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(TMZ)   Some people are shocked, SHOCKED, that the heartfelt Michael Jackson documentary the Jacksons are trying to raise money for is turning out to be a shameful money grab   (tmz.com) divider line 41
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2013-12-18 05:38:18 PM  
I don't believe it.

The money grab part, I believe.

but the Jacksons have no shame.
 
2013-12-18 06:25:16 PM  

vernonFL: I don't believe it.

The money grab part, I believe.

but the Jacksons have no shame.


This. The Jacksons and cash grabs are absolutely germane.
 
2013-12-18 06:25:32 PM  
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Given what we know about his predilections that image is just farking creepy.
 
2013-12-18 06:28:37 PM  
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2013-12-18 06:34:17 PM  
And...why can't Bubbles have any pancakes?

/pancakes!
 
2013-12-18 06:48:03 PM  
fark that entire family. Money is their God.
 
2013-12-18 06:51:17 PM  
MJ was right to keep his kids away from the world. This is exactly what he didn't want the leeches to do.

However, is it wrong that I think the cover looks like...*sniffle*...'Art'? It's beautiful.
 
2013-12-18 06:54:37 PM  
Blanket has a girlfriend her name is Throw Pillow.
 
2013-12-18 07:04:00 PM  
They are just awful people. Truly.
 
2013-12-18 07:09:20 PM  

fusillade762: [ll-media.tmz.com image 700x500]

Given what we know about his predilections that image is just farking creepy.


I don't know why, but if someone were to shoop Sarah Palin's mug onto grandma, that would be the funniest picture I've ever seen.
 
2013-12-18 07:13:12 PM  
Jesus, didn't MJ leave them any money or did he blow it all on solid gold chess sets and statues of naked children?
 
2013-12-18 07:34:15 PM  
Well I'm shocked. Shocked it took them this long to cash in, that is. I would have guessed they had a tribute documentary 95% finished long before he passed, with the only missing detail being cause of death.
 
2013-12-18 07:49:25 PM  

Bane of Broone: vernonFL: I don't believe it.

The money grab part, I believe.

but the Jacksons have no shame.

This. The Jacksons and cash grabs are absolutely germane. Jermaine

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

 
2013-12-18 07:54:54 PM  

JRoo: Jesus, didn't MJ leave them any money or did he blow it all on solid gold chess sets and statues of naked children?


Somebody REALLY smart put the money in a trust that is evidently out of reach of the family.
 
2013-12-18 07:57:59 PM  

JRoo: Jesus, didn't MJ leave them any money or did he blow it all on solid gold chess sets and statues of naked children?


Solid gold statues of naked children.

"Au, I'm commmming!" -- Michael Jackson Rand Paul
 
2013-12-18 08:02:43 PM  

JRoo: Jesus, didn't MJ leave them any money or did he blow it all on solid gold chess sets and statues of naked children?


I want to say that Michael died 250-500 million in debt. However, I think his estate has brought in nearly a billion from selling off various things & the Cirque de Solei shows. There was a 60 Minutes story on it, but I don't remember the exact details.
 
2013-12-18 08:23:35 PM  
Fark Michael and all the other Jacksons, but I feel very sorry for those kids.  I don't care how much money they have, or will have, they are going to have to deal with that family for the rest of their lives.  One middle of the night call from Aunt LaToya would be enough for me to wish I could just disappear
 
2013-12-18 08:30:18 PM  
Man those poor kids are screwed.
 
2013-12-18 08:33:07 PM  

EdgeRunner: Well I'm shocked. Shocked it took them this long to cash in, that is. I would have guessed they had a tribute documentary 95% finished long before he passed, with the only missing detail being cause of death.


The AEG lawsuit was supposed to be their gravy train, when that plan fell through, well, here we are.

I don't think there's a "documentary" on the shelf right now.  The family was planning on Michael doing that 50-show stint in London, that was supposed to be their money until he died.
 
2013-12-18 08:34:46 PM  
You people are ignorant and you have doo-doo in your souls.
 
2013-12-18 08:42:56 PM  

Bane of Broone: vernonFL: I don't believe it.

The money grab part, I believe.

but the Jacksons have no shame.

This. The Jacksons and cash grabs are absolutely germane.


I thought their entire family was a cash grab from the beginning.  Not that there's anything wrong with that, but why are people surprised?
 
2013-12-18 08:47:11 PM  
Its all to clear the Jackson family are nothing more then ghetto pieces of crap, but I am curious - where did ALL the money go that he made? I mean the dude was worth a billion or so?

/Oh yeah, each have a few houses and million dollar cars, nevermind clearly you can't take the ghetto out of lottery winners.
 
2013-12-18 09:12:26 PM  

jj325: Fark Michael and all the other Jacksons, but I feel very sorry for those kids.  I don't care how much money they have, or will have, they are going to have to deal with that family for the rest of their lives.  One middle of the night call from Aunt LaToya would be enough for me to wish I could just disappear


I think Aunt LaToya is the functional one now.
 
2013-12-18 09:22:51 PM  

Misconduc: Its all to clear the Jackson family are nothing more then ghetto pieces of crap, but I am curious - where did ALL the money go that he made? I mean the dude was worth a billion or so?

/Oh yeah, each have a few houses and million dollar cars, nevermind clearly you can't take the ghetto out of lottery winners.


He blasted through it like the proverbial drunk sailor on leave. Add to that busted contracts, payoff to various people, and he ended up broke. But the lawyers for the estate have carefully managed it back into profitability for the kids...as long as the kids have enough sense to keep it for themselves and away from the rest of the leeches.
 
2013-12-18 10:09:41 PM  
They have a gold mine with the Cirque De Soleil shows.  The cheap tickets are around $120 each and they do two packed shows a day.

That being said, I'm not a Jacko fan, but it is an awesome show.
 
2013-12-18 10:51:06 PM  

JustMatt: JRoo: Jesus, didn't MJ leave them any money or did he blow it all on solid gold chess sets and statues of naked children?

I want to say that Michael died 250-500 million in debt. However, I think his estate has brought in nearly a billion from selling off various things & the Cirque de Solei shows. There was a 60 Minutes story on it, but I don't remember the exact details.


It's pretty simple: as soon as he died, he stopped spending money.  Add on top of that the Elvis factor, where everyone went out and bought new copies of his songs, and the estate was solvent within months.  They've managed to restructure the debt and even to hold onto his share of the Sony/ATV catalog (AKA, the Beatles songs, though there's lots more than that) which should produce more all by itself than the kids will ever need.

Even in his worst years Michael Jackson was a massively profitable artist.  But the problem was MJ himself: he always spent more than he took in, and couldn't come to grips with economizing even during the first molestation trial.  The fact that he was surrounded by sycophants and yes-men, and no one every put their foot down and told him "No!" didn't help things.
 
2013-12-18 11:38:04 PM  
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Be honest, do you really think this could have ended any other way?
 
2013-12-19 12:05:16 AM  

Khazar-Khum: Misconduc: Its all to clear the Jackson family are nothing more then ghetto pieces of crap, but I am curious - where did ALL the money go that he made? I mean the dude was worth a billion or so?

/Oh yeah, each have a few houses and million dollar cars, nevermind clearly you can't take the ghetto out of lottery winners.

He blasted through it like the proverbial drunk sailor on leave. Add to that busted contracts, payoff to various people, and he ended up broke. But the lawyers for the estate have carefully managed it back into profitability for the kids...as long as the kids have enough sense to keep it for themselves and away from the rest of the leeches.


I simply can't understand how he blasted through that much money, you have to have a pretty farked up mind set to go through that much cash. Neverland Ranch? I can see it - that much blow a day? perhaps...

I mean my biggest spend right now is a 12 pack of beer a week, other then my $150 a month in dental bills , I don't have a car or house payment, food I give myself $300 a month total. If I had $250,000 I would clear my wife's cancer bill and have enough for a new truck and house and STILL walk away with interest in the bank every month. $30,000 for a truck and $30,000 down on a house if I won $250,000 in the lottery or in the next 12 years is what I figure I can get that amount working (assuming taxes as well).

some say a million dollars isn't much, it is when you have to earn it and spend it, I can't imagine dropping 500 million, there is no possible way I could even spend 5 million in my life, but I guess some people think its necessary to own a 47 bedroom house with beach property and 15 car garage.
In Jackson's case its understandable, if you want to diddle little boys you better be ready to drop that cash, otherwise i'd be happy with just 100,000 to pay my bills off.
 
2013-12-19 03:26:36 AM  

Misconduc: I simply can't understand how he blasted through that much money, you have to have a pretty farked up mind set to go through that much cash. Neverland Ranch? I can see it - that much blow a day? perhaps...


I remember seeing the Martin Bashir documentary. There's Michael, with his entourage, shopping with Martin Bashir. They go into a shop, and Michael's just like "i like this... i like this... i like this". This is in a fancy boutique, by the look of it, Kensington or Knightsbridge. Sort of place that sells £500-1000 lamps. My guess, he blew through £20-30K in an hour.

Elton John has staff looking after all his houses, flowers delivered fresh every day. Completely pointless.

The thing is, no-one is going to argue with celebs doing this stuff. The shopkeeper is going to take the money. The entourage are probably filling their homes with it, or moving it out the back door. As long as they're good for it (and what's the MJ song catalogue worth?) no-one is going to stop him.
 
2013-12-19 03:28:31 AM  

Khazar-Khum: However, is it wrong that I think the cover looks like...*sniffle*...'Art'? It's beautiful.


It's like something that Jeff Koons would do
 
2013-12-19 04:04:23 AM  

JustMatt: JRoo: Jesus, didn't MJ leave them any money or did he blow it all on solid gold chess sets and statues of naked children?

I want to say that Michael died 250-500 million in debt. However, I think his estate has brought in nearly a billion from selling off various things & the Cirque de Solei shows. There was a 60 Minutes story on it, but I don't remember the exact details.


I think MJ also held the rights to all of The Beatles' songs, so that brought in a sh*tload of cash as well.
 
2013-12-19 04:13:15 AM  

farkeruk: Misconduc: I simply can't understand how he blasted through that much money, you have to have a pretty farked up mind set to go through that much cash. Neverland Ranch? I can see it - that much blow a day? perhaps...

I remember seeing the Martin Bashir documentary. There's Michael, with his entourage, shopping with Martin Bashir. They go into a shop, and Michael's just like "i like this... i like this... i like this". This is in a fancy boutique, by the look of it, Kensington or Knightsbridge. Sort of place that sells £500-1000 lamps. My guess, he blew through £20-30K in an hour.

Elton John has staff looking after all his houses, flowers delivered fresh every day. Completely pointless.

The thing is, no-one is going to argue with celebs doing this stuff. The shopkeeper is going to take the money. The entourage are probably filling their homes with it, or moving it out the back door. As long as they're good for it (and what's the MJ song catalogue worth?) no-one is going to stop him.


When I lived in Miami over 10 years ago, I had a friend that worked as manager at FYE at Aventura Mall. He said that MJ called to have the store open for a private shopping spree after hours so he and his kids could shop without bring bothered. The dude practically bought every Disney movie and Japanese anime on DVD in the store, all the posters, and a few TV series box sets. He even showed me the pictures of MJ and his kids posing for photos with the staff and the copy of Moonwalker that Michael signed for him
 
2013-12-19 04:38:40 AM  

Misconduc: Khazar-Khum: Misconduc: Its all to clear the Jackson family are nothing more then ghetto pieces of crap, but I am curious - where did ALL the money go that he made? I mean the dude was worth a billion or so?

/Oh yeah, each have a few houses and million dollar cars, nevermind clearly you can't take the ghetto out of lottery winners.

He blasted through it like the proverbial drunk sailor on leave. Add to that busted contracts, payoff to various people, and he ended up broke. But the lawyers for the estate have carefully managed it back into profitability for the kids...as long as the kids have enough sense to keep it for themselves and away from the rest of the leeches.

I simply can't understand how he blasted through that much money, you have to have a pretty farked up mind set to go through that much cash. Neverland Ranch? I can see it - that much blow a day? perhaps...

I mean my biggest spend right now is a 12 pack of beer a week, other then my $150 a month in dental bills , I don't have a car or house payment, food I give myself $300 a month total. If I had $250,000 I would clear my wife's cancer bill and have enough for a new truck and house and STILL walk away with interest in the bank every month. $30,000 for a truck and $30,000 down on a house if I won $250,000 in the lottery or in the next 12 years is what I figure I can get that amount working (assuming taxes as well).

some say a million dollars isn't much, it is when you have to earn it and spend it, I can't imagine dropping 500 million, there is no possible way I could even spend 5 million in my life, but I guess some people think its necessary to own a 47 bedroom house with beach property and 15 car garage.
In Jackson's case its understandable, if you want to diddle little boys you better be ready to drop that cash, otherwise i'd be happy with just 100,000 to pay my bills off.


I think part of it is the same problem a lot of lottery winners have. They don't understand the difference between a very large amount of money and an infinite amount of money. And big purchases can come with lots of additional costs. Have a private zoo or whatever? I bet that adds up quick.
 
2013-12-19 04:49:18 AM  
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2013-12-19 04:51:19 AM  
So, the long and short of it is:  He was worth more dead than alive.*


*Anyone else ever get suspicious about who was actually paying the doctor and why?

Anyone else ever think that the oldest IS actually the biological son of MJ's dermatologist?  (Have you compared pics of the two of them?  Do a Google image search and seek out pics of the younger Dr. Arnold Klein and compare)  After all the mother (Rowe) was his assistant at the medical practice and admitted that the kid was conceived through artificial insemination.
 
2013-12-19 08:35:45 AM  
<SIGH>

This whole thing with Micheal Jackson's kids is one long, slow car wreak that will last their entire lives and it's very sad.

/They never had a chance.
 
2013-12-19 08:50:30 AM  

miniflea: And big purchases can come with lots of additional costs. Have a private zoo or whatever? I bet that adds up quick.


Agreed. It's always the recurring costs that kill you.

/An unlocked iPhone is like 600 bucks. Running it is going to cost about that much again, year after year. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
 
2013-12-19 08:51:16 AM  

lawboy87: *Anyone else ever get suspicious about who was actually paying the doctor and why?


No, because AIG (the company promoting the London shows) was paying him; it was in their best interest to keep Michael Jackson alive, as they stood to make hundreds of millions from the shows.  Jackson as a performer was near uninsurable, so it's not like they could take out a huge policy on him and then cash in.

Like I said before, no one said "No!" to Jackson.  He wanted Murray hired, so AIG hired him.  If they'd been sensible business people, rather than catering to his whims, they would have said, no you get a real doctor of our choosing.

People played the same games trying to work with Marlon Brando.  And Liza Minelli.  And Judy Garland.  And Sly Stone.
 
2013-12-19 08:57:04 AM  

farkeruk: Elton John has staff looking after all his houses, flowers delivered fresh every day. Completely pointless.


The thing is Elton John is at a point in his career where he's banking more than he spends.  He can do lavish things because he can afford them (when he tours the States a private plane flies him home every night, so he can sleep in his own bed).  And rather than spend money on drugs, he's built up one of the finest collections of art photography in the world.

Misconduc: I simply can't understand how he blasted through that much money, you have to have a pretty farked up mind set to go through that much cash. Neverland Ranch? I can see it - that much blow a day? perhaps...


For instance: there was a period he was carrying expenses at Neverland (before it was finally sold) but living in the rented house he died in, which he had paid to redecorate even though it came furnished.  That kind of financial stupidity drags you down quickly.
 
2013-12-19 10:02:59 AM  
Here's something you don't read everyday: The kids would've been better off with Michael Jackson.
 
2013-12-19 12:34:08 PM  
Dwight Yeast,

It was Michael Jackson (or his entourage) who wanted Dr. Murray to be Michael's personal physician.   I don't think it unreasonable to assume that his/their choice was based on Murray's ethics being such that he would do the things Michael wanted done (administering him drugs that were not medically necessary) with minimal muss and fuss.  AIG was paying the bills, but that does not in any way assure that there wasn't a conflict of interest between all the parties at play here.

I really do believe that there are members of Michael's family who would rather have had him dead and in the ground than allow him to continue to piss (spend) away his estate and wealth, leaving them with nothing.  That was certainly a possibility at the time, much of what is in his estate currently - which is providing income to the estate, was on the auction block back at that time.  If Jackson had cashed them out, I doubt his estate would have ever have been able to recover and he would have died insolvent and the family left with nothing, or not much.

It's not a huge stretch for me to believe that someone offered Murray something to either keep Michael hopped up on a bunch of dangerous med's that they knew would eventually kill him (which coincided with Michael's wishes to stay hopped up on a bunch of dangerous meds) and thus causing Murray not to intervene to actually help him; or they took it one step further to make certain that he was going to die and made it look like an accident.   I don't think you have to be Alex Jones level to wonder if that was a possibility in the case looking at all the hems and haws and delays going on while Jackson was laying there dying and the rest of the circumstances leading up to this death.
 
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