have been selectively mutated into miserable little rats that fit into a purse?


Good luck pal, you can't use logic and facts when speaking to the granola army. You may not know, but it doesn't matter the amount of wildlife treated or saved by SeaWorld, or their charatible causes, there is a negative documentary AND IT MUST BE RECOGNIZED AS ABSOLUTE TRUTH. You see, that's how propoganda works.
2013-12-18 08:16:13 PM
1 votes:

IamAwake: Anyone here know how much wildlife conservation research for large marine mammals, such as the Orca, Seaworld has done?  Including paying for the research which identified the first virus to be isolated and characterized in Orcas, as well as the screening for that virus?

Anyone here familiar with the fact that Seaworld is a very common go-to for wildlife officials on either coast, when they've found a large injured marine mammal that needs medical treatment?

Anyone here know how many animals Seaworld keeps, entertains, etc that were mangled in the wild (boat accidents, etc) and will never be on a public exhibit?

How many of the people who have a problem with this, also have a dog or a cat?  Or worse, a mutated tiny rat of a dog, such as the TMZ-fans tend to have - little pocket pooches that have been selectively mutated into miserable little rats that fit into a purse?


You've asked a lot of pointed questions implying answers but you haven't answered them.

Do you know that two wrongs don't make a right?
2013-12-18 08:07:29 PM
1 votes:
Anyone here know how much wildlife conservation research for large marine mammals, such as the Orca, Seaworld has done?  Including paying for the research which identified the first virus to be isolated and characterized in Orcas, as well as the screening for that virus?

Anyone here familiar with the fact that Seaworld is a very common go-to for wildlife officials on either coast, when they've found a large injured marine mammal that needs medical treatment?

Anyone here know how many animals Seaworld keeps, entertains, etc that were mangled in the wild (boat accidents, etc) and will never be on a public exhibit?

How many of the people who have a problem with this, also have a dog or a cat?  Or worse, a mutated tiny rat of a dog, such as the TMZ-fans tend to have - little pocket pooches that have been selectively mutated into miserable little rats that fit into a purse?
 
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