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2013-12-17 08:42:18 AM  
Welcome to Townhell Tuesday everyone.
 
2013-12-17 08:42:20 AM  
Another list from John Hawkins.  Each point only proving what a lazy blockhead he is.
 
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2013-12-17 08:47:49 AM  
They don't want to let people die so they can save $.35 on a pizza?

/DNRTFA
 
2013-12-17 08:48:26 AM  
gifatron.com
 
2013-12-17 09:02:23 AM  
Is one of them "If you want to know what a Liberal believes, ask a Conservative"?  Because I already knew that one.
 
2013-12-17 09:04:33 AM  
Who wants to be the thread martyr and get the major points from the article? Because you know there's no reason to read that website otherwise.
 
2013-12-17 09:04:39 AM  
Conservative blogger beats up scarecrow, news at 11.
 
2013-12-17 09:05:06 AM  
Oh look, a Townhall link. Let me guess they all relate to the idea liberals are "takers"
 
2013-12-17 09:05:18 AM  

Triple Oak: Who wants to be the thread martyr and get the major points from the article? Because you know there's no reason to read that website otherwise.


I was going to, and then I noticed there weren't any, so I decided to get a cup of coffee instead.
 
2013-12-17 09:05:23 AM  

Triple Oak: Who wants to be the thread martyr and get the major points from the article? Because you know there's no reason to read that website otherwise.


I tried, but I only made it to number 3 before I wanted to carve my eyes out and boil my head in an attempt to get the derp out.
 
2013-12-17 09:08:57 AM  
Liberals didn't want "Obamacare". They wanted single-payer, like most other civilized countries have.
 
2013-12-17 09:09:00 AM  
Fat loser blogs for Clownhall. Stop the presses.
 
2013-12-17 09:10:50 AM  
I saw it was a list of 5, figured it was probably Hawkins.  Hovered over the link.. yep, I guessed correctly.
 
2013-12-17 09:11:12 AM  

Epicedion: Triple Oak: Who wants to be the thread martyr and get the major points from the article? Because you know there's no reason to read that website otherwise.

I was going to, and then I noticed there weren't any, so I decided to get a cup of coffee instead.


Yeah, this. It starts with the assumption that the ACA is a miserable failure and since that is undeniably true here is what that says about liberals. There is no actual substance that can be addressed. It's basically "liberals suck because fark them."
 
2013-12-17 09:11:29 AM  

Triple Oak: Who wants to be the thread martyr and get the major points from the article? Because you know there's no reason to read that website otherwise.


I was going to post a big bowl of poop, but I'm not getting a timeout for a stupid Hawkins "list."

1) It's inherently dishonest: In many ways, Obamacare is a typical liberal program. Unfortunately for Barack Obama, there are two key differences. The first is that the Affordable Care Act was implemented on a short enough timetable for people to remember the promises that were made about it. Furthermore, because it is such an enormous program, it impacts a lot more lives. Otherwise, it's a standard liberal program that makes promises it never intends to keep and does more damage than good. Liberal programs usually have huge, yet very predictable downsides that are systematically hidden, ignored and downplayed because liberal ideas can't survive an educated, honest debate about whether they work or not.

2) Results are irrelevant: Barack Obama promised that if you like your insurance, you can keep it. He said the same thing about your doctor. He claimed Obamacare would REDUCE the cost of health care, save the average person money and provide universal coverage. Not only are all of those promises untrue, but it's hard to miss the fact that no one on the Left SEEMS TO CARE. That's because whether Obamacare actually works or not is secondary to left-wing goals like centralizing government power, gaining more control over the American people and making liberals feel good about themselves. This is the rule, not the exception when it comes to liberals. Put another way, whether a liberal supports a program doesn't have anything to do with whether it works or not.

3) It penalizes success: Contrary to what you'd believe if you listen to the Left, 85% of Americans were perfectly happy with their insurance before the Affordable Care Act came along. Yet because of Obamacare, tens of millions of those people are going to lose their health insurance and most of them will pay more. In other words, our health care system was working just fine for the vast majority of Americans until Barack Obama took a wrecking ball to it. So, in order to help a relatively small number of people, liberals are perfectly willing to penalize Americans -- who worked hard, played by the rules and took care of themselves -- with much higher costs and lost plans. This is standard operating procedure for liberals who act as if doing well enough to live your life free of welfare, food stamps and government nannies is "cheating."

4) It doesn't work: A hammer is a good tool to use for pounding nails. It's not such a great tool to use in place of a screwdriver, saw or wrench. Government can be a good tool as well when it's used for the limited purposes for which it's designed -- such as putting up street signs, building roads and forming a military to protect us from other nations. The problem with liberals is that they want to use their government hammer for every task imaginable instead of letting the free market provide the right tool for the job. You think a billing dispute with an insurance company is unpleasant? Wait until you're hashing it out with the IRS. You don't like to deal with your insurance company? Wait until you have a problem with your insurance and can't get it corrected until you get approval from a government agent. Our government is slow, stupid, arrogant and generally unfriendly to consumers. The more government you have in your life, the more unpleasant your life is likely to be.

5) There are no trade-offs: Liberals seem to be incapable of mentally comprehending trade-offs. So instead, they present Utopian visions of how life would look in a perfect world and offer that up as a political alternative to the messy, oftentimes unpleasant reality we live in. That would be fantastic if Santa Claus, Star Trek replicators, and genies were real, but when you seek heaven on earth, you're more likely to start wandering towards hell.
 
2013-12-17 09:12:07 AM  
1) It's inherently dishonest

2) Results are irrelevant

3) It penalizes success

4) It doesn't work

5) There are no trade-offs


Politics aside the article's headline promises to teach me 5 things about liberals but teaches me 5 things about Obamacare instead.
 
2013-12-17 09:12:45 AM  
Obamaites offended...Obamaites Attack!
 
2013-12-17 09:13:18 AM  
A hammer is a good tool to use for pounding nails. It's not such a great tool to use in place of a screwdriver, saw or wrench. Government can be a good tool as well when it's used for the limited purposes for which it's designed -- such as putting up street signs, building roads and forming a military to protect us from other nations. The problem with liberals is that they want to use their government hammer for every task imaginable instead of letting the free market provide the right tool for the job.

I don't understand this analogy, are they saying a hammer is good at putting up street signs, building roads, and forming a military?
 
2013-12-17 09:14:01 AM  

Epicedion: Triple Oak: Who wants to be the thread martyr and get the major points from the article? Because you know there's no reason to read that website otherwise.

I was going to, and then I noticed there weren't any, so I decided to get a cup of coffee instead.


Well I kinda figured but I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt before we got too far into the day.
 
2013-12-17 09:14:55 AM  

Meatsim1: A hammer is a good tool to use for pounding nails. It's not such a great tool to use in place of a screwdriver, saw or wrench. Government can be a good tool as well when it's used for the limited purposes for which it's designed -- such as putting up street signs, building roads and forming a military to protect us from other nations. The problem with liberals is that they want to use their government hammer for every task imaginable instead of letting the free market provide the right tool for the job.

I don't understand this analogy, are they saying a hammer is good at putting up street signs, building roads, and forming a military?


As long as it comes with a sickle
 
2013-12-17 09:15:16 AM  
6) it was invented by republicans
 
2013-12-17 09:16:05 AM  

Diogenes: I was going to post a big bowl of poop, but I'm not getting a timeout for a stupid Hawkins "list."


I think watching a steaming pile of shiat in the cold December morning air would be more interesting. Imagine the steam wafting off the surface of the shiny rippled turds. It lays there delicately in the snow slightly melting it over time, as the steam envelopes it. Slowly the steam begins to slow as the pile cools. Eventually the slow drift of falling snow begins to envelope the pile, no more steam to be had, the pile slowly is consumed by ice and snow to be forgotten over time that it ever existed. That it ever had a moment, any evidence of that will be wiped from the Earth, and the pile will be lost to the sands of time.
 
2013-12-17 09:16:41 AM  
I was hoping the article would teach me something I didn't already know.

To be fair, here are 5 things you can learn about conservatism:

1) It's inherently dishonest
2) Results are irrelevant
3) It penalizes failure
4) It doesn't work
5) There are no trade-offs
 
2013-12-17 09:16:46 AM  

Diogenes: Triple Oak: Who wants to be the thread martyr and get the major points from the article? Because you know there's no reason to read that website otherwise.

I was going to post a big bowl of poop, but I'm not getting a timeout for a stupid Hawkins "list."

1-5) Summary of poop


Wait, Santa isn't real? Someone tell Megyn Kelly her white Santa might not exist...

/thank you for the list btw, the derp is strong this morning
 
2013-12-17 09:16:53 AM  

Meatsim1: 3) It penalizes success


Because the current method of penalizing the poors works so much better.

Meatsim1 you are a good person for wading through that derp. I would tip my hat, if I had one. A tip of my imaginary hat to  Diogenesas well.
 
2013-12-17 09:17:55 AM  

FlashHarry: 6) it was invented by republicans


And yet only democrats voted for it.
 
2013-12-17 09:18:10 AM  
Liberals seem to be incapable of mentally comprehending trade-offs.

Hello Pot, this is Kettle. Are you reading? Please respond.

I am black, please respond...
 
2013-12-17 09:22:24 AM  
www.bitlogic.com
 
2013-12-17 09:23:57 AM  

Insertwitty Namehere: FlashHarry: 6) it was invented by republicans

And yet only democrats voted for it.


Because Democrats would get credit for it.
 
2013-12-17 09:24:37 AM  
Shouldn't the titles of the five points match the headlines in some way. Like No. 1 should be "They are [Liberals] inherently dishonest" or "They don't care it's inherently dishonest" ?
 
2013-12-17 09:27:40 AM  

QueenMamaBee: Meatsim1: 3) It penalizes success

Because the current method of penalizing the poors works so much better.

Meatsim1 you are a good person for wading through that derp. I would tip my hat, if I had one. A tip of my imaginary hat to  Diogenesas well.


The current system penalizes the well-off, also.  Why do you think private insurance and care costs are so high?  Because those of paying for ourselves are also paying for those who need care but can't pay for it.

I am absolutely amazed that these so-called conservatives are so viciously opposed to people having to pay for their own care.  You'd think they'd hate the idea of poor free riders.

It's a simple matter of pay me now or pay me later.
 
2013-12-17 09:28:26 AM  

kbronsito: Shouldn't the titles of the five points match the headlines in some way. Like No. 1 should be "They are [Liberals] inherently dishonest" or "They don't care it's inherently dishonest" ?


I SAID "lazy blockhead."
 
2013-12-17 09:31:33 AM  

Mikey1969: Liberals seem to be incapable of mentally comprehending trade-offs.

Hello Pot, this is Kettle. Are you reading? Please respond.

I am black, please respond...


I find it so weird that the GOPers don't seem to get that the ACA was the trade-off. The actually liberal plan would work much better and involve much less invasive implementation than what actually passed. The left's problem is they trade too much for too little, not that they don't trade.
 
2013-12-17 09:35:24 AM  

Meatsim1: 1) It's inherently dishonest

2) Results are irrelevant

3) It penalizes success

4) It doesn't work

5) There are no trade-offs

Politics aside the article's headline promises to teach me 5 things about liberals but teaches me 5 things about Obamacare instead.


TIL one article is all it takes to dupe people into believing bullshiat.
 
2013-12-17 09:41:04 AM  

karnal: Obamaites offended...Obamaites Attack!


Meh. How about I go get another cup of coffee and let you flail around in Townhall's septic-tank-posing-as-a-blog instead?
 
2013-12-17 09:42:46 AM  

Insertwitty Namehere: FlashHarry: 6) it was invented by republicans

And yet only democrats voted for it.


And? Is this supposed to mean something?
 
2013-12-17 09:43:07 AM  

Diogenes: Another list from John Hawkins.  Each point only proving what a lazy blockhead he is.


I figured it was him. Glad I came into the thread first.
 
2013-12-17 09:46:41 AM  

someonelse: karnal: Obamaites offended...Obamaites Attack!

Meh. How about I go get another cup of coffee and let you flail around in Townhall's septic-tank-posing-as-a-blog instead?


Are you speaking for all Obamaites or just for yourself?
 
2013-12-17 09:47:21 AM  
1) WHARRRGARBLL!!
2) FARTBONGO!!!
3) WHARRRGRRAAABLL!!
4) FARTBONGO!!!
5) LIBTARDS!! LIBTARDS!! LIBTAAAAAAARDS!!!
 
2013-12-17 09:50:28 AM  

karnal: someonelse: karnal: Obamaites offended...Obamaites Attack!

Meh. How about I go get another cup of coffee and let you flail around in Townhall's septic-tank-posing-as-a-blog instead?

Are you speaking for all Obamaites or just for yourself?


I thought the proper term was Obamatons or Obamaniacs or Obamalamadingdongs or something.
 
2013-12-17 09:52:40 AM  

Meatsim1: A hammer is a good tool to use for pounding nails. It's not such a great tool to use in place of a screwdriver, saw or wrench. Government can be a good tool as well when it's used for the limited purposes for which it's designed -- such as putting up street signs, building roads and forming a military to protect us from other nations. The problem with liberals is that they want to use their government hammer for every task imaginable instead of letting the free market provide the right tool for the job.

I don't understand this analogy, are they saying a hammer is good at putting up street signs, building roads, and forming a military?


No, he's saying street signs, roads, and a military are nails. It makes perfect sense.
 
2013-12-17 09:53:38 AM  

oldfarthenry: 1) WHARRRGARBLL!!
2) FARTBONGO!!!
3) WHARRRGRRAAABLL!!
4) FARTBONGO!!!
5) LIBTARDS!! LIBTARDS!! LIBTAAAAAAARDS!!!



I guess that's one way to get your message across.....it reminds me of the misguided soul that stands on our local bridge carry a giant cross and a sign claiming that Abortion is Murder.  But what that poor fool doesn't know is that his presence there isn't going to change anyone's opinoin one way or other.
 
2013-12-17 09:53:42 AM  

Meatsim1: 1) It's inherently dishonest

2) Results are irrelevant

3) It penalizes success

4) It doesn't work

5) There are no trade-offs

Politics aside the article's headline promises to teach me 5 things about liberals but teaches me 5 things about Obamacare instead.


And most of the things it teaches about Obamacare are wrong, too.
 
2013-12-17 09:54:44 AM  

DeaH: Meatsim1: 1) It's inherently dishonest

2) Results are irrelevant

3) It penalizes success

4) It doesn't work

5) There are no trade-offs

Politics aside the article's headline promises to teach me 5 things about liberals but teaches me 5 things about Obamacare instead.

And most of the things it teaches about Obamacare are wrong, too.


However, they all could be accurately ascribed to conservatives.
 
2013-12-17 09:54:46 AM  

karnal: someonelse: karnal: Obamaites offended...Obamaites Attack!

Meh. How about I go get another cup of coffee and let you flail around in Townhall's septic-tank-posing-as-a-blog instead?

Are you speaking for all Obamaites or just for yourself?


Dude, you are white knighting for John Hawkins.

Think about that for a minute.
 
2013-12-17 09:55:16 AM  

monoski: Oh look, a Townhall link. Let me guess they all relate to the idea liberals are "takers"


Not only that, they:
1) Are inherently dishonest
2) Don't care that Obamacare is a complete and utter failure.
3) Destroyed insurance for 85% of Americans in order to cover the lazy 15% who didn't have it.
4) Think that (federal) gov't is the solution to everything
5) Watch too much Star Trek?. I dunno.  I was completely lost on this last point.
 
2013-12-17 09:56:40 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: karnal: someonelse: karnal: Obamaites offended...Obamaites Attack!

Meh. How about I go get another cup of coffee and let you flail around in Townhall's septic-tank-posing-as-a-blog instead?

Are you speaking for all Obamaites or just for yourself?

I thought the proper term was Obamatons or Obamaniacs or Obamalamadingdongs or something.


Obamanoids is also allowed.
 
2013-12-17 09:56:55 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: [gifatron.com image 245x194]


so, they typical Town Hall article.  thanks for saving me the click.
 
2013-12-17 10:00:47 AM  

karnal: someonelse: karnal: Obamaites offended...Obamaites Attack!

Meh. How about I go get another cup of coffee and let you flail around in Townhall's septic-tank-posing-as-a-blog instead?

Are you speaking for all Obamaites or just for yourself?


I don't have enough coffee for everyone. Speaking of which, have you considered decaf? Because there are a lot of decaffeinated brands on the market today that are just as tasty as the real thing.
 
2013-12-17 10:01:28 AM  

theknuckler_33: karnal: someonelse: karnal: Obamaites offended...Obamaites Attack!

Meh. How about I go get another cup of coffee and let you flail around in Townhall's septic-tank-posing-as-a-blog instead?

Are you speaking for all Obamaites or just for yourself?

Dude, you are white knighting for John Hawkins.

Think about that for a minute.



I'm not so obtuse that I need more than a minute...and the answer is no, but we do have a verbal agreement.
 
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