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(Philly.com)   60 Minutes: A travesty of a mockery of a puff piece of a one-sided sham   (philly.com) divider line 47
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2013-12-17 09:25:17 AM
The NSA is watching you fap.
 
2013-12-17 09:28:32 AM
Repeat but the story needs to be repeated.  We won't get a press that isn't a government propaganda machine unless we demand more from them and callout the worst offenders.
 
2013-12-17 09:28:36 AM
Cronkite is probably actually smiling somewhere.
 
2013-12-17 09:29:00 AM
What a sad fall from the show's heyday in the '70s/early '80s. Money talks I guess.
 
2013-12-17 09:42:28 AM

gopher321: What a sad fall from the show's heyday in the '70s/early '80s. Money talks I guess.


They has some good shows during the Iraq war.  I recall one about how the military was proudly talking about how they were training of the Iraqi army and showing how it was less effective than pissing money away.
 
2013-12-17 09:43:32 AM

Muta: Repeat but the story needs to be repeated.  We won't get a press that isn't a government propaganda machine unless we demand more from them and callout the worst offenders.


I was thinking it wasn't really a followup but continued biatching, but as you say. Repeat away.  We need  a Frontline report on 60 minute's shillery.
 
2013-12-17 09:53:14 AM

gopher321: What a sad fall from the show's heyday in the '70s/early '80s. Money talks I guess.


As Deep Throat said, "Follow the Money."
 
2013-12-17 09:58:12 AM

TheGogmagog: Muta: Repeat but the story needs to be repeated.  We won't get a press that isn't a government propaganda machine unless we demand more from them and callout the worst offenders.

I was thinking it wasn't really a followup but continued biatching, but as you say. Repeat away.  We need  a Frontline report on 60 minute's shillery.


We won't really know until BuzzFeed provides us with a list of "ten funniest animated gifs about the NSA".
 
2013-12-17 09:58:18 AM
That's what you get from picking up your stories from disgruntled ex-employees and con artists with axes to grind without doing any sort of follow up.

Also, the anchors are moldy and smell bad.
 
2013-12-17 10:07:23 AM

TheGogmagog: Muta: Repeat but the story needs to be repeated.  We won't get a press that isn't a government propaganda machine unless we demand more from them and callout the worst offenders.

I was thinking it wasn't really a followup but continued biatching, but as you say. Repeat away.  We need  a Frontline report on 60 minute's shillery.


I like Frontline.  It's an excellent show.  Too bad that news programs aren't more like Frontline or the other news shows on PBS.
 
2013-12-17 10:14:27 AM
Am I wrong in thinking that one should actually watch a show if they are going to write about it and expect to be taken seriously?
 
2013-12-17 10:22:35 AM
.... this is on the "Entertainment" tab?
 
2013-12-17 10:34:18 AM

R.A.Danny: Am I wrong in thinking that one should actually watch a show if they are going to write about it and expect to be taken seriously?


"You're not wrong Walter, You're just an arsehole!"
 
2013-12-17 10:40:08 AM
Does this rise to the level of "TRAVSHAMOCKERY" though?

I'm not sure.
 
2013-12-17 10:40:22 AM

TheGogmagog: gopher321: What a sad fall from the show's heyday in the '70s/early '80s. Money talks I guess.

As Deep Throat said, "Follow the Money."


"I am the Walrus"
 
2013-12-17 10:50:22 AM

StopLurkListen: .... this is on the "Entertainment" tab?


The TV is strictly for entertainment purposes.  It is not to be taken seriously.
 
2013-12-17 11:04:09 AM
we'll put you into one of those homes we saw on 60 minutes
 
2013-12-17 11:06:35 AM

gopher321: What a sad fall from the show's heyday in the '70s/early '80s. Money talks I guess.


well, everyone's starting to die off...
 
2013-12-17 11:12:02 AM
60 Minutes id to "journalism" what Mtv is to entertainment
 
2013-12-17 11:14:02 AM

gopher321: What a sad fall from the show's heyday in the '70s/early '80s. Money talks I guess.


It was pure sh*t and hysteria journalism in the 80's too. They once ran a hit piece on Dungeons & Dragons that may as well have been produced by the 700 Club. Total "Satanic Panic" fearmongering.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=445_1232224067
 
2013-12-17 11:33:15 AM
*scans headline*

www.newseum.org

/Despite its faults, CNN hasn't fallen this far from grace. Yet.
// Glad you're not around to see this, Morley.
 
2013-12-17 11:50:06 AM
The Liberal Media Bias strikes again!
 
2013-12-17 11:57:30 AM

TheGogmagog: gopher321: What a sad fall from the show's heyday in the '70s/early '80s. Money talks I guess.

As Deep Throat said, "Follow the Money."


Just don't print your own debt free currency that'll get you invaded or assinated.
 
2013-12-17 12:17:09 PM
I'm so sorry the interview wasn't about the thing you wanted it to be Mr. Author.
 
2013-12-17 12:20:17 PM
Fielding Mellish: I object, your honor! This trial is a travesty. It's a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham.
 
2013-12-17 12:39:20 PM
Don't trust the corporate media.
 
2013-12-17 12:49:53 PM

edmo: I'm so sorry the interview wasn't about the thing you wanted it to be Mr. Author.


Oh come on. It was basically "So, NSA, do you spy on ordinary Americans." "No, of course not." "Well, good enough for me."
 
2013-12-17 01:19:07 PM

Muta: Repeat but the story needs to be repeated.  We won't get a press that isn't a government propaganda machine unless we demand more from them and callout the worst offenders.


Good night, and good luck with that
 
2013-12-17 01:46:58 PM
Because the Philadelphia Inquirer lead the assault on getting the truth out of the NSA?

They were only one generation late in discovering the local Catholic diocese and it's priests appetite for kids. Or Penn States football coach's appetite for young players?

A newspaper owned by a real estate developer, beer distributor, or perhaps, by now, a Mexican drug cartel?
 
2013-12-17 02:00:11 PM

BitwiseShift: Because the Philadelphia Inquirer lead the assault on getting the truth out of the NSA?

They were only one generation late in discovering the local Catholic diocese and it's priests appetite for kids. Or Penn States football coach's appetite for young players?

A newspaper owned by a real estate developer, beer distributor, or perhaps, by now, a Mexican drug cartel?


I believe the article is more focused on the fact that "60 Minutes" is crap.  Which we all knew already.
 
2013-12-17 02:11:40 PM
60 minutes is just more sensational garbage designed to sell ads. After their retraction of the Bengazhi story you'd think they'd try harder at basic journalistic duties.

Nope, more crap. I understand having the NSA tell their side of the story, but there is a responsibility to call bullshiat on liars when you're the only one in the room.
 
2013-12-17 02:34:53 PM
Wait, I don't get it... Are they one sided because they protected the NSA, thereby Obama, or are they one sided because they used a fake witness for their Benghazi story, which went along with the Right's attack on Obama?

So they can't be trusted. The thing everyone seems to be glossing over is that they can't be trusted by either side. Instead, everyone cherry picks their favorite example, and gives their second favorite an also-ran mention, and that's about it.
 
2013-12-17 02:40:26 PM

TV's Vinnie: gopher321: What a sad fall from the show's heyday in the '70s/early '80s. Money talks I guess.

It was pure sh*t and hysteria journalism in the 80's too. They once ran a hit piece on Dungeons & Dragons that may as well have been produced by the 700 Club. Total "Satanic Panic" fearmongering.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=445_1232224067


LOL, if these kids aren't killing each other with broadswords, longbows or magic missiles, then they aren't really carrying out a "Dungeons and Dragons fantasy"...
 
2013-12-17 02:43:23 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: edmo: I'm so sorry the interview wasn't about the thing you wanted it to be Mr. Author.

Oh come on. It was basically "So, NSA, do you spy on ordinary Americans." "No, of course not." "Well, good enough for me."


His point stands.

You desperately want some validation that your fantasy beliefs that Americans are being spied on by their shadow government are true. You didn't get it. Therefore, shoot the messenger.

Very standard cognitive dissonance.

I know it's hard to believe, in the face of exactly zero evidence to the contrary, that the government isn't tracking your every move and communication, but please, just try to be sane for a day or so. You might appreciate life more.
 
2013-12-17 03:44:05 PM

justtray: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: edmo: I'm so sorry the interview wasn't about the thing you wanted it to be Mr. Author.

Oh come on. It was basically "So, NSA, do you spy on ordinary Americans." "No, of course not." "Well, good enough for me."

His point stands.

You desperately want some validation that your fantasy beliefs that Americans are being spied on by their shadow government are true. You didn't get it. Therefore, shoot the messenger.

Very standard cognitive dissonance.

I know it's hard to believe, in the face of exactly zero evidence to the contrary, that the government isn't tracking your every move and communication, but please, just try to be sane for a day or so. You might appreciate life more.


The single public court that has ruled on this disagrees with you.
 
2013-12-17 04:13:14 PM

justtray: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: edmo: I'm so sorry the interview wasn't about the thing you wanted it to be Mr. Author.

Oh come on. It was basically "So, NSA, do you spy on ordinary Americans." "No, of course not." "Well, good enough for me."

His point stands.

You desperately want some validation that your fantasy beliefs that Americans are being spied on by their shadow government are true. You didn't get it. Therefore, shoot the messenger.

Very standard cognitive dissonance.

I know it's hard to believe, in the face of exactly zero evidence to the contrary, that the government isn't tracking your every move and communication, but please, just try to be sane for a day or so. You might appreciate life more.


It's funny that for every time the NSA has pretended they have lines they don't cross, it turns out they've been crossing it for years.
 
2013-12-17 04:13:27 PM
 
2013-12-17 04:25:05 PM

justtray: I know it's hard to believe, in the face of exactly zero evidence to the contrary, that the government isn't tracking your every move and communication, but please, just try to be sane for a day or so. You might appreciate life more.


Of course they aren't targeting me. But I think if you look at all the cases of people being added to the No-Fly List and the controversy surrounding that, if you look at the cases of the FBI attempting to "infiltrate" mosques (the Irvine Mosque in OC is a particularly good example), if you look at the NYPD's surveillance of Muslims, it's pretty clear that "ordinary American" doesn't include Muslims. And we allow them to go after Muslims, even in the complete absence of evidence they are doing anything wrong, because they're a politically safe target to go after.

And so if you asked me "do you think the NSA is tracking Muslims for no other reason than they are exercising their constitutionally-protected rights to free exercise of religion and freedom of speech and freedom of assembly?" I would respond that you'd have to be stupid to think they aren't. The same probably goes for anti-war activists, for political dissidents, for people the government doesn't like. And that's the real danger - that the government has an increased power to go after the people it doesn't like. They can find out if they are smoking pot and then arrange for local law enforcement to bust them. They can leak their porn browsing habits to discredit the Imam that happens to like interracial gang bang videos. They can make people a little more wary, a little less willing to speak out.
 
2013-12-17 04:58:32 PM
I gave up on '60 Minutes' after they ran the Dan Rather hit piece.
 
2013-12-17 05:54:18 PM
They lost credibility years ago. Their sloppy reporting on "unintended acceleration" in Audi cars nearly destroyed that brand in North America.
 
2013-12-17 06:11:39 PM
lol    60 minutes is going to be 60 seconds if they don't learn to stop the puff stories.  they had their tongues way up the NSA's ass on that last one.

maybe they just wanted to get out of that building alive.   Fear can cause strange behavior.
 
2013-12-17 06:12:26 PM

TheGogmagog: gopher321: What a sad fall from the show's heyday in the '70s/early '80s. Money talks I guess.

As Deep Throat said, "Follow the Money."



True.  the Money will always lead to interesting places......
 
2013-12-17 06:13:46 PM

eyeq360: TheGogmagog: Muta: Repeat but the story needs to be repeated.  We won't get a press that isn't a government propaganda machine unless we demand more from them and callout the worst offenders.

I was thinking it wasn't really a followup but continued biatching, but as you say. Repeat away.  We need  a Frontline report on 60 minute's shillery.

I like Frontline.  It's an excellent show.  Too bad that news programs aren't more like Frontline or the other news shows on PBS.



PBS's Frontline and NOVA kicks ass.  period.  hell, even Republicans watch those two.  as much as they hate 'liberal' PBS.
 
2013-12-17 07:04:53 PM

ethernet76: 60 minutes is just more sensational garbage designed to sell ads. After their retraction of the Bengazhi story you'd think they'd try harder at basic journalistic duties.

Nope, more crap. I understand having the NSA tell their side of the story, but there is a responsibility to call bullshiat on liars when you're the only one in the room.


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I'm not being defensive! You're the one who's being defensive! Why is always the other person who's being defensive? Have you ever asked yourself that? Why don't you ask yourself that?
 
2013-12-17 10:47:11 PM
As opposed to that article, which was just chock full of no information and lack of specifics?
 
2013-12-18 12:04:49 AM
fusillade762:

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I'm not being defensive! You're the one who's being defensive! Why is always the other person who's being defensive? Have you ever asked yourself that? Why don't you ask yourself that?


Thanks... God, that brings back memories.
 
2013-12-18 02:21:10 AM

PawisBetlog: Does this rise to the level of "TRAVSHAMOCKERY" though?

I'm not sure.


No making up words.

Bergleflickle!
 
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