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(IGN)   Paul Dini explains why Cartoon Network cancelled Young Justice. Turns out girls don't buy enough toys   (ign.com) divider line 65
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2013-12-17 06:22:10 AM  
Young Justice was a great cartoon. The animation was top notch and the writing was superb.  I just don't think it ever found a strong enough fan base.
 
2013-12-17 06:26:25 AM  
From other fans to the execs, no one seems to want female fans.
 
mhd
2013-12-17 06:37:14 AM  

Lackofname: From other fans to the execs, no one seems to want female fans.


They're perfectly happy with female fans of "girly shows", it just seems that no one wants to have both male and female fans in the same franchise. That really gets the execs confused.

/One other difference seems that more boys stick with the toys long after they're not boys anymore. You won't find that many 30something women collecting "princess" paraphernalia. Unless you count shoes.
 
2013-12-17 06:39:23 AM  
Both my daughters loved the show, and have action figures. So bite me Cartoon Network.

Reminds me with Nickelodeon and the way they handled merchandise for the Avatar: The Last Airbender series (cartoon, not movie). They didn't make any action figures of the two main female leads until well after the show ended, because they believed the boys in the world wouldn't want to play with them. Never mind the girls kicked as much if not more ass than almost any of the male leads during the coarse of the show.

Executives love to do things such stupid ways, just because that's the way they always did them. It isn't the 80s anymore, guys. Girls are getting into the super hero stuff and for some reason adult males make up the entirety of your My Little Pony fan base. These demographic marketing schemes don't work anymore and just get promising shows canceled.

Imagine if Batman TAS got shiatcanned because of lack of toys.
 
2013-12-17 06:41:50 AM  
Nice to have confirmation that stupidity at Warner Brothers is just corporate culture.
 
2013-12-17 06:42:17 AM  

mhd: Lackofname: From other fans to the execs, no one seems to want female fans.

They're perfectly happy with female fans of "girly shows", it just seems that no one wants to have both male and female fans in the same franchise. That really gets the execs confused.

/One other difference seems that more boys stick with the toys long after they're not boys anymore. You won't find that many 30something women collecting "princess" paraphernalia. Unless you count shoes.


You do see women in their 30s decorating they office in Wonder Woman though. Or at least my wife did.

It's like Kevin Smith said, sell them something else. Don't cancel the show because you can't figure out how to do your job.
 
2013-12-17 06:44:11 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Nice to have confirmation that stupidity at Warner Brothers is just corporate culture.


They havea fine amount of creative talent. The corporate weasles are to busy ssynergistily reworking the paradym to maximize their stratification.
 
2013-12-17 06:52:05 AM  

Shadowknight: for some reason adult males make up the entirety of your My Little Pony fan base.


Not the entirety. There's also adult females.
 
2013-12-17 06:57:36 AM  

doglover: Shadowknight: for some reason adult males make up the entirety of your My Little Pony fan base.

Not the entirety. There's also adult females.


True enough I guess. Somehow m more acceptable than this Brony thing. I'm not normally one for gender roles dictating anything, but these guys seem like they were specifically designed to test my convictions in that regard.
 
2013-12-17 07:06:34 AM  

Shadowknight: doglover: Shadowknight: for some reason adult males make up the entirety of your My Little Pony fan base.

Not the entirety. There's also adult females.

True enough I guess. Somehow m more acceptable than this Brony thing. I'm not normally one for gender roles dictating anything, but these guys seem like they were specifically designed to test my convictions in that regard.


Yeah, I can't imagine someone wanting to see this:
i25.photobucket.com
What freaks.
 
2013-12-17 07:22:37 AM  
The first part of this latest Fatman on Batman conversation with Dini has a huge chuck of Kev and Paul spitballing a new live action Batman series, centered around Bruce Wayne in prep school. It's a Smallville concept...you never see Bruce as Batman, but you get all these people from the mythos sprinkled in along the way. They get deep into it, and pretty much lay down the first season and a half of arc storylines. It's worth your time: you will get genuinely excited at some of the stuff they're coming up with. I lost it when Dini suggests that Ted Grant could be a coach at the prep school, and starts training Bruce to fight when Bruce discovers his history as a crime fighter.

Smith is all jazzed, he's convinced he can take this to DiDio and get this made, hooking guys like Morrison, Johns, etc to write episodes. It's probably a concept that has already been pitched a dozen times and will go nowhere, but still very interesting to listen to and think about.
 
2013-12-17 07:23:09 AM  

doglover: Shadowknight: doglover: Shadowknight: for some reason adult males make up the entirety of your My Little Pony fan base.

Not the entirety. There's also adult females.

True enough I guess. Somehow m more acceptable than this Brony thing. I'm not normally one for gender roles dictating anything, but these guys seem like they were specifically designed to test my convictions in that regard.

Yeah, I can't imagine someone wanting to see this:

What freaks.


It's not that they like it. I sit with my daughters and watch the Tinkerbell straight to DVD movies, and you know they aren't all THAT bad? They are actually fairly decent as those things go, and don't mind so much when the youngest wants to put one on

But I don't feel the need to lunge into every Internet conversation and trying to make memes that apply to every situation. It's the obsession and all encompassing, life altering status of it that bugs me.

But then, I reorganized my entire vacation plans to Germany around the release of The Avengers, so glass houses and all that.
 
2013-12-17 07:46:31 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Nice to have confirmation that stupidity at Warner Brothers Turner Broadcasting is just corporate culture.


FTFY

The article states that DC isn't the problem, it was the execs at Cartoon Network, owned by Turner.
 
2013-12-17 07:49:39 AM  
These shows are merely profit centers, this is really nothing new.
 
2013-12-17 07:52:30 AM  

eldritch2k4: FirstNationalBastard: Nice to have confirmation that stupidity at Warner Brothers Turner Broadcasting is just corporate culture.

FTFY

The article states that DC isn't the problem, it was the execs at Cartoon Network, owned by Turner.


Mmm-hmm.

And who owns and operates Turner Broadcasting?

Warner Brothers. Well, Time/Warner.

My point stands.
 
2013-12-17 08:19:08 AM  

eldritch2k4: FirstNationalBastard: Nice to have confirmation that stupidity at Warner Brothers Turner Broadcasting is just corporate culture.

FTFY

The article states that DC isn't the problem, it was the execs at Cartoon Network, owned by Turner.


If DC was in charge, they would be selling toy refrigerators just the right size for a girl to fit inside.
 
2013-12-17 08:29:17 AM  

Psylent1: eldritch2k4: FirstNationalBastard: Nice to have confirmation that stupidity at Warner Brothers Turner Broadcasting is just corporate culture.

FTFY

The article states that DC isn't the problem, it was the execs at Cartoon Network, owned by Turner.

If DC was in charge, they would be selling toy refrigerators just the right size for a girl to fit inside.


Ha!
 
2013-12-17 08:30:46 AM  

mhd: Lackofname: From other fans to the execs, no one seems to want female fans.

They're perfectly happy with female fans of "girly shows", it just seems that no one wants to have both male and female fans in the same franchise. That really gets the execs confused.

/One other difference seems that more boys stick with the toys long after they're not boys anymore. You won't find that many 30something women collecting "princess" paraphernalia. Unless you count shoes.


A strong marketing push could probably break that trend. There are plenty of girls who like to collect things, why not make it toys?
 
2013-12-17 08:46:38 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: eldritch2k4: FirstNationalBastard: Nice to have confirmation that stupidity at Warner Brothers Turner Broadcasting is just corporate culture.

FTFY

The article states that DC isn't the problem, it was the execs at Cartoon Network, owned by Turner.

Mmm-hmm.

And who owns and operates Turner Broadcasting?

Warner Brothers. Well, Time/Warner.

My point stands.


I stand corrected. I was under the impression that Turner was still owned by Ted. woops
 
2013-12-17 08:49:10 AM  

eldritch2k4: FirstNationalBastard: eldritch2k4: FirstNationalBastard: Nice to have confirmation that stupidity at Warner Brothers Turner Broadcasting is just corporate culture.

FTFY

The article states that DC isn't the problem, it was the execs at Cartoon Network, owned by Turner.

Mmm-hmm.

And who owns and operates Turner Broadcasting?

Warner Brothers. Well, Time/Warner.

My point stands.

I stand corrected. I was under the impression that Turner was still owned by Ted. woops


Nah, Ted sold everything to Time Warner back in the 90s. IIRC, he considers it one of the biggest mistakes he ever made.
 
2013-12-17 08:50:18 AM  
The issue is a little deeper than simply "boys buy more toys". Modern marketing philosophy is built around demographics- you select a demographic slice, and market to that slice.  How you market to that slice is mostly driven my cargo-cult and tradition. You market to young boys this way, you market to young girls this way, your sweet-spot age-wise is this range. You can't afford to be experimental- if the marketing wisdom says "you market this kind of product to this kind of demographic using these advertising methods", you do  that. A marketing campaign is expensive, and if you take a risk, like using a non-standard marketing method,  and it fails, this is your fault, and you're a horrible person who is probably going to get fired or worse. If you take the same risk, and succeed, you're not going to be hailed as a visionary- you're simply an outlier who got lucky that once.

This is the challenge to any sort of institutional change.
 
2013-12-17 10:09:53 AM  

johnnyboog: Young Justice was a great cartoon. The animation was top notch and the writing was superb.  I just don't think it ever found a strong enough fan base.


FirstNationalBastard: Nice to have confirmation that stupidity at Warner Brothers is just corporate culture.


Both of these.   I farking loved Young Justice.  Easily the best thing since JL/JLU.  There were some "problems" though (some spoilers contained therein):

#1: WB sux.  They don't recognize a good property when they see it.
#2: The show actually had fairly mature themes and they didn't know how to market it.  (I.E. "Roy"/Red Arrow having a illegitimate kid), see #1
#3: Changing the title to Young Justice: Invasion may have screwed up people that were casual followers.   I didn't realize they were one and the same until I dove into the series. (and got thoroughly hooked!)
#4: Too long between seasons

That being said, my  9 year old daughter (now 10) was thoroughly hooked.  So yeah, girls liked it.  So what?  Why should that even matter.  So what do they do?  They replace with the SHIATTY "Teen Titans".   WB seems bound and determined to screw up the one advantage they have always had over Marvel: Great animated series and movies. Eff em.
 
2013-12-17 11:00:11 AM  

RyansPrivates: johnnyboog: Young Justice was a great cartoon. The animation was top notch and the writing was superb.  I just don't think it ever found a strong enough fan base.

FirstNationalBastard: Nice to have confirmation that stupidity at Warner Brothers is just corporate culture.

Both of these.   I farking loved Young Justice.  Easily the best thing since JL/JLU.  There were some "problems" though (some spoilers contained therein):

#1: WB sux.  They don't recognize a good property when they see it.
#2: The show actually had fairly mature themes and they didn't know how to market it.  (I.E. "Roy"/Red Arrow having a illegitimate kid), see #1
#3: Changing the title to Young Justice: Invasion may have screwed up people that were casual followers.   I didn't realize they were one and the same until I dove into the series. (and got thoroughly hooked!)
#4: Too long between seasons

That being said, my  9 year old daughter (now 10) was thoroughly hooked.  So yeah, girls liked it.  So what?  Why should that even matter.  So what do they do?  They replace with the SHIATTY "Teen Titans".   WB seems bound and determined to screw up the one advantage they have always had over Marvel: Great animated series and movies. Eff em.


I personally like Teen Titans (both old and new versions).

Not to diminish Young Justice, but it was a tired formula for DC cartoons that they've been repeating ad nauseum since the Justice League. Nothing wrong with that, but after a dozen different variations on formula, at least the new Titans were something unique. I totally understand why the humor and art style wouldn't appeal to a lot of people, but I personally found it pretty funny and well-made.

/Raven playing with her pony toys was particularly amusing
//Robin's friends visiting the Bat Cave was also hilarious
 
2013-12-17 11:31:14 AM  
To this very day, every time I see the YJ episode with The Joker in it, it's always "Technicolor David Tennant" to me.

images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-12-17 11:33:46 AM  
The only people I know in my age range who watched that show with any regularity during its initial run were chicks. I'm talking the sort of nerdy chicks who would happily buy merch related to the show if it was even halfway tailored to 'em, and had the disposable income to do so. Kinda stupid of 'em to shiatcan the show because tweaking their tie-in products to these sort of gals was considered too hard.
 
2013-12-17 11:33:59 AM  

Strolpol: I personally like Teen Titans (both old and new versions).

Not to diminish Young Justice, but it was a tired formula for DC cartoons that they've been repeating ad nauseum since the Justice League. Nothing wrong with that, but after a dozen different variations on formula, at least the new Titans were something unique. I totally understand why the humor and art style wouldn't appeal to a lot of people, but I personally found it pretty funny and well-made.

/Raven playing with her pony toys was particularly amusing
//Robin's friends visiting the Bat Cave was also hilarious



(I appreciate the thoughtful response). 

I guess it skews too young, too much "bathroom humor" for me.  Part of it is that when Batman the Animated Series came out, I realized "hey, 'animated' doesn't mean just for kids" it was also about this time I discovered Anime, first "Bubblegum Crisis" then onto others.

 I know different people like different things, obviously.  As long as it is quality I am ok.  I just irks me when DC has had such great animated features and then slowly seems to be pissing it away.  In my heart, I am a DC guy, but more and more it seems that they can't get things quite right.  After reading TFA, and finding out Dini has been doing work for Marvel, I may have to re-evaluate their animated properties.  The last one I saw was "Planet Hulk".  It was good, but not as great as I had hoped from what others were saying (part of it goes back to my soft spot for DC).  The one animated Marvel property I really liked was the MTV "Spiderman" with Neil Patrick Harris.
 
2013-12-17 11:38:37 AM  

eldritch2k4: FirstNationalBastard: Nice to have confirmation that stupidity at Warner Brothers Turner Broadcasting is just corporate culture.

FTFY

The article states that DC isn't the problem, it was the execs at Cartoon Network, owned by Turner.


Ted Turner hasn't had anything to do with Cartoon Network, CNN, or any of his former properties in over a decade.
 
2013-12-17 11:53:28 AM  

Strolpol: RyansPrivates: johnnyboog: Young Justice was a great cartoon. The animation was top notch and the writing was superb.  I just don't think it ever found a strong enough fan base.

FirstNationalBastard: Nice to have confirmation that stupidity at Warner Brothers is just corporate culture.

Both of these.   I farking loved Young Justice.  Easily the best thing since JL/JLU.  There were some "problems" though (some spoilers contained therein):

#1: WB sux.  They don't recognize a good property when they see it.
#2: The show actually had fairly mature themes and they didn't know how to market it.  (I.E. "Roy"/Red Arrow having a illegitimate kid), see #1
#3: Changing the title to Young Justice: Invasion may have screwed up people that were casual followers.   I didn't realize they were one and the same until I dove into the series. (and got thoroughly hooked!)
#4: Too long between seasons

That being said, my  9 year old daughter (now 10) was thoroughly hooked.  So yeah, girls liked it.  So what?  Why should that even matter.  So what do they do?  They replace with the SHIATTY "Teen Titans".   WB seems bound and determined to screw up the one advantage they have always had over Marvel: Great animated series and movies. Eff em.

I personally like Teen Titans (both old and new versions).

Not to diminish Young Justice, but it was a tired formula for DC cartoons that they've been repeating ad nauseum since the Justice League. Nothing wrong with that, but after a dozen different variations on formula, at least the new Titans were something unique. I totally understand why the humor and art style wouldn't appeal to a lot of people, but I personally found it pretty funny and well-made.

/Raven playing with her pony toys was particularly amusing
//Robin's friends visiting the Bat Cave was also hilarious


I have been really surprised at how funny Teen Titans Go can be. It's not all ground breaking or anything, but there's tons of DCU references, and writing is pretty entertaining. It's right up there with the winding off a night of drinking at 2 in the morning before bed shows, along with Aqua Teen, Ren and Stimpy, and Sealab.
The batcave episode was a favorite, as well as the one when Cyborg and Beast Boy create/conjure giant hamburger and burrito monsters to fight Godzilla style and destroy half a city over which food is better. My gf who's never seen it and doesn't read cape and tights comics was laughing pretty hard at that one.
 
2013-12-17 12:20:44 PM  
I freaking LOVED Tower Prep, and this article angers me. It could have been a very successful show if only the network execs weren't such short-sighted idiots.

I anyone needs me I'll be in the Angry Dome.
 
2013-12-17 12:22:29 PM  
Hey, I'm a huge Dini fan...they guy's done some stellar work.

That said, I'd love to hear his take on why they took a show that was dumber than dirt (Teen Titans), and dumbed it down *further* to epic levels of idiocy (Teen Titans GO)...not that he had anything to do with it.  Or did he?

/too lazy to research it, besides if I'm wrong I'm sure a couple of folks will let me know
//in a nice, laid back, tactful manner
 
2013-12-17 12:23:25 PM  

mhd: You won't find that many 30something women collecting "princess" paraphernalia. Unless you count shoes.


Ha. are ya sure?
 
2013-12-17 12:34:37 PM  

TV's Vinnie: eldritch2k4: FirstNationalBastard: Nice to have confirmation that stupidity at Warner Brothers Turner Broadcasting is just corporate culture.

FTFY

The article states that DC isn't the problem, it was the execs at Cartoon Network, owned by Turner.

Ted Turner hasn't had anything to do with Cartoon Network, CNN, or any of his former properties in over a decade.


Read the thread before commenting. This was covered. I withdrew my statement.
 
2013-12-17 12:35:10 PM  

Shadowknight: But I don't feel the need to lunge into every Internet conversation and trying to make memes that apply to every situation. It's the obsession and all encompassing, life altering status of it that bugs me.


Just to point out. You MAY be overstating throwing a few memes around in fark threads as an "all encompassing life alternating status".

I watched one episode, and I admit I enjoyed myself.  Haven't watched another, as I honestly have far too many things to do like watch other shows and play video games.  But I never once found the memes annoying.  Half the reason they were as heavily used as they were was probably just to piss off what are evidently the most childish and thinskinned folk on the planet: MLP haters :)

I learned when I was about four that if my older brother was annoying me and I responded how he wanted, I was never going to be free of torment. How do people manage to be functioning adults without these skills?
 
2013-12-17 12:38:00 PM  

eldritch2k4: Read the thread before commenting. This was covered. I withdrew my statement.


Do your research before commenting. You posted false information.
 
2013-12-17 12:40:39 PM  

arsonik: Strolpol: RyansPrivates: johnnyboog: Young Justice was a great cartoon. The animation was top notch and the writing was superb.  I just don't think it ever found a strong enough fan base.

FirstNationalBastard: Nice to have confirmation that stupidity at Warner Brothers is just corporate culture.

Both of these.   I farking loved Young Justice.  Easily the best thing since JL/JLU.  There were some "problems" though (some spoilers contained therein):

#1: WB sux.  They don't recognize a good property when they see it.
#2: The show actually had fairly mature themes and they didn't know how to market it.  (I.E. "Roy"/Red Arrow having a illegitimate kid), see #1
#3: Changing the title to Young Justice: Invasion may have screwed up people that were casual followers.   I didn't realize they were one and the same until I dove into the series. (and got thoroughly hooked!)
#4: Too long between seasons

That being said, my  9 year old daughter (now 10) was thoroughly hooked.  So yeah, girls liked it.  So what?  Why should that even matter.  So what do they do?  They replace with the SHIATTY "Teen Titans".   WB seems bound and determined to screw up the one advantage they have always had over Marvel: Great animated series and movies. Eff em.

I personally like Teen Titans (both old and new versions).

Not to diminish Young Justice, but it was a tired formula for DC cartoons that they've been repeating ad nauseum since the Justice League. Nothing wrong with that, but after a dozen different variations on formula, at least the new Titans were something unique. I totally understand why the humor and art style wouldn't appeal to a lot of people, but I personally found it pretty funny and well-made.

/Raven playing with her pony toys was particularly amusing
//Robin's friends visiting the Bat Cave was also hilarious

I have been really surprised at how funny Teen Titans Go can be. It's not all ground breaking or anything, but there's tons of DCU references, and writing is pretty en ...


DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT THE TIDES!

Wife and I love that show.
 
2013-12-17 01:13:05 PM  
people who cancel great cartoons should be rotting in jail next to people who crash the economy.
 
2013-12-17 01:27:15 PM  

Madbassist1: eldritch2k4: Read the thread before commenting. This was covered. I withdrew my statement.

Do your research before commenting. You posted false information.


I posted incomplete information. I was corrected. I stood corrected. You were a douche. I was all, "Dude. Douche." Then? More douche.

Seriously. Awful lot'ta douche.
 
2013-12-17 01:47:49 PM  

johnnyboog: Young Justice was a great cartoon. The animation was top notch and the writing was superb.  I just don't think it ever found a strong enough fan base.


This; I'm actually shocked that fans of JL/JL:U did not gravitate to YJ.  It was better than I expected.  Also: Zatanna was farking awesome.
 
2013-12-17 01:48:34 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Nice to have confirmation that stupidity at Warner Brothers is just corporate culture.


It explains DC for the last 10 years doesn't it?
 
2013-12-17 01:51:10 PM  

johnnyboog: Young Justice was a great cartoon. The animation was top notch and the writing was superb.  I just don't think it ever found a strong enough fan base.


The problem was that it DID find a strong fan base. The problem was the fan base were a demographic that wouldn't buy any merchandise.
 
2013-12-17 01:53:45 PM  

ThatDarkFellow: johnnyboog: Young Justice was a great cartoon. The animation was top notch and the writing was superb.  I just don't think it ever found a strong enough fan base.

The problem was that it DID find a strong fan base. The problem was the fan base were a demographic that wouldn't buy any merchandise.


Which is a completely dumbass reason to cancel any show.  Then again, the asshole network execs do terminate shows that had a niche but not the niche they want; so it's not surprising.
 
2013-12-17 01:59:55 PM  

ThatDarkFellow: johnnyboog: Young Justice was a great cartoon. The animation was top notch and the writing was superb.  I just don't think it ever found a strong enough fan base.

The problem was that it DID find a strong fan base. The problem was the fan base were a demographic that wouldn't buy any merchandise.


I swear to god I cannot think straight, concentrate, read, or spell anymore. This statement was such a jumbled mess I'm going to fix it just to make myself feel better.

The problem was that it DID find a strong fan base. The issue with this was that the fan base was comprised of a demographic that wouldn't buy any merchandise.

/i'm losing my mind
 
2013-12-17 02:49:13 PM  
Back in the 80s, DC introduced Amethyst as a way to attract female readers.  And attract female readers they did *raises hand*.  Then they gave the female readers exactly 0 to read, unless we wanted Wonder Woman or a team book like Legionnaires.  Name a strong leading female DC character from the 80s - I dare you.

Flash forward 30 years.  DC hasn't learned its lesson yet & never will.  They have pretty much 0 idea as to what fan base they are chasing with whatever medium they are playing with at the time.
 
2013-12-17 02:54:07 PM  

mhd: You won't find that many 30something women collecting "princess" paraphernalia. Unless you count shoes.


*glances over at wall of statues & her books of original comic art including The Walking Dead, glances back at you*

My collection of graphic novels, comics, art books, original comic art, t-shirts, collectibles, ornaments & my own drawing ability learned by reading comics, disagrees.

/35 with a vagina
 
2013-12-17 02:55:06 PM  
Forgot to mention:

Princesses rule.
 
2013-12-17 02:59:17 PM  
LisaNeedsBraces: Back in the 80s, DC introduced Amethyst as a way to attract female readers.  And attract female readers they did *raises hand*.  Then they gave the female readers exactly 0 to read, unless we wanted Wonder Woman or a team book like Legionnaires.  Name a strong leading female DC character from the 80s - I dare you.

Possibly Supergirl...then again she was killed off in COIE.

Flash forward 30 years.  DC hasn't learned its lesson yet & never will.  They have pretty much 0 idea as to what fan base they are chasing with whatever medium they are playing with at the time.

Well there is Birds of Prey...but only if Simone writes it.

As opposed to Marvel who are at least trying with a new Captain Marvel series, a Ms. Marvel series, and the all-female X-Men and JiM with Sif as the lead character (or did they cancel that as well?)
 
2013-12-17 03:34:08 PM  

Rwa2play: Well there is Birds of Prey


That's a pretty good guess but that's a team book, which furthers my point.
I left Marvel behind in the 90s when I got fed up with their continual crossovers & foil cover pricing that could have been mortgage payments...and am now finding myself drifting back there due to their shows & movies.
 
2013-12-17 03:37:30 PM  
All because the current ideology is to divide the consumer base into so many micro-pigeonholes, that the money made by adhereing to the subdivisions blinds the suits to the old thinking of the base as a whole.  I feel a rant about how the 70s was the last great era to be a kid coming on, so I'll just retreat until the crotchety-ness passes.
 
2013-12-17 03:45:15 PM  
I saw Paul Dini give a talk at the Detroit Institute of Arts last month and he mentioned this.  He also said that girls buying toys can also hurt a show's merchandise (which is how they make a lot of their money).  If a boys see girls with toys from a show this will frequently keep the boys away from the show.  He said this was one of the reasons why "Avatar:  The Last Airbender" wasn't as profitable as it's popularity would suggest, the number of girls who liked the show hurt their merchandise sales.
 
2013-12-17 04:00:53 PM  

LisaNeedsBraces: Rwa2play: Well there is Birds of Prey

That's a pretty good guess but that's a team book, which furthers my point.
I left Marvel behind in the 90s when I got fed up with their continual crossovers & foil cover pricing that could have been mortgage payments...and am now finding myself drifting back there due to their shows & movies.


Well, every once in a while they go into stupid mode (see Civil War, for which I didn't buy not one Marvel book for until it was over).
 
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