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(Guardian)   Stadiums being built in Brazil for 2014 World Cup so dangerous that at times there are dozens of workers rolling around clutching their knees after nearly touching it   (theguardian.com) divider line 27
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2013-12-17 12:07:51 PM
Portuguese workers.  You get what you pay for.
 
2013-12-17 12:09:21 PM

French Rage: Portuguese  Bolivian workers.  You get what you pay for.

 
2013-12-17 12:10:33 PM
I'm sure the ones built by slaves in Qatar will be much better. Worked for the pyramids!
 
2013-12-17 12:18:10 PM
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2013-12-17 12:29:25 PM
Do you want them done on time, underbudget or worker safety?  Ya got two choices.
 
2013-12-17 12:53:57 PM
The 2014 world Cup has the potential to be the biggest orgy of violence and failure most of us have ever seen.
 
2013-12-17 12:55:27 PM
I think zero is a harsh safety rating. It's not like they're lowering people in baskets with dynamite only to intentionally blow them up when they're in the right place.
 
2013-12-17 01:00:05 PM
Brazil's bid to host the World Cup, and then the Olympics was meant to show that Brazil was an emerging power, ready to leave the Third World and be thought of as a modern Industrialized nation and an emerging regional power of the 21st century.


It's actual execution of those bids has basically proved the exact opposite.  The Rio Olympics will either be the most poorly attended in history or, by far, the deadliest  for tourists
 
2013-12-17 01:08:19 PM

Magorn: Brazil's bid to host the World Cup, and then the Olympics was meant to show that Brazil was an emerging power, ready to leave the Third World and be thought of as a modern Industrialized nation and an emerging regional power of the 21st century.


It's actual execution of those bids has basically proved the exact opposite.  The Rio Olympics will either be the most poorly attended in history or, by far, the deadliest  for tourists


Why not both...


But seriously, FIFA & IOC don't care since they know if Brazil is in such bad shape they can't get everything together they can ask their good friends the USA to hold their event here since or infrastructure can handle those type of events.


/want world cup in USA

//FARK Qatar
 
2013-12-17 01:14:12 PM

Crewmannumber6: The 2014 world Cup has the potential to be the biggest orgy of violence and failure most of us have ever seen.


Yes, I'm very much looking forward to it - especially now that USMNT is in such a difficult group
 
2013-12-17 01:40:55 PM
FIFA is all about growing the game globally. The bid was given to Brazil because they have a soccer mad country with a strong team and an emerging economy. The growing economy is why Brazil got the WC14 bid. FIFA realized that Brazil is going to play a bigger part in upcoming global economies and they wanted to get in on the ground floor.

Russia got WC18 because they are a stable country with solid econmic progress that has a domestic league with a solid foothold on the country's athletic mindset. Host a WC in that environment and you can hope to push the growth of soccer through a re-emerging European and Asian power.

Qatar got WC22 because FIFA wants to push their influence into the Middle Eastern countries where traditionaly FIFA hasn't had much traction. In other words, to grow the game in a part of the world that hasn't already been absorbed by FIFA. A large chunk of the world's oil comes from the general area and as such the economy is pretty solid. Again a solid prospect for FIFA expansion.

The USA got WC94 for the same reasons. A strong economy to support the games and an emerging game growth in a country that is fat with cash. The creation of MLS was part of the bid for getting the WC94. This was done to further push the growth of soccer in America and it has worked. Since WC94 more and more American's play and watch soccer because the game was "introduced" to us.

South Africa got WC10 and Korea/Japan got WC02 for the same reasons listed above. A solid country in a place where FIFA doesn't already have a major influence.

The outliers were France WC98 and Germany WC06. Those were countries where FIFA already had a strong foothold and nothing really needed to be done except show up and play the matches.

/in reality the bids were awarded because of bribes
//fat juicey bribes
///FIFA will tell you that it is about growing the game
////it is all about bribes
 
2013-12-17 01:47:26 PM
Brazil seems a tad cocky if they pull off both with little to no major problems it will be a coup for them. If not it could go up there with Munich in sucky Olympic games history.
 
2013-12-17 02:57:35 PM
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2013-12-17 03:02:27 PM
The people who aren't habitual lottery players don't play because they actually think they are going to win.  They play because the idea of winning is a nice distraction.  Daydreaming about what you can do with the money has entertainment value.   My $2 that I put in will provide me a couple hours of entertainment at work dreaming about what I would buy if I win.  That's pretty cost effective entertainment.
 
2013-12-17 03:03:02 PM
Goddamn.  wrong thread...
 
2013-12-17 03:21:12 PM

Magorn: Brazil's bid to host the World Cup, and then the Olympics was meant to show that Brazil was an emerging power, ready to leave the Third World and be thought of as a modern Industrialized nation and an emerging regional power of the 21st century.


It's actual execution of those bids has basically proved the exact opposite.  The Rio Olympics will either be the most poorly attended in history or, by far, the deadliest  for tourists


I was thinking the same thing.  Their chance to shine and they're blowing it.  There's a chance national pride and massive police roundups of anybody who even looks shady may get them through unscathed in international eyes.
 
2013-12-17 03:23:29 PM

sign_of_Zeta: The people who aren't habitual lottery players don't play because they actually think they are going to win.  They play because the idea of winning is a nice distraction.  Daydreaming about what you can do with the money has entertainment value.   My $2 that I put in will provide me a couple hours of entertainment at work dreaming about what I would buy if I win.  That's pretty cost effective entertainment.

sign_of_Zeta: Goddamn.  wrong thread...



Roll with it.  If I win the lottery, I'm going to bribe FIFA to hold the World Cup in my back yard.
 
2013-12-17 03:25:49 PM
Does Sepp take wire transfers or does he want kruggerands?

Pretty convenient that FIFA is in Zurich
 
2013-12-17 03:50:40 PM

Magorn: Brazil's bid to host the World Cup, and then the Olympics was meant to show that Brazil was an emerging power, ready to leave the Third World and be thought of as a modern Industrialized nation and an emerging regional power of the 21st century.


It's actual execution of those bids has basically proved the exact opposite.  The Rio Olympics will either be the most poorly attended in history or, by far, the deadliest  for tourists


I don't think it will be deadly or anything like that, other than idiots wandering into favelas or something to 'watch poverty and crime'.

But, traveling to Sao Paolo and Rio de Janeiro a couple years ago showed me two things:  Brazil's a nice place, safer than I thought, and...  it's disorganized.  Standing in line for customs on the way in convinced me they weren't going to be ready for the World Cup.  Or Olympics.  I also got an iPod stolen out of my luggage.
 
2013-12-17 03:52:02 PM

ElwoodCuse: Does Sepp take wire transfers or does he want kruggerands?

Pretty convenient that FIFA is in Zurich


All he cares is he gets all the money
 
2013-12-17 03:54:37 PM

relaxitsjustme: Magorn: Brazil's bid to host the World Cup, and then the Olympics was meant to show that Brazil was an emerging power, ready to leave the Third World and be thought of as a modern Industrialized nation and an emerging regional power of the 21st century.


It's actual execution of those bids has basically proved the exact opposite.  The Rio Olympics will either be the most poorly attended in history or, by far, the deadliest  for tourists

I was thinking the same thing.  Their chance to shine and they're blowing it.  There's a chance national pride and massive police roundups of anybody who even looks shady may get them through unscathed in international eyes.


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balfourk:
Russia got WC18 because they are a stable country with solid econmic progress


/in reality the bids were awarded because of bribes
//fat juicey bribes
///FIFA will tell you that it is about growing the game
////it is all about bribes


You almost fished me in with that bit about Russia; nicely done.
 
2013-12-17 04:08:06 PM
I'm guessing that running gun battle Max Payne had with Comando Sombra might have had something to do with it.

/Baghdad with g-strings
 
2013-12-17 04:17:15 PM
Well, at this point in the game, it's too late to reaward. Not even the US would be able to get a Cup together in the time left, or if they could, it'd be just as much of a rush job as it is now in Brazil. It is where it is; good luck with that.
 
2013-12-17 04:27:16 PM

balfourk: FIFA is all about growing the game globally. The bid was given to Brazil because they have a soccer mad country with a strong team and an emerging economy. The growing economy is why Brazil got the WC14 bid. FIFA realized that Brazil is going to play a bigger part in upcoming global economies and they wanted to get in on the ground floor.


Brazil got it because Blatter wanted the 2014 Cup to go to South America. Colombia wanted to bid but decided against it; Argentina opted out as they were hosting the 2011 Copa America already, so Brazil was the only one left to actually make a bid.
 
2013-12-17 04:41:40 PM

eagles95: Magorn: Brazil's bid to host the World Cup, and then the Olympics was meant to show that Brazil was an emerging power, ready to leave the Third World and be thought of as a modern Industrialized nation and an emerging regional power of the 21st century.


It's actual execution of those bids has basically proved the exact opposite.  The Rio Olympics will either be the most poorly attended in history or, by far, the deadliest  for tourists

Why not both...


But seriously, FIFA & IOC don't care since they know if Brazil is in such bad shape they can't get everything together they can ask their good friends the USA to hold their event here since or infrastructure can handle those type of events.


/want world cup in USA

//FARK Qatar


Fark Qatar, no argument there.

There's precedent for threatening to ask Germany when a host nation can't get their shiat together. Because well, the host nation usually sees that as a credible threat. "fark, moving to Germany in 2 weeks? Better get our shiat together".

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/dec/13/germany-build-own-wo rl d-cup-hotel-training-base-brazil

Though then of course they can't use the city they're building in Brazil in a, we totally thrust you to not fark simple stuff up, move.


Wouldn't mind USA. Been a while since last.
 
2013-12-17 09:21:03 PM

spawn73: Wouldn't mind USA. Been a while since last.


Again, it's too late. We'd need six months to a year to get one together. Asking us to put one together from scratch by June 12, that's now less than six months away. Not even we could slap a World Cup together that fast. Either Brazil will be ready by June 12, or they won't, and the Cup will start anyway with whatever it is they do have. If they're not ready, well, they can just go ahead and deal with those kind of news reports, and the media that will almost certainly decide that piling on is easy and fun that goes off in search of protests to cover.
 
2013-12-18 02:35:32 AM
aristotle is in charge
 
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