the opposite of charity is justice: I stood up and walked out of Unexpected Journey over the bloated dishware scene. And that was my own living room watching a pirated copy.
DamnYankees: Lando Lincoln: And then use that time to tell more of the actual story, instead of wasting it on stupid action scenes that are action scenes just to be action scenes and farking love interests that have no goddamn place in the story.Oh no! Not action scenes!
doczoidberg: Yeah, I realized as I was watching it that it was totally impossible that something like that could happen, but then I switched into Kids Movie Mode, and simply accepted it. See, that's the point where all reason backs off, and suspension of disbelieve reigns supreme for enjoyment's sake.The scene was well shot, as you could at least tell what was happening. Many action film directors these days could learn a thing or two from Peter Jackson. At least he doesn't shake the friggin camera all over the place (too much).
mongbiohazard: Generally though I liked it. Smaug was great, the spiders great, and the visual art on display is as fantastic as always. The first thing I thought when I saw the massive mountain of treasure that Smaug was sleeping in was - "When they kill that dragon that huge treasure pile is going to completely kick the bottom out of the treasure market. There is so much gold and jewels in there that everyone in Middle Earth are going to be using gold to make their forks and spoons from then on, and jewels will be used as paperweights."
The_Gallant_Gallstone: In Jackson's case, I suspect that (given the success of the Lord of the Rings movie) he began to see himself as Tolkien's collaborator across the generations, with his revisions constituting a "modernization" like you see in those inferior "contemporary" Bibles.
RyansPrivates: I have one question out for those of you that are very familiar with the various source material available:Where is exactly to the "non"-Hobbit parts of the movie come from? I have read the Hobbit a few times, but not several. I don't recall much of the material surrounding Sauron / Necromancer being present, nor much of the development of the Goblins/Orcs as any sort of expansive characters with different personalities.
OSULugan: "We can probably stretch this into 3 movies if we add a bunch of this stuff not from the book. But, do you honestly think the fans will care?"
Shrugging Atlas: While Desolation wasn't bad, you could have split half of it between the other two films, and then included the remaining half in the inevitable blu-ray director cut versions.
Girion47: The barrel sequence was farking stupid and I question the intelligence of anyone that thinks differently. When the red bearded dwarf's barrel bounces out of the water and then takes out 10 orcs in a row before he sticks his arms out the side and becomes a whirling death machine AND then jumps in an unoccupied barrel(where did the extra come from) is probably the most idiotic thing since the 3rd Matrix
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