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2013-12-17 07:49:30 PM
Chicken fried IN the butane? No thank you.
 
2013-12-17 08:01:00 PM
Makes sense. Especially for the audience they cater to. Let a bunch of conservative rednecks know you are changing their food to make it healthier, and they'll start screaming things like, "socialism!" and "hippies!" and "I'll decide what I put in my body!"

That last one always cracks me up. People want the right to eat and drink crap, but give a woman a right to choose what to do with her body, and they start screaming about baby Jesus or whatever.
 
2013-12-17 08:28:12 PM

kimwim: Chicken fried IN the butane? No thank you.


How do you fry chicken in a flammable gas?
 
2013-12-17 10:24:33 PM

HawgWild: Makes sense. Especially for the audience they cater to. Let a bunch of conservative rednecks know you are changing their food to make it healthier, and they'll start screaming things like, "socialism!" and "hippies!" and "I'll decide what I put in my body!"

That last one always cracks me up. People want the right to eat and drink crap, but give a woman a right to choose what to do with her body, and they start screaming about baby Jesus or whatever.


I was especially amused when right-wingers were derping about the FDA wanting to phase out trans-fats.  Trans-fats are disgusting.  They are used to make food cheap as hell to manufacture.  They do not add flavor at all to foods.  Food heavy in trans-fat is usually disgusting slop.

But because the Farbongo 0Bummer administration said it, they're all "iMA EATIN MAH TRANSFATS NOW, SUCK IT FARTBONGO"

/wishes Michelle Obama would launch a "Don't drink Drain-O" campaign soon
 
2013-12-17 11:12:36 PM
Callooh! Callay!'
Chick Fil A
will make you gay!
 
2013-12-17 11:17:43 PM

jake_lex: Trans-fats are disgusting.  They are used to make food cheap as hell to manufacture.  They do not add flavor at all to foods.  Food heavy in trans-fat is usually disgusting slop.


To people who can actually taste food, yes.  Most people eat heavy fats, salts, and sugars so much that their taste buds are numb to anything that doesn't drive some primitive taste response.  That may sound crazy to some but if one (assuming American here) were to significantly cut back their salt and fat intake for a month or two, they would be totally amazed at how good actual food tastes.
 
2013-12-17 11:36:34 PM

UberDave: jake_lex: Trans-fats are disgusting.  They are used to make food cheap as hell to manufacture.  They do not add flavor at all to foods.  Food heavy in trans-fat is usually disgusting slop.

To people who can actually taste food, yes.  Most people eat heavy fats, salts, and sugars so much that their taste buds are numb to anything that doesn't drive some primitive taste response.  That may sound crazy to some but if one (assuming American here) were to significantly cut back their salt and fat intake for a month or two, they would be totally amazed at how good actual food tastes.


yeah but try eating a frosted cupcake after that and you'll cry.
 
2013-12-17 11:58:22 PM

jake_lex: I was especially amused when right-wingers were derping about the FDA wanting to phase out trans-fats.  Trans-fats are disgusting.  They are used to make food cheap as hell to manufacture.  They do not add flavor at all to foods.  Food heavy in trans-fat is usually disgusting slop.


All true, but transfats really add to shelf life and texture for industrial foods.  Make a batch of chocolate chip cookies with Crisco vs butter, and you'll see what I mean a few days after you bake them.  The Crisco ones are farking immortal vampire cookies even weeks later.  Lard or beef tallow is as close as you can get, but even those cookies will go bad faster than the transfat ones.
 
2013-12-18 12:13:39 AM
Won't eat Jebus hate chicken, even if it weren't treif.
 
2013-12-18 12:14:36 AM
Pollos Hermanos?
 
2013-12-18 12:16:36 AM

Bonzo_1116: jake_lex: I was especially amused when right-wingers were derping about the FDA wanting to phase out trans-fats.  Trans-fats are disgusting.  They are used to make food cheap as hell to manufacture.  They do not add flavor at all to foods.  Food heavy in trans-fat is usually disgusting slop.

All true, but transfats really add to shelf life and texture for industrial foods.  Make a batch of chocolate chip cookies with Crisco vs butter, and you'll see what I mean a few days after you bake them.  The Crisco ones are farking immortal vampire cookies even weeks later.  Lard or beef tallow is as close as you can get, but even those cookies will go bad faster than the transfat ones.


Or you could, you know, mix your batter, form your cookies between sheets of parchment paper, bag and freeze them, then bake fresh when and as needed and not put that crap in your body...

/Just a thought.
//Owned a bakery.
 
2013-12-18 12:30:28 AM

demaL-demaL-yeH: Bonzo_1116: jake_lex: I was especially amused when right-wingers were derping about the FDA wanting to phase out trans-fats.  Trans-fats are disgusting.  They are used to make food cheap as hell to manufacture.  They do not add flavor at all to foods.  Food heavy in trans-fat is usually disgusting slop.

All true, but transfats really add to shelf life and texture for industrial foods.  Make a batch of chocolate chip cookies with Crisco vs butter, and you'll see what I mean a few days after you bake them.  The Crisco ones are farking immortal vampire cookies even weeks later.  Lard or beef tallow is as close as you can get, but even those cookies will go bad faster than the transfat ones.

Or you could, you know, mix your batter, form your cookies between sheets of parchment paper, bag and freeze them, then bake fresh when and as needed and not put that crap in your body...

/Just a thought.
//Owned a bakery.


Well, of course that would be more delicious and less nasty.  But if you want to truck baked goods all over creation and have them languish on shelves for weeks or months transfats are the cheap way to go.

The sad fact is, most folks get their cookies at the grocery store.  Maybe the trend away from transfats will push more people into higher quality treats.
 
2013-12-18 02:02:29 AM

HawgWild: Makes sense. Especially for the audience they cater to. Let a bunch of conservative rednecks know you are changing their food to make it healthier, and they'll start screaming things like, "socialism!" and "hippies!" and "I'll decide what I put in my body!"

That last one always cracks me up. People want the right to eat and drink crap, but give a woman a right to choose what to do with her body, and they start screaming about baby Jesus or whatever.


I don't know about the "audience".  Here in CA it's full of young urbanites who care about that stuff, just like Chipotle.
 
2013-12-18 02:47:06 AM
Chik-Fil-A is a chicken sandwich chain, not a fried chicken franchise. There are no bones and no skin.
 
2013-12-18 02:48:02 AM

bhcompy: HawgWild: Makes sense. Especially for the audience they cater to. Let a bunch of conservative rednecks know you are changing their food to make it healthier, and they'll start screaming things like, "socialism!" and "hippies!" and "I'll decide what I put in my body!"

That last one always cracks me up. People want the right to eat and drink crap, but give a woman a right to choose what to do with her body, and they start screaming about baby Jesus or whatever.

I don't know about the "audience".  Here in CA it's full of young urbanites who care about that stuff, just like Chipotle.


I should have qualified my statement with, "Here in the south". My bad.
 
2013-12-18 03:38:28 AM
I love their stuff.

I just don't like their company very much.
 
2013-12-18 03:40:16 AM
What is it with fast food restaurant chains and wing-nuttier anyways?  Is it something they put into their own food?
 
2013-12-18 04:46:45 AM
I wouldn't characterize those minor changes as "going healthy."
 
2013-12-18 04:52:18 AM
I've seen this article a couple of times now. For a company being hush-hush about something they sure are blabbing about it. Smells more like a stealth marketing campaign to me.
 
2013-12-18 06:53:35 AM

HawgWild: Makes sense. Especially for the audience they cater to. Let a bunch of conservative rednecks know you are changing their food to make it healthier, and they'll start screaming things like, "socialism!" and "hippies!" and "I'll decide what I put in my body!"

That last one always cracks me up. People want the right to eat and drink crap, but give a woman a right to choose what to do with her body, and they start screaming about baby Jesus or whatever.


Yeah, those things are exactly alike, what an apt comparison.
 
2013-12-18 07:00:55 AM
Most overrated restaurant  ever. Followed closely by in-and-out
 
2013-12-18 08:14:46 AM

abhorrent1: Most overrated restaurant  ever. Followed closely by in-and-out


In-And-Out USED to be good, at least.
 
2013-12-18 08:47:48 AM
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Aghast.
 
2013-12-18 08:49:38 AM

abhorrent1: Most overrated restaurant  ever. Followed closely by in-and-out


both have excellent friendly service (for fast food) and really you feel both of these are the most overrated restaurants of all time?
 
2013-12-18 09:13:30 AM

Waldo Pepper: abhorrent1: Most overrated restaurant  ever. Followed closely by in-and-out

both have excellent friendly service (for fast food) and really you feel both of these are the most overrated restaurants of all time?


I suspect the issue has more to do with their ties to Christianity than to anything about the restaurant service itself.
 
2013-12-18 10:54:53 AM

Waldo Pepper: abhorrent1: Most overrated restaurant  ever. Followed closely by in-and-out

both have excellent friendly service (for fast food) and really you feel both of these are the most overrated restaurants of all time?


Well, of the fast food restaurants I guess. Not ALL restaurants
 
2013-12-18 12:01:08 PM
I always think about In-n-Out when I read anything about Chick-Fil-A.

In-n-Out: open on Sundays to let their workers, who generally need hours, get more hours. Provides life insurance, dental insurance, educational benefits, retirement benefits, above-minimum-wage salaries, paid-time-off, and other benefits to their *part time* employees. Prints small references to Bible verses on their packaging, but are otherwise silent about the owners' religions and politics.

Chick-Fil-A: closed on Sundays to honor the fifth commandment, but also inherently cuts hours for its part timers. Doesn't provide any real benefits for its part time employees. Pays generally at or near minimum wage. Very vocal about its owners' religion and politics. Has been sued multiple times for religious discrimination against employees.

Which chain do you think Christ would like more?
 
2013-12-18 12:17:56 PM

Lord Dimwit: I always think about In-n-Out when I read anything about Chick-Fil-A.

In-n-Out: open on Sundays to let their workers, who generally need hours, get more hours. Provides life insurance, dental insurance, educational benefits, retirement benefits, above-minimum-wage salaries, paid-time-off, and other benefits to their *part time* employees. Prints small references to Bible verses on their packaging, but are otherwise silent about the owners' religions and politics.

Chick-Fil-A: closed on Sundays to honor the fifth commandment, but also inherently cuts hours for its part timers. Doesn't provide any real benefits for its part time employees. Pays generally at or near minimum wage. Very vocal about its owners' religion and politics. Has been sued multiple times for religious discrimination against employees.

Which chain do you think Christ would like more?


Not being open to give hours is a non-starter.  That's like saying that Walmart is more Christian because they're open on Thanksgiving allowing more part time employees to work more.
 
2013-12-18 12:53:26 PM

Lord Dimwit: I always think about In-n-Out when I read anything about Chick-Fil-A.

In-n-Out: open on Sundays to let their workers, who generally need hours, get more hours. Provides life insurance, dental insurance, educational benefits, retirement benefits, above-minimum-wage salaries, paid-time-off, and other benefits to their *part time* employees. Prints small references to Bible verses on their packaging, but are otherwise silent about the owners' religions and politics.

Chick-Fil-A: closed on Sundays to honor the fifth commandment, but also inherently cuts hours for its part timers. Doesn't provide any real benefits for its part time employees. Pays generally at or near minimum wage. Very vocal about its owners' religion and politics. Has been sued multiple times for religious discrimination against employees.

Which chain do you think Christ would like more?


In-N-Out----no bacon.
 
2013-12-18 01:02:47 PM

bhcompy: Lord Dimwit: I always think about In-n-Out when I read anything about Chick-Fil-A.

In-n-Out: open on Sundays to let their workers, who generally need hours, get more hours. Provides life insurance, dental insurance, educational benefits, retirement benefits, above-minimum-wage salaries, paid-time-off, and other benefits to their *part time* employees. Prints small references to Bible verses on their packaging, but are otherwise silent about the owners' religions and politics.

Chick-Fil-A: closed on Sundays to honor the fifth commandment, but also inherently cuts hours for its part timers. Doesn't provide any real benefits for its part time employees. Pays generally at or near minimum wage. Very vocal about its owners' religion and politics. Has been sued multiple times for religious discrimination against employees.

Which chain do you think Christ would like more?

Not being open to give hours is a non-starter.  That's like saying that Walmart is more Christian because they're open on Thanksgiving allowing more part time employees to work more.


Touche. The other points still stand, though, I think.
 
2013-12-18 01:32:15 PM
Sorry to derail this thread with a non-political question, but is this true: (fta) "Modesty has never been Chick-fil-A's strong suit. This is, after all, the chain that perpetually brags about inventing the chicken sandwich."?

Do they really claim to have invented putting chicken on bread in the mid-1900's?
 
2013-12-18 06:56:24 PM

Lord Dimwit: bhcompy: Lord Dimwit: I always think about In-n-Out when I read anything about Chick-Fil-A.

In-n-Out: open on Sundays to let their workers, who generally need hours, get more hours. Provides life insurance, dental insurance, educational benefits, retirement benefits, above-minimum-wage salaries, paid-time-off, and other benefits to their *part time* employees. Prints small references to Bible verses on their packaging, but are otherwise silent about the owners' religions and politics.

Chick-Fil-A: closed on Sundays to honor the fifth commandment, but also inherently cuts hours for its part timers. Doesn't provide any real benefits for its part time employees. Pays generally at or near minimum wage. Very vocal about its owners' religion and politics. Has been sued multiple times for religious discrimination against employees.

Which chain do you think Christ would like more?

Not being open to give hours is a non-starter.  That's like saying that Walmart is more Christian because they're open on Thanksgiving allowing more part time employees to work more.

Touche. The other points still stand, though, I think.


CFA pays better than minimum wage.  They are near the upper end of the fast food industry in pay.  They also have a lot of opportunities for advancement, since they try to do promotions from within the company.  On top of that, they have a lot of scholarship opportunities for employees that are wanting to go to college.  I know several people that have worked there and I have heard pretty much nothing bad about them as an employer.
 
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