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2013-12-17 05:39:14 PM  
that article was a trainwreck.

Mom and dad are getting a divorce. Mom says the kid told her babbysiiter is nekkid on daddies phoe. She's a minor so mom reports to police, dad sues mom, mom countersues. Pic is not of minor babysitter, mom should know that and was using it as leverage in divorce.

Judge says no, she wasn't.

All a bunch of assholes
 
2013-12-17 07:49:05 PM  

cretinbob: that article was a trainwreck.

Mom and dad are getting a divorce. Mom says the kid told her babbysiiter is nekkid on daddies phoe. She's a minor so mom reports to police, dad sues mom, mom countersues. Pic is not of minor babysitter, mom should know that and was using it as leverage in divorce.

Judge says no, she wasn't.

All a bunch of assholes


It wasn't a countersuit...both the dad and the babysitter filed suits against the mother. Just to help your summary be more accurate.
 
2013-12-17 07:56:58 PM  
This thread is useless without pictures.
 
2013-12-17 08:33:55 PM  

doyner: This thread is useless without pictures.


That's what started this whole mess.
 
2013-12-17 09:15:30 PM  
Here's the original article that Opposing Views cannibalized:  http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/12/16/63784.htm

In case you feel like actually giving your clicks to a website that isn't a fetid heap of moldering crap.
 
2013-12-17 09:16:18 PM  

doyner: This thread is useless without pictures.


4.bp.blogspot.com
Oh, Mr. Vidal... what if your wife finds out
*snort*
 
2013-12-17 09:16:24 PM  
So having joined the not clicking on links to OV "articles" brigade, who's got a link to a less sucky site?
 
2013-12-17 09:16:41 PM  

cretinbob: that article was a trainwreck.

Mom and dad are getting a divorce. Mom says the kid told her babbysiiter is nekkid on daddies phoe. She's a minor so mom reports to police, dad sues mom, mom countersues. Pic is not of minor babysitter, mom should know that and was using it as leverage in divorce.

Judge says no, she wasn't.

All a bunch of assholes


Except that mom didn't see the nekkid picture and was only going on what her daughter told her. Since the baby sitter is a minor, she understandably reported it to the police. The matter should have ended with police confirming the babysitter was not the one pictured. The end.
 
2013-12-17 09:17:05 PM  
"Peter and Danielle argue a reasonable trier of fact could have found Rujuta knew the figure was not Danielle but exploited the situation to gain favor in the dissolution action with Peter. There is no such evidence in the record to support such a finding or to generate a fact question. Rujuta testified she contacted police because she believed the figure was Danielle, whom she knew to be a minor, and she was concerned both for Danielle and her own daughter,"

Sure...that's the ticket.
 
2013-12-17 09:17:18 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Here's the original article that Opposing Views cannibalized:  http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/12/16/63784.htm

In case you feel like actually giving your clicks to a website that isn't a fetid heap of moldering crap.


fark isn't always moldering. sometimes it smells like sunshine and rainbows with a hint of alcoholic desperation.
 
2013-12-17 09:17:21 PM  
Police Chief Thomas Kozisek, however, ultimately determined that the woman in the photograph was not Verhoef.

So I'm guessing he would have to see fresh pics of the babysitter to make that determination. The control group should hit the webs directly.
 
2013-12-17 09:17:43 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Here's the original article that Opposing Views cannibalized:  http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/12/16/63784.htm

In case you feel like actually giving your clicks to a website that isn't a fetid heap of moldering crap.


Ahhh, just in time, thanks.
 
2013-12-17 09:18:22 PM  
Assholes On Parade, .... It's assholes on parade!

/assholes
//on parade
/// <--slashies
 
2013-12-17 09:20:05 PM  

sjcousins: cretinbob: that article was a trainwreck.

Mom and dad are getting a divorce. Mom says the kid told her babbysiiter is nekkid on daddies phoe. She's a minor so mom reports to police, dad sues mom, mom countersues. Pic is not of minor babysitter, mom should know that and was using it as leverage in divorce.

Judge says no, she wasn't.

All a bunch of assholes

Except that mom didn't see the nekkid picture and was only going on what her daughter told her. Since the baby sitter is a minor, she understandably reported it to the police. The matter should have ended with police confirming the babysitter was not the one pictured. The end.


If you read the non-crappy article, the daughter sent mommy the picture from the phone.  So the plaintiffs were arguing that she should have known, but did it to fark him over in the divorce.  Despite what the court says, I'll bet that's exactly what was going through her mind, there just isn't proof.
 
2013-12-17 09:22:37 PM  

sjcousins: cretinbob: that article was a trainwreck.

Mom and dad are getting a divorce. Mom says the kid told her babbysiiter is nekkid on daddies phoe. She's a minor so mom reports to police, dad sues mom, mom countersues. Pic is not of minor babysitter, mom should know that and was using it as leverage in divorce.

Judge says no, she wasn't.

All a bunch of assholes

Except that mom didn't see the nekkid picture and was only going on what her daughter told her. Since the baby sitter is a minor, she understandably reported it to the police. The matter should have ended with police confirming the babysitter was not the one pictured. The end.


Fark, nevermind. Just read pocket ninja's link which confirms she did in fact see the photo. Now I'm wondering what's creepier, having a nude photo of your kid's 17 year old babysitter or having a nude photo of someone who looks so much like your babysitter 2 people mistakenly thought it was.
 
2013-12-17 09:22:41 PM  

sjcousins: cretinbob: that article was a trainwreck.

Mom and dad are getting a divorce. Mom says the kid told her babbysiiter is nekkid on daddies phoe. She's a minor so mom reports to police, dad sues mom, mom countersues. Pic is not of minor babysitter, mom should know that and was using it as leverage in divorce.

Judge says no, she wasn't.

All a bunch of assholes

Except that mom didn't see the nekkid picture and was only going on what her daughter told her. Since the baby sitter is a minor, she understandably reported it to the police. The matter should have ended with police confirming the babysitter was not the one pictured. The end.


Read the good article, the daughter forwarded the picture to mom, then mom contacted police.
 
2013-12-17 09:23:01 PM  
a different link for those of us who don't click Opposing Views:

http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/12/16/63784.htm
 
2013-12-17 09:23:56 PM  

cretinbob: that article was a trainwreck.

Mom and dad are getting a divorce. Mom says the kid told her babbysiiter is nekkid on daddies phoe. She's a minor so mom reports to police, dad sues mom, mom countersues. Pic is not of minor babysitter, mom should know that and was using it as leverage in divorce.

Judge says no, she wasn't.

All a bunch of assholes


Naw, to me it seems everyone's point of view is understandable, and the judge ruled correctly.

Daughter: Sees naked woman on dad's phone.  Thinks it's the babysitter, tells mom.
Mom: Is told that dad has a pic of a naked minor. Calls the police.
Dad: Didn't do anything wrong, but has to fight allegations in the middle of a custody battle. Sues for defamation.
Babysitter: Wasn't naked on dad's phone, also sues.
Judge: Hears all the above. Doesn't see evidence that mom was being malicious, so dismisses it.

Defamation suites weren't really necessary, but I might have been tempted to file if I thought it would have baring on the custody battle. Other than that, everyone acted reasonably.
 
2013-12-17 09:24:12 PM  
Babysitter porn?
 
2013-12-17 09:25:42 PM  
Man, as an Iowan, I am currently regretting my decision to not become a dentist. Those guys are apparently swirling in hot babes. Remember that Iowa dentist whose wifeade him fire his hot assistant?
 
2013-12-17 09:25:48 PM  

kyledykstra: sjcousins: cretinbob: that article was a trainwreck.

Mom and dad are getting a divorce. Mom says the kid told her babbysiiter is nekkid on daddies phoe. She's a minor so mom reports to police, dad sues mom, mom countersues. Pic is not of minor babysitter, mom should know that and was using it as leverage in divorce.

Judge says no, she wasn't.

All a bunch of assholes

Except that mom didn't see the nekkid picture and was only going on what her daughter told her. Since the baby sitter is a minor, she understandably reported it to the police. The matter should have ended with police confirming the babysitter was not the one pictured. The end.

Read the good article, the daughter forwarded the picture to mom, then mom contacted police.


"Kozisek [the police chief] later enlarged the photo and determined that it was not of Verhoef. "
 
2013-12-17 09:26:49 PM  

JustLookin: Man, as an Iowan, I am currently regretting my decision to not become a dentist. Those guys are apparently swirling in hot babes. Remember that Iowa dentist whose wifeade him fire his hot assistant?


...wife made, not wifeade.

Tho I could go for some wifeade right now. Very refreshing.
 
2013-12-17 09:28:00 PM  
images.cafepress.com
 
2013-12-17 09:28:46 PM  

doyner: This thread is useless without pictures.


I worked with Rujuta a few years back. Eh.
 
2013-12-17 09:29:30 PM  
Good to know it isn't defamation if you can't be sure that what you are accusing someone of is true or not.

I hearby accuse everyone of kiddie diddling.
 
2013-12-17 09:29:54 PM  
So are the ex wife and girl guilty of intent/conspiracy to spread child porn over a network? I mean, they only have to think the girl in the pic was a minor, right?
 
2013-12-17 09:33:12 PM  
Daughter finds dads phone with nude pic.
Mother says that could be babysitter, calls police.
Police investigate, say no it isn't babysitter.
Mother gets proof to use against him for divorce, witnesses, and makes him look bad in the media to boot.
Ex husband and babysitter sue, judge says no, she was acting out of reasonable concern...
Or was she?

No way a wife looking to strengthen her divorce case could leverage her daughter against him.
Imagine the position he was in when the police were asking questions about the photos and how the police could be used in court for her.
But she was smart and careful, so she won.
 
2013-12-17 09:40:42 PM  
He should've just kept it in his pocket.


The cell phone, I mean.
 
2013-12-17 09:41:22 PM  
One thing is for sure , and that is that the daughter is going to be all kinds of trouble for someone at some point.
 
2013-12-17 09:45:58 PM  
i.imgur.com

The one in the middle.

i.imgur.com

Or if ridiculous mall glamor shots are more your thing.
 
2013-12-17 09:53:14 PM  
Lock your phones people. If your SO makes a big stink about why you are locking your phone, tell them that you keep pocket dialing people or make up a story that you get sensitive text or emails from work and have to keep the phone locked, and can't tell them the password.
 
2013-12-17 09:53:59 PM  

sjcousins: cretinbob: that article was a trainwreck.

Mom and dad are getting a divorce. Mom says the kid told her babbysiiter is nekkid on daddies phoe. She's a minor so mom reports to police, dad sues mom, mom countersues. Pic is not of minor babysitter, mom should know that and was using it as leverage in divorce.

Judge says no, she wasn't.

All a bunch of assholes

Except that mom didn't see the nekkid picture and was only going on what her daughter told her. Since the baby sitter is a minor, she understandably reported it to the police. The matter should have ended with police confirming the babysitter was not the one pictured. The end.


FTOriginalA:
The girl forwarded the photo to her mother, who called the police.
 
2013-12-17 09:59:06 PM  
But on the plus side, the man will be able to email the story to any person foolish enough to date his ex. Knowing a mother-daughter duo makes up stuff that can land you in prison is a powerful anti-aphrodisiac.
 
2013-12-17 09:59:33 PM  

sjcousins: cretinbob: that article was a trainwreck.

Mom and dad are getting a divorce. Mom says the kid told her babbysiiter is nekkid on daddies phoe. She's a minor so mom reports to police, dad sues mom, mom countersues. Pic is not of minor babysitter, mom should know that and was using it as leverage in divorce.

Judge says no, she wasn't.

All a bunch of assholes

Except that mom didn't see the nekkid picture and was only going on what her daughter told her. Since the baby sitter is a minor, she understandably reported it to the police. The matter should have ended with police confirming the babysitter was not the one pictured. The end.


You hath not known the fury of a woman during a divorce.

Their lawyers will tell them to listen and look for ANYTHING to get leverage. Many women view divorce as a zero-sum game: the more you take, the less he has, the more you win. Bonus points if he's too poor to date and living paycheck to paycheck after the alimony and child support.
 
2013-12-17 10:00:53 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Here's the original article that Opposing Views cannibalized:  http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/12/16/63784.htm

In case you feel like actually giving your clicks to a website that isn't a fetid heap of moldering crap.


Thank you, kind sir. Greatly appreciated.
 
2013-12-17 10:02:04 PM  
inglixthemad
You hath not known the fury of a woman during a divorce.
Their lawyers will tell them to listen and look for ANYTHING to get leverage. Many women view divorce as a zero-sum game: the more you take, the less he has, the more you win. Bonus points if he's too poor to date and living paycheck to paycheck after the alimony and child support.


He was stupid for having pic's on his cell. I would hope that if the daughter was playing private detective for the female she would get points deducted too.
 
2013-12-17 10:11:29 PM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: [i.imgur.com image 512x527]

The one in the middle.

[i.imgur.com image 480x720]

Or if ridiculous mall glamor shots are more your thing.


Bikini selfie!

stat.mobli.com

Though I found another one I doubt this is her because the comments are in German or something.

scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2013-12-17 10:14:01 PM  

fusillade762: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: [i.imgur.com image 512x527]

The one in the middle.

[i.imgur.com image 480x720]

Or if ridiculous mall glamor shots are more your thing.

Bikini selfie!

[stat.mobli.com image 300x400]

Though I found another one I doubt this is her because the comments are in German or something.

[scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net image 392x700]


www.dimex1.com
 
2013-12-17 10:21:41 PM  
Uh...are all these pictures you guys are posting the wife, the baby sitter, the lady on the phone or the daughter?
 
2013-12-17 10:26:35 PM  

Hollie Maea: Uh...are all these pictures you guys are posting the wife, the baby sitter, the lady on the phone or the daughter?


That's probably the babysitter. Definitely not the wife.
 
2013-12-17 10:36:21 PM  
Auto-win for the wife, as is the case in any courtroom in the US in regards to divorce situations.
 
2013-12-17 10:37:42 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Here's the original article that Opposing Views cannibalized:  http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/12/16/63784.htm

In case you feel like actually giving your clicks to a website that isn't a fetid heap of moldering crap.


FTA: The girl forwarded the photo to her mother, who called the police. Thomas Kozisek, police chief of Garner, Ill., spoke to Verhoef's parents about the allegations.

Dad needs to set a security code on his phone. Just sayin'.
 
2013-12-17 10:47:45 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: sjcousins: cretinbob: that article was a trainwreck.

Mom and dad are getting a divorce. Mom says the kid told her babbysiiter is nekkid on daddies phoe. She's a minor so mom reports to police, dad sues mom, mom countersues. Pic is not of minor babysitter, mom should know that and was using it as leverage in divorce.

Judge says no, she wasn't.

All a bunch of assholes

Except that mom didn't see the nekkid picture and was only going on what her daughter told her. Since the baby sitter is a minor, she understandably reported it to the police. The matter should have ended with police confirming the babysitter was not the one pictured. The end.

FTOriginalA:
The girl forwarded the photo to her mother, who called the police.


That sentence nor the information it contains is not in the original article. But hey, thanks for being the 5th person to point that out after I'd read the non-shiatty article and addressed my mistake in light of new information.
 
2013-12-17 10:56:57 PM  

sjcousins: demaL-demaL-yeH: sjcousins: cretinbob: that article was a trainwreck.

Mom and dad are getting a divorce. Mom says the kid told her babbysiiter is nekkid on daddies phoe. She's a minor so mom reports to police, dad sues mom, mom countersues. Pic is not of minor babysitter, mom should know that and was using it as leverage in divorce.

Judge says no, she wasn't.

All a bunch of assholes

Except that mom didn't see the nekkid picture and was only going on what her daughter told her. Since the baby sitter is a minor, she understandably reported it to the police. The matter should have ended with police confirming the babysitter was not the one pictured. The end.

FTOriginalA:
The girl forwarded the photo to her mother, who called the police.

That sentence nor the information it contains is not in the original article. But hey, thanks for being the 5th person to point that out after I'd read the non-shiatty article and addressed my mistake in light of new information.


I don't know if you saw it or not, but the daughter forwarded the image to the wife.
 
2013-12-17 11:00:55 PM  
"a naked picture of her babysitter, Danielle Verhoef, on her father's phone. Police Chief Thomas Kozisek, however, ultimately determined that the woman in the photograph was not Verhoef."

THEN WHO WAS PHONE?
 
2013-12-17 11:04:03 PM  

WhyKnot: sjcousins: demaL-demaL-yeH: sjcousins: cretinbob: that article was a trainwreck.

Mom and dad are getting a divorce. Mom says the kid told her babbysiiter is nekkid on daddies phoe. She's a minor so mom reports to police, dad sues mom, mom countersues. Pic is not of minor babysitter, mom should know that and was using it as leverage in divorce.

Judge says no, she wasn't.

All a bunch of assholes

Except that mom didn't see the nekkid picture and was only going on what her daughter told her. Since the baby sitter is a minor, she understandably reported it to the police. The matter should have ended with police confirming the babysitter was not the one pictured. The end.

FTOriginalA:
The girl forwarded the photo to her mother, who called the police.

That sentence nor the information it contains is not in the original article. But hey, thanks for being the 5th person to point that out after I'd read the non-shiatty article and addressed my mistake in light of new information.

I don't know if you saw it or not, but the daughter forwarded the image to the wife.


Ok, that one made me laugh (admittedly after at least 1 second of rage.)
 
2013-12-17 11:15:53 PM  
www.ramascreen.com
 
2013-12-17 11:30:55 PM  

sjcousins: demaL-demaL-yeH: sjcousins:
FTOriginalA:
The girl forwarded the photo to her mother, who called the police.

That sentence nor the information it contains is not in the original article. But hey, thanks for being the 5th person to point that out after I'd read the non-shiatty article and addressed my mistake in light of new information.


You're welcome?

/You sound a bit miffed: Here, drink a nice Nimbus Dirty Guera.
 
2013-12-17 11:33:30 PM  
Their lawyers will tell them to listen and look for ANYTHING to get leverage. Many women view divorce as a zero-sum game: the more you take, the less he has, the more you win. Bonus points if he's too poor to date and living paycheck to paycheck after the alimony and child support.

My life, pretty much.  Except for the nekkid chicks on the cell-phone part.

/ex is a coont
 
2013-12-17 11:34:23 PM  

WhyKnot: sjcousins: demaL-demaL-yeH: sjcousins: cretinbob: that article was a trainwreck.

Mom and dad are getting a divorce. Mom says the kid told her babbysiiter is nekkid on daddies phoe. She's a minor so mom reports to police, dad sues mom, mom countersues. Pic is not of minor babysitter, mom should know that and was using it as leverage in divorce.

Judge says no, she wasn't.

All a bunch of assholes

Except that mom didn't see the nekkid picture and was only going on what her daughter told her. Since the baby sitter is a minor, she understandably reported it to the police. The matter should have ended with police confirming the babysitter was not the one pictured. The end.

FTOriginalA:
The girl forwarded the photo to her mother, who called the police.

That sentence nor the information it contains is not in the original article. But hey, thanks for being the 5th person to point that out after I'd read the non-shiatty article and addressed my mistake in light of new information.

I don't know if you saw it or not, but the daughter forwarded the image to the wife.


I know that is what she claims, but please. She got a hold to his phone, looked for anything she could use as leverage, sent the picture to herself, then claimed her daughter sent it to her, knowing full well he wouldn't let his lawyers question his daughter.
 
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