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(Politico)   GOP voters are reacting well to candidates who make the case that Obamacare, while flawed, does address a real problem in the US and should therefore be reformed not scrapped. Just kidding, they are demanding the heretics be purged with FIRE   (politico.com) divider line 86
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2013-12-16 01:53:34 PM
Wait - the party that demanded "purity oaths" and combined religion with politics is now surprised to find fanatics within the party, fanatics willing to destroy the party to preserve its ideological purity? This is my shocked face.
 
2013-12-16 01:54:57 PM
Not only that - they can't propose any alternatives if they do nix it.
 
2013-12-16 01:56:38 PM
Burn the heretic. Kill the RINO. Purge the unclean.

-Rand Paul
 
2013-12-16 01:57:03 PM

Diogenes: Not only that - they can't propose any alternatives if they do nix it.


The GOP does not believe this country needs health care reform. Nor do they believe in unemployment or that women should be permitted to make decisions for themselves.
 
2013-12-16 01:58:02 PM

Weaver95: Diogenes: Not only that - they can't propose any alternatives if they do nix it.

The GOP does not believe this country needs health care reform. Nor do they believe in unemployment or that women should be permitted to make decisions for themselves.


The only problem they perceive is that the rich just aren't rich enough.
 
2013-12-16 01:58:12 PM

somedude210: Burn the heretic. Kill the RINO. Purge the unclean.

-Rand Paul


Blood for the blood god!
 
2013-12-16 02:00:39 PM

Diogenes: Not only that - they can't propose any alternatives if they do nix it.


Oh, but you see, they do have a solution. A simple, elegant solution that will work if only the stupid libs would listen. Cut taxes.
 
2013-12-16 02:01:17 PM
Here's the problem for the GOP.. well over 60% of the GOP, indeed over 70%, want Obamacare improved. Their VOTERS, the ones who ALWAYS vote and are the loudest... want it scrapped. The rest of the GOP that may support a more moderate stance don't reliably vote at all; if they even bother to vote period. Guess who the GOP will listen to?
 
2013-12-16 02:02:15 PM
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines."
 
2013-12-16 02:04:08 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines."


-Rand Paul
 
2013-12-16 02:04:50 PM
Do these nihilistic retards actually go around with picket signs that read "I WANT TO DIE IN PAIN!", "COLON CANCER? YES, PLEASE!", and "PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS IS GOD'S WILL"?
 
2013-12-16 02:06:15 PM

make me some tea: Cut taxes.


You know, as much as we mock them and make fun of them, I imagine there is at least some situations where a tax cut would be a sensible solution. That said, I don't think I've ever heard one from Republicans in the last 40 years, so who knows. Like dinosaurs and Jesus, it's something we believe to be true but we can'f find any evidence that they existed for sure.
 
2013-12-16 02:06:55 PM

Diogenes: Not only that - they can't propose any alternatives if they do nix it.


This isn't true. They have proposed at least one alternative as a real honest-to-God bill and sent it to various committees in the House. That said, they have not held even a single subcommittee hearing on this proposed alternative yet, nor do they appear to have plans to hold one in the future. The alternative they've proposed also sucks giant monkey balls and would cost the country more than ObamaCare does while protecting those with pre-existing conditions less.
 
2013-12-16 02:07:03 PM

TV's Vinnie: Do these nihilistic retards actually go around with picket signs that read "I WANT TO DIE IN PAIN!", "COLON CANCER? YES, PLEASE!", and "PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS IS GOD'S WILL"?


I think they change the spelling a bit but...yeah, pretty much. Most GOP types see dying in horrific pain and with no money as some sort of honorable death. They also hate/fear medical cannabis too don't forget, and they think pain management is for wimps. The GOP rank and file are kind of a weird bunch of folks.
 
2013-12-16 02:07:14 PM

TV's Vinnie: Do these nihilistic retards actually go around with picket signs that read "I WANT TO DIE IN PAIN!", "COLON CANCER? YES, PLEASE!", and "PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS IS GOD'S WILL"?


you just gave me a great idea to sabotage anti-obamacare rallies....

anyone wanna join me?

^_^
 
2013-12-16 02:12:38 PM

make me some tea: Diogenes: Not only that - they can't propose any alternatives if they do nix it.

Oh, but you see, they do have a solution. A simple, elegant solution that will work if only the stupid libs would listen. Cut taxes for the richest 1%...raise them on everyone else....even their voter base (who will continue to vote for them because librulz)"


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2013-12-16 02:13:08 PM
www.ft86club.com
 
2013-12-16 02:13:47 PM
The GOP is placing themselves firmly in the position that health care was fine and dandy before any attempts at reform and we should go back to those days.  Hell, Fox is even putting on 'expert doctors' on their programs claiming there is too much health insurance in the country.  In order to score political points they'll go to any inane extreme.
 
2013-12-16 02:15:17 PM
I think it has finally gotten to the point where the sane Republicans realize that no matter what, the Tea Party will try to oust them in the primaries.  Why bother giving these assholes what they want now, when they know that come election time, they are going to oppose them?
 
2013-12-16 02:15:44 PM

Weaver95: . Most GOP types see dying in horrific pain and with no money as some sort of honorable death


As long as it's someone else doing the dying.  Preferably Democrat voters.  "My taxes didn't go up to pay for them to die, right?  Good riddance then."
 
2013-12-16 02:18:12 PM

Weaver95: they think pain management is for wimps.


And somehow, good ol' Rush - munching down on the Oxy like they were chicklets - got a pass on this one.

/translation:  only applies to the idiot libs
 
2013-12-16 02:18:12 PM

TV's Vinnie: Do these nihilistic retards actually go around with picket signs that read "I WANT TO DIE IN PAIN!", "COLON CANCER? YES, PLEASE!", and "PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS IS GOD'S WILL"?


well, they do go around with signs saying "KEEP YOUR GOVERNMENT OUT OF MY MEDICARE," so, yes, they're that farking stupid.
 
2013-12-16 02:19:41 PM

somedude210: TV's Vinnie: Do these nihilistic retards actually go around with picket signs that read "I WANT TO DIE IN PAIN!", "COLON CANCER? YES, PLEASE!", and "PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS IS GOD'S WILL"?

you just gave me a great idea to sabotage anti-obamacare rallies....

anyone wanna join me?

^_^

 INSURANCE DEFIES THE WILL OF GOD


If you want to go clearly mocking/sarcasm...

GIVE ME CANCER OR GIVE ME DEATH!
MEDICAL CARE IS FOR THE WEAK
 
2013-12-16 02:20:18 PM
I agree.

Repeal and Replace.

With Universal Public Healthcare.
 
2013-12-16 02:22:29 PM

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: GIVE ME CANCER OR GIVE ME DEATH!
MEDICAL CARE IS FOR THE WEAK


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

you're evil and I like you
 
2013-12-16 02:22:49 PM

GoodyearPimp: Weaver95: . Most GOP types see dying in horrific pain and with no money as some sort of honorable death

As long as it's someone else doing the dying.  Preferably Democrat voters.  "My taxes didn't go up to pay for them to die, right?  Good riddance then."


The GOP rank and file have this very odd delusion that somehow they're exempt from reality. They seem to believe that because they are good people that nothing bad can happen to them. Then when something bad does happen to befall them, they blame everyone else for their troubles and demand that the world stop until they get back on track.
 
2013-12-16 02:24:39 PM
So not only does it begin to address the gross inequality of the healthcare system, it gives republicans a snipe hunt to keep them busy while their party collapses around them.

i.telegraph.co.uk
 
2013-12-16 02:25:33 PM

stevenboof: I think it has finally gotten to the point where the sane Republicans realize that no matter what, the Tea Party will try to oust them in the primaries.  Why bother giving these assholes what they want now, when they know that come election time, they are going to oppose them?


This is where you see an empire, or large, powerful organization, begin to atomize into granular parts.  Without coherent marching orders, individual politicians are out for themselves, seeking to retain fiefdom power (over their districts, or whatever) as long as they can.  This is what they used to do, but while able to groom themselves for higher ideals (however nasty), swimming in tide with the rest.

It's extremely hard to stop this process, and the GOP as we've known it is likely no more.  The Tea Party is just going to kill it -- but we'll all be hurt, in the process.
 
2013-12-16 02:26:03 PM

CokeBear: I agree.

Repeal and Replace.

With Universal Public Healthcare.


Most sense ever made in Politics tab
 
2013-12-16 02:27:00 PM
0care has already entered the death spiral.

2014 will be a bloodbath.

you heard it here first.

I have spoken.
 
2013-12-16 02:27:58 PM

HotWingConspiracy: So not only does it begin to address the gross inequality of the healthcare system, it gives republicans a snipe hunt to keep them busy while their party collapses around them.


That'll happen to your big tent when you around inside it knocking down the perfectly functional poles for not being rigid enough...

/ giggity
 
2013-12-16 02:32:39 PM
We should repeal Obamacare and replace it with a national plan based off the Republican's Romneycare and the Heritage Foundation's Individual Mandate idea.

/Oh wait...
 
2013-12-16 02:32:55 PM

colon_pow: 0care has already entered the death spiral.

2014 Primaries will be a bloodbath.

you heard it here first.

I have spoken.


FTFY
 
2013-12-16 02:38:03 PM

Weaver95: somedude210: Burn the heretic. Kill the RINO. Purge the unclean.

-Rand Paul

Blood for the blood god!


That's the opposite side.  Chaos marines aren't that big on purity.  At all.  Even Khorne.
 
2013-12-16 02:39:10 PM

ShawnDoc: We should repeal Obamacare and replace it with a national plan based off the Republican's Romneycare and the Heritage Foundation's Individual Mandate idea.

/Oh wait...


Oh, it's worse than that. They have been pimping for more cost sharing and smaller networks as effective cost control methods for at least a decade. They can't support those anymore because Americans are apparently outraged about only finding plans with tons of cost sharing and tiny networks on the exchanges.
 
2013-12-16 02:40:24 PM
The 41 Days of Repealing Obamacare:

On the first day of Repealing Obamacare, John Boehner gave to me:

1) Tax Cuts for the Rich
2) Two Houses Divided
3) Three percent screwed by their insurer
4) Four Heritage Foundation Meetings
5) FIVE.... GOLD STANDARDS for RON PAUL
6) Six Shady Lobbyists
7) Seven SEC Buyoffs
8) Eight Goehmerts Farting
9) Nine Justices Judging
10) Ten Teatard Rallies
11) Eleven 404 Screenshots
12) Twelve Debt Ceiling Debates
13) Thirteen hour filibuster
14) Fourteen Calls for Impeachment
15) Fifteen Blue Dogs Waffling
16) Sixteen Lies from FoxNews
17) Seventeen Magazine in Paul Ryan's Toilet
18) Eighteen Holes with HMO CEOs
19) Nineteen Hijackers Exploited
20) Twenty Tim Pawlenty Postcards from Nowhere
21) Twenty-one Gun Salute for Reagan
22) Twenty-two Calibur Solutions
23) Twenty-three, crappy movie by Carrey
24) Twenty-four Harry Reid vertrebrae missing
25) Twenty-five percent of unmarried women voted for Cucinelli
26) Twenty-six coverage under your parents' plan
27) Twenty-seven Ted Cruz's a-pooping
28) Twenty-eight GOP governors refusing Medicare expansion
29) Twenty-nine percent of GOP think Obama's a Muslim
30) Thirty days until next budget crisis
31) Thirty-one million the GOP doesn't want covered
32) Thirty-two comparisons to Hitler
33) Thirty-three Rand Paul plagiarisms
34) Thirty-four Maco Rubio water grabs
35) Thirty-five motions for cloture
36) Thirty-six congressional pages sodomized
37) Thirty-seven bills limiting abortion
38) Thirty-eight rape insurance bills
39) Thirty-nine percent of Americans with pre-existing conditions
40) Forty Issa Hearings
41) Forty-one attemps at Repealing ACA
 
2013-12-16 02:43:32 PM

TV's Vinnie: Do these nihilistic retards actually go around with picket signs that read "I WANT TO DIE IN PAIN!", "COLON CANCER? YES, PLEASE!", and "PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS IS GOD'S WILL"?


Of course not. All of those have been spell-checked.
 
2013-12-16 02:44:17 PM
I just knew this would happen. Back in 2010, I saw an article which said that if the Tea Party wanted to be taken seriously, they should disassociate themselves from the GOP. I said it was the opposite, that if the GOP wanted to be taken seriously, they should disassociate themselves from the Tea Party.
 
2013-12-16 02:46:09 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: "A foolish consistency constituencyis the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines."

 
2013-12-16 02:50:21 PM
somedude210:

You know, as much as we mock them and make fun of them, I imagine there is at least some situations where a tax cut would be a sensible solution.

Oh there are tons of these situations. Th Laffer curve is not complete bullshiat. The problem with it is that no one knows the actual shape of it or where we ever are on it. Also there are some issues that promoting them through tax benefits is a public good. It is a policy tool to be used where it makes sense, just like raising taxes. However you don't use a hammer for every single job, and you need to have a complete tool set to do most jobs. ignoring this basic idea about public policy is why the GoP will never get another vote from me.
 
2013-12-16 02:50:31 PM
Wow....30 posts before even a half-hearted attempt at defending the GOP......
 
2013-12-16 02:51:36 PM
Old: DERP-a-thon 2013

New: DERP-a-thon 2014
 
2013-12-16 02:56:51 PM
These people are meaningless. There aren't enough of them to make a big difference in shiat. The sane conservatives need to just tell them to STFU and go back to work and let the adults deal with stuff.
 
2013-12-16 02:58:07 PM

WTFDYW: These people are meaningless. There aren't enough of them to make a big difference in shiat. The sane conservatives needs to just tell them to STFU and go back to work and let the adults deal with stuff.


FTFY, and even that might be generous.
 
2013-12-16 02:58:26 PM
i.imgur.com

Moderate Republicans: "Dear Derpers, Its so gratifying to leave you wallowing in the mess you made. You're screwed. Bye."
 
2013-12-16 02:58:40 PM

colon_pow: 0care has already entered the death spiral.

2014 will be a bloodbath.

you heard it here first.

I have spoken.


Yeah... I'm gonna need you to go ahead and NOT speak. That'd be great.
 
2013-12-16 03:02:14 PM

skozlaw: That'll happen to your big tent when you around inside it knocking down the perfectly functional poles for not being rigid enough..


i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-16 03:03:56 PM

inclemency: Yeah... I'm gonna need you to go ahead and NOT speak. That'd be great.


Why? Dude brings comedy gold?!
 
2013-12-16 03:06:42 PM

Weaver95: The GOP rank and file have this very odd delusion that somehow they're exempt from reality. They seem to believe that because they are good people that nothing bad can happen to them. Then when something bad does happen to befall them, they blame everyone else for their troubles and demand that the world stop until they get back on track.


Sometimes I again become aware, perhaps disturbingly so, about why you bring the insight you do to this tab. I hope its an exaggeration, but I'm afraid its not.
 
2013-12-16 03:10:47 PM
Anybody that suggests that we should even think about having discussions regarding the long-term viability of the ACA and how it can be improved should have their children murdered in front of them.

Farking RINOs
 
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