If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Opposing Views)   Woman gets jailed for a month over a.) cocaine, b.) heroin or c.) soap?   (opposingviews.com) divider line 47
    More: Asinine  
•       •       •

7202 clicks; posted to Main » on 16 Dec 2013 at 3:00 PM (49 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



47 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest
 
2013-12-16 03:04:04 PM  
Only going 5mph and "hugging the line" (which I've been known to do on occasion)? Yea, I'll agree with racial profiling traffic stop.

/hope she sues for false imprisonment
 
2013-12-16 03:04:05 PM  
I hear female fight clubs are kinda hot...
 
2013-12-16 03:04:27 PM  
 
2013-12-16 03:05:00 PM  
As I'm sure all the Fark Internet Lawyer Brigade will say:  NEVER consent to a search.
 
2013-12-16 03:06:54 PM  
store.infinitecoolness.com
 
2013-12-16 03:07:37 PM  
The officer found "more than 4 pounds of a white powdery substance wrapped in tape in a factory compartment on a side wall of the car,"

Sorry... Anyways, why was the soap apparently packaged and hidden in a manner consistent with drugs? Should the cops assume that anything that looks like drugs and is hidden like drugs actually soap? Still, the one month delay is a big problem here. Shouldn't have taken that long.
 
2013-12-16 03:09:08 PM  

Jument: The officer found "more than 4 pounds of a white powdery substance wrapped in tape in a factory compartment on a side wall of the car,"

Sorry... Anyways, why was the soap apparently packaged and hidden in a manner consistent with drugs? Should the cops assume that anything that looks like drugs and is hidden like drugs actually soap? Still, the one month delay is a big problem here. Shouldn't have taken that long.


"Factory compartment on a side wall of the car" is the factory door pocket, if I'm not mistaken. It sure sounds like it is. Hardly a concealed location for narco trafficking.
 
2013-12-16 03:12:46 PM  

new_york_monty: Jument: The officer found "more than 4 pounds of a white powdery substance wrapped in tape in a factory compartment on a side wall of the car,"

Sorry... Anyways, why was the soap apparently packaged and hidden in a manner consistent with drugs? Should the cops assume that anything that looks like drugs and is hidden like drugs actually soap? Still, the one month delay is a big problem here. Shouldn't have taken that long.

"Factory compartment on a side wall of the car" is the factory door pocket, if I'm not mistaken. It sure sounds like it is. Hardly a concealed location for narco trafficking.


Ah, fair enough. Still a four pound taped-up bag of white powder is somewhat suspicious. That warrants further investigation in this scenario (but not a month's imprisonment).
 
2013-12-16 03:12:56 PM  
At least she'll have a clean record, now that the truth has come out in the wash. She should wash her hands of this and move on.
 
2013-12-16 03:13:02 PM  

YixilTesiphon: Non-OV link


Thanks for that.
 
2013-12-16 03:14:00 PM  

Jument: new_york_monty: Jument: The officer found "more than 4 pounds of a white powdery substance wrapped in tape in a factory compartment on a side wall of the car,"

Sorry... Anyways, why was the soap apparently packaged and hidden in a manner consistent with drugs? Should the cops assume that anything that looks like drugs and is hidden like drugs actually soap? Still, the one month delay is a big problem here. Shouldn't have taken that long.

"Factory compartment on a side wall of the car" is the factory door pocket, if I'm not mistaken. It sure sounds like it is. Hardly a concealed location for narco trafficking.

Ah, fair enough. Still a four pound taped-up bag of white powder is somewhat suspicious. That warrants further investigation in this scenario (but not a month's imprisonment).


Well, aside from the War on Drugs being stupid, pointless, and evil, yes, it warrants further investigation.
 
2013-12-16 03:15:36 PM  
And she also had pot on her. She's lucky if they aren't charging her with that.
 
2013-12-16 03:16:07 PM  

Jument: new_york_monty: Jument: The officer found "more than 4 pounds of a white powdery substance wrapped in tape in a factory compartment on a side wall of the car,"

Sorry... Anyways, why was the soap apparently packaged and hidden in a manner consistent with drugs? Should the cops assume that anything that looks like drugs and is hidden like drugs actually soap? Still, the one month delay is a big problem here. Shouldn't have taken that long.

"Factory compartment on a side wall of the car" is the factory door pocket, if I'm not mistaken. It sure sounds like it is. Hardly a concealed location for narco trafficking.

Ah, fair enough. Still a four pound taped-up bag of white powder is somewhat suspicious. That warrants further investigation in this scenario (but not a month's imprisonment).


Honestly, sounds like the driver needs to bone up on her 4A and 5A rights. She should never have mentioned using marijuana at any point, nor should she have consented to the search. But yeah, I'd agree, if the cop saw the package in plain sight, that does seem like cause for further investigation.

At least she didn't let on about Project Mayhem. Tyler never would have forgiven her.
 
2013-12-16 03:18:29 PM  

Dirtybird971: And she also had pot on her. She's lucky if they aren't charging her with that.


That's like charging someone for possessing cocaine because there's trace amounts on every $100 bill in existence.
 
2013-12-16 03:21:34 PM  
Eh, it's used as a cutting agent.  Hidden in a door panel.  Screw her.
 
2013-12-16 03:27:09 PM  
I'd say she and her friend are set up for a pretty nifty retirement package.
 
2013-12-16 03:27:37 PM  

Ker_Thwap: Eh, it's used as a cutting agent.  Hidden in a door panel.  Screw her.


Man, I hope nobody ever puts groceries containing baking soda in a trunk.
 
2013-12-16 03:27:48 PM  
I know it's cool to hate cops and all but....come'on.

The lady was speeding.   She got pulled over.
The cop claims it smelled like weed.  And it wasn't just one of those 'b.s.' fake probable cause things; it smelled like weed because SHE JUST SMOKED SOME.

She admits to smoking the weed.
And she's driving right after.

'Gee officer, I smell like alcohol and was driving in such a way that got me pulled over....but it's okay....I drank BEFORE I got in the car.'  If this was a dude that had a beer, you'd all be glad he spent a month in jail.

Okay, not only was she smoking weed, immediately driving afterwards; she also had weed on her.

'Oh no!  She was incarcerated with people who COMMIT CRIMES...well, good.  Cause she did.'

Apparently, from the testimony of the lawyer, minorities are allowed to drive in excess of the speed-limit, and it's not a crime?  Cool.  And smoking weed before driving?  Not a crime either?

Everything the cops did was reasonable and appropriate.

Speeding?  Pull over car.
Smell weed?  Ask about weed.
Given permission to search car?  Search car.
Finds weed, finds mysterious blocks of homemade white stuff, wrapped in plastic and taped up?  Perform field test.

Test positive?  Arrest suspects.

I can't imagine how else it *should* have gone?  If someone claims their bricks of cocaine aren't bricks of cocaine....we just let them go?  If someone is speeding, we just let them?  Assuming they were treated appropriately while presumed innocent (IE - not beaten, starved or abused), this is pretty much how our legal system works.

Better test came back negative.  So they let them go.

I'm pro-drugs and all, but most people aren't.  So long as bricks of heroin and the likes are illegal....how else should we handle it?  Do you really expect every traffic cop to also be a PhD in chemistry?  Tell cops to just blindly taste/sniff/lick mysterious substances held by people they pull over?
 
2013-12-16 03:28:52 PM  

Ker_Thwap: Eh, it's used as a cutting agent.  Hidden in a door panel.  Screw her.


It wasn't hidden in a door panel.   My vehicle has a good 11 or so built in compartments.  I commonly use them for shiat I don't want to roll/move around, does that mean I'm concealing things?
 
2013-12-16 03:29:31 PM  

Jument: new_york_monty: Jument: The officer found "more than 4 pounds of a white powdery substance wrapped in tape in a factory compartment on a side wall of the car,"

Sorry... Anyways, why was the soap apparently packaged and hidden in a manner consistent with drugs? Should the cops assume that anything that looks like drugs and is hidden like drugs actually soap? Still, the one month delay is a big problem here. Shouldn't have taken that long.

"Factory compartment on a side wall of the car" is the factory door pocket, if I'm not mistaken. It sure sounds like it is. Hardly a concealed location for narco trafficking.

Ah, fair enough. Still a four pound taped-up bag of white powder is somewhat suspicious. That warrants further investigation in this scenario (but not a month's imprisonment).


It was home made soap.  How else was she supposed to wrap it?
 
2013-12-16 03:30:28 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Dirtybird971: And she also had pot on her. She's lucky if they aren't charging her with that.

That's like charging someone for possessing cocaine because there's trace amounts on every $100 bill in existence.


No - that's like charging someone for possessing cocaine because they just did some cocaine, are driving, and have some more cocaine in their pocket.  Trace amounts on a bill != a stash of some drug in a chick's bra.
 
2013-12-16 03:32:57 PM  

Dr Dreidel

Dirtybird971: And she also had pot on her. She's lucky if they aren't charging her with that.

That's like charging someone for possessing cocaine because there's trace amounts on every $100 bill in existence.


no. It's not. For that to be true EVERY bra would have to come with a "small amount of marijuana". In case you didn't know the laws are "up to one ounce" and that includes .5 grams. Did you read the article?

Don't get me wrong, I don't want her charged.
 
2013-12-16 03:32:58 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Dirtybird971: And she also had pot on her. She's lucky if they aren't charging her with that.

That's like charging someone for possessing cocaine because there's trace amounts on every $100 bill in existence.


FTFA: "Police also found a small amount of marijuana in Cruz's bra."
 
2013-12-16 03:39:21 PM  
Her name was Robert Paulson.
 
Ant
2013-12-16 03:39:29 PM  

Jument: Sorry... Anyways, why was the soap apparently packaged and hidden in a manner consistent with drugs? Should the cops assume that anything that looks like drugs and is hidden like drugs actually soap?


WTF do they mean by hidden? If I put something in the compartment under the floor of my wagon, is that hidden?
 
Ant
2013-12-16 03:44:31 PM  

Ker_Thwap: Eh, it's used as a cutting agent.  Hidden in a door panel.  Screw her.


It was in a cubby hole in the trunk. Who gives a shiat if it can be used for a cutting agent?
 
2013-12-16 03:52:39 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Finds weed, finds mysterious blocks of homemade white stuff, wrapped in plastic and taped up? Perform field test.

Test positive? Arrest suspects.


Here's the thing; the field tests are crap.  This is a very well known issue.  The field tests, from an effectiveness standpoint, are worth about as much as having the officer flip a coin.
 
2013-12-16 03:53:13 PM  

mdeesnuts: YixilTesiphon: Non-OV link

Thanks for that.


Seconded. I don't click on OV at all any more.
 
2013-12-16 03:57:21 PM  

puckrock2000: Dr Dreidel: Dirtybird971: And she also had pot on her. She's lucky if they aren't charging her with that.

That's like charging someone for possessing cocaine because there's trace amounts on every $100 bill in existence.

FTFA: "Police also found a small amount of marijuana in Cruz's bra."


Is that half a gram in a baggie, or some crumbs on the fabric? They're cops in a drug bust (no pun intended), I don't immediately assume they've been 100% accurate.

My initial read was the latter; there is certainly definitional room for the former.
 
2013-12-16 03:58:39 PM  
Satanic_Hamster

Fark_Guy_Rob: Finds weed, finds mysterious blocks of homemade white stuff, wrapped in plastic and taped up? Perform field test.

Test positive? Arrest suspects.

Here's the thing; the field tests are crap. This is a very well known issue. The field tests, from an effectiveness standpoint, are worth about as much as having the officer flip a coin.


IDK, when I was doing heroin the tests always seemed to be correct. And a quick GIS shows not a thing
 
2013-12-16 04:28:07 PM  
The Huffington Post posted a story from its affiliated Dumb as a Blog site poking fun at Cruz's claim in November.

Nice to see liberals supporting Liberty, and that whole Innocent till proven guilty thing, and that pesky bill of rights thing that mentions Bail.
 
2013-12-16 04:40:46 PM  
HER NAME WAS ROBERT PAULSON!
 
2013-12-16 05:02:17 PM  

YixilTesiphon: Well, aside from the War on Drugs being stupid, pointless, and evil, yes, it warrants further investigation.


The War on Civil Liberties is stupid and evil, but it is far from pointless.
 
2013-12-16 05:21:42 PM  

skantea: Jument: new_york_monty: Jument: The officer found "more than 4 pounds of a white powdery substance wrapped in tape in a factory compartment on a side wall of the car,"

Sorry... Anyways, why was the soap apparently packaged and hidden in a manner consistent with drugs? Should the cops assume that anything that looks like drugs and is hidden like drugs actually soap? Still, the one month delay is a big problem here. Shouldn't have taken that long.

"Factory compartment on a side wall of the car" is the factory door pocket, if I'm not mistaken. It sure sounds like it is. Hardly a concealed location for narco trafficking.

Ah, fair enough. Still a four pound taped-up bag of white powder is somewhat suspicious. That warrants further investigation in this scenario (but not a month's imprisonment).

It was home made soap.  How else was she supposed to wrap it?


In a bag labelled "soap"? ;) Seriously though, she smelt of pot and admitted to smoking pot. Upon finding a large bag of white powder, I think it's ok for the cop to assume that it's drugs until proven otherwise (which as I noted should take a lot less than a month).
 
2013-12-16 05:28:19 PM  

YixilTesiphon: Non-OV link


You are doing god's/Thor's/FSM's work.
 
2013-12-16 06:01:11 PM  
media.lolwall.co
 
2013-12-16 06:13:00 PM  

Vector R: Only going 5mph and "hugging the line" (which I've been known to do on occasion)? Yea, I'll agree with racial profiling traffic stop.

/hope she sues for false imprisonment


I've been pulled over and had my license and insurance checked out, then given a written warning for similar things, and I'm white.  Of course, I don't smell like pot, so they never seem interested in searching my vehicle.
 
2013-12-16 06:45:45 PM  

Jument: new_york_monty: Jument: The officer found "more than 4 pounds of a white powdery substance wrapped in tape in a factory compartment on a side wall of the car,"

Sorry... Anyways, why was the soap apparently packaged and hidden in a manner consistent with drugs? Should the cops assume that anything that looks like drugs and is hidden like drugs actually soap? Still, the one month delay is a big problem here. Shouldn't have taken that long.

"Factory compartment on a side wall of the car" is the factory door pocket, if I'm not mistaken. It sure sounds like it is. Hardly a concealed location for narco trafficking.

Ah, fair enough. Still a four pound taped-up bag of white powder is somewhat suspicious. That warrants further investigation in this scenario (but not a month's imprisonment).


What's suspicious is the stop in the first place for complete BS and then further asking for a search and then even further the roadside test flagging a positive when it wasn't.
 
2013-12-16 07:10:35 PM  
For swifter justice, always top off your powdered laundry soap with a couple inches of real cocaine. That way, you will be processed more quickly instead of being held longer while the arresting officers attempt to construct assault charges against you, for burning their noses with soap (during substance "testing").

/if they could sue you for ruining their departmental party, they would.
 
2013-12-16 07:56:51 PM  

Ant: Jument: Sorry... Anyways, why was the soap apparently packaged and hidden in a manner consistent with drugs? Should the cops assume that anything that looks like drugs and is hidden like drugs actually soap?

WTF do they mean by hidden? If I put something in the compartment under the floor of my wagon, is that hidden?


Well in my case the cops claimed what they found in the factory compartment was in plain sight enough to warrant the traffic stop.
 
2013-12-16 09:40:25 PM  
I gotta wonder if she made one of those soap shivs in jail.
 
2013-12-16 10:24:59 PM  

Restil: Vector R: Only going 5mph and "hugging the line" (which I've been known to do on occasion)? Yea, I'll agree with racial profiling traffic stop.

/hope she sues for false imprisonment

I've been pulled over and had my license and insurance checked out, then given a written warning for similar things, and I'm white.  Of course, I don't smell like pot, so they never seem interested in searching my vehicle.


The stop in the first place is what really makes me suspicious, in both her case and yours. In my experience, cops only pull you over for doing 10+ the limit, unless they're real pigs out for money (see bumfark towns). I also don't think I've ever heard of anyone being pulled over for "hugging the line" - crossing over, sure, but driving too close to the shoulder? They were looking for an excuse.
 
2013-12-16 10:27:10 PM  

images.dailytech.com


No Soap For You!

 
2013-12-16 10:57:14 PM  
I can't wait for the follow-up story where the jail sends her a bill for a month's worth of meals...
 
2013-12-17 12:12:51 AM  
Soap?
img.fark.net
 
2013-12-17 12:55:57 AM  
And today's lesson is: Never consent to searches.
 
2013-12-17 09:02:53 AM  
Well he *IS* a internationaly wanted fugative

static2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
Displayed 47 of 47 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report