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(RTCC)   Fracking can cause birth defects and cancer. No, FRACKING   (rtcc.org ) divider line
    More: Scary, cause birth defects, birth defects, endocrine disruptors, gas wells, infertility, endocrinology, oil spill, cancers  
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1613 clicks; posted to Geek » on 17 Dec 2013 at 8:43 AM (2 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-12-17 08:53:00 AM  
So say we all
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-12-17 08:54:19 AM  
I don't know about cancer, but it certainly causes births.
 
2013-12-17 09:12:21 AM  
Driving could cause death or serious injury. Doesn't mean we shouldn't do it.
 
2013-12-17 09:19:34 AM  
"We found more endocrine-disrupting activity in the water close to drilling locations that had experienced spills than at control sites," said Nagel."This could raise the risk of reproductive, metabolic, neurological and other diseases, especially in children who are exposed to EDCs."She adds that, in the US, there are no federal regulations to protect water quality affected by the fracking process, in spite of studies showing its impact upon groundwater

So you found higher edc levels near well that had spills.  These spills are regulated by the EPA and OSHA but we do not have regulations to protect water quality..... well OK then.
 
2013-12-17 10:06:21 AM  

Saiga410: "We found more endocrine-disrupting activity in the water close to drilling locations that had experienced spills than at control sites," said Nagel."This could raise the risk of reproductive, metabolic, neurological and other diseases, especially in children who are exposed to EDCs."She adds that, in the US, there are no federal regulations to protect water quality affected by the fracking process, in spite of studies showing its impact upon groundwater

So you found higher edc levels near well that had spills.  These spills are regulated by the EPA and OSHA but we do not have regulations to protect water quality..... well OK then.


I believe that fracking fluids are specifically exempt from the Clean Water Act.  And they have some severely nasty solvents in them.
 
2013-12-17 10:22:00 AM  

GRCooper: So say we all


nice
 
2013-12-17 10:29:21 AM  
Not sure of the point of that study:  Building PC's uses chemicals that might cause harm if people are exposed to them...so what?


I know, fracking releases those chemicals into the environment...still a bit of a "if A and then if B, and then if C" type of argument...
 
2013-12-17 10:45:52 AM  
Of course it can. But at least we'll be warm when we're getting our chemotherapy.
 
2013-12-17 10:59:50 AM  
Fracking kicked my dog and stole my pickup.
 
2013-12-17 11:14:04 AM  

vpb: I don't know about cancer, but it certainly causes births.


Yeah, you have to be born to have cancer, so yeah, it causes cancer...
 
2013-12-17 12:15:29 PM  
Saw site name, stopped reading there.
 
2013-12-17 01:38:45 PM  
But I have to have dead animals and plants that condensed into a thick sludgy goop! If I don't have that, I'll die.
 
2013-12-17 01:50:22 PM  

Pingu: Driving could cause death or serious injury. Doesn't mean we shouldn't do it.


The risks and benefits of driving are easy to ascertain and (usually) only affect the people who participate. There's also a considerable battery of safety measures and regulations in place aimed at reducing that risk whenever possible.

None of that seems to be true with fracking, however. A considerable number of the chemicals in use remain "trade secrets", regulations are relatively lax, it's an industry with more than a century-long history of killing and contaminating wherever it goes and their only defense to accusations of current contamination seems to be "you can trust me!" Worst of all, any contamination that escapes doesn't just affect Cletus and Betty Lou who signed the drilling lease, it affects anybody downstream who doesn't even get a cut of the profit.

It's sort of hard not to default to the side of environmentalists and public health groups given all that.

Maybe the benefits do outweigh the risks, but given that the only argument put forward by the industry on the matter of safety generally seems to be "trust me", I don't see how you could say we know that to be true right now.
 
2013-12-17 01:57:14 PM  

Pingu: Driving could cause death or serious injury. Doesn't mean we shouldn't do it.


Mutual exclusivity.


Dancin_In_Anson: Fracking kicked my dog and stole my pickup.


And if it did you would probably still be in favor of it.  But I would guess that if fracking caused anti-gun laws you would instantly be against it.
 
2013-12-17 02:06:40 PM  
I would post a pic of number six with a witty comment about fracking this is definitely hazardous to your health, but I am posting this from the shiatter at work on my phone.

//just thought you all should know
//did I over share again?
 
2013-12-17 02:31:13 PM  
FTA
Colorado River, which provides the drainage for the drilling sites across Garfield County, had moderate levels of the chemicals.


Maybe if we were talking about PA and not CO.

Drilling sites in CO are not allowed to discharge anything into rivers or any tributary. The watershed is regularly monitored by private 3rd parties for such violations (including groundwater).

But, who expects facts from a "climate change" FUD site.
 /brother is a hydrologist and works in CO doing post-drilling water quality assessments and mandated watershed impact evaluations that must occur prior to drilling leases being granted.
 
2013-12-17 02:53:47 PM  
FTFA:
Water samples taken from the drilling sites showed a higher level of the hormone-disrupting chemical, showing up quantities that could interfere with the body's response to testosterone and the reproductive hormone oestrogen.

WHICH ONE?  What chemical?  Is this just bad grammar?

///
On a side note:  The thing my father says is actually the worst part is we're taking water out of the water cycle and pumping it far underground, under the aquifers, never to be seen again (or for a few million years).  So fracking is disrupting the natural flow of evaporation->rain and all that stuff.  It's not the chemicals that are the issue but that we're slowly removing a key part of the ecology from the natural order.
Which is an interesting point.
 
2013-12-17 04:44:55 PM  

Reverend Monkeypants: FTFA:
Water samples taken from the drilling sites showed a higher level of the hormone-disrupting chemical, showing up quantities that could interfere with the body's response to testosterone and the reproductive hormone oestrogen.

WHICH ONE?  What chemical?  Is this just bad grammar?

///
On a side note:  The thing my father says is actually the worst part is we're taking water out of the water cycle and pumping it far underground, under the aquifers, never to be seen again (or for a few million years).  So fracking is disrupting the natural flow of evaporation->rain and all that stuff.  It's not the chemicals that are the issue but that we're slowly removing a key part of the ecology from the natural order.
Which is an interesting point.


Several million gallons are being removed from a system that can be measured in the several million cubic miles.  This changes everything.
 
2013-12-17 05:28:50 PM  

Saiga410: Reverend Monkeypants: FTFA:
Water samples taken from the drilling sites showed a higher level of the hormone-disrupting chemical, showing up quantities that could interfere with the body's response to testosterone and the reproductive hormone oestrogen.

WHICH ONE?  What chemical?  Is this just bad grammar?

///
On a side note:  The thing my father says is actually the worst part is we're taking water out of the water cycle and pumping it far underground, under the aquifers, never to be seen again (or for a few million years).  So fracking is disrupting the natural flow of evaporation->rain and all that stuff.  It's not the chemicals that are the issue but that we're slowly removing a key part of the ecology from the natural order.
Which is an interesting point.

Several million gallons are being removed from a system that can be measured in the several million cubic miles.  This changes everything.


Eh...  It is usually removed on a local level, not from the ocean.  I'm agreeing or anything, I was just sayin' it's a point I'd never heard.
 
2013-12-17 07:08:50 PM  

Reverend Monkeypants: Saiga410: Reverend Monkeypants: FTFA:
Water samples taken from the drilling sites showed a higher level of the hormone-disrupting chemical, showing up quantities that could interfere with the body's response to testosterone and the reproductive hormone oestrogen.

WHICH ONE?  What chemical?  Is this just bad grammar?

///
On a side note:  The thing my father says is actually the worst part is we're taking water out of the water cycle and pumping it far underground, under the aquifers, never to be seen again (or for a few million years).  So fracking is disrupting the natural flow of evaporation->rain and all that stuff.  It's not the chemicals that are the issue but that we're slowly removing a key part of the ecology from the natural order.
Which is an interesting point.

Several million gallons are being removed from a system that can be measured in the several million cubic miles.  This changes everything.

Eh...  It is usually removed on a local level, not from the ocean.  I'm agreeing or anything, I was just sayin' it's a point I'd never heard.


Amazing how dumb that sentence is.  'Local level' means extremely little when the primary driver of the water cycle is heat driven evaporation and then precipitation, which very rarely occurs in the same areas.
 
2013-12-17 08:53:09 PM  
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"Uh-oh..."
 
2013-12-17 10:43:23 PM  

Saiga410: Reverend Monkeypants: FTFA:
Water samples taken from the drilling sites showed a higher level of the hormone-disrupting chemical, showing up quantities that could interfere with the body's response to testosterone and the reproductive hormone oestrogen.

WHICH ONE?  What chemical?  Is this just bad grammar?

///
On a side note:  The thing my father says is actually the worst part is we're taking water out of the water cycle and pumping it far underground, under the aquifers, never to be seen again (or for a few million years).  So fracking is disrupting the natural flow of evaporation->rain and all that stuff.  It's not the chemicals that are the issue but that we're slowly removing a key part of the ecology from the natural order.
Which is an interesting point.

Several million gallons are being removed from a system that can be measured in the several million cubic miles.  This changes everything.

[Citation Needed]
 
2013-12-17 10:48:23 PM  

Reverend Monkeypants: FTFA:
Water samples taken from the drilling sites showed a higher level of the hormone-disrupting chemical, showing up quantities that could interfere with the body's response to testosterone and the reproductive hormone oestrogen.

WHICH ONE?  What chemical?  Is this just bad grammar?

///
On a side note:  The thing my father says is actually the worst part is we're taking water out of the water cycle and pumping it far underground, under the aquifers, never to be seen again (or for a few million years).  So fracking is disrupting the natural flow of evaporation->rain and all that stuff.  It's not the chemicals that are the issue but that we're slowly removing a key part of the ecology from the natural order.
Which is an interesting point.


Here is the even more interesting point. Most fluids that are used during the fracturing process are fluids that have already been retrieved from underground, which would never be able to be used anyway. Not surface water. I realize that it sounds better if they are using surface water, but, they aren't, so you and your fathers points are moot.

Oh wait, this is Fark. I mean Mute.
 
2013-12-17 10:56:53 PM  

xellas84: Reverend Monkeypants: Saiga410: Reverend Monkeypants: FTFA:
Water samples taken from the drilling sites showed a higher level of the hormone-disrupting chemical, showing up quantities that could interfere with the body's response to testosterone and the reproductive hormone oestrogen.

WHICH ONE?  What chemical?  Is this just bad grammar?

///
On a side note:  The thing my father says is actually the worst part is we're taking water out of the water cycle and pumping it far underground, under the aquifers, never to be seen again (or for a few million years).  So fracking is disrupting the natural flow of evaporation->rain and all that stuff.  It's not the chemicals that are the issue but that we're slowly removing a key part of the ecology from the natural order.
Which is an interesting point.

Several million gallons are being removed from a system that can be measured in the several million cubic miles.  This changes everything.

Eh...  It is usually removed on a local level, not from the ocean.  I'm agreeing or anything, I was just sayin' it's a point I'd never heard.

Amazing how dumb that sentence is.  'Local level' means extremely little when the primary driver of the water cycle is heat driven evaporation and then precipitation, which very rarely occurs in the same areas.


No shiat? You mean that the water that we have here doesn't instantly fall back upon us as rain in the same place that it originated from? And it falls somewhere else beside here?
Wow...just farking WoW! I'm livid about that!
 
2013-12-17 11:00:07 PM  

CutBoard: Saiga410: Reverend Monkeypants: FTFA:
Water samples taken from the drilling sites showed a higher level of the hormone-disrupting chemical, showing up quantities that could interfere with the body's response to testosterone and the reproductive hormone oestrogen.

WHICH ONE?  What chemical?  Is this just bad grammar?

///
On a side note:  The thing my father says is actually the worst part is we're taking water out of the water cycle and pumping it far underground, under the aquifers, never to be seen again (or for a few million years).  So fracking is disrupting the natural flow of evaporation->rain and all that stuff.  It's not the chemicals that are the issue but that we're slowly removing a key part of the ecology from the natural order.
Which is an interesting point.

Several million gallons are being removed from a system that can be measured in the several million cubic miles.  This changes everything.
[Citation Needed]


Oh wait, your right. It can be measured in "several million cubic miles".
Then again, everything in volume can be measured that way. They just have to learn how to divide.
 
2013-12-17 11:23:38 PM  

xellas84: Reverend Monkeypants: Saiga410: Reverend Monkeypants: FTFA:
Water samples taken from the drilling sites showed a higher level of the hormone-disrupting chemical, showing up quantities that could interfere with the body's response to testosterone and the reproductive hormone oestrogen.

WHICH ONE?  What chemical?  Is this just bad grammar?

///
On a side note:  The thing my father says is actually the worst part is we're taking water out of the water cycle and pumping it far underground, under the aquifers, never to be seen again (or for a few million years).  So fracking is disrupting the natural flow of evaporation->rain and all that stuff.  It's not the chemicals that are the issue but that we're slowly removing a key part of the ecology from the natural order.
Which is an interesting point.

Several million gallons are being removed from a system that can be measured in the several million cubic miles.  This changes everything.

Eh...  It is usually removed on a local level, not from the ocean.  I'm agreeing or anything, I was just sayin' it's a point I'd never heard.

Amazing how dumb that sentence is.  'Local level' means extremely little when the primary driver of the water cycle is heat driven evaporation and then precipitation, which very rarely occurs in the same areas.


No no, you don't get what I'm saying.  I'm saying they pull water from local aquifers (which takes years to replenish *see Denver*) and then pump it underground where it is removed entirely from the system.  Look man, I'm not supporting or knocking the point, just revealing it.
 
2013-12-17 11:24:57 PM  
Ahhh... never mind.  I wasn't saying anything at all except that the water is removed from the cycle.

Go back to your cupcakes and hotdogs, kids.
 
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