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(UPI)   Iran unveils new advanced radar system they claim can spot drones, most likely from the columns of smoke from the burning rubble left over after a drone strike   (upi.com) divider line 46
    More: Unlikely, Iran, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Iran unveils, Ayatollah Khomeini, Fars News Agency, VHF, debris, Islamic Republic  
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2013-12-18 08:10:17 AM  
Why bother with drones when we can sell long range air to surface missiles to Israel?
 
2013-12-18 08:20:48 AM  
From TFA:  "The new radar does not emit radar waves and cannot be detected by the enemy, Fars said adding the radar is also known as the Silent Radar System."

Also know as, the radar doesn't exist.  It's a real life photoshop.
 
2013-12-18 08:48:29 AM  

labman: From TFA:  "The new radar does not emit radar waves and cannot be detected by the enemy, Fars said adding the radar is also known as the Silent Radar System."

Also know as, the radar doesn't exist.  It's a real life photoshop.



Honestly there are now radar sensors that are sensitive enough that they use the background radiation of the universe to map the atmosphere. It isn't a big step to lower the resolution to where you can see aircraft and even birds. I used to work on this equipment.

Looks like this. http://radiometrics.com/
 
2013-12-18 08:50:13 AM  
The radar doesn't emit radar waves? I have a great Cadillac DeVille at home that doesn't use gas. And you can't ride in it. And it's always barking. And the damn thing sh*ts in the living room sometimes. And it looks exactly like a schnoodle from the right angle. Stupid fluffy car.
 
2013-12-18 08:53:54 AM  
The Borg Queen will find a way to adapt to this technology.

She always does.
 
2013-12-18 08:57:14 AM  
Well, they do have one of our stealth drones, so this is what we get for shiatty security on our military hardware.
 
2013-12-18 08:57:48 AM  
The new radar does not emit radar waves and cannot be detected by the enemy, Fars said adding the radar is also known as the Silent Radar System.


/HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....GASP...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...THUD.

/So it must work on the same principal as your new "fighter" jet that cant fly, and is made out of fiberglass. You know, another "dream" weapon that you pulled out of your ass.
 
2013-12-18 08:58:19 AM  
i wonder if their radar can spot the coward in the cubical flying the drone from a location thousands of miles away??


probably not.
 
2013-12-18 09:03:22 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Why bother with drones when we can sell long range air to surface missiles to Israel?



sell??


Give.   we Give over 3 Billion per year to Israel for military hardware, etc.  but that is ok, its public money, not corporate money.

i've nothing against Jews.  i find believing in a being that does not exist entertaining. but Israel is not broke. they are not starving. why do we give them so much and expect nothing in return??


as if our Treasury is overflowing with cash.


last time i checked, giving people tax money was called welfare, according to the Republicans.


and don't use the 'well, we have to curb terrorism, and protecting Israel will help protect us.

underwear bombers don't threaten us.

but they do provide lots of excuses for setting up a police state in America.
 
2013-12-18 09:05:29 AM  

Linux_Yes: i wonder if their radar can spot the coward in the cubical flying the drone from a location thousands of miles away??


probably not.


1/10  you might get a few bites.
 
2013-12-18 09:06:27 AM  
The radar system called Arash operates on UHF, VHF and HF frequencies and will improve the country's ability to engage in electronic warfare

and

The new radar does not emit radar waves and cannot be detected by the enemy

That's amazing! An EW platform that doesn't actually emit anything. From whose rectum did this technology emit?
 
2013-12-18 09:06:37 AM  

buzzgoat: labman: From TFA:  "The new radar does not emit radar waves and cannot be detected by the enemy, Fars said adding the radar is also known as the Silent Radar System."

Also know as, the radar doesn't exist.  It's a real life photoshop.


Honestly there are now radar sensors that are sensitive enough that they use the background radiation of the universe to map the atmosphere. It isn't a big step to lower the resolution to where you can see aircraft and even birds. I used to work on this equipment.

Looks like this. http://radiometrics.com/


Cool. But fine tuning the resolution sounds strangely like CSI.
 
2013-12-18 09:06:52 AM  

Linux_Yes: i wonder if their radar can spot the coward in the cubical flying the drone from a location thousands of miles away??


probably not.


Yeah why take advantage of technology when you should be gallant enough to take on your adversary mano a mano in his terrorist ass country.

Thats truly the only noble way to fight wars.
 
2013-12-18 09:08:23 AM  
that's quite an interface:

cdn.ph.upi.com
which arabic script part turn on vs. off scanning/active radar emission?
 
2013-12-18 09:09:09 AM  
Radar? What is this? WWII? Just crowd-source a few thousand cameras with computer vision algorithms pointed at the sky. Filter out the false signals with some dudes with binoculars.
 
2013-12-18 09:27:27 AM  
They just bought a Creative Cloud membership
 
2013-12-18 09:30:18 AM  
If I'm not mistaken, the missile in the photo is a hawk. 50+ year old technology. Don't how how much good that wood be against a pretty stealthy drone.
 
2013-12-18 09:31:05 AM  
"General Achmed!  I see a drone!"
"What is it doing?"
"It appears to be dropping a bomb on us, sir!"
"Excellent work, Lieutenant!"
 
2013-12-18 09:46:19 AM  

utah dude: which arabic script part turn on vs. off scanning/active radar emission?


Which latin character part make sense vs nonsense post/Fark utah dude emission?
 
2013-12-18 09:51:16 AM  

RaceBoatDriver: buzzgoat: labman: From TFA:  "The new radar does not emit radar waves and cannot be detected by the enemy, Fars said adding the radar is also known as the Silent Radar System."

Also know as, the radar doesn't exist.  It's a real life photoshop.


Honestly there are now radar sensors that are sensitive enough that they use the background radiation of the universe to map the atmosphere. It isn't a big step to lower the resolution to where you can see aircraft and even birds. I used to work on this equipment.

Looks like this. http://radiometrics.com/

Cool. But fine tuning the resolution sounds strangely like CSI.


Well, considering that you have to be careful where you aim the receiver when you set it up so as to not include trees on distant hills in the data stream that is being processed by the computer to give you an interactive map of the atmosphere from 10k ft to the ionosphere, I think that a good computer scientist could write a code to translate the informaiton into a workable realtime radar display. And as these have no emitters, only receivers in them...

Ah, F*ck it, I'm an EW specialist. And it's almost time for me to go to bed.
Google background radiation and the different bands of radar that are confused by it.
 
2013-12-18 09:55:33 AM  

Linux_Yes: i wonder if their radar can spot the coward in the cubical flying the drone from a location thousands of miles away??


probably not.


Linux_Yes: IdBeCrazyIf: Why bother with drones when we can sell long range air to surface missiles to Israel?


sell??


Give.   we Give over 3 Billion per year to Israel for military hardware, etc.  but that is ok, its public money, not corporate money.

i've nothing against Jews.  i find believing in a being that does not exist entertaining. but Israel is not broke. they are not starving. why do we give them so much and expect nothing in return??


as if our Treasury is overflowing with cash.


last time i checked, giving people tax money was called welfare, according to the Republicans.


and don't use the 'well, we have to curb terrorism, and protecting Israel will help protect us.

underwear bombers don't threaten us.

but they do provide lots of excuses for setting up a police state in America.


fat, lazy, and disaffected is no way to go through life, son
 
2013-12-18 09:58:55 AM  

buzzgoat: RaceBoatDriver: buzzgoat: labman: From TFA:  "The new radar does not emit radar waves and cannot be detected by the enemy, Fars said adding the radar is also known as the Silent Radar System."

Also know as, the radar doesn't exist.  It's a real life photoshop.


Honestly there are now radar sensors that are sensitive enough that they use the background radiation of the universe to map the atmosphere. It isn't a big step to lower the resolution to where you can see aircraft and even birds. I used to work on this equipment.

Looks like this. http://radiometrics.com/

Cool. But fine tuning the resolution sounds strangely like CSI.

Well, considering that you have to be careful where you aim the receiver when you set it up so as to not include trees on distant hills in the data stream that is being processed by the computer to give you an interactive map of the atmosphere from 10k ft to the ionosphere, I think that a good computer scientist could write a code to translate the informaiton into a workable realtime radar display. And as these have no emitters, only receivers in them...

Ah, F*ck it, I'm an EW specialist. And it's almost time for me to go to bed.
Google background radiation and the different bands of radar that are confused by it.


That sounds really cool.  How does it work?  (small question, I know...)  How is range worked out?
 
2013-12-18 10:15:42 AM  

tonguedepressor: Linux_Yes: i wonder if their radar can spot the coward in the cubical flying the drone from a location thousands of miles away??


probably not.

Yeah why take advantage of technology when you should be gallant enough to take on your adversary mano a mano in his terrorist ass country.

Thats truly the only noble way to fight wars.



the only 'noble' way to fight a war is to be smart enough to be able to prevent them from having to be fought.

course, war is good for business, so why do that??

and its interesting how those who declare war (the CONgress, etc) don't have kids doing any dying.

the ones starting the wars let the little people's kids do the dying while their mice are at University getting blow jobs.


unless tanks are rolling down american streets, all wars are avoidable.

notice how the good ole' USA "news' media never mentioned anything about the ~200,000 iraqi civilians dead after we accidently invade the wrong nation.


i could go on and on.  you are still living in the Matrix, Neo.
 
2013-12-18 10:18:35 AM  
No problem, we just unveiled a new aircraft that is invisible to invisible radar
img23.imageshack.us
 
2013-12-18 10:18:52 AM  

johnny_vegas: Linux_Yes: i wonder if their radar can spot the coward in the cubical flying the drone from a location thousands of miles away??


probably not.

Linux_Yes: IdBeCrazyIf: Why bother with drones when we can sell long range air to surface missiles to Israel?


sell??


Give.   we Give over 3 Billion per year to Israel for military hardware, etc.  but that is ok, its public money, not corporate money.

i've nothing against Jews.  i find believing in a being that does not exist entertaining. but Israel is not broke. they are not starving. why do we give them so much and expect nothing in return??


as if our Treasury is overflowing with cash.


last time i checked, giving people tax money was called welfare, according to the Republicans.


and don't use the 'well, we have to curb terrorism, and protecting Israel will help protect us.

underwear bombers don't threaten us.

but they do provide lots of excuses for setting up a police state in America.

fat, lazy, and disaffected is no way to go through life, son



that's a good one, as i'm getting ready for my 1.5 hour workout i do 4 times per week.   i don't like doing it but i like to stay fit.  habit i guess.

but please, continue on with your fantasy.
 
2013-12-18 10:26:25 AM  
Uhh..... the common drones the US uses, most notably the "Reaper" and "Predator" drones aren't exactly invisible to standard radar to begin with, nor were they made to be. Now there is a drone being developed by Boeing that is so supposed to be stealthy.

Anyway, its just more Iranian BS again. It's kind of like seeing a slightly mentally retarded child with a huge dump in his pants stating: "I'm a real country now!"

Of course you are Iran, that's why we love you.
 
2013-12-18 10:26:57 AM  

lexnaturalis: The radar system called Arash operates on UHF, VHF and HF frequencies and will improve the country's ability to engage in electronic warfare

and

The new radar does not emit radar waves and cannot be detected by the enemy

That's amazing! An EW platform that doesn't actually emit anything. From whose rectum did this technology emit?


It could be simply a receiver that collects other transmissiins bounced off of aircrafts... only thing I can think of.
 
2013-12-18 10:28:08 AM  

Wicked Chinchilla: buzzgoat: RaceBoatDriver: buzzgoat: labman: From TFA:  "The new radar does not emit radar waves and cannot be detected by the enemy, Fars said adding the radar is also known as the Silent Radar System."

Also know as, the radar doesn't exist.  It's a real life photoshop.


Honestly there are now radar sensors that are sensitive enough that they use the background radiation of the universe to map the atmosphere. It isn't a big step to lower the resolution to where you can see aircraft and even birds. I used to work on this equipment.

Looks like this. http://radiometrics.com/

Cool. But fine tuning the resolution sounds strangely like CSI.

Well, considering that you have to be careful where you aim the receiver when you set it up so as to not include trees on distant hills in the data stream that is being processed by the computer to give you an interactive map of the atmosphere from 10k ft to the ionosphere, I think that a good computer scientist could write a code to translate the informaiton into a workable realtime radar display. And as these have no emitters, only receivers in them...

Ah, F*ck it, I'm an EW specialist. And it's almost time for me to go to bed.
Google background radiation and the different bands of radar that are confused by it.

That sounds really cool.  How does it work?  (small question, I know...)  How is range worked out?


Range can be worked out if you have two seperately spaced receivers.
 
2013-12-18 10:40:42 AM  
Make haste, folks... I think Linux_Yes has to be to the gym in 26 minutes!
 
2013-12-18 10:41:30 AM  
Since drones use the radio waves to send and receive instructions. With the fact we handed them our most advance steath drone. All the scientists have to do is see what is the sending and receiving frequencies are and develope a passive radar system to detect them.
 
2013-12-18 10:44:05 AM  

MyRandomName: Wicked Chinchilla: buzzgoat: RaceBoatDriver: buzzgoat: labman: From TFA:  "The new radar does not emit radar waves and cannot be detected by the enemy, Fars said adding the radar is also known as the Silent Radar System."

Also know as, the radar doesn't exist.  It's a real life photoshop.


Honestly there are now radar sensors that are sensitive enough that they use the background radiation of the universe to map the atmosphere. It isn't a big step to lower the resolution to where you can see aircraft and even birds. I used to work on this equipment.

Looks like this. http://radiometrics.com/

Cool. But fine tuning the resolution sounds strangely like CSI.

Well, considering that you have to be careful where you aim the receiver when you set it up so as to not include trees on distant hills in the data stream that is being processed by the computer to give you an interactive map of the atmosphere from 10k ft to the ionosphere, I think that a good computer scientist could write a code to translate the informaiton into a workable realtime radar display. And as these have no emitters, only receivers in them...

Ah, F*ck it, I'm an EW specialist. And it's almost time for me to go to bed.
Google background radiation and the different bands of radar that are confused by it.

That sounds really cool.  How does it work?  (small question, I know...)  How is range worked out?

Range can be worked out if you have two seperately spaced receivers.

I know that's part of one way to get a return off of some objects, but that still requires one emitter and the other radar site acts as the receiver.  Is it similar when using the background radiation as the emission?
 
2013-12-18 10:50:38 AM  
Aren't the majority of drones not even stealth?
 
2013-12-18 11:16:37 AM  
Pretty crappy choice of graphics accompanying the article.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is no longer the Iranian President.  He was in that 9-month-old stock photo you dug up, but he ain't today.
 
2013-12-18 11:19:42 AM  
The radar can also detect homosexuals with 100% accuracy - none in Iran!
 
2013-12-18 11:37:13 AM  
Bistatic Radar is a thing. You can look it up. The Russkies have been working on it since the F-117 was fielded at least.  Versions can use the radiation from cell towers and TV stations, or even an orbiting microwave source. Hell, a compact short-range version is in development that's using existing wifi.  You don't look for a return, so much as a "hole" suddenly appearing in the field where you had an even signal level before.

You can demonstrate this in a crude way if your home or office has a long, echoey corridor, with various doors along it.  You can tell just by realy careful listening, that the acoustic background of the hallway changes when a body enters it or a door opens and closes, and I'm not talking about squeeky hinges or shoes, just the ovreall "room tone" changes, perceptibly, beacause whatever air handler noise and resonance in that hallway there is, changes when something new gets in the way of some of the careening sound waves.
 
2013-12-18 12:08:14 PM  
i.telegraph.co.uk

Wonder if it was designed by the same guys who came up with this marvel of modern aviation?
 
2013-12-18 12:55:37 PM  

Any Pie Left: Bistatic Radar is a thing. You can look it up. The Russkies have been working on it since the F-117 was fielded at least.  Versions can use the radiation from cell towers and TV stations, or even an orbiting microwave source. Hell, a compact short-range version is in development that's using existing wifi.  You don't look for a return, so much as a "hole" suddenly appearing in the field where you had an even signal level before.

You can demonstrate this in a crude way if your home or office has a long, echoey corridor, with various doors along it.  You can tell just by realy careful listening, that the acoustic background of the hallway changes when a body enters it or a door opens and closes, and I'm not talking about squeeky hinges or shoes, just the ovreall "room tone" changes, perceptibly, beacause whatever air handler noise and resonance in that hallway there is, changes when something new gets in the way of some of the careening sound waves.


This is why you signal jam an area before you fly a drone over it, or you fly a jamming drone in the lead.
 
2013-12-18 01:19:21 PM  

Wicked Chinchilla: MyRandomName: Wicked Chinchilla: buzzgoat: RaceBoatDriver: buzzgoat: labman: From TFA:  "The new radar does not emit radar waves and cannot be detected by the enemy, Fars said adding the radar is also known as the Silent Radar System."

Also know as, the radar doesn't exist.  It's a real life photoshop.


Honestly there are now radar sensors that are sensitive enough that they use the background radiation of the universe to map the atmosphere. It isn't a big step to lower the resolution to where you can see aircraft and even birds. I used to work on this equipment.

Looks like this. http://radiometrics.com/

Cool. But fine tuning the resolution sounds strangely like CSI.

Well, considering that you have to be careful where you aim the receiver when you set it up so as to not include trees on distant hills in the data stream that is being processed by the computer to give you an interactive map of the atmosphere from 10k ft to the ionosphere, I think that a good computer scientist could write a code to translate the informaiton into a workable realtime radar display. And as these have no emitters, only receivers in them...

Ah, F*ck it, I'm an EW specialist. And it's almost time for me to go to bed.
Google background radiation and the different bands of radar that are confused by it.

That sounds really cool.  How does it work?  (small question, I know...)  How is range worked out?

Range can be worked out if you have two seperately spaced receivers.
I know that's part of one way to get a return off of some objects, but that still requires one emitter and the other radar site acts as the receiver.  Is it similar when using the background radiation as the emission?


Not sure if answered, but yes. This can be done, and is done, in fully passive systems. The space between receivers just needs to be greater than the apparent boresight error of each receiver.
 
2013-12-18 01:21:15 PM  

Wicked Chinchilla: MyRandomName: Wicked Chinchilla: buzzgoat: RaceBoatDriver: buzzgoat: labman: From TFA:  "The new radar does not emit radar waves and cannot be detected by the enemy, Fars said adding the radar is also known as the Silent Radar System."

Also know as, the radar doesn't exist.  It's a real life photoshop.


Honestly there are now radar sensors that are sensitive enough that they use the background radiation of the universe to map the atmosphere. It isn't a big step to lower the resolution to where you can see aircraft and even birds. I used to work on this equipment.

Looks like this. http://radiometrics.com/

Cool. But fine tuning the resolution sounds strangely like CSI.

Well, considering that you have to be careful where you aim the receiver when you set it up so as to not include trees on distant hills in the data stream that is being processed by the computer to give you an interactive map of the atmosphere from 10k ft to the ionosphere, I think that a good computer scientist could write a code to translate the informaiton into a workable realtime radar display. And as these have no emitters, only receivers in them...

Ah, F*ck it, I'm an EW specialist. And it's almost time for me to go to bed.
Google background radiation and the different bands of radar that are confused by it.

That sounds really cool.  How does it work?  (small question, I know...)  How is range worked out?

Range can be worked out if you have two seperately spaced receivers.
I know that's part of one way to get a return off of some objects, but that still requires one emitter and the other radar site acts as the receiver.  Is it similar when using the background radiation as the emission?


As an aside. Think of how many emitters there are in a standard area. Radio, tv, airports, cell phone towers. The days of needing an active transmitter are long gone.
 
2013-12-18 01:35:52 PM  

RaceBoatDriver: buzzgoat: labman: From TFA:  "The new radar does not emit radar waves and cannot be detected by the enemy, Fars said adding the radar is also known as the Silent Radar System."

Also know as, the radar doesn't exist.  It's a real life photoshop.


Honestly there are now radar sensors that are sensitive enough that they use the background radiation of the universe to map the atmosphere. It isn't a big step to lower the resolution to where you can see aircraft and even birds. I used to work on this equipment.

Looks like this. http://radiometrics.com/

Cool. But fine tuning the resolution sounds strangely like CSI.


img.fark.net
Approves
 
2013-12-18 01:51:30 PM  
ts3.mm.bing.net
`First look
 
2013-12-18 02:42:20 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: The new radar does not emit radar waves and cannot be detected by the enemy, Fars said adding the radar is also known as the Silent Radar System.


/HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....GASP...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...THUD.

/So it must work on the same principal as your new "fighter" jet that cant fly, and is made out of fiberglass. You know, another "dream" weapon that you pulled out of your ass.


Yes. It is known as "Silent, but Deadly".
 
2013-12-18 04:35:05 PM  
so its on a truck parked inside getting saluted ? with scaffolding that is attached to it ?
if it is outside then why the florescent tube lights reflected ?
 
2013-12-18 05:22:51 PM  
And once they detect the drones, they have that totally ass-kicking missile system to shoot them down:

img.fark.net
 
2013-12-18 05:25:34 PM  

MythDragon: No problem, we just unveiled a new aircraft that is invisible to invisible radar
[img23.imageshack.us image 800x571]


What the hell is that? Doesn't look like an F-35 from this angle
 
2013-12-18 08:14:53 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: MythDragon: No problem, we just unveiled a new aircraft that is invisible to invisible radar
[img23.imageshack.us image 800x571]

What the hell is that? Doesn't look like an F-35 from this angle


That is from the movie "Stealth"

Which is the best movie ever made that stars Josh Lucas, Jessica Biel, Jamie Foxx, and is about stealth fighters and a rouge AI.
 
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