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(Polygon)   VGX was hated by 1.1 million people, which in TV terms translates to: 1.1 million people watched, let's do that some more   (polygon.com) divider line 42
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2013-12-18 05:04:01 PM
According to certain developer's logic 1.1 million haters translates to over nine-thousand-million happy customers, right Simcity's EA or X:Abortion's Egosoft?
 
2013-12-18 05:04:58 PM
This article mentions events and people that I'm wholly unfamiliar with.

As a gamer, I guess that means I win.
 
2013-12-18 05:22:30 PM
Needs more "Who gives a fark?" Joel McHale.
 
2013-12-18 05:22:41 PM
What is VGX?
 
2013-12-18 05:29:12 PM

lockers: What is VGX?


A video game award show that is mostly commercials, trailers for future video game releases, awkward looking skits and occasionally they give out an award.
 
2013-12-18 05:37:23 PM

Lumbar Puncture: lockers: What is VGX?

A video game award show that is mostly commercials, trailers for future video game releases, awkward looking skits and occasionally they give out an award.


That sounds.... boring.
 
2013-12-18 05:47:09 PM
The best part of VGX was seeing Jeff Winger, Joel McHale's disdain for the gaming industry and what it has become.
 
2013-12-18 05:54:21 PM

lockers: Lumbar Puncture: lockers: What is VGX?

A video game award show that is mostly commercials, trailers for future video game releases, awkward looking skits and occasionally they give out an award.

That sounds.... boring.


It is, unless you really like new trailers or something.
 
2013-12-18 06:04:38 PM
Well, did that many viewers tune in expecting a train wreck, or actually were intrigued?

If the first, then additional episodes will be ignored.  People only care to see the initial crash.

If the second, they can play with the formula until it becomes more palatable.
 
2013-12-18 06:04:40 PM
 
2013-12-18 06:04:54 PM
that guy in the top image, was he on TechTV?
 
2013-12-18 06:12:49 PM

Mike_LowELL: McHale was incredible.  It was transcendent.


He better host next year.
 
2013-12-18 06:23:37 PM

Mike_LowELL: McHale was incredible.  It was transcendent.


Was this real?
 
2013-12-18 06:27:26 PM
How do you piss off a music critic? Actually enjoy music.
 
2013-12-18 06:45:32 PM

Lumbar Puncture: He better host next year.

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Was this real?


I completely agree that McHale needs to do this thing every single year.  I have no idea who thought it was a good idea to make your guest host "the guy who shiats on the show because it costs fifty dollars to make an episode and he will point this out".  It was real, and it was spectacular.  Basically, every single person who came on the show probably assumed that they were getting unopposed airtime to propaganda their games in front of the Lord and Savior of the Dew (Geoff Keighley) and every guest just looked like deer in the headlights.  The best part was the announcement of the new voice actor in Broken Age, and Schaefer's reaction is probably one of the funniest things I have seen in a video game show ever.
 
2013-12-18 06:47:05 PM
This is the only video you need to see about VGX.


It was goddamn horrible. I could have hosted a better awards show from my living room and a couple bottles of Jameson.
 
2013-12-18 06:50:20 PM

Mike_LowELL: McHale was incredible.  It was transcendent.


My god, he really was fantastic.  Way to turn a trainwreck into comedy.
 
2013-12-18 06:56:10 PM

RoxtarRyan: This is the only video you need to see about VGX.


It was goddamn horrible. I could have hosted a better awards show from my living room and a couple bottles of Jameson.


and hookers and blackjack!
 
2013-12-18 07:00:15 PM
i don't get why people complained about joel mchale... what, you think this trainwreck had merit? i don't get why people get so up in arms over the quality of the VGA's/VGX whatever if they don't like it anyways
 
2013-12-18 07:55:50 PM

AdamK: i don't get why people complained about joel mchale... what, you think this trainwreck had merit? i don't get why people get so up in arms over the quality of the VGA's/VGX whatever if they don't like it anyways


Only recently has gaming been taken at all seriously in society. As recent as the late 90's and 00's, if you were a gamer, you had attached to you a stigma of "no friends/loner/weirdo". In the last few years, that has changed, with gaming becoming more mainstream, to the point where mom and dad are even likely to have Angry Birds or some other mobile app game installed on their smartphones. The last thing gaming needs is some jackass host and a shiatty production coming around, claiming to be the "biggest awards show" in gaming, actually getting that sort of attention due to publicity, then shiatting all over the genre. The host talking down to and mocking developers, gamers and the audience is not doing gamers as a whole any good, since being an awards show claiming to speak for a group of people, it reflects on the people it claims it is representing.

This was supposed to be an awards show meant to celebrate gaming, the community it creates, and the developers for hard work. The least they could have done is get a host who knows something about gaming (the guy pulled a Sarah Palin-esque answer to "what are you looking forward to playing for the new consoles" with a generic "oh, all of them, all of the games") or at least gave a shiat enough to show to at least do some homework before he walked on set.
 
2013-12-18 07:58:21 PM

RoxtarRyan: or at least gave a shiat enough to show to at least do some homework before he walked on set.


FTFM.
 
2013-12-18 08:04:55 PM
I look forward to season 5 community coming back in a few weeks
 
2013-12-18 08:05:49 PM

Mike_LowELL: McHale was incredible.  It was transcendent.


Actually looks like he was calling the whole thing the bullshiat it apparently was.

/After watching that, do we really have to wonder why video games aren't taken seriously?
 
2013-12-18 08:16:49 PM

YodaBlues: Mike_LowELL: McHale was incredible.  It was transcendent.

Actually looks like he was calling the whole thing the bullshiat it apparently was.

/After watching that, do we really have to wonder why video games aren't taken seriously?


Believe me some people take them way too serious, but that's another concept.  On Cable TV though no one gives a rats ass including the gamers themselves.  These guys aren't Blizzard, they aren't offering some tournament style thing to watch and enjoy, they are trying to plunger commercials and using reallly realllllly farking amateur hour production values to do it.  Gamers don't care about broadcast TV, I didn't even know about this VTD-X crap until this thread for instance.  Mock mock mock :)  The dinosaur media won't take this avenue seriously and that's okay, we were never their market in the first place and at least I can credit them for knowing the same.
 
2013-12-18 08:18:09 PM

RoxtarRyan: AdamK: i don't get why people complained about joel mchale... what, you think this trainwreck had merit? i don't get why people get so up in arms over the quality of the VGA's/VGX whatever if they don't like it anyways

Only recently has gaming been taken at all seriously in society. As recent as the late 90's and 00's, if you were a gamer, you had attached to you a stigma of "no friends/loner/weirdo". In the last few years, that has changed, with gaming becoming more mainstream, to the point where mom and dad are even likely to have Angry Birds or some other mobile app game installed on their smartphones. The last thing gaming needs is some jackass host and a shiatty production coming around, claiming to be the "biggest awards show" in gaming, actually getting that sort of attention due to publicity, then shiatting all over the genre. The host talking down to and mocking developers, gamers and the audience is not doing gamers as a whole any good, since being an awards show claiming to speak for a group of people, it reflects on the people it claims it is representing.

This was supposed to be an awards show meant to celebrate gaming, the community it creates, and the developers for hard work. The least they could have done is get a host who knows something about gaming (the guy pulled a Sarah Palin-esque answer to "what are you looking forward to playing for the new consoles" with a generic "oh, all of them, all of the games") or at least gave a shiat enough to show to at least do some homework before he walked on set.


You didn't see the show was a big steamy dump that it was? Joel McHale mocking the production values and disrupting the presenters game-pimping was the only enjoyable part of the show. Sure gamers and the gaming community should have some publicity, but that's what PAX, Blizzcon, E3 and etc are for. This show was garbage, and the host knew it, and did exactly what he was supposed to do, make it at least somewhat enjoyable to watch.
 
2013-12-18 08:29:47 PM

RoxtarRyan: AdamK: i don't get why people complained about joel mchale... what, you think this trainwreck had merit? i don't get why people get so up in arms over the quality of the VGA's/VGX whatever if they don't like it anyways

Only recently has gaming been taken at all seriously in society. As recent as the late 90's and 00's, if you were a gamer, you had attached to you a stigma of "no friends/loner/weirdo". In the last few years, that has changed, with gaming becoming more mainstream, to the point where mom and dad are even likely to have Angry Birds or some other mobile app game installed on their smartphones. The last thing gaming needs is some jackass host and a shiatty production coming around, claiming to be the "biggest awards show" in gaming, actually getting that sort of attention due to publicity, then shiatting all over the genre. The host talking down to and mocking developers, gamers and the audience is not doing gamers as a whole any good, since being an awards show claiming to speak for a group of people, it reflects on the people it claims it is representing.

This was supposed to be an awards show meant to celebrate gaming, the community it creates, and the developers for hard work. The least they could have done is get a host who knows something about gaming (the guy pulled a Sarah Palin-esque answer to "what are you looking forward to playing for the new consoles" with a generic "oh, all of them, all of the games") or at least gave a shiat enough to show to at least do some homework before he walked on set.


I think it's possible that the success of McFarlane's Oscars and Gervais' Golden Globes performances might be bringing about a change in the way things are done. Going away are the days of stroking egos, and arriving are the days of "roast" like ceremonies.

I have no doubt that someone over there knew this was what they would get. If you watch enough of Joel's work, you know snark is his thing. I think emulation of the Oscars and GGs was what they were after.
 
2013-12-18 08:54:30 PM

RoxtarRyan: AdamK: i don't get why people complained about joel mchale... what, you think this trainwreck had merit? i don't get why people get so up in arms over the quality of the VGA's/VGX whatever if they don't like it anyways

Only recently has gaming been taken at all seriously in society. As recent as the late 90's and 00's, if you were a gamer, you had attached to you a stigma of "no friends/loner/weirdo". In the last few years, that has changed, with gaming becoming more mainstream, to the point where mom and dad are even likely to have Angry Birds or some other mobile app game installed on their smartphones. The last thing gaming needs is some jackass host and a shiatty production coming around, claiming to be the "biggest awards show" in gaming, actually getting that sort of attention due to publicity, then shiatting all over the genre. The host talking down to and mocking developers, gamers and the audience is not doing gamers as a whole any good, since being an awards show claiming to speak for a group of people, it reflects on the people it claims it is representing.

This was supposed to be an awards show meant to celebrate gaming, the community it creates, and the developers for hard work. The least they could have done is get a host who knows something about gaming (the guy pulled a Sarah Palin-esque answer to "what are you looking forward to playing for the new consoles" with a generic "oh, all of them, all of the games") or at least gave a shiat enough to show to at least do some homework before he walked on set.


i've been playing games since about 1990, i think this whole "help, i'm being oppressed!" thing coming from gamers is dumb... look, games are supposed to be fun and entertaining - whether you think entertaining is pac-man or Ico is pretty irrelevant to the overall type of past-time known as video games, they might as well be different shades of the same color given overall history of the industry

so the idea that we need some awards show to prop up our sense of seriousness just comes across as desperation... a video game show should be light-hearted and fun regardless of who it's aimed for because that's the nature of the thing it's about - and as it happens the types of people who play games on their phones would probably respond more to that sense of self-awareness than some kind of pretentious show that really isn't very good to begin with

besides all of that, man i remember the very first VGA with a bunch of wrestlers in masks in a ring fighting eachother randomly... i never pinned my hopes on that show to be something it isn't - spiketv shlock, if anything i'd rather they just go full-retard in the future
 
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2013-12-18 09:41:27 PM

AdamK: a video game show should be light-hearted and fun regardless of who it's aimed for because that's the nature of the thing it's about


Go play "To the Moon"
 
2013-12-18 09:56:33 PM
Lumbar Puncture: It is, unless you really like new trailers or something.

I stopped going to the E3 when I came to the realization that on the 360 and PS3, that I could just download the videos and demos for games that I wanted to see/play, without having to drive in LA convention traffic AND pay ridiculously inflated parking prices.

// somewhere in my photo archive at home, I have a shot from maybe 7 years ago of a sign advertising $50/day parking right across from the convention center (I think this was the lot off Cameron), whereas 4 blocks away, you could park for $25 for the day (across from the staples center).
 
2013-12-18 09:58:06 PM
 
2013-12-18 10:01:13 PM
I guess I was too busy playing video games to watch.
 
2013-12-18 10:35:02 PM
I can't believe they awarded Gone Home as the best PC Game of the year.

Absolutely disgusting.
 
2013-12-18 10:41:29 PM
Yes, because what I want to watch is a bunch of pasty, middle-aged and 30-something white guys with neckbeards and bald spots talking about video games. That's SO much better than turning off the show and PLAYING A VIDEO GAME, instead.

I hate awards shows. I seriously dislike "gamer culture" (and I've been a gamer since the 1970s) because it's so goddamn bland and fratboyish. Why in the HELL would I want to watch an amalgam of the two?

The Spike VGAs were embarrassing to the extreme. This show didn't even get on my radar, and now that I know about it, all I can think of is that it's yet another attempt to get gamers to watch shows about gaming instead of actually gaming... And all I can ask is "WHY?"
 
2013-12-18 10:55:34 PM

Mike_LowELL: McHale was incredible.  It was transcendent.


Well, now... having watched that, I can say McHale was the only good thing about the show, and that I felt his pain.

You know what's NOT a good idea? Making an awards show in which the honorees and guests are mostly pasty, awkward coder nerds and pasty, awkward tech marketers and CEOs. I may like to play games by Nintendo, but I certainly do not want to watch Reggie trying to be hip and cool.

There's a reason we don't ever actually see the technical awards in the Grammies, Tonys, and Oscars on television... The technical nerds are not very photogenic, charismatic, glamorous, well-spoken, or even interesting when you put them on the spot in front of an audience. They're greatly skilled and talented people, but they're NOT actors; They're technicians for a reason.

We shouldn't have televised video game awards for the same reason we shouldn't have the Plumber Of The Year awards on television.
 
2013-12-18 10:56:10 PM

Big Merl: I guess I was too busy playing video games to watch.


EXACTLY.

How do they not  get this?
 
2013-12-18 11:16:31 PM

lockers: Lumbar Puncture: lockers: What is VGX?

A video game award show that is mostly commercials, trailers for future video game releases, awkward looking skits and occasionally they give out an award.

That sounds.... boring.


That sounds like every. Single. Awards show.

/obviously did not watch
//did not care
///The awards are as valid as critics and reviews
\\\that means as valid as 'did the check clear' and 'how much was it'
 
2013-12-18 11:17:19 PM

RoxtarRyan: Only recently has gaming been taken at all seriously in society. As recent as the late 90's and 00's, if you were a gamer, you had attached to you a stigma of "no friends/loner/weirdo". In the last few years, that has changed, with gaming becoming more mainstream, to the point where mom and dad are even likely to have Angry Birds or some other mobile app game installed on their smartphones.


Gods, this is such bullshiat.  Video games have been mainstream since the late 1970s. We actually had a fad called "Pac Man Fever" with a song, cartoons, t-shirts, etc. We had cocktail arcade games in every bar and Pizza Hut in the country, and EVERYONE played them, from Space Invaders to Galaga. I bet you can't find many women between the ages of 30 and 50 who haven't played Centipede. We had arcades and mini-arcades in every movie theater, mall, strip mall, and even department stores in the 1980s, and again, everyone played them.

We had home consoles since the 1970s, and it wasn't just kids or weirdos buying and playing them. When I was 10 years old, I remember whole families having Atari COMBAT round-robin games going when I'd visit their houses. The parents, the older siblings, and even the GRANDPARENTS were playing Donkey Kong and Q*Bert. Atari sold something like 30 million consoles. That's hardly a niche product.

My dad's best friend bought a couple arcade cabinets in the late 1980s to go in his downstairs bar next to the air hockey and pinball machines he already owned. When my dad was a firefighter, the fire department rec room had a Colecovision hooked to an old TV, and the firefighters would pass time playing it.

Later, EVERYONE and I do mean EVERYBODY was playing Tetris on Game Boys and LCD devices (watches, etc.), and Super Mario on the NES.

Games were totally mainstream about 30 years ago. However, every generation it seems like some gamers want to be seen as unique, and they crave that whole "we're outsiders" thing. NO, games did not just recently become accepted. They've been accepted and part of popular American culture for a long time now, and the sense of entitlement from the "hardcore" gamers just makes my eyes roll.

And before video games, Americans were STILL heavily into arcade games. Pinball, coin-operated games of skill, love-testers, pachinko, peepshows (not sexual, but films watched through a viewer), etc.

The only games I know of that had and still have a "nerd" stigma attached to them are pen & paper role-playing games. The idea that video games were EVER "no friends/loner/weirdo" things is ridiculous. I've been playing video games since they were invented, and I never saw any such thing.

I think perhaps the only gamers who have ever been considered friendless loner weirdos are the obsessive, smelly, dirty, cheeto-stained, awkward fellas who would be friendless loner weirdos no matter what  hobby they embraced.
 
2013-12-18 11:29:18 PM

ZeroCorpse: I think perhaps the only gamers who have ever been considered friendless loner weirdos are the obsessive, smelly, dirty, cheeto-stained, awkward fellas who would be friendless loner weirdos no matter what hobby they embraced


Hey now, I'm not dirty.
 
2013-12-18 11:42:56 PM

ZeroCorpse: RoxtarRyan: Only recently has gaming been taken at all seriously in society. As recent as the late 90's and 00's, if you were a gamer, you had attached to you a stigma of "no friends/loner/weirdo". In the last few years, that has changed, with gaming becoming more mainstream, to the point where mom and dad are even likely to have Angry Birds or some other mobile app game installed on their smartphones.

Gods, this is such bullshiat.  Video games have been mainstream since the late 1970s. We actually had a fad called "Pac Man Fever" with a song, cartoons, t-shirts, etc. We had cocktail arcade games in every bar and Pizza Hut in the country, and EVERYONE played them, from Space Invaders to Galaga. I bet you can't find many women between the ages of 30 and 50 who haven't played Centipede. We had arcades and mini-arcades in every movie theater, mall, strip mall, and even department stores in the 1980s, and again, everyone played them.

We had home consoles since the 1970s, and it wasn't just kids or weirdos buying and playing them. When I was 10 years old, I remember whole families having Atari COMBAT round-robin games going when I'd visit their houses. The parents, the older siblings, and even the GRANDPARENTS were playing Donkey Kong and Q*Bert. Atari sold something like 30 million consoles. That's hardly a niche product.

My dad's best friend bought a couple arcade cabinets in the late 1980s to go in his downstairs bar next to the air hockey and pinball machines he already owned. When my dad was a firefighter, the fire department rec room had a Colecovision hooked to an old TV, and the firefighters would pass time playing it.

Later, EVERYONE and I do mean EVERYBODY was playing Tetris on Game Boys and LCD devices (watches, etc.), and Super Mario on the NES.

Games were totally mainstream about 30 years ago. However, every generation it seems like some gamers want to be seen as unique, and they crave that whole "we're outsiders" thing. NO, games did not just recently ...


You know I farkin' hate it when I agree with you, right?  Asshole.
 
2013-12-19 01:24:18 AM

ZeroCorpse: Gods, this is such bullshiat.


Well, the thing is, ever since the start of peak arcade gaming in the 70's, there has been a massive push against gaming by conservative (as in ideals, not politics) groups, publishing "studies" attempting to link video games to violence and a rebel culture, going so far as to having a 60 Minutes special on the topic sometime around then. When video games started making their way into homes via consoles, it provided fuel for the fire for the "video games are causing our kids to be introverts" mentality.

Especially in the 90's and 2000's did the push against the gaming culture really start to flourish, with Senators actually taking the time and conducting hearings on the seemingly negative effects and culture that gaming is said to embrace, and books being written by people as recent as the 00's attempting to link video games to violence. And lest we forget the 60 Minutes coverage stating that Dungeons and Dragons was causing kids to commit suicide, as well as other PSA's trying to link D&D and gaming to satanism, violence and drugs. The majority of the press, books and publicity against video games peaked in the late 90's and 00's, with people attempting to use it as a scapegoat for tragedies such as the Westside Middle School Massacre and Columbine in the late 90's.

You and I both agree that every generation has the need to feel unique in their own way, but problem is that gaming in its current form (tabletop/arcade/console) hasn't been around long enough where we can sit back and judge 50 or 100 years of evidence to see the societal feedback on it, so we can't sit there and say every generation of gamers feels that they have somehow been wronged by the general public. But even though yes, gaming culture has been in existence since the 70's, there is no denial that the culture, generally, hasn't seen a negative feedback on it as great as there was until the 90's and 00's, and that we are now seeing change in the last five or so. So while gaming may have been taken seriously when it first really took hold in the 70's and 80's, there was a time in recent history where there was a lot of publicity, a lot of attention, and a lot of money thrown against the culture. I did a whole lot of research on this for a paper I did a few years ago, and I don't recall seeing any evidence of Senators or 60 Minutes paying much mind to Pac-Man and Donkey Kong, attempting to link it to murders, drugs and religious practices. While there was a little negative feedback, there was nothing that could compare to the later decades.

So, when the gaming culture is just getting to the point where it is able to stand on its own and not be looked down upon because of a bunch of false statistics (that are still being fought against to this day), media organization agendas and others who wish to benefit from the trend of "video games lead to rebellious actions" publicity, why should gamers sit back and allow an organization such as this to speak for them? Best case scenario, no one pays it any attention because it was shiat. Worst case scenario, people will think that this is what the culture expects and endorses, an acceptance of ignorance, disrespect to the creators and lack of enthusiasm for what really is something that be used a phenomenal form of art and storytelling.
 
2013-12-19 06:36:39 AM

ZeroCorpse: I think perhaps the only gamers who have ever been considered friendless loner weirdos are the obsessive, smelly, dirty, cheeto-stained, awkward fellas who would be friendless loner weirdos no matter what hobby they embraced.


Oye!  I resemble that remark!  Also buddy those are not cheeto stains, its mustard.

/also wouldn't be surprised if someone higher up the network's food chain sabotaged this thing, the tv networks have a vested interest in trying to get us back to watching them in the evening rather then virtually teabagging one another
 
2013-12-19 05:17:54 PM

BumpInTheNight: ZeroCorpse: I think perhaps the only gamers who have ever been considered friendless loner weirdos are the obsessive, smelly, dirty, cheeto-stained, awkward fellas who would be friendless loner weirdos no matter what hobby they embraced.

Oye!  I resemble that remark!  Also buddy those are not cheeto stains, its mustard.

/also wouldn't be surprised if someone higher up the network's food chain sabotaged this thing, the tv networks have a vested interest in trying to get us back to watching them in the evening rather then virtually teabagging one another


I just favorited everyone involved in this tread.
 
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