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(The Dish)   Is Fox News the most anti-Christian force in the media today?   (dish.andrewsullivan.com) divider line 53
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2013-12-17 08:23:16 AM  
This article is just another example of the war on the war on Christians.
 
2013-12-17 08:38:02 AM  
It depends if you mean Christians who do what Jeebus said, or "Christians" who can't stop thinking about all those evil, dirty, penises going into men's bums.
 
2013-12-17 08:48:31 AM  

Barfmaker: It depends if you mean Christians who do what Jeebus said, or "Christians" who can't stop thinking about all those evil, dirty, penises going into men's bums.


There really needs to be some sort of delimiter.
 
2013-12-17 08:49:24 AM  
They go to bat for Patriot Jesus.

You guys don't actually think these people have read the Bible, do you?
 
2013-12-17 08:50:16 AM  
Yes.
Next question
 
2013-12-17 08:51:28 AM  
 
2013-12-17 08:51:42 AM  
Shocking. Christians not understanding their own religion.
 
2013-12-17 08:52:29 AM  
FOX News worships Mammon disguised as Republican Jesus,  so yeah.

They promote intolerance, champion wealth inequity, mock the poor and revel in the worship of money.

Doesn't get much more anti-Christian than that.
 
2013-12-17 08:52:52 AM  

www.thepaincomics.com


We need a counterpart term for "Christian" to refer to followers of Jeezus.
 
2013-12-17 08:57:11 AM  

Tomahawk513: Barfmaker: It depends if you mean Christians who do what Jeebus said, or "Christians" who can't stop thinking about all those evil, dirty, penises going into men's bums.

There really needs to be some sort of delimiter.


Kilts, oatmeal, sugar.
 
2013-12-17 09:01:50 AM  
They're certainly the most exploitative.
 
2013-12-17 09:06:41 AM  

abb3w: [www.thepaincomics.com image 500x704]
We need a counterpart term for "Christian" to refer to followers of Jeezus.


"Real American"?
 
2013-12-17 09:08:18 AM  
If Huckabee's still there, yes.
 
2013-12-17 09:10:13 AM  

abb3w: We need a counterpart term for "Christian" to refer to followers of Jeezus.


Christians have one already, it's heretic.
 
2013-12-17 09:10:17 AM  

abb3w: [www.thepaincomics.com image 500x704]
We need a counterpart term for "Christian" to refer to followers of Jeezus.


I remember hearing the term "Christianist" once upon a time to refer to Jeezus's adherents.
 
2013-12-17 09:10:31 AM  

abb3w: [www.thepaincomics.com image 500x704]
We need a counterpart term for "Christian" to refer to followers of Jeezus.


Satanists???
 
2013-12-17 09:24:46 AM  
I'm going to say no, but it's quite probable that they are the most anti-Christian force in the media among those who pretend to be Christian.
 
2013-12-17 09:26:29 AM  

abb3w: [www.thepaincomics.com image 500x704]
We need a counterpart term for "Christian" to refer to followers of Jeezus.


Monetarists.
 
2013-12-17 09:30:03 AM  

abb3w: [www.thepaincomics.com image 500x704]
We need a counterpart term for "Christian" to refer to followers of Jeezus.


Jeez-Its
 
2013-12-17 09:38:53 AM  

abb3w: We need a counterpart term for "Christian" to refer to followers of Jeezus.


Mammonites?
 
2013-12-17 09:45:41 AM  
Easy now fellows.. the FOX News crowd doesn't have their talking points they are paid to post yet.
 
2013-12-17 09:47:42 AM  

Barfmaker: It depends if you mean Christians who do what Jeebus said, or "Christians" who can't stop thinking about all those evil, dirty, penises going into men's bums.


This is what I can tell about you if you tell me you're a Christian:

1. You call yourself a Christian.
 
2013-12-17 09:54:25 AM  

abb3w: We need a counterpart term for "Christian" to refer to followers of Jeezus.


media-cdn.tripadvisor.com

Bull worshipers
 
2013-12-17 10:00:11 AM  
These people think that "Jesus" was Ayn Rand's middle name.
 
Bf+
2013-12-17 10:14:52 AM  
The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing your uncle to watch FoxNews.
 
2013-12-17 10:22:52 AM  
Yes.
 
2013-12-17 10:45:34 AM  

qorkfiend: abb3w: [www.thepaincomics.com image 500x704]
We need a counterpart term for "Christian" to refer to followers of Jeezus.

I remember hearing the term "Christianist" once upon a time to refer to Jeezus's adherents.


I like Paulists or Paulines because they clearly embrace the teachings of Paul and his obsession with salvation by faith and not by works (and casual misogyny) more than they follow anything Jesus said.
 
2013-12-17 12:17:26 PM  
... Is this a trick question?
 
2013-12-17 12:18:41 PM  
Yes.

In the country though, the most Anti Christian force is the National Apostolic Reformation and Prosperity Gospel.
 
2013-12-17 12:23:35 PM  
FOX does a fine job of making regular Christians look bad by highlighting the weirdo Christians.
 
2013-12-17 01:19:28 PM  

qorkfiend: abb3w: [www.thepaincomics.com image 500x704]
We need a counterpart term for "Christian" to refer to followers of Jeezus.

I remember hearing the term "Christianist" once upon a time to refer to Jeezus's adherents.


I think that's what Andrew Sullivan (famous for this link) calls them.
 
2013-12-17 01:39:19 PM  

Epicedion: [FOX News] They're certainly the most exploitative.

Au contraire

. This fellow spends much less per dollar gained. And he has thousands of immitators. And he sells the highjacked "brand" 24/7 everywhere.

www.islamophobiatoday.com
 
2013-12-17 02:31:41 PM  

abb3w: We need a counterpart term for "Christian" to refer to followers of Jeezus.


would that term be similar to the ones who misrepresent the misrepresentation of following Jesus?

/among other things yall need
 
2013-12-17 02:37:01 PM  

abb3w: We need a counterpart term for "Christian" to refer to followers of Jeezus.


"Strawman."
 
2013-12-17 02:44:11 PM  

abb3w: [www.thepaincomics.com image 500x704]



On abortion:

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, ~Jeremiah 1:5

The second is this, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' There is no other commandment greater than these. ~Mark 12:31

I believe the term that you are looking for, people that misrepresent the Truth, is "Liar"...

/pants on fire
 
2013-12-17 03:04:41 PM  
A fetus isn't a neighbor.  It's a tenant.

/runs away
 
2013-12-17 03:29:57 PM  

sjmcc13: abb3w: [www.thepaincomics.com image 500x704]
We need a counterpart term for "Christian" to refer to followers of Jeezus.

Satanists???


I like this one, since I've been saying for a while now that the modern conservative movement simply insists that they worship Jesus but then in words and deed they pretty are worshipping Satan.

Substituting benefit cuts and other various policies which harm the poor and further advantage the rich in the place of caring for the poor and weak in society.
Substituting hate for "others" (gays, muslims, liberals, the French, etc...) for love for all.
Substituting retribution (mandatory minimum laws, "tough on crime", etc.) for forgiveness.
Substituting the sin of pride ("This is a christian nation!") for humility.
etc...

One by one modern "christians" aligned with the right use one hand to pat Jesus on the back while with the other they throw all of his teachings in the garbage. If I actually believed in any of that supernatural stuff I'm pretty sure I'd have little choice but to believe that Satan was behind the movment in an effort (which has been quite successful) to turn people away from the path to salvation that Jesus created by blashpemously twisting his teachings backwards.

Assuming he was not a fictional character, the greatest trick the devil ever played wasn't convincing the world he doesn't exist - it was convincing the right that he speaks for their god. What better way to win that game then to convince the other side's team that YOU are their coach?
 
2013-12-17 03:47:25 PM  

I drunk what: abb3w: We need a counterpart term for "Christian" to refer to followers of Jeezus.

would that term be similar to the ones who misrepresent the misrepresentation of following Jesus?

/among other things yall need


would the other things include the loving strong arms of jesus who will kick your ass into fiery eternal torture if you don't love him back?

the irrational paranoid masochism to surrender moral reasoning to a delusional worship of an imaginary ancient war diety?

a spanking?

on the edge of my seat here wondering
 
2013-12-17 06:16:50 PM  

inglixthemad: abb3w: We need a counterpart term for "Christian" to refer to followers of Jeezus.

Christians have one already, it's heretic.


That or Pharisee.
 
2013-12-18 10:14:45 AM  

wookiee cookie: would the other things include the loving strong arms of jesus who will kick your ass into fiery eternal torture if you don't love him back?


cause-effect, though I don't recall Jesus forcing you to take one path vs. another, does it make you feel better to put the blame on Him...?

should we reward liars with heaven?

wookiee cookie: a spanking?


some children react to spanking with even worse behavior, there are some that won't-can't be helped

Pants full of macaroni!!: A fetus isn't a neighbor.  It's a tenant.

/runs away


people like abbey have to lie to themselves about stuff like this in order comfort their conscious, covering it up with politics and drama seems to help
 
2013-12-18 11:13:41 AM  

I drunk what: should we reward liars with heaven?


Sure.  Why not?  Eternity is a really, really, really, long time.  Like, way longer than a millennium.  Liars will get over it once they see all the cool stuff they have up there.  Why be so mean spirited, IDW?  You must have a chip on your shoulder.
 
2013-12-18 01:55:41 PM  

vactech: Sure.  Why not?


i see, same goes for murderers, blasphemers, thieves, adulterers, etc...?  they all get a free pass?  so then up is down hot is cold and 2 + 2 = 6?

vactech: Eternity is a really, really, really, long time


correct.

vactech: Liars will get over it once they see all the cool stuff they have up there.


do you speak for them?  what happened to free will? don't they get to make that choice, who are you to decide for them?

vactech: Why be so mean spirited, IDW?


when I speak the Truth to you, I do not do it with any sort of anger or ill will, disappoint perhaps, but no malice.  would you prefer that I lie to you instead?  abbey seems to be much popular around these parts, perhaps that is his secret...?
 
2013-12-18 02:24:42 PM  

meat0918: Prosperity Gospel.


the catholic church lols at them noobs

meat0918: National Apostolic Reformation


"Unlike some parts of Protestant Christianity, these include the direct revelation of Christ to each believer, prophecy, and the performance of miracles such as healing." ~ wiki

I bet there is a scientific way to verify such claims...

my direct revelation said that they are full of cow manure, surely we can't both be right???

it's just too bad that humans lack the intelligence required to determine such... :(
 
2013-12-18 02:39:31 PM  

I drunk what: i see, same goes for murderers, blasphemers, thieves, adulterers, etc...?


I'm very opened minded like that.  You asked what we should do.  I gave you my answer.  Do not ask questions, where thou est not prepared for the answer, young Starling.

I drunk what: so then up is down hot is cold and 2 + 2 = 6?


All things are possible through God, lad.  ALL THINGS!

I drunk what: correct.


Or, is eternity so long that it becomes short?  That is the question a young naive Christian, such as yourself needs to ask.  You have much to learn about the true Truth, or as I like to call it The Tru-tru...or TTT in short.

I drunk what: do you speak for them? what happened to free will? don't they get to make that choice, who are you to decide for them?


Free will?  You are really out of touch with what the New Theologians are saying on this subject.  Geez, read a book man!  There are a number of philosophical problems with your questions above.  First, the nature of free will has to be taken into context, and metaphor when we apply the treatment of eternal heaven to it.  Second, the question 'do you speak for them?' doesn't apply. You're way off here, man. God speaks through us, and, if you've read your bible (I'm beginning to think you haven't), you'll note that God is love.  So....parse it out,brother.  Love, speaks through them, here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere, yes. Even between the land and the ship.

Basically, good and evil (free will) become intertwined into and eternal loop cycle in heaven, up and down take on a whole new dimension, where choices go beyond your petty feelings of disappointment.
 
2013-12-18 03:51:29 PM  

I drunk what: wookiee cookie: would the other things include the loving strong arms of jesus who will kick your ass into fiery eternal torture if you don't love him back?

cause-effect, though I don't recall Jesus forcing you to take one path vs. another, does it make you feel better to put the blame on Him...?

should we reward liars with heaven?

wookiee cookie: a spanking?

some children react to spanking with even worse behavior, there are some that won't-can't be helped

Pants full of macaroni!!: A fetus isn't a neighbor.  It's a tenant.

/runs away

people like abbey have to lie to themselves about stuff like this in order comfort their conscious, covering it up with politics and drama seems to help


your fake god set up the insanely evil rules of eternal torture for non believers. including young children, people born of circumstance in different cultures and good non believing people of all stripes. of course i blame "him". "he" designed the system.

you believe "liars" and other "sinners" deserve eternal torture in fire. that's severely farked up, my friend.

amazes me that people throw away their moral reasoning to worship such a despicably evil diety who promotes this unfathomably sadistic and unjust punishment/rewards system on "his" "beloved" children, puny and endlessly flawed human beings.

"infinite love and forgiveness" and "infinite punishment of hell" are incompatible moral concepts.

that's for starters why xianity is wrong and evil.

and you probably believe i deserve hell for my conclusions. sickening.

it's impossible for me to muster any respect for such a twisted worldview and its sadistic adherents.
 
2013-12-18 04:05:12 PM  

wookiee cookie: "infinite love and forgiveness" and "infinite punishment of hell" are incompatible moral concepts.


so then up is up and down is down?

at least you've figured out that much

can God be both Loving and Just at the same time or is that some sort of paradox from your viewpoint...?

would it help if I pointed out that God does not infinitely love and forgive ALL nor does He infinitely punish ALL?  the reason they are incompatible, is because you are not talking about the same thing.  perhaps you've been talking too much with those 'new age' "theologians"?
 
2013-12-18 04:10:42 PM  

wookiee cookie: moral reasoning


wookiee cookie: moral concepts


what is Morality?
 
2013-12-18 04:29:32 PM  

I drunk what: at the same time


er...God exists beyond time, my friend.  Whatever...you're not ready for this.
 
2013-12-18 04:54:15 PM  

vactech: I drunk what: at the same time

er...God exists beyond time, my friend.  Whatever...you're not ready for this.


almost thou persuadest me, perhaps you can return on a more convenient day?
 
2013-12-18 05:05:12 PM  

I drunk what: vactech: I drunk what: at the same time

er...God exists beyond time, my friend.  Whatever...you're not ready for this.

almost thou persuadest me, perhaps you can return on a more convenient day?


I said: What. Evar.

By all means.  Please proceed in leading this flock astray.  I won't stand before you.  But you'd better understand my ministry soon, lest YOU are faced with the proverbial Wason test before HIM.
 
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