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2013-12-17 06:57:28 AM  
The outrage for this will be magnificent. It truelly would take something this stupid for g+ to have a chance.
 
2013-12-17 07:00:10 AM  

NickelP: The outrage for this will be magnificent. It truelly would take something this stupid for g+ to have a chance.


I think this will sum up the sentiment that a lot of people have. I've already been rebuilding my empire in G+ and it will be fully operational when I get the chance. Still no orbital friendship cannon, though.
 
2013-12-17 07:04:16 AM  
I wonder what kind of session timer they will have.  There are serial refreshers out there who might take issue with a video starting every time.
 
2013-12-17 07:04:19 AM  

NickelP: The outrage for this will be magnificent. It truelly would take something this stupid for g+ to have a chance.

 
2013-12-17 07:05:37 AM  
Ads playing automatically will definitely increase traffic to the site! It will also encourage users to log on at work just to play the game of audio level roulette. Who doesn't enjoy being blasted in the ear hole by obnoxious ads at an unreasonable volume.

/In before "I don't have a Facebook account for x, y and z reasons.
 
2013-12-17 07:12:07 AM  

GlobalThunder: Ads playing automatically will definitely increase traffic to the site! It will also encourage users to log on at work just to play the game of audio level roulette. Who doesn't enjoy being blasted in the ear hole by obnoxious ads at an unreasonable volume.

/In before "I don't have a Facebook account for x, y and z reasons.


mobile facebook will be even better. That shiat doesn't even work 2/3 of the time and they managed to find time to add auto play video adds lol. I just love it when I get unexpected loud audio playing on my phone.
 
2013-12-17 07:15:56 AM  
Why don't browsers offer a configuration option to disable automatic running of videos?

Don't say it is impossible!
 
2013-12-17 07:16:59 AM  
Well...guess I'm switching to my___space...
 
2013-12-17 07:20:01 AM  
I won't be outraged, I'll just not visit the site.
 
2013-12-17 07:30:54 AM  

GlobalThunder: Ads playing automatically will definitely increase traffic to the site! It will also encourage users to log on at work just to play the game of audio level roulette. Who doesn't enjoy being blasted in the ear hole by obnoxious ads at an unreasonable volume.

/In before "I don't have a Facebook account for x, y and z reasons.


^this^
 
2013-12-17 07:45:57 AM  

NickelP: The outrage for this will be magnificent. It truelly would take something this stupid for g+ to have a chance.


Yup.
 
2013-12-17 07:49:19 AM  
Adblock and Ghostery will take care of these shenanigans.
 
2013-12-17 07:58:23 AM  
Autoplaying videos? In my news feed?

Well, bye.
 
2013-12-17 08:10:38 AM  

NickelP: The outrage for this will be magnificent. It truelly would take something this stupid for g+ to have a chance.


I was annoyed when a friend posted a video of their christmas lights and it auto played.  And I like them.  How do they think I'll react when I start getting 'But wait there's more!' crap shouted at me?

Never been to Google+ before.  Any advice for a noob?
 
2013-12-17 08:15:56 AM  

SomeoneDumb: I won't be outraged, I'll just not visit the site.


Sure, that sounds like a great idea, but how will you know what crazy antics your cousin's cats have been up to?
 
2013-12-17 08:23:50 AM  

Tricky Chicken: NickelP: The outrage for this will be magnificent. It truelly would take something this stupid for g+ to have a chance.

I was annoyed when a friend posted a video of their christmas lights and it auto played.  And I like them.  How do they think I'll react when I start getting 'But wait there's more!' crap shouted at me?

Never been to Google+ before.  Any advice for a noob?


Don't. There's no option for "show me things in the order they were posted". It's either "last modified" or "most revenue generating".

/actually pondering going back to Livejournal.
 
2013-12-17 08:30:20 AM  

Goimir: Tricky Chicken: NickelP: The outrage for this will be magnificent. It truelly would take something this stupid for g+ to have a chance.

I was annoyed when a friend posted a video of their christmas lights and it auto played.  And I like them.  How do they think I'll react when I start getting 'But wait there's more!' crap shouted at me?

Never been to Google+ before.  Any advice for a noob?

Don't. There's no option for "show me things in the order they were posted". It's either "last modified" or "most revenue generating".

/actually pondering going back to Livejournal.


What is the revenue generating catch for +?
 
2013-12-17 08:33:40 AM  
So glad I dumped FB when I did.  The last straw for me, which was tame compared to subsequent and planned changes, was when they changed the email address displayed on my profile to a FB email address.

Was reading an article the other day about how FB was now one of the largest players in the development of artificial intelligence, with the predictable goal of using it to automatically share pictures and other updates with who it thinks should be receiving them.

No thanks.
 
2013-12-17 08:34:32 AM  

Tricky Chicken: NickelP: The outrage for this will be magnificent. It truelly would take something this stupid for g+ to have a chance.

I was annoyed when a friend posted a video of their christmas lights and it auto played.  And I like them.  How do they think I'll react when I start getting 'But wait there's more!' crap shouted at me?

Never been to Google+ before.  Any advice for a noob?


Oh I have no idea. I have a g+ account but its only because I use pretty much every service Google has and they hook your ass in and basically require it. I'm not sure I've logged into it.

my comment wasn't meant to advocate gGoogle+. I was more commenting that Facebook has a huge market share advantage but a strong, well financed competitor that can't seem to steal their customers. Facebook had to monumentally piss off their members for g+ to really start to catch. Auto play videos might do it for a lot. Even if those that don't care don't switch immediately, once g+ hits a certain market share they will hit viral growth. The main argument people seem to have now is that no one is on it.
 
2013-12-17 08:47:45 AM  

Tricky Chicken: Goimir: Tricky Chicken: NickelP: The outrage for this will be magnificent. It truelly would take something this stupid for g+ to have a chance.

I was annoyed when a friend posted a video of their christmas lights and it auto played.  And I like them.  How do they think I'll react when I start getting 'But wait there's more!' crap shouted at me?

Never been to Google+ before.  Any advice for a noob?

Don't. There's no option for "show me things in the order they were posted". It's either "last modified" or "most revenue generating".

/actually pondering going back to Livejournal.

What is the revenue generating catch for +?


"Most popular", it's called. I mean, it's all run on data and what you're posting and what ads to throw at you in the google network, which I don't care about, but what pisses me off is I miss shiat that's going on because if it's not "popular" I miss it.
 
2013-12-17 08:49:15 AM  
Just waiting for political video ads to begin auto-playing in newsfeeds...
 
2013-12-17 08:53:34 AM  

arcas: Just waiting for political video ads to begin auto-playing in newsfeeds...


I was thinking that to. I think that's the end goal here. this won't be standard video advertising, it will be setup so people can easily share it. Successful adds will have huge multipliers to what's purchased and how many times it has been shared.
 
2013-12-17 09:02:58 AM  
Facebook Inc. will begin selling video advertisements later this week, according to people familiar with the matter. ... Facebook plans to make the announcement on Tuesday and the ads will begin on Thursday on users' feeds both on the Web and on smartphones, the people familiar with the matter said. ... The ads will play automatically in users' feeds, the people familiar with the matter said, regardless of whether users click on them.

This article was automatically generated by a Java applet, wasn't it?
 
2013-12-17 09:17:40 AM  

arcas: Just waiting for political video ads to begin auto-playing in newsfeeds...


The article says nothing about audio.  Is this crap goindg to make me have to keep my phone on mute all the time?  Or will it override mute?
 
2013-12-17 09:50:04 AM  

Tricky Chicken: arcas: Just waiting for political video ads to begin auto-playing in newsfeeds...

The article says nothing about audio.  Is this crap goindg to make me have to keep my phone on mute all the time?  Or will it override mute?


It will likely be required that you disable the ability to mute entirely, I'd say if I were the wagering type.
 
2013-12-17 09:51:51 AM  

Muta: Why don't browsers offer a configuration option to disable automatic running of videos?

Don't say it is impossible!



 We can make rockets that go into outer space out of near-indestructible materials.  Why can't a car company make a car where the bumper doesn't fall off?

i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-12-17 10:12:56 AM  
Coming April 2014, $5/month ad free Facebook accounts.  What kind of sucker would fall for that trick?
 
2013-12-17 10:18:15 AM  

Tricky Chicken: What is the revenue generating catch for +?


The Googleplex becomes more aware.
 
2013-12-17 10:28:35 AM  
Good luck, I'm behind 7 adblocks
 
2013-12-17 10:30:17 AM  

BunkyBrewman: Adblock and Ghostery will take care of these shenanigans.


^

They take care of pretty much everything!
 
2013-12-17 10:45:56 AM  
I wonder if AdBlockPlus will work against that? Auto play still happens on other sites I visit, but I never tried to stop it, I just go away from it.
 
2013-12-17 11:07:55 AM  

Mr.Tangent: Coming April 2014, $5/month ad free Facebook accounts.  What kind of sucker would fall for that trick?


I dunno but they would have to be pretty du..... oh.
 
2013-12-17 11:09:00 AM  
Yet another great reason for my wife and I to get off Facebook for 2014.

I had deleted mine for about a year before we got engaged and then I was forced to get a new profile.  After two years of diligent work pointing out all the security and privacy flaws, sneaky ads, and our friends' insufferable baby photos, my wife finally had enough and Facebook goes away Jan 1 forever (hopefully).
 
2013-12-17 11:21:05 AM  
The ads, which will play automatically in users' news feeds..

Yeah, fark you, facebook.
 
2013-12-17 11:22:40 AM  

Muta: Why don't browsers offer a configuration option to disable automatic running of videos?

Don't say it is impossible!


FlashControl is an extension for Chrome that does just that. All of my videos(At least Flash based ones) show up as a gray square with the 'Flash' symbol in it until I click on it.
 
2013-12-17 11:34:29 AM  
Considering I only really use the messaging portion of Facebook, this shouldn't affect me. That is of course unless I have to watch an ad every time I want to view an incoming message.

Hmm, I should just shut up before I give them more bad ideas...
 
2013-12-17 12:06:17 PM  

Mr.Tangent: Coming April 2014, $5/month ad free Facebook accounts.  What kind of sucker would fall for that trick?


I think they will go with the $5 a month to see everything in your feed, not just what the FB MCP thinks you should.
 
2013-12-17 02:10:41 PM  
Oh my god, stop validating EVERYTHING with "People familiar with the matter said".

Every farking paragraph...
 
2013-12-17 02:15:47 PM  
DNRTFA but presumably Adblock will take care of this just fine.  If not, then I guess I go from checking FB about 1 time a week to about 0 time per week.  Very little of value will be lost.
 
2013-12-17 03:30:18 PM  

BMFPitt: Autoplaying videos? In my news feed?

Well, bye.

 
2013-12-17 04:44:55 PM  
That would explain why some videos in my facebook feed start playing as soon as they hit the display now.
 
2013-12-17 04:48:32 PM  

The Crepes of Wrath: So glad I dumped FB when I did.  The last straw for me, which was tame compared to subsequent and planned changes, was when they changed the email address displayed on my profile to a FB email address.

Was reading an article the other day about how FB was now one of the largest players in the development of artificial intelligence, with the predictable goal of using it to automatically share pictures and other updates with who it thinks should be receiving them.

No thanks.


I have no idea how to check my Facebook email, if I was even so inclined.

I was annoyed the they put non-friend messages in an "other" tab without notifying users. An old contact reached out to me and I didn't see their not for 6 months.

I only use it to keep up with relatives, get party invites, or play the occassional game. I can go days without checking it. The videos will make it even less of a draw.
 
2013-12-17 04:56:58 PM  

HAMMERTOE: That would explain why some videos in my facebook feed start playing as soon as they hit the display now.


Yep.  I noticed that the other day when I checked in.  I'm starting to delete my photos, etc. now to thin out my account before I cancel it.
 
2013-12-17 06:01:04 PM  

RalphW: SomeoneDumb: I won't be outraged, I'll just not visit the site.

Sure, that sounds like a great idea, but how will you know what crazy antics your cousin's cats have been up to?


Good point. I didn't think of how empty and shallow my life would be without that. Losing all those "God only gives you what you can handle" messages might be worth it, though.
 
2013-12-17 07:34:50 PM  

Mikey1969: Muta: Why don't browsers offer a configuration option to disable automatic running of videos?

Don't say it is impossible!

FlashControl is an extension for Chrome that does just that. All of my videos(At least Flash based ones) show up as a gray square with the 'Flash' symbol in it until I click on it.


The firefox version is called Flashblock.
 
2013-12-17 07:41:34 PM  

BigMevy: HAMMERTOE: That would explain why some videos in my facebook feed start playing as soon as they hit the display now.

Yep.  I noticed that the other day when I checked in.  I'm starting to delete my photos, etc. now to thin out my account before I cancel it.


I've been told that this doesn't actually delete the photos, only makes them invisible to you; they'd still be stored on facebook's servers.
 
2013-12-17 08:41:55 PM  

Sim Tree: BigMevy: HAMMERTOE: That would explain why some videos in my facebook feed start playing as soon as they hit the display now.

Yep.  I noticed that the other day when I checked in.  I'm starting to delete my photos, etc. now to thin out my account before I cancel it.

I've been told that this doesn't actually delete the photos, only makes them invisible to you; they'd still be stored on facebook's servers.


Facebook doesn't delete anything, it just stops showing it.
 
2013-12-17 10:23:14 PM  
Executives told The Wall Street Journal in August Facebook planned to charge $2 million a day to let advertisers reach the full Facebook audience of adults aged 18 to 54.


Is this really how it works?  Pay for the whole thing a chunk at a time rather than add up all the actual views?

And what about targeting?  the "full Facebook audience of adults aged 18 to 54" might not be interested in certain things.

It seems way too simplistic.
 
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