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(Torrent Freak)   Ten years ago the MPAA offered up this anti-piracy slogan: You wouldn't download a car. Now Porsche offers up 3D blueprints for you to download and print a car   (torrentfreak.com) divider line 72
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2013-12-18 05:33:38 PM
Oblig:

l.wigflip.com
 
2013-12-18 05:37:56 PM
You wouldn't steal shoot a policeman. And then steal his helmet. You wouldn't go to the toilet in his helmet.
 
2013-12-18 05:39:21 PM

DammitIForgotMyLogin: You wouldn't steal shoot a policeman. And then steal his helmet. You wouldn't go to the toilet in his helmet.


I wouldn't give the helmet to his widow.
 
2013-12-18 06:01:42 PM
I would.

If I had the right drivers.
 
2013-12-18 06:36:59 PM
If I could download cocaine I would be dead now.
 
2013-12-18 06:40:48 PM
ibtb
 
2013-12-18 06:40:54 PM
We can already download people, sort of.  I spent some time recently with a fully interactive copy of Jessica Alba. In other word: I dreamed about her.
 
2013-12-18 06:45:00 PM
I guess they think this will make up for Paul Walker....
 
2013-12-18 06:46:01 PM

Heliovdrake: I would.

If I had the right drivers.


OK, this right here is f*cking gold. Holy sh*t it's perfect.
 
2013-12-18 06:46:46 PM

scottydoesntknow: Oblig:

[l.wigflip.com image 560x380]


I always thought that was one of the dumber ad campaigns I'd seen. I mean seriously, trying to shame people that torrent or illegally download stuff by asking if they'd download something that it isn't possible to download yet? Do they really think that people that were torrenting wouldn't download a car if it was possible to do so?

Give a million people the ability and the chance to download something for free that they'd usually have to pay for and I'd be willing to bet a very significant portion of that million would start downloading the second it was uploaded.
 
2013-12-18 06:51:32 PM
Wake me when I can download a BEAR!
 
2013-12-18 06:53:13 PM

DammitIForgotMyLogin: You wouldn't steal shoot a policeman. And then steal his helmet. You wouldn't go to the toilet in his helmet.


If I was a pregnant woman by law he'd have to let me pee in his helmet.
 
2013-12-18 06:56:02 PM
I want to download a planet
 
2013-12-18 06:57:13 PM
*Some assembly required.
 
2013-12-18 07:04:15 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: I want to download a planet


Downloading it isn't the issue, it's printing it that's a biatch.
 
2013-12-18 07:08:53 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: scottydoesntknow: Oblig:

[l.wigflip.com image 560x380]

I always thought that was one of the dumber ad campaigns I'd seen. I mean seriously, trying to shame people that torrent or illegally download stuff by asking if they'd download something that it isn't possible to download yet? Do they really think that people that were torrenting wouldn't download a car if it was possible to do so?

Give a million people the ability and the chance to download something for free that they'd usually have to pay for and I'd be willing to bet a very significant portion of that million would start downloading the second it was uploaded.


The "you wouldn't download a car" pic is shopped. The original said "you wouldn't steal a car" and then it equates downloading music to stealing cars and whatever else was in it. So it's not quite as ridiculous in that people would absolutely take marginally free copies of things. But the shopped version gets the spirit of it since its a silly comparison to stealing.
 
2013-12-18 07:20:16 PM

enry: DammitIForgotMyLogin: You wouldn't steal shoot a policeman. And then steal his helmet. You wouldn't go to the toilet in his helmet.

I wouldn't give the helmet to his widow.


But if you did, would you then steal it again?
 
2013-12-18 07:23:09 PM

enry: DammitIForgotMyLogin: You wouldn't steal shoot a policeman. And then steal his helmet. You wouldn't go to the toilet in his helmet.

I wouldn't give the helmet to his widow.


Leaving this here.
 
2013-12-18 07:25:01 PM
static.fjcdn.com
 
2013-12-18 07:39:59 PM

talkertopc: We can already download people, sort of.  I spent some time recently with a fully interactive copy of Jessica Alba. In other word: I dreamed about her.


Was she wearing Lightspeed Briefs?
 
2013-12-18 07:54:18 PM
I was conflicted by the anti-piracy warnings on Pirates Of The Caribbean.
 
2013-12-18 08:09:10 PM
I would download anydamnthing I pleased.

I would merely refrain from selling copies.
 
2013-12-18 08:15:32 PM
Uh huh. Like this?


www.wonderlandmodels.com

It's a revolution.

So, which Farker is going to 3D print a car and drive it to Montreal??
 
2013-12-18 08:19:47 PM

spamdog: If I could download cocaine I would be dead now.


According do this guy you can:

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/132626/3d-printers-a-border-s ec urity-threat-minister
 
2013-12-18 08:30:51 PM
I would download the MPAA itself.
 
2013-12-18 08:41:10 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Uh huh. Like this?




It's a revolution.

So, which Farker is going to 3D print a car and drive it to Montreal??


LUDDITE!!! Whargarbl!!!!
 
2013-12-18 08:53:46 PM

haydenarrrrgh: spamdog: If I could download cocaine I would be dead now.

According do this guy you can:

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/132626/3d-printers-a-border-s ec urity-threat-minister


Sure, but the feedstock is pricey
 
2013-12-18 08:57:19 PM
You better believe that I would download the plans for an AC Ace and print up a car if I could.
 
2013-12-18 08:58:07 PM
I smell something in here.
 
2013-12-18 09:01:05 PM
If theft is theft, then downloading a song or a movie is the same as stealing a car. Peter Jackson didn't spend half a billion dollars making a boring movie so you looters could go download it for free.

(I'm talking to YOU India and China)
 
2013-12-18 09:10:50 PM

MJMaloney187: If theft is theft, then downloading a song or a movie is the same as stealing a car. Peter Jackson didn't spend half a billion dollars making a boring movie so you looters could go download it for free.

(I'm talking to YOU India and China)


But not Antigua?  Cause they get a free pass, according to the WTO.
 
2013-12-18 09:14:35 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: So, which Farker is going to 3D print a car and drive it to Montreal??


Who indeed?

3d printed...
~i.dailymail.co.uk

3d printed...
~img.gawkerassets.com

3d printed....
~www.entrepreneur.com

And wait for it...yep, 3d printed...
~www.ecochunk.com
 
2013-12-18 09:24:09 PM
I wonder if the bad smelling thing is going to start crying and screaming and ranting in here.
 
2013-12-18 09:25:55 PM

Kittypie070: I wonder if the bad smelling thing is going to start crying and screaming and ranting in here.


Kittypie, there are no turds on fark.com so I have no idea what you are smelling.
 
2013-12-18 09:30:07 PM

jonny_q: Dingleberry Dickwad: scottydoesntknow: Oblig:

[l.wigflip.com image 560x380]

I always thought that was one of the dumber ad campaigns I'd seen. I mean seriously, trying to shame people that torrent or illegally download stuff by asking if they'd download something that it isn't possible to download yet? Do they really think that people that were torrenting wouldn't download a car if it was possible to do so?

Give a million people the ability and the chance to download something for free that they'd usually have to pay for and I'd be willing to bet a very significant portion of that million would start downloading the second it was uploaded.

The "you wouldn't download a car" pic is shopped. The original said "you wouldn't steal a car" and then it equates downloading music to stealing cars and whatever else was in it. So it's not quite as ridiculous in that people would absolutely take marginally free copies of things. But the shopped version gets the spirit of it since its a silly comparison to stealing.


I don't understand that.  The comparison to stealing is only silly if you look at it from the producer's side.  Looking at it from the consumer's side, you're still receiving something that you didn't pay for, which is the functional equivalent of stealing even if you don't technically deprive the owner of its use.

/rampant pirate trying to reform.
 
2013-12-18 09:34:53 PM
This isn't so much like downloading audio files from the internet as it is downloading sheet music.
 
2013-12-18 09:40:34 PM

rugman11: jonny_q: Dingleberry Dickwad: scottydoesntknow: Oblig:

[l.wigflip.com image 560x380]

I always thought that was one of the dumber ad campaigns I'd seen. I mean seriously, trying to shame people that torrent or illegally download stuff by asking if they'd download something that it isn't possible to download yet? Do they really think that people that were torrenting wouldn't download a car if it was possible to do so?

Give a million people the ability and the chance to download something for free that they'd usually have to pay for and I'd be willing to bet a very significant portion of that million would start downloading the second it was uploaded.

The "you wouldn't download a car" pic is shopped. The original said "you wouldn't steal a car" and then it equates downloading music to stealing cars and whatever else was in it. So it's not quite as ridiculous in that people would absolutely take marginally free copies of things. But the shopped version gets the spirit of it since its a silly comparison to stealing.

I don't understand that.  The comparison to stealing is only silly if you look at it from the producer's side.  Looking at it from the consumer's side, you're still receiving something that you didn't pay for, which is the functional equivalent of stealing even if you don't technically deprive the owner of its use.

/rampant pirate trying to reform.


It's the functional equivalent of stealing, if you redefine stealing.

It's like looking at a pretty girl is rape, except that you didn't take anything from the girl.

It's like using solar energy is stealing from the oil company, except they still have their oil.

Unauthorized use of another's copyrighted material is not stealing.  It is a copyright violation.

/still pirate.
/matter of convenience, not money.  Half the stuff I pirate is broadcast tv, just to timeshift at my convenience (and I pay a hefty monthly payment to Directv at the same time).  The other half is stuff that I already own, because it's more convenient than getting the bluray out and wading through 5 minutes of kruft and accusations to get to the part that I paid for.
 
2013-12-18 09:48:53 PM

joeshill: It's the functional equivalent of stealing, if you redefine stealing.

It's like looking at a pretty girl is rape, except that you didn't take anything from the girl.

It's like using solar energy is stealing from the oil company, except they still have their oil.

Unauthorized use of another's copyrighted material is not stealing. It is a copyright violation.

/still pirate.
/matter of convenience, not money. Half the stuff I pirate is broadcast tv, just to timeshift at my convenience (and I pay a hefty monthly payment to Directv at the same time). The other half is stuff that I already own, because it's more convenient than getting the bluray out and wading through 5 minutes of kruft and accusations to get to the part that I paid for.


Right, but you're still looking at it from the producer's perspective.  It's not stealing, but from the perspective of the downloader, they may as well have stolen, as the result, for them, is the same.  It's completely a matter of semantics but it makes the "You wouldn't download a car" argument a little stronger.

/I mostly download to location shift (I like to watch on my phone at the gym or at work) or because my DVR only downloads two shows at a time.  We've started subscribing to at least one premium channel at a time to lessen our downloads.  In the spring and summer it's HBO.  Right now, it's BBC America for Doctor Who.
 
2013-12-18 10:00:50 PM

rugman11: Right, but you're still looking at it from the producer's perspective. It's not stealing, but from the perspective of the downloader, they may as well have stolen, as the result, for them, is the same.


But it's also incredibly incorrect to say that every download eliminates a purchase.  Your own slashie is an example of why.
 
2013-12-18 10:10:20 PM

RussianPooper: This isn't so much like downloading audio files from the internet as it is downloading sheet music.


Sheet music is for people.  You need a machine readable format, like a MIDI file.
 
2013-12-18 10:10:43 PM

rugman11: Right, but you're still looking at it from the producer's perspective.  It's not stealing, but from the perspective of the downloader, they may as well have stolen, as the result, for them, is the same.  It's completely a matter of semantics but it makes the "You wouldn't download a car" argument a little stronger


that is only with the crazy idea that somehow 1 industry deserves to collect every time their 1 time work is used. i wouldn't download a car, but i will take my car, polish it, and charge people to sit in it.  THEY would call that stealing if i did that with a movie.
 
2013-12-18 10:11:20 PM

12349876: rugman11: Right, but you're still looking at it from the producer's perspective. It's not stealing, but from the perspective of the downloader, they may as well have stolen, as the result, for them, is the same.

But it's also incredibly incorrect to say that every download eliminates a purchase.  Your own slashie is an example of why.


Oh, no doubt.  But it's also incredibly incorrect to say that no download eliminates a purchase.  As usual the truth is somewhere in between.

I wish I knew the answer.  Clearly cost plays a big part.  Timeshifting and location shifting play another.  I think the answer is going to involve dynamic advertising.  If networks could get paid for ads displayed, more than three days out I think that would help a lot.  If people could stream episodes online, for free, with the network still getting their normal ad rates, I think everybody would be more happy.  Maybe not perfectly happy, but more happy.
 
2013-12-18 10:13:19 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: I want to download a planet


I downloaded what I thought was a moon, only to find out: that's no moon.
 
2013-12-18 10:14:07 PM
Joeshill, you seem to be the one redefining stealing.  To steal something is not just to deprive somebody of the use of something, it is taking something that doesn't belong to you.
 
2013-12-18 10:31:29 PM

Stone Meadow: 3d printed


3D printed panels, I think you mean.
 
2013-12-18 10:39:00 PM

spamdog: Stone Meadow: 3d printed

3D printed panels, I think you mean.


Oh well then it's worthless. If I can't fabricate the entire car then we might as well stop working on the technology.
 
2013-12-18 10:40:46 PM

haydenarrrrgh: spamdog: If I could download cocaine I would be dead now.

According do this guy you can:

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/132626/3d-printers-a-border-s ec urity-threat-minister


So the politician's and idiot (so what else it new), but it does make me wonder how drug abuse is handled in the Star Trek universe. Are there hordes of people that are never shown in the TV shows/movies that do nothing but have a replicator produce meth/heroin/etc?
 
2013-12-18 10:42:43 PM

js34603: spamdog: Stone Meadow: 3d printed

3D printed panels, I think you mean.


Oh well then it's worthless. If I can't fabricate the entire car then we might as well stop working on the technology.


*sniffs again*

OK, snoot thought that was funny.
 
2013-12-18 10:43:40 PM

manimal2878: Joeshill, you seem to be the one redefining stealing.  To steal something is not just to deprive somebody of the use of something, it is taking something that doesn't belong to you.


But you aren't "taking" anything, you are duplicating it; the original is still wherever the fark it was before you entered the picture. The duplicate doesn't "belong" to whomever else, it belongs to you because you created it. Now, whether or not you had permission to duplicate it is another story, but that is why it is called "copyright infringement" and not "theft".

talkertopc: We can already download people, sort of.  I spent some time recently with a fully interactive copy of Jessica Alba. In other word: I dreamed about her.


I downloaded Lucy Liu.

theinfosphere.org
 
2013-12-18 10:44:53 PM
Boo hoo! I don't want to pay money for things!
 
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