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(Time)   The ten worst things TV did to us this year. Missing from the list: Homeland   (entertainment.time.com) divider line 60
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2013-12-17 08:36:53 AM  
Walking Dead is missing, too. Or, at least, the entire first half of the season.
 
2013-12-17 08:37:50 AM  
Ohh cmon, Hemlock wasn't THAT bad
 
2013-12-17 08:38:25 AM  
I still kind of feel like a jerk for bailing on Homeland after season 2.
 
kab
2013-12-17 08:41:47 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Ohh cmon, Hemlock wasn't THAT bad


You're right.  It was even worse.
 
2013-12-17 08:43:48 AM  
I guess Derek doesn't count because it's on Netflix. I barely made it through one episode of that. Old age homes are not funny. Give Karl Pilkington his own show again. That is where the money is.
 
2013-12-17 08:47:54 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Walking Dead is missing, too. Or, at least, the entire first half of the season.




I came to the thread expecting someone slamming The Walking Dead. Sadly it was the Boobies.
 
2013-12-17 08:56:57 AM  

Solty Dog: I guess Derek doesn't count because it's on Netflix. I barely made it through one episode of that. Old age homes are not funny. Give Karl Pilkington his own show again. That is where the money is.


I tried twice to watch the first episode and I just couldn't get through it.
 
2013-12-17 08:58:02 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Walking Dead is missing, too. Or, at least, the entire first half of the season.


The mid-season finale was good, but the bulk of it was so damn slooooow. I thought it was broadcast  24-style.
 
2013-12-17 09:02:56 AM  
Obvious spoiler alert is obvious but...

Tara getting steak-forked in SoA.
 
2013-12-17 09:03:26 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Ohh cmon, Hemlock wasn't THAT bad


Well there went that last shred of credibility you had.
 
2013-12-17 09:08:25 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Pocket Ninja: Walking Dead is missing, too. Or, at least, the entire first half of the season.

I came to the thread expecting someone slamming The Walking Dead. Sadly it was the Boobies.




Darn Fark filter.
 
2013-12-17 09:12:45 AM  

Solty Dog: I guess Derek doesn't count because it's on Netflix. I barely made it through one episode of that. Old age homes are not funny. Give Karl Pilkington his own show again. That is where the money is.


Look up "The Moaning of Life".  It's another Pilkington travel show, except it's Karl choosing where to go and what to do instead of Gervais farking around with him.
 
2013-12-17 09:13:13 AM  

jonterry4: Pocket Ninja: Walking Dead is missing, too. Or, at least, the entire first half of the season.

The mid-season finale was good, but the bulk of it was so damn slooooow. I thought it was broadcast  24-style.


I actually rather liked this season, and the Governor episodes :\

I didn't particularly care for how quickly he became "in charge," though.

"Hi, everyone.. can we move in?  Yeah?  Great!  Okay, now that I've unpacked, I'd like you to all go to war for me.  Cool?"
 
2013-12-17 09:19:57 AM  
But what happened to Brodie's daughter's boyfriend! I need to know! They can't leave me hanging.
 
2013-12-17 09:23:14 AM  

Relatively Obscure: I didn't particularly care for how quickly he became "in charge," though.


The guy in charge of writing this year has more or less stated they are correcting the story arc because they felt they took too long to wrap up the prison.
 
2013-12-17 09:26:00 AM  

Relatively Obscure: and the Governor episodes :\


The governor episodes were what rescued this season from being an utter catastrophe. In fact, that episode with him watching the prison was going to be the last one I watched. I was done with the pointless, predictable, badly written, full of glaring plot holes idiocy. Seeing him convinced me to give it one more episode, and things improved -- to a point -- after that point. But they need to get some writers on that staff who aren't awful, because they can't afford to throw away another half season on the hopes of audience goodwill anymore.
 
2013-12-17 09:30:23 AM  

Pocket Ninja: But they need to get some writers on that staff who aren't awful, because they can't afford to throw away another half season on the hopes of audience goodwill anymore.


They have Gimple overseeing the production now, and he was responsible for some of the shows best episodes.
 
2013-12-17 09:31:20 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Relatively Obscure: and the Governor episodes :\

The governor episodes were what rescued this season from being an utter catastrophe. In fact, that episode with him watching the prison was going to be the last one I watched. I was done with the pointless, predictable, badly written, full of glaring plot holes idiocy. Seeing him convinced me to give it one more episode, and things improved -- to a point -- after that point. But they need to get some writers on that staff who aren't awful, because they can't afford to throw away another half season on the hopes of audience goodwill anymore.


That's the problem with Walking Dead.  No matter how bad each episode is, it always feels like it could turn around on a dime.  Even after a terrible episode, there's usually enough potential in the final five minutes to go "well, next week will probably be better.  I might as well at least check it out."
 
2013-12-17 09:32:18 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Relatively Obscure: and the Governor episodes :\

The governor episodes were what rescued this season from being an utter catastrophe. In fact, that episode with him watching the prison was going to be the last one I watched. I was done with the pointless, predictable, badly written, full of glaring plot holes idiocy. Seeing him convinced me to give it one more episode, and things improved -- to a point -- after that point. But they need to get some writers on that staff who aren't awful, because they can't afford to throw away another half season on the hopes of audience goodwill anymore.




The Walking Dead has improved each season. They are not surviving on good will.
 
2013-12-17 09:33:50 AM  
"Fox's Dads, among the worst of 2013's worst."

I'll give you two good reasons why I watch Dads.

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2013-12-17 09:41:33 AM  

Solty Dog: I guess Derek doesn't count because it's on Netflix. I barely made it through one episode of that. Old age homes are not funny. Give Karl Pilkington his own show again. That is where the money is.


I really wanted to like Derek. I even gave it to the third episode. It's like the writers can't decide if it's supposed to be funny or sad. Either one could be really good with Gervais, but waffling in the middle is unbearable.

Same with Hemlock Grove. I stuck it out for the full season because I was so hopeful coming off of House of Cards. It was a bad CW fantasy show (redundant?) with terrible Canadian actors pretending not to be Canadian. Had it not been for the possibility of nudity at any given moment, I would have never made it through the season.
 
2013-12-17 09:42:24 AM  
P.S. - Also missing - "Under the Dome".
 
2013-12-17 09:50:04 AM  
Is The Following really that bad?  I was thinking about watching it on Netflix.
 
2013-12-17 09:58:10 AM  
One word: Bravo.
 
2013-12-17 10:01:12 AM  

imontheinternet: Is The Following really that bad?  I was thinking about watching it on Netflix.


I was so excited for that show. I like Kevin Bacon, he's done good in some odd roles. The show started out great, and it tumbled so fast. I think I made it through 9 episodes before I bailed. First 2 or 3 episodes left me wanting more, all the rest I watched me me want less.
 
2013-12-17 10:28:44 AM  

Into the blue again: I was so excited for that show. I like Kevin Bacon, he's done good in some odd roles. The show started out great, and it tumbled so fast. I think I made it through 9 episodes before I bailed. First 2 or 3 episodes left me wanting more, all the rest I watched me me want less.


Agreed, first 2 hooked me and then by 8 or 9 I was totally not even giving a shiat if they caught the guy, a little part of me wanted him to win and everyone else die
 
2013-12-17 10:31:09 AM  
Sons of Anarchy deserves an honourable mention. The third-to-last episode was good, the penultimate episode was great, and the finale was bleargh. Jax's planning is so atrocious it'd be a miracle if he could pour himself a bowl of Cheerios without getting a club member killed.
 
2013-12-17 10:35:32 AM  

ReapTheChaos: "Fox's Dads, among the worst of 2013's worst."

I'll give you two good reasons why I watch Dads.

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I gotta agree with you there.
 
2013-12-17 10:54:49 AM  
Low Winter Sun has been cancelled???!!!  What am I going to watch while waiting for next week's preview of Breaking Bad?
 
2013-12-17 11:27:22 AM  
I enjoyed Ray Donovan.
 
2013-12-17 11:40:04 AM  

Alfonse Gregory: Same with Hemlock Grove. I stuck it out for the full season because I was so hopeful coming off of House of Cards. It was a bad CW fantasy show (redundant?) with terrible Canadian actors pretending not to be Canadian. Had it not been for the possibility of nudity at any given moment, I would have never made it through the season.


You're stronger than me.  I checked out after episode six or seven.  The fact that I remember nothing about it non-boob related says it all.  It's like they blew their entire budget on that one "wolf out" scene and didn't have any left for writers.
 
2013-12-17 12:03:35 PM  

ReapTheChaos: "Fox's Dads, among the worst of 2013's worst."

I'll give you two good reasons why I watch Dads.

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ReapTheChaos: "Fox's Dads, among the worst of 2013's worst."

I'll give you two good reasons why I watch Dads.

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Wait, wasn't she on that Disney "Zack and Cody" show?  *Checks IMDB* Yep, and she was in "The Social Network" and has had recurring roles on "Scandal" and "New Girl" since then.  Looks like she's managed to build a post-Disney career, good for her.
 
2013-12-17 12:30:34 PM  

aendeuryu: Sons of Anarchy deserves an honourable mention. The third-to-last episode was good, the penultimate episode was great, and the finale was bleargh. Jax's planning is so atrocious it'd be a miracle if he could pour himself a bowl of Cheerios without getting a club member killed.


THIS.  The never-ending series of cluster farks they dream us is old.  From what I've heard,  we've only one more season to endure.

IdBeCrazyIf: Into the blue again: I was so excited for that show. I like Kevin Bacon, he's done good in some odd roles. The show started out great, and it tumbled so fast. I think I made it through 9 episodes before I bailed. First 2 or 3 episodes left me wanting more, all the rest I watched me me want less.

Agreed, first 2 hooked me and then by 8 or 9 I was totally not even giving a shiat if they caught the guy, a little part of me wanted him to win and everyone else die


I bailed after 3.
IMO - a series like that is the last thing we need on TV.
 
2013-12-17 12:45:04 PM  

The Briny Derp: I still kind of feel like a jerk for bailing on Homeland after season 2.


Don't feel bad - you can learn everything you need to know about the third season by watching the finale.
 
2013-12-17 01:15:24 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: The Briny Derp: I still kind of feel like a jerk for bailing on Homeland after season 2.

Don't feel bad - you can learn everything you need to know about the third season by watching the finale.



Wow. That's sad.
 
kab
2013-12-17 01:19:31 PM  

aendeuryu: Sons of Anarchy deserves an honourable mention. The third-to-last episode was good, the penultimate episode was great, and the finale was bleargh. Jax's planning is so atrocious it'd be a miracle if he could pour himself a bowl of Cheerios without getting a club member killed.


  I started watching this current season, but just can't muster it.   The idea that he can be clever enough to frame Clay for a murder he didn't commit, kill the drug boss in the last season, work out various deals etc, yet be retarded enough to not see the shiat his mother pulls (AFTER almost killing his children in a car accident) is simply absurd.

  Really, this show went off the rails back when they boarded a plane for Ireland.

wholedamnshow: I enjoyed Ray Donovan.


  I can't wait till season two, when he leaves the house for a couple days without telling his wife where he's going.
 
2013-12-17 01:25:22 PM  
Glad they included Lara Logan's 60 Minutes report.  That's exactly how to blow a crater in a decades-long reputation.
 
2013-12-17 01:52:01 PM  

Alfonse Gregory: P.S. - Also missing - "Under the Dome".


THIS. 1st episode showed great promise. Every episode after is LOL terrible.
 
2013-12-17 01:52:33 PM  

Solty Dog: I guess Derek doesn't count because it's on Netflix. I barely made it through one episode of that. Old age homes are not funny. Give Karl Pilkington his own show again. That is where the money is.


I saw one episode. Is it a comedy? Is Derek actually supposed to be funny? Are the sad, desperate and pathetic characters supposed to make me laugh with them or just feel horrible for them?
 
2013-12-17 02:18:42 PM  

verbaltoxin: I saw one episode. Is it a comedy? Is Derek actually supposed to be funny? Are the sad, desperate and pathetic characters supposed to make me laugh with them or just feel horrible for them?


Both. It's a bittersweet show.

It's a shame that people react in such a polarized way to it, since I think it's Gervais's best work so far.
 
2013-12-17 02:31:46 PM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: verbaltoxin: I saw one episode. Is it a comedy? Is Derek actually supposed to be funny? Are the sad, desperate and pathetic characters supposed to make me laugh with them or just feel horrible for them?

Both. It's a bittersweet show.

It's a shame that people react in such a polarized way to it, since I think it's Gervais's best work so far.


I didn't hate it. I usually really dig the funny/sad/weird stuff. "Wilfred" is one example I enjoy. But Derek just made me feel so down, even in the funny parts. I agree, however, that Gervais is really good in it. I'm impressed that he can play a mentally challenged person with heart and sensitivity and still be funny. It's just too high on the sad end of sad to funny ratio for me.

Now that I think about it, maybe it's really excellent but I can't take that much emotional investment. I was just too sad watching his reaction to the old woman dying and such.

/gentle soul
 
2013-12-17 03:48:05 PM  

Odd Bird: aendeuryu: Sons of Anarchy deserves an honourable mention. The third-to-last episode was good, the penultimate episode was great, and the finale was bleargh. Jax's planning is so atrocious it'd be a miracle if he could pour himself a bowl of Cheerios without getting a club member killed.

THIS.  The never-ending series of cluster farks they dream us is old.  From what I've heard,  we've only one more season to endure.

IdBeCrazyIf: Into the blue again: I was so excited for that show. I like Kevin Bacon, he's done good in some odd roles. The show started out great, and it tumbled so fast. I think I made it through 9 episodes before I bailed. First 2 or 3 episodes left me wanting more, all the rest I watched me me want less.

Agreed, first 2 hooked me and then by 8 or 9 I was totally not even giving a shiat if they caught the guy, a little part of me wanted him to win and everyone else die

I bailed after 3.
IMO - a series like that is the last thing we need on TV.


GET OUT OF MYYY HEAAAADD!

but yeah, both points are pretty much exactly what I was thinking-
utter excrement that does nothing  but feed the wrong kind of mindset
 
2013-12-17 03:53:38 PM  
Definitely Under the Dome. Every episode of that show makes the Dexter finale seem like intelligent and plausible writing.
 
2013-12-17 03:54:54 PM  
No.  Ray Donovan is fantastic television.

Orange is the New Black is a steaming pile.
 
2013-12-17 04:14:55 PM  

noheadphones: No.  Ray Donovan is fantastic television.

Orange is the New Black is a steaming pile.


8.5 out of 10 on IMDB and 89% on Rotten Tomatoes... Most people don't agree with you on that one...
 
2013-12-17 04:35:56 PM  

The Briny Derp: Ctrl-Alt-Del: The Briny Derp: I still kind of feel like a jerk for bailing on Homeland after season 2.

Don't feel bad - you can learn everything you need to know about the third season by watching the finale.


Wow. That's sad.


I suppose, but it was a pretty good finale
 
2013-12-17 05:03:41 PM  
What about "The Governor's Wife" on A&E? The creep factor on that show was off the charts.
 
kab
2013-12-17 06:08:38 PM  

noheadphones: No.  Ray Donovan is fantastic television.

Orange is the New Black is a steaming pile.


It's opposite day on FARK.
 
2013-12-17 06:09:28 PM  

mjones73: noheadphones: No.  Ray Donovan is fantastic television.

Orange is the New Black is a steaming pile.

8.5 out of 10 on IMDB and 89% on Rotten Tomatoes... Most people don't agree with you on that one...


No, he's right, it's bad. Men have been writing terrible female characters for eons now, and OITNB is the revenge -- the female characters are alright, but the male characters are just awful.
 
2013-12-17 06:19:35 PM  
Sean Saves the World needs to get in there.  And the cancellation of Happy Endings, if it's the worst things TV did to us.
 
2013-12-17 07:18:37 PM  

aendeuryu: mjones73: noheadphones: No.  Ray Donovan is fantastic television.

Orange is the New Black is a steaming pile.

8.5 out of 10 on IMDB and 89% on Rotten Tomatoes... Most people don't agree with you on that one...

No, he's right, it's bad. Men have been writing terrible female characters for eons now, and OITNB is the revenge -- the female characters are alright, but the male characters are just awful.


www.news4jax.com
 
2013-12-17 07:25:21 PM  
I don't think I've ever seen a show whose fans biatched about the show as much as Walking Dead fans. Good lord, you guys have been biatching since like the second episode. Personally, I don't really get how anyone can really be that into Zombies. If you've seen the first 3 Living Dead movies, you have seen pretty much every iteration of the zombie trope.


I also wish people would stop dumping solely on Dexter's finale. Granted, it wasn't a good ending, but the whole season was really bad and the ending was just par for the course. The whole last season felt like the actors and writers just running out the clock.

Hemlock Grove was watchable for about one episode, but oh man did it turn really bad after that.
 
2013-12-17 07:26:02 PM  
Apparently this was written before Carrie Underwood's The Sound of Music

\and just think, just two short months before we find out how badly NBC can fark up another Olympics
 
2013-12-17 08:23:25 PM  

fusillade762: aendeuryu: mjones73: noheadphones: No.  Ray Donovan is fantastic television.

Orange is the New Black is a steaming pile.

8.5 out of 10 on IMDB and 89% on Rotten Tomatoes... Most people don't agree with you on that one...

No, he's right, it's bad. Men have been writing terrible female characters for eons now, and OITNB is the revenge -- the female characters are alright, but the male characters are just awful.

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That guy's a rapist. Yeah, the show Romeo and Juliette'd it up, but he'd be on the sex offender registry in a second if they were caught.
 
2013-12-17 08:55:44 PM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Into the blue again: I was so excited for that show. I like Kevin Bacon, he's done good in some odd roles. The show started out great, and it tumbled so fast. I think I made it through 9 episodes before I bailed. First 2 or 3 episodes left me wanting more, all the rest I watched me me want less.

Agreed, first 2 hooked me and then by 8 or 9 I was totally not even giving a shiat if they caught the guy, a little part of me wanted him to win and everyone else die


Given its casting and plot ideas, The Following would have been a pretty good movie.

There wasn't nearly enough depth of material to support a single season of a series, let alone multiple seasons. I have no idea where they think they are going with it.
 
2013-12-17 09:36:04 PM  
Low Winter Sun - the only thing good about that show was the delicious snark in the Breaking Bad threads.

Under The Dome must have paid someone to stay off the list.

Sad that Dexter is now going down in TV history as the most universally hated finale in history (deservedly so.)  The loathing is so bad, it eclipses how great the show was at one point.
 
2013-12-17 10:22:23 PM  

aendeuryu: mjones73: noheadphones: No.  Ray Donovan is fantastic television.

Orange is the New Black is a steaming pile.

8.5 out of 10 on IMDB and 89% on Rotten Tomatoes... Most people don't agree with you on that one...

No, he's right, it's bad. Men have been writing terrible female characters for eons now, and OITNB is the revenge -- the female characters are alright, but the male characters are just awful.


I don't know... Healy and the two mustachio'd guards are fun caricatures. Even Jason Biggs' guy is well developed. I think part of the charm of the show is that there are no truly likable or hateable characters.

That said, One-Leg Guard-Daddy is terrible.
 
2013-12-17 10:25:00 PM  

FeedTheCollapse: The whole last season felt like the actors and writers just running out the clock.


The direction and editing felt phoned-in too. There were strange pauses and weird story-boarding at times in the show that were inconsistent with the way things were even in Season 7.
 
2013-12-17 10:29:41 PM  

Confabulat: Definitely Under the Dome. Every episode of that show makes the Dexter finale seem like intelligent and plausible writing.


Precisely.

Plus who gives a fark about anyone in that town? They're all annoying as piss, Pipe some hydrogen cyanide in, since the "dome" which is apparently actually a "sphere" is evidently permeable to gas but not explosives and extreme heat. Elseswise they'd all have mercifully suffocated by now.
 
2013-12-17 11:14:47 PM  

Alfonse Gregory: aendeuryu: mjones73: noheadphones: No.  Ray Donovan is fantastic television.

Orange is the New Black is a steaming pile.

8.5 out of 10 on IMDB and 89% on Rotten Tomatoes... Most people don't agree with you on that one...

No, he's right, it's bad. Men have been writing terrible female characters for eons now, and OITNB is the revenge -- the female characters are alright, but the male characters are just awful.

I don't know... Healy and the two mustachio'd guards are fun caricatures. Even Jason Biggs' guy is well developed. I think part of the charm of the show is that there are no truly likable or hateable characters.

That said, One-Leg Guard-Daddy is terrible.


When the best male characters on a show are two-dimensional jokes, then you've got a problem. Again, turnabout is fair play as female characters have gotten the same lousy writing treatment as well, but when you're in a situation where certain characters are deeply involved and help drive facets of plot, and they're poorly-written, it's problematic. OITNB passes the Bechdel Test in spades, but there's more to a show than just that.
 
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