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(USA Today)   Man exonerated by DNA in '94 murder. The other 93 murders still matter though   (usatoday.com) divider line 34
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2013-12-18 11:14:19 AM
Wat.
 
2013-12-18 11:15:55 AM
Honestly surprised the prosecutor didn't fight it more.

"Fine, he had an accomplice who was the real biter!"
 
2013-12-18 11:16:18 AM
He probably did something bad enough back then to warrant 20 years in prison.  He just didn't get caught.  If I learned anything from Law and Order, the police and prosecutors never catch and convict the wrong guy.
 
2013-12-18 11:16:18 AM
Maybe someone else raped and murdered a girl in 1994?
 
2013-12-18 11:16:48 AM
Let me guess....he's black
/DNRTFA
//I don't need to
 
2013-12-18 11:17:39 AM

Prey4reign: He probably did something bad enough back then to warrant 20 years in prison.  He just didn't get caught.  If I learned anything from Law and Order, the police and prosecutors never catch and convict the wrong guy.


Perhaps you missed the ten or so episodes when McCoy did get the wrong guy and then had to either get them out of prison or find a way to trick a confession out of the real killer in the last ten minutes.
 
2013-12-18 11:18:15 AM
In before the "well, we still need the death penalty because you can't make an omlette...." crowd
 
2013-12-18 11:24:01 AM
The man seems surprising magnanimous for someone who was robbed of much of his life; the rearing of his children; the births of grandchildren et al.
 
2013-12-18 11:24:57 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Prey4reign: He probably did something bad enough back then to warrant 20 years in prison.  He just didn't get caught.  If I learned anything from Law and Order, the police and prosecutors never catch and convict the wrong guy.

Perhaps you missed the ten or so episodes when McCoy did get the wrong guy and then had to either get them out of prison or find a way to trick a confession out of the real killer in the last ten minutes.


That loud roar you heard right before you posted was my point going right over your head.
 
2013-12-18 11:27:54 AM

EdNortonsTwin: The man seems surprising magnanimous for someone who was robbed of much of his life; the rearing of his children; the births of grandchildren et al.


Yeah... I was wondering if he gets any compensation for having 20 years of his life stolen. I'm doubtful though.
 
2013-12-18 11:28:20 AM
...a state Superior Court judge agreed to overturn his 1995 conviction and 30-year prison sentence and free him on $5,000 bail.

But on Tuesday he was able to go home to his family with no charges hanging over his head.


If he now faces no charges, why is a bail required?
 
2013-12-18 11:29:03 AM

Keeve: ...a state Superior Court judge agreed to overturn his 1995 conviction and 30-year prison sentence and free him on $5,000 bail.

But on Tuesday he was able to go home to his family with no charges hanging over his head.

If he now faces no charges, why is a bail required?


caught that, huh?
Being free while black
 
2013-12-18 11:29:17 AM

EdNortonsTwin: The man seems surprising magnanimous for someone who was robbed of much of his life; the rearing of his children; the births of grandchildren et al.


I'd play it that way, too. Then that very night, i would hunt down the family of the lawyers who did this to me.

But i would not kill the lawyers, no. I would kill their loved ones, make them watch, and let them live the rest of their lives with the loss.
 
2013-12-18 11:30:19 AM

pueblonative: In before the "well, we still need the death penalty because you can't make an omlette...." crowd


Using the electric chair to make an omelet seems a tad extreme
 
2013-12-18 11:33:22 AM

Prey4reign: He probably did something bad enough back then to warrant 20 years in prison.  He just didn't get caught.  If I learned anything from Law and Order, the police and prosecutors never catch and convict the wrong guy.


WRONG! Elliott convicted the wrong dude. Lol I know couldn't resist though.
 
2013-12-18 11:35:31 AM

Keeve: ...a state Superior Court judge agreed to overturn his 1995 conviction and 30-year prison sentence and free him on $5,000 bail.

But on Tuesday he was able to go home to his family with no charges hanging over his head.

If he now faces no charges, why is a bail required?


I think he was previously released on bail, and now the judge is releasing him from that requirement. I think.
 
2013-12-18 11:37:13 AM

vudukungfu: Keeve: ...a state Superior Court judge agreed to overturn his 1995 conviction and 30-year prison sentence and free him on $5,000 bail.

But on Tuesday he was able to go home to his family with no charges hanging over his head.

If he now faces no charges, why is a bail required?

caught that, huh?
Being free while black


Richardson, 48, was given his first taste of freedom in October, when a state Superior Court judge agreed to overturn his 1995 conviction and 30-year prison sentence and free him on $5,000 bail.  Paid 5G in October. English motherfarker... do you read it!
 
2013-12-18 11:37:26 AM
Damn. Now I want some eggs...
 
2013-12-18 11:41:58 AM

Prey4reign: Satanic_Hamster: Prey4reign: He probably did something bad enough back then to warrant 20 years in prison.  He just didn't get caught.  If I learned anything from Law and Order, the police and prosecutors never catch and convict the wrong guy.

Perhaps you missed the ten or so episodes when McCoy did get the wrong guy and then had to either get them out of prison or find a way to trick a confession out of the real killer in the last ten minutes.

That loud roar you heard right before you posted was my point going right over your head.


Your mom went over my head.
 
2013-12-18 11:43:05 AM

Prey4reign: Satanic_Hamster: Prey4reign: He probably did something bad enough back then to warrant 20 years in prison.  He just didn't get caught.  If I learned anything from Law and Order, the police and prosecutors never catch and convict the wrong guy.

Perhaps you missed the ten or so episodes when McCoy did get the wrong guy and then had to either get them out of prison or find a way to trick a confession out of the real killer in the last ten minutes.

That loud roar you heard right before you posted was my point going right over your head.



Yes but some of these guys that get exonerated weren't just random suspects.  They came under suspicion because they have a record for committing violent crimes.  So while no one should have to serve time for a crime he didn't commit, I always reserve celebratory feelings in these cases until I find out a little more about the person's past.
 
2013-12-18 11:47:39 AM

Keeve: ...a state Superior Court judge agreed to overturn his 1995 conviction and 30-year prison sentence and free him on $5,000 bail.

But on Tuesday he was able to go home to his family with no charges hanging over his head.

If he now faces no charges, why is a bail required?


Re-read that, it took me 2 or 3 times... He had the $5,000 bail in October(When he was initially released), NOW he's free and clear. It's written badly, which is a total shocker.
 
2013-12-18 11:49:54 AM
And THIS, people , is why we don't just assume that everyone who gets arrested is guilty. Hell, we like to convict people who don't even get charged with a crime. This dude got arrested, charged AND convicted, and he's still not guilty. I now it seems to suck that there is such a long appeals process, but this is an example of why it happens.
 
2013-12-18 11:55:23 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Honestly surprised the prosecutor didn't fight it more.

"Fine, he had an accomplice who was the real biter!"


I remember a Dateline or 24 Hours about a guy fighting his conviction. At the original trial the defense wanted to argue there was a second person, but the state got the judge to disallow that. When DNA testing was done a decade later and it wasn't his, the prosecutors argued there was an accomplice. And people make fun of the idea of Papal Infallibility.

/He got released.
 
2013-12-18 11:58:42 AM
Well, his real problems are just beginning.

makeameme.org
 
2013-12-18 12:05:44 PM

pueblonative: In before the "well, we still need the death penalty because you can't make an omlette...." crowd


Jeez, man. I can make 'em scrambled, deviled, over-easy, sunny-side, poached, coddled, or hard-boiled. You're going to tell me we need a death penalty because I can't make an omelette? To the chair with you.
 
2013-12-18 01:44:36 PM
Now that the man jailed for a murder in 1994 is free, he can dedicate his life to finding the real killers.
 
2013-12-18 01:47:11 PM
You may remember Barry Scheck from the O J trial.  He is the one who got O J off with his questions to the jury about where was all the blood that O J would have had on him from the murder.  The glove was very bloody but there was only a tiny speck in O J's car.  Right then I said "Oh-Oh! he's getting off."  It gave me reasonable doubt even though I* thought that O J had done it.
BTW I think the glove didn't fit because a, it was stiff from all the blood; and b, it shrank from being soaked.
 
2013-12-18 02:08:58 PM

DrewCurtisJr: Prey4reign: Satanic_Hamster: Prey4reign: He probably did something bad enough back then to warrant 20 years in prison.  He just didn't get caught.  If I learned anything from Law and Order, the police and prosecutors never catch and convict the wrong guy.

Perhaps you missed the ten or so episodes when McCoy did get the wrong guy and then had to either get them out of prison or find a way to trick a confession out of the real killer in the last ten minutes.

That loud roar you heard right before you posted was my point going right over your head.


Yes but some of these guys that get exonerated weren't just random suspects.  They came under suspicion because they have a record for committing violent crimes.  So while no one should have to serve time for a crime he didn't commit, I always reserve celebratory feelings in these cases until I find out a little more about the person's past.


It's wise to be cautious. There was a celebrated rape case where a guy was released from prison after serving something like 13 years for a rape he didn't commit. He and the accuser even went on television interviews and hugged. Anyway, he ended up later raping and killing a girl with the help of his nephew. So he was a bad guy even though he didn't commit the rape he was imprisoned for, and that 13 years kept him from committing more crimes during that time.

Still, I think there should be a DNA review of all prisoners where DNA is available. I know that's an impossible wish, but it should be done. I don't think the 700 people that the Innocence Project has freed are the only ones.
 
2013-12-18 02:28:55 PM
How could you not be bitter at losing 20 years of your life?

My hatred at that point would be so massive as to defy description.

Now, I am not suggesting that we imprison the individuals responsible for placing an innocent man in prison.  However this man lost 20 years of his life that simply cannot be replaced.  In point of fact, he not only lost them, but he was placed in prison, where instead of simply having nothing to show for 20 years of his life, he has instead a nightmare.  How do you place a value on that?  If this had happened to me, I would be requesting 20 years of back wages (based on my salary when I was wrongfully imprisoned), adjusted by the same % in terms of raises/inflation that the DA/Judge received.
 
2013-12-18 03:27:50 PM

Jahx: How could you not be bitter at losing 20 years of your life?

My hatred at that point would be so massive as to defy description.

Now, I am not suggesting that we imprison the individuals responsible for placing an innocent man in prison.  However this man lost 20 years of his life that simply cannot be replaced.  In point of fact, he not only lost them, but he was placed in prison, where instead of simply having nothing to show for 20 years of his life, he has instead a nightmare.  How do you place a value on that?  If this had happened to me, I would be requesting 20 years of back wages (based on my salary when I was wrongfully imprisoned), adjusted by the same % in terms of raises/inflation that the DA/Judge received.


I like the cut of your jib, but not only should he get those 20 years back, he should get an annual salary on top of that, because who's going to hire someone that doesn't have a work record of the last 20 years (wrongfully imprisoned or not)?
 
2013-12-18 03:50:22 PM

pueblonative: In before the "well, we still need the death penalty because you can't make an omlette...." crowd

Psst...

you do know some of us only call for the death penalty when it's actually appropriate, right? Like when the person is guilty of murdering innocent people, & it's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. F*** all this "we need the death penalty to scare criminals straight" bulls***. You call for the death penalty to punish a person when it suits the crime. That's it.
 
2013-12-18 05:51:10 PM

ubermensch: Maybe someone else raped and murdered a girl in 1994?


Are you suggesting that Glenn Beck might have done it again?

Has Glenn Beck denied raping and murdering a girl in 1994?  I think not.
 
2013-12-18 06:09:05 PM
Glenn Beck did wat now?
 
2013-12-18 09:32:46 PM

LemSkroob: EdNortonsTwin: The man seems surprising magnanimous for someone who was robbed of much of his life; the rearing of his children; the births of grandchildren et al.

I'd play it that way, too. Then that very night, i would hunt down the family of the lawyers who did this to me.

But i would not kill the lawyers, no. I would kill their loved ones, make them watch, and let them live the rest of their lives with the loss.


Striking at our hearts?

You don't know us very well :)

/attorney
 
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