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(Polygon)   VGX was hated by 1.1 million people, which in TV terms translates to: 1.1 million people watched, let's do that some more   (polygon.com) divider line 4
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2013-12-18 05:22:41 PM  
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What is VGX?
2013-12-18 11:17:19 PM  
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RoxtarRyan: Only recently has gaming been taken at all seriously in society. As recent as the late 90's and 00's, if you were a gamer, you had attached to you a stigma of "no friends/loner/weirdo". In the last few years, that has changed, with gaming becoming more mainstream, to the point where mom and dad are even likely to have Angry Birds or some other mobile app game installed on their smartphones.


Gods, this is such bullshiat.  Video games have been mainstream since the late 1970s. We actually had a fad called "Pac Man Fever" with a song, cartoons, t-shirts, etc. We had cocktail arcade games in every bar and Pizza Hut in the country, and EVERYONE played them, from Space Invaders to Galaga. I bet you can't find many women between the ages of 30 and 50 who haven't played Centipede. We had arcades and mini-arcades in every movie theater, mall, strip mall, and even department stores in the 1980s, and again, everyone played them.

We had home consoles since the 1970s, and it wasn't just kids or weirdos buying and playing them. When I was 10 years old, I remember whole families having Atari COMBAT round-robin games going when I'd visit their houses. The parents, the older siblings, and even the GRANDPARENTS were playing Donkey Kong and Q*Bert. Atari sold something like 30 million consoles. That's hardly a niche product.

My dad's best friend bought a couple arcade cabinets in the late 1980s to go in his downstairs bar next to the air hockey and pinball machines he already owned. When my dad was a firefighter, the fire department rec room had a Colecovision hooked to an old TV, and the firefighters would pass time playing it.

Later, EVERYONE and I do mean EVERYBODY was playing Tetris on Game Boys and LCD devices (watches, etc.), and Super Mario on the NES.

Games were totally mainstream about 30 years ago. However, every generation it seems like some gamers want to be seen as unique, and they crave that whole "we're outsiders" thing. NO, games did not just recently become accepted. They've been accepted and part of popular American culture for a long time now, and the sense of entitlement from the "hardcore" gamers just makes my eyes roll.

And before video games, Americans were STILL heavily into arcade games. Pinball, coin-operated games of skill, love-testers, pachinko, peepshows (not sexual, but films watched through a viewer), etc.

The only games I know of that had and still have a "nerd" stigma attached to them are pen & paper role-playing games. The idea that video games were EVER "no friends/loner/weirdo" things is ridiculous. I've been playing video games since they were invented, and I never saw any such thing.

I think perhaps the only gamers who have ever been considered friendless loner weirdos are the obsessive, smelly, dirty, cheeto-stained, awkward fellas who would be friendless loner weirdos no matter what  hobby they embraced.
2013-12-18 10:01:13 PM  
1 votes:
I guess I was too busy playing video games to watch.
2013-12-18 08:54:30 PM  
1 votes:

RoxtarRyan: AdamK: i don't get why people complained about joel mchale... what, you think this trainwreck had merit? i don't get why people get so up in arms over the quality of the VGA's/VGX whatever if they don't like it anyways

Only recently has gaming been taken at all seriously in society. As recent as the late 90's and 00's, if you were a gamer, you had attached to you a stigma of "no friends/loner/weirdo". In the last few years, that has changed, with gaming becoming more mainstream, to the point where mom and dad are even likely to have Angry Birds or some other mobile app game installed on their smartphones. The last thing gaming needs is some jackass host and a shiatty production coming around, claiming to be the "biggest awards show" in gaming, actually getting that sort of attention due to publicity, then shiatting all over the genre. The host talking down to and mocking developers, gamers and the audience is not doing gamers as a whole any good, since being an awards show claiming to speak for a group of people, it reflects on the people it claims it is representing.

This was supposed to be an awards show meant to celebrate gaming, the community it creates, and the developers for hard work. The least they could have done is get a host who knows something about gaming (the guy pulled a Sarah Palin-esque answer to "what are you looking forward to playing for the new consoles" with a generic "oh, all of them, all of the games") or at least gave a shiat enough to show to at least do some homework before he walked on set.


i've been playing games since about 1990, i think this whole "help, i'm being oppressed!" thing coming from gamers is dumb... look, games are supposed to be fun and entertaining - whether you think entertaining is pac-man or Ico is pretty irrelevant to the overall type of past-time known as video games, they might as well be different shades of the same color given overall history of the industry

so the idea that we need some awards show to prop up our sense of seriousness just comes across as desperation... a video game show should be light-hearted and fun regardless of who it's aimed for because that's the nature of the thing it's about - and as it happens the types of people who play games on their phones would probably respond more to that sense of self-awareness than some kind of pretentious show that really isn't very good to begin with

besides all of that, man i remember the very first VGA with a bunch of wrestlers in masks in a ring fighting eachother randomly... i never pinned my hopes on that show to be something it isn't - spiketv shlock, if anything i'd rather they just go full-retard in the future
 
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